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    Trash's red line crossed! "violation"

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    Thread It hurts me to see you go to your old ways, man.

    Difficults times ahead, I know.

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    Mueller can obtain Trash's tax returns, and Trash won't even know it.

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    "GO MUELLER GO!"


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    Can tell when Thread and Chris really hurt. Just repeat same post over and over.

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    I wouldn't go. I'd hunt a live microphone:::"Let us proceed..."

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    Can tell when Thread and Chris really hurt. Just repeat same post over and over.
    My ass.

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    Deutsche Bank agrees to hand over Trump records to investigators — and they may contain Russia probe info

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/deut...e+Raw+Story%29

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    RUH ROH RAGGY!

    The FBI has turned over 7,000 do ents from Another Weiner's private laptop and it's about to come back and take a huge bite out of Hillary Clinton.

    From Fox News:

    The FBI has turned over 7,000 new do ents from Anthony Weiner’s private laptop to the State Department as part of a watchdog group's lawsuit related to last year's Hillary Clinton email case.

    Judicial Watch and State Department representatives appeared in federal court in Washington, D.C., on Thursday over the group's Freedom of Information Act suit seeking Clinton emails from her tenure at the State Department.

    It emerged during the hearing that the 7,000 new do ents were turned over. The trove is expected to contain some emails sent by Weiner’s estranged wife, Clinton aide Huma Abedin.

    Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton told Fox News after the hearing that they expect to begin receiving those do ents in three months, once the State Department determines whether the Weiner do ents are government or personal records.

    The State Department was ordered in November to turn over 500 pages of Clinton-related do ents a month to Judicial Watch.

    But Fitton is not satisfied with the speed of the process, especially now that another 7,000 do ents are being added to the pile.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...-case.amp.html

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    I am very interested in what he will do. You may give it short shrift, but it is a testable theory, that can make a prediction.

    The prediction is that he will do nothing, or as close to nothing as he can. He consistently deals harshly, especially rhetorically, with just about every country but Russia.

    Predicting what Trump will, or won't do is sort of a mugs game, for the most part.

    The thing about a good theory though, it that it both explains facts, and you can make testable predictions.

    Fact 1:
    Russia attempted to hack our electoral process through a multi-pronged attack.

    Fact 2:
    Donald "look how big my inauguration crowd was" Trump has done nothing but deny this even happened. He has shown no willingness whatsoever to hold Russia to account for anything.

    Fact 3:
    Donald Trump has a pattern of criticizing anyone, and everyone at the drop of a hat. Allies, enemies, courts, free press, nothing has escaped his remarks and twitter feed, except for ONE/(two) thing(s), and that is Russia/Putin

    Fact 4:
    Russian efforts appeared designed to support Trump

    Fact 5:
    Trump directly called on Russia publicly to support his efforts to get elected.

    Theory:
    Donald Trump has been compromised in some way. Either he directly owes them money, or they have evidence of some kind of him breaking the law or doing something he does not want others to know about.

    This theory explains those facts, and is fully consistent with observed reality.

    Prediction:
    Donald Trump will take no action personally, nor will he criticize Russia or Putin in any way in regards to the Russian attack on our elections. He may allow his underlings to do some minor, inconsequential stuff, and if forced to do anything by Congress will drag his feet, if not outright attempt to veto any sanctions.


    The way to falsify the theory:
    1) Trump criticizes Putin/Russia (good)
    2) Trump orders/takes action that materially harms Russian interests (definitive)

    Bull conspiracy theories fail very often because either: they cannot be falsified, or they directly conflict with observed reality. This theory can be falsified, and does not conflict with what we know as fact.

    Donald Trump is unpredictable except for Russia
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    I think his past shady business dealings are becoming leverage against him because people with resources and motivation to dig, such as large nation states like China and Russia, are going to come up with things that he would prefer not to be known. This would also explains both his refusal to release his taxes, and his retention of control of his business enterprises. If he cedes too much operational control of those businesses, the possibility of some of those financial records getting out goes up.


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    This theory predicts that Trump will give Putin things he wants.

    Putin wants the US to stop arming Assad's opponents.

    Trump Quietly Gives Putin What He Wants
    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/f...s-putin-wants/
    Until now, the notion that Donald Trump was providing Russia and Vladimir Putin with concessions at the expense of U.S. interests was poorly supported. That all changed on Wednesday afternoon when the Washington Post revealed that Donald Trump ordered his national security advisor and CIA director to scrap a program that provided covert aid to anti-Assad rebels in Syria.

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    but but Donny asked Putin if he interfered and Putin said no, twice?

    Because spies only lie the first time you ask them...



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    donna already sucking the putin, rg.

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    What do you think will come of this, Chris?

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    What do you think will come of this, Chris?
    Hillary in an orange jumper would be s.

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    Hillary in an orange jumper would be s.
    What do you think she will go to jail for?

    Also *ding*

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    What do you think she will go to jail for?

    Also *ding*
    Benghazi+Seth Rich+

    1 - James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.

    2 - Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

    3 - Vince Foster - Former white House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

    4 - Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.

    5 - C. Victor Raiser II and Montgomery Raiser, Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

    6 - Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992... Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor."

    7- Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

    8 - Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

    9 - James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited pros utes in Texas and Arkansas.

    10 - James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

    11- Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

    12 - Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

    13 - Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

    14 - Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

    15 - Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

    16 - Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

    17 - Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

    18 - Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno three weeks before his death

    19 - Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal.

    20 - Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

    21- Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

    22 - Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee, died with his attorney Steve son in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.

    23 - Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena, Arkansas, death was no accident.

    24 - Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

    25 - Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

    26- Hers Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

    27 - Kevin Ives and Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the two boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

    THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

    28 - Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, July 1988.

    29 - Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

    30 - Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

    31 - Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

    33 - James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes."

    34 - Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

    35 - Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

    THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD: 36 - Major William S. Barkley Jr. 37 - Captain Scott J. Reynolds 38 - Sgt. Brian Hanley 39 - Sgt. Tim Sabel 40 - Major General William Robertson 41 - Col. William Densberger 42 - Col. Robert Kelly 43 - Spec. Gary Rhodes 44 - Steve Willis 45 - Robert Williams 46 - Conway LeBleu 47 - Todd McKeehan
    If I had my druthers.

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    "There's current litigation going on over an alleged tax fraud involving the Trump SoHo hotel.

    Donald owned 18 percent of the profits to that project.

    The profits all disappeared into an Icelandic bank that turned out to be under the thumb of one of the Russian oligarchs.

    This is really troublesome for Donald, and

    it is the reason he has taken the extraordinary position of trying to tell his prosecutor what he can and can't do. "

    http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/41342-david-cay-johnston-gop-budget-redistributes-money-to-the-rich-and-helps-make-us-a-police-state




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    Benghazi+Seth Rich+
    Too bad one needs evidence to convict.

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    Too bad one needs evidence to convict.
    Possible evidence in that fresh batch of 7000 emails. State Department has to get their grubby little fingers on it first.

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    THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:


    33 - James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes."
    What information did James Milam have information on the Ives/Henry case?

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    Possible evidence in that fresh batch of 7000 emails. State Department has to get their grubby little fingers on it first.
    The FBI already had it.

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