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What do all 4 quarterbacks left have in common?
I had Vikes vs Pats in the SB before the playoffs started. Sticking to that.
What do all 4 quarterbacks left have in common?
They all have a top 10 defense playing behind them
they're not tony romo?
Now I'm curious as to how often this has happened in the past.They all have a top 10 defense playing behind them
Vikes
QB...Fran Tarkenton
RB...Adrian Peterson
RB...Chuck Foreman
WR...Cris Carter
WR...Randy Moss
vs
Eagles
QB...Donovan McNabb
RB...Wilbert Montgomery
RB...Brian Westbrook
WR...Harold Carmichael
WR...Tommy McDonald
Hmmmm?
My Niners
QB...Joe Montana
RB....Frank Gore
RB....Joe "The Jet" Perry
WR...Jerry Rice
WR...Terrell Owens
Who beats that?
As Hall of Famers Steve Young, Hugh "King" McElhenny sit on the bench. , Roger Craig.
Last edited by Avante; 01-17-2018 at 01:01 AM.
Speed in pro football, love the topic.
Don Hutson is considered by all those who know the game to be right there with Jerry Rice when it comes to the greatest WR's. The thing about Hutson was his 9.8 speed vs white cornerbacks. He never had to face 4.3 cats because he never played vs black cornerbacks. I know of no track speedy cornerbacks in the days of Don Hutson.
Same story with Jim Thorpe and Red "The Galloping Ghost" Grange, they never faced speedy black athletes.
The first real speed was tiny Buddy Young all 5-4 170 pounds of him, he was an NCAA/AAU 100 champ out of Illinois. He showed up in the 40;s. He was the first quick, elusive, speedy black running back in the pro game.
The Big Ben Stevenson story a must read. Yep, Google it.
Christian Coleman (the NCAA champ then) who beat Usain Bolt last season in the World Champs has just broke the WR in the 60m sprint, he ran a 6.37, breaking the 6.39 by the great Mo Greene.
The guy broke the NCAA 100m record last season.
He has been timed in...4.12...in the 40, that is supernatural, outerwordly,
He did play HS football.
Let's take his best numbers from his first six seasons of NFL Football and make a fantasy season.
Tom Brady
comp%...63.9
yards...4,110
TD...28
QB rating..92.6
Russell Wilson
68.1
4,219
NFL leading....34
NFL leading....110.1
Oh yes, no franchise QB there, hahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~
It would be cool if you guys took a few minutes and actually checked things out just a little bit, ok?
The numbers Wilson has put up in his first six seasons.....special.
I can't think of the Eagles and not think....
Steve Van Buren a stud RB who played at LSU in the early 40's. imagine a black athlete at LSU in the 40's.
Timmy Brown a shifty, multi talented, all purpose RB out of Ball St.
Harold Carmichael a 6-7 WR out of Southern U.
Chuck Bednarik...grrrrrrr~~~
Wilbert Montgomery their greatest RB.
Cyril Pinder a 9.4 sprinter out of Illinois.
Harold Jackson....a blurrrrrrr...out of Jackson St.
Reggie White/Jerome Brown
Donovan McNabb
Multi talented Brian Westbrook out of Villanova.
PLEASE PLEASE..don't get all silly early in the game with the Eagles up 17-3, ok little people? The Pats shuck n; jive, then get their together at halftime then come out and.....WIN~~~~~~~~~~~
Who will be that know nothing acting like a re ed monkey if the Eagles get up 14? I think I know.
Watching a replay of the Pats vs Jags game.
That fumble by Lewis really could have gone either way. If the refs were wanting the Pats to win then why give the ball to the Jags?
James Patterson has a book out about the life of Aaron Hernandez. Hmmmmm?
Cowboys
Staubach/Aikman
Smith/Dorsett (and likely Elliott)
Hayes/Irvin
Steelers
Bradshaw/Ben
Bell/Bettis
Brown/Ward
And that's off the top of my head. My guess is there are a handful of teams to compare.
Colts
Peyton/Unitas
Edgerrin James/Lenny Moore
Ray Berry/Marvin Harrison
We are talking HOF caliber here.
Obviously all the teams have their best but only those we have mentioned can have HOFers at every position.
Close
Raiders
Stabler
Allen/Jackson
Brown/Biletnikoff
Redskins
Jurgenson
Riggins/Portis
Monk/Mitc
Hmmmm?
Last edited by Avante; 01-24-2018 at 02:22 PM.
You can do it with the Raiders albeit it's weaker than anything we've discussed and requires an exception
Stabler/Blanda
Jackson/Allen ( I realize Jackson isn't HOF but...)
Brown/Biletnikoff
As you can see, ya read my mind.
Why Cliff Branch isn't in the HOF? His career far superior to Lynn Swann a HOFer.
Bo Jackson belongs in any All Time, just like Gale Sayers. Here it really is.....the with numbers/stats.
close
Packers
Starr/Favre/Rodgers
Taylor/Hornung
Lofton/Driver
This one works
Rams
Van Brocklin
Faulk/ erson
Fears/Hirsh
As does this one...
Graham
Brown/Motley/Kelly
Levelli/Warfield
Close
Chargers
Fouts
Tomlinson/Lowe
Alworth/Joiner
Last edited by Avante; 01-24-2018 at 02:42 PM.
What teams has had four HOF RB's other than my Niners? (Gore will be, Perry, McElhenny, Johnson are HOFers, won't count O.J.that was a joke))
One of the great offenses of all time that gets little if any props.
50's Rams
Norm Van Brocklin and Bob Waterfield
One of the first big powerful black RB duos...Tank Younger and Deacon Dan Towler
Two Hall of Famers to be receivers...Tom Fears and Elroy "Crazy Legs" Hirsch.
I'd guess one of the very old teams. I can think of three from the Bears...Payton, Sayers, and Grange. But there's probably some other old time player.
You nailed it, yep, Bronko Nagurski who teamed up with Grange. I do use RB but back in the days FB's were primary rushers like Jim Brown, Jim Taylor, Nagurski etc.
Grange/Nagurski
Perry/McElhenny/Johnson
Taylor/Hornung
Future HOFers there together.
The thing about history is the size you have with an interest. My NFL starts in 1920 yep...the first season, so it's HUGE, MASSIVE and COMPLETE. I need this, I want it all so I have it all. To not know the origins of things that interest me, I can't do it the curiousity would be too much.
Interesting tid bits like...
When Bears RB Beattie Feathers had the first 1000 yard season in NFL history, he averaged over 8 yards a carry or was it 9, think about that.
The thing with the internet is how badly people want/need to....let me check that out see if he's WRONG. It is funny.
Other football historians have proposed something more sinister: The NFL may have purposely pumped up Feathers' production to turn him into an easier-to-promote superstar.
Feathers was clearly gaining a lot of yardage, but he missed the final two games of the 1934 season, plus the championship game, with an injury. League officials, so the story goes, figured he was close enough to 1,000 to add a yard here and a yard there to totals no one was keeping track of anyway.
The Feathers record used to be a huge deal among football historians. Back when most football research was done by microfiche and stapled-together newsletter, giants of the field like Bob Carroll, David Neft and Mark Purcell would duke it out in sometimes nasty debates. Few of those battles were ever digitized, and those who peruse old statistics at all generally accept the 119-carry, 1,004-yard, 8.4-yard-per-carry figures that Neft codified during the glory days of ink-and-paper sports encyclopedias.
The pre-Neft numbers were 101-1,004-9.94; it was those numbers Dr. Z felt had to contain some return yardage
All that stuff is found in books, books read long before there was the internet.Google.
Last edited by Avante; 01-24-2018 at 03:59 PM.
Imagine an NFL team called....Kardex....haha~~~
The Tonawanda Kardex.....gotta love it.
, Kansas City Cowboys.
The 1925 Kansas City Cowboys season was their second in the league and first as the Cowboys. The team improved on their previous output of 2–7, losing only five games.[1] They finished thirteenth in the league
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