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would you prefer they give their sources nicknames like say Deepthroat...
ok, so which of these are fake? we've got abc and cnn here
would you prefer they give their sources nicknames like say Deepthroat...
were those directly ordered by the president and AG pursuant to the statute we found for your bet?believing that after this just came out
Report: Obama era NSA admits to years of illegal searches on Americans
A bombs report claims that the NSA, under then President Obama, conducted years of illegal searches of American's private data. The report appears in the online publication Circa and details how once-classified do ents show how the spy agency failed to disclose the abuses.
According to a previously classified report reviewed by Circa, one in 20 electronic communications by Americans were scooped up and kept by the NSA. The NSA admitted that the actions of the so-called 702 database potentially violated the fourth amendment protections of millions of Americans. This even after the spy agency's own supervisors agreed in 2011 to follow certain safeguards. The publication goes on to say the Obama administration self-disclosed the violations late last year just before President Donald Trump was elected. The admittance of wrongdoing was made before the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. The agency received a strong rebuke from the court according to Circa.
In early January, shortly before President Trump's inauguration, Obama administration officials changed the rules regarding the handling of sensitive information of Americans scooped up in NSA data collection. The rule change did away with the previous safeguards and allowed wide dispersion of information on individuals to be spread across several agencies.
The American Civil Liberties Union expressed shock to Circa that the abuses were admitted by government officials. Over the last several months, various operatives with the government have tried to tamp down claims of intentional wiretapping by the former administration.
You can read the full report from Circa as well as the FISA court report in the link to the side of this story.
http://www.valleynewslive.com/conten...423976234.html
ok, so which of these are fake? we've got abc and cnn here
My post had nothing to do with the bet but your naivety in thinking surveillance laws would be followed.
oh. yeah, then your bet about laws is meaningless since people can always break laws
Can surveillance obtained illegally be used in court?
under certain cir stances
I dont even remember getting embarrassed and losing my account.
cuck
no were not.
poor delusional loser. what a ridiculous and pointless existence
Hey John,
There's a better place for your posts
https://www.washingtonpost.com/anony...=.b59e81bfd067
which are?
i'm admittedly much less familiar with national security/intelligence type stuff, usually the feds can get away with a lot of in the name of national security, as it's considered a compelling govt interest... but in a typical criminal proceeding?
the typical exceptions to the exclusionary rule are...
independent evidence (as in you have illegally acquired evidence, like email contents, but then later on acquire it legally. that can come in)
inevitable discovery (illegally acquire evidence that was later almost certain to be acquired legally anyway)
attenuation (the connection between the evidence and the illegal means of acquiring it is very remote)
good faith (if there is a warrant and it turns out to be invalid, but the cop relied on the defective warrant in good faith that it was in fact, valid)
and illegally acquired testimony/admissions can almost always be used to impeach a witness
you caught me on a good day, spent this past week reviewing crim law and crim pro
Last edited by spurraider21; 05-27-2017 at 05:46 PM.
Impeachment happens when a legislative body formally levels charges against an official. Then a legislative vote follows. The entire process is political, the judiciary is not involved.
What that means is this Congress would have to vote to have Trump removed.
What I meant by pardons, is that he could pardon people like Cuckner if they get convicted (as long as he's still the president), with the obvious political cost.
There's a cost to be paid for the party though, especially since Trump appear to still be popular with it's base. You pull that stunt without convincing evidence, and next time around you'll have Ted Nugent as POTUS.
I'm leaning towards there being convincing evidence ever since our Dear Leader fired Comey.
Thanks for the info but was hoping for clarification on illegal surveillance/intelligence used in court for what we are witnessing nowi'm admittedly much less familiar with national security/intelligence type stuff, usually the feds can get away with a lot of in the name of national security, as it's considered a compelling govt interest... but in a typical criminal proceeding?
the typical exceptions to the exclusionary rule are...
independent evidence (as in you have illegally acquired evidence, like email contents, but then later on acquire it legally. that can come in)
inevitable discovery (illegally acquire evidence that was later almost certain to be acquired legally anyway)
attenuation (the connection between the evidence and the illegal means of acquiring it is very remote)
good faith (if there is a warrant and it turns out to be invalid, but the cop relied on the defective warrant in good faith that it was in fact, valid)
and illegally acquired testimony/admissions can almost always be used to impeach a witness
you caught me on a good day, spent this past week reviewing crim law and crim pro
Speaking of Comey what ever happened to his "memos"?
Don't know
Fever pitched
yeah but where else would that information be used as evidence in court... it would be a criminal charge ultimately, so those rules would still apply
Yeah, bum, Comey thought he had Trump set to permit him to sit there for 10 years and sop up the gravy. No. Get the up & get the out.
Trump mopped the in' floor with his in' ass.
P.S., Max is reporting that Trump is going to kick that global warming deal right the out on to Pennsylvania Avenue.
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