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    But then, predicting what Trump will, or won't do is sort of a mugs game. He never fails to do the stupidest possible, just when you think he can't be dumber.

    The thing about a good theory though, it that it both explains facts, and you can make testable predictions.

    Fact 1:
    Russia attempted to hack our electoral process through a multi-pronged attack.

    Fact 2:
    Donald "look how big my inauguration crowd was" Trump has done nothing but deny this even happened. He has shown no willingness whatsoever to hold Russia to account for anything.

    Fact 3:
    Donald Trump has a pattern of criticizing anyone, and everyone at the drop of a hat. Allies, enemies, courts, free press, nothing has escaped his remarks and twitter feed, except for ONE/(two) thing(s), and that is Russia/Putin

    Fact 4:
    Russian efforts appeared designed to support Trump

    Fact 5:
    Trump directly called on Russia publicly to support his efforts to get elected.

    Theory:
    Donald Trump has been compromised in some way. Either he directly owes them money, or they have evidence of some kind of him breaking the law or doing something he does not want others to know about.

    This theory explains those facts, and is fully consistent with observed reality.

    Prediction:
    Donald Trump will take no action personally, nor will he criticize Russia or Putin in any way in regards to the Russian attack on our elections. He may allow his underlings to do some minor, inconsequential stuff, and if forced to do anything by Congress will drag his feet, if not outright attempt to veto any sanctions.


    The way to falsify the theory:
    1) Trump criticizes Putin/Russia (good)
    2) Trump orders/takes action that materially harms Russian interests (definitive)

    Bull conspiracy theories fail very often because either: they cannot be falsified, or they directly conflict with observed reality. This theory can be falsified, and does not conflict with what we know as fact.

    Donald Trump is unpredictable except for Russia
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    He may be stupid enough to fire Mueller if Mueller starts asking questions that will expose how he has been compromised.

    If he does so, he will be impeached. The Republican party will have almost no choice at that point. Congress will find their spine, because they want to be re-elected, and Trump will have gone too far for all but the most jaded hacks.
    Trump administration moves to return Russian compounds in Maryland and New York
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/shuttere...-be-re-opened/

    This action is consistent with the hypothesis.

    It should be noted that Russia didn't give anything for this. Mr. "Good Deal" got bupkiss in return for this.
    Last edited by RandomGuy; 06-26-2017 at 02:42 PM.

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    Not just Trump -- Trump boy fans here have not bad to say about Putin and Mother Russia either.

    Make our work for Mother Russia so easier.

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    Fox "state media", hilarious

    Fox News Just Excused Trump’s Potential Treason

    Hume begins by parroting the administration’s talking points that are trying to undermine the public’s trust in Mueller’s integrity and credibility:

    [Special counsel Robert Mueller has] “hired several lawyers who have made contributions to the Democratic Party, and would appear, at least on the surface, to be Democrats and perhaps Democratic partisans….

    …It’s worth noting, I think, that this investigation has never been officially described as anything other than a counterintelligence investigation,

    which is to say that its purpose was to find out the extent of the Russians’ attempts to interfere in the election and influence the election.

    It was not therefore a criminal investigation, and has never been described as a criminal investigation.

    Do we all now believe it has now become a criminal investigation?”

    Mueller’s investigation has indeed morphed into a criminal inquiry.

    Hume goes off the deep end:


    “But what crime?

    Can anybody identify the crime?

    Collusion, while it would be obviously alarming and highly inappropriate for the Trump campaign, of which there is no evidence by the way, of colluding with the Russians.

    It’s not a crime.

    So are we talking about here the president’s firing of Comey being an obstruction of justice?

    And they got a grand jury on that?

    Is that was this is about?”

    Hume and Fox are now saying essentially:

    “Well even if the Russians did hack the elections, and

    Trump’s campaign colluded with them, what’s the big deal?

    It’s not like treason is a crime or anything.”


    http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/06/25/fox-news-just-excused-trumps-potential-treason/



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    CNN busted by Breitbart

    "Stelter, in his Sunday evening newsletter named for the television program he hosts Reliable Sources, credited a Breitbart News investigation with forcing what he admitted is an embarrassing retraction for his employer CNN."

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ia-retraction/

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    CNN busted by Breitbart

    "Stelter, in his Sunday evening newsletter named for the television program he hosts Reliable Sources, credited a Breitbart News investigation with forcing what he admitted is an embarrassing retraction for his employer CNN."

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ia-retraction/
    to my first ever linked Breitbart article

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    TSA excited.

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    Kushner Adds Defense Lawyer To His Team For Federal Russia Probe

    added a prominent criminal defense lawyer to the legal team representing him amid the federal probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 election

    Kushner has retained Abbe Lowell, a powerhouse trial lawyer who has represented high-profile political figures including John Edwards and lobbyist Jack Abramoff

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...0%28TPMNews%29

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    Carter Page Confirms ‘Extensive Discussions’ With FBI Over Russia Probe

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/carter-page-confirms-extensive-discussions-with-fbi-over-russia-probe/

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    CNN busted by Breitbart

    "Stelter, in his Sunday evening newsletter named for the television program he hosts Reliable Sources, credited a Breitbart News investigation with forcing what he admitted is an embarrassing retraction for his employer CNN."

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ia-retraction/
    Busted by?

    What did Breitbart do to bust CNN?

    By semen shielding for Trump and crying about CNN being mean to Trump?

    If anything, CNN is taking extra steps to cover their bases unlike Fox who ran a hack of a story about Seth Rich, took it down and never spoke of it again or took any serious steps to correct future similar hit pieces.

    Instead they have their own employees go on camera crying about being silenced about a Seth Rich conspiracy story after being told by a Fox team to cool it.

    “I want to say this to you, my loyal audience, which is very important: Please do not interpret what I’m saying tonight to mean anything,” Hannity said. “Don’t read into this. I promise you I am not doing — going to stop doing my job to the extent of my ability.”He added: “I serve at the pleasure of the Fox News Channel. And I am here to do my job every night. I’m under contract, as long as they seem to want me.”
    Earlier on Tuesday, Hannity seemed defiant, even as Fox backed down from the story. He said on his radio show that he felt badly for Rich’s family, but added that it was his “moral obligation” to ask whether a DNC whistleblower was in touch with WikiLeaks.

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    Busted by?

    What did Breitbart do to bust CNN?

    By semen shielding for Trump and crying about CNN being mean to Trump?

    If anything, CNN is taking extra steps to cover their bases unlike Fox who ran a hack of a story about Seth Rich, took it down and never spoke of it again or took any serious steps to correct future similar hit pieces.

    Instead they have their own employees go on camera crying about being silenced about a Seth Rich conspiracy story after being told by a Fox team to cool it.



    What part of the only sentence I quoted from the article are you having trouble comprehending?

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    It looks like the right-wing hate media is expecting Mueller to find collusion, so they are now saying collusion with the enemy is OK

    Brit Hume
    Collusion, while it would be obviously alarming and highly inappropriate for the Trump campaign, of which there is no evidence by the way, of colluding with the Russians. It's not a crime.


    Sean Hannity
    What was the collusion? That maybe somebody in the Trump campaign talked to somebody in Russia … Is that a crime?

    Gregg Jarrett
    I've said it before and I'll say it again: collusion is not a crime. ... You can collude all you want with a foreign government in an election.

    It’s not just that Fox and Donald’s Friends are so anxious to explain that collusion is not a crime, and it’s just not that Trump’s weekend and morning tweets worked to turn collusion into one of those words that Republicans can throw around recklessly—like traitor.

    Trump’s tweets also set a new standard for what cons utes acceptable evidence of an issue.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...tail=emaildkre


    Trash: no collusion tape? then no crime

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    Report: CNN Producer Says Trump 'Probably Right' About Russia 'Witch Hunt'

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    If anything, CNN is taking extra steps to cover their bases unlike Fox who ran a hack of a story about Seth Rich, took it down and never spoke of it again or took any serious steps to correct future similar hit pieces.

    Instead they have their own employees go on camera crying about being silenced about a Seth Rich conspiracy story after being told by a Fox team to cool it.

    ... and that is the difference.

    I can't remember Fox ever really forcing anyone out for any of the bogus bull stories they have peddled over the years.

    This kind of thing is what makes me call bull when people say both sides are equally bad. They aren't.

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    Podesta testified in closed hearing yesterday. I guess it was too embarrassing to admit publicly that he was duped by a phish email, a.k.a. the high-tech Russian cyber attack.

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    duped by a phish email
    .... not a crime, unlike the widespread criminality to be exposed, probably already known to investigators, by your asshole Trash and team.

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    Podesta testified in closed hearing yesterday. I guess it was too embarrassing to admit publicly that he was duped by a phish email, a.k.a. the high-tech Russian cyber attack.
    Suddenly if you testify in a closed hearing it must mean you're embarrassed or hiding something.

    Roger Stone clearly didn't get your memo. Better hurry.

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    Lol, acting FBI director under investigation

    http://circa.com/politics/accountabi...le-hatch-act-v

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    Darrin do great work for Mother Russia. We don't have to pay him.

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    Why are you rehashing days old stories and year old stories?

    Trump put McCabe in after Comey knowing his wife was running for a senate seat.

    This seems like a disgrusted FBI agent being mad about being passed over for promotion after McCabe got the job instead.

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    What he do illegal?

    Please to explain.

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    Darrin do great work for Mother Russia. We don't have to pay him.
    Fake Russian love fake Russia news.

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