It really isn't dead yet: Senate Republicans will push one more Trumpcare bill next week
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has officially requested a score of it from the Congressional Budget Office.
He is reportedly whipping it and attempting to get support by telling people that Sen. John McCain supports it, because the maverick McCain was only bull ting everyone back in July when he said he was going to insist that any more repeal efforts go through regular order.
This won't go through regular order because there isn't time for that—because they only have until the end of the month (eight working days as of now) to do it.
The only way the Senate could pass this without subjecting it to a Democratic filibuster is by pushing it through a process called budget reconciliation.
Republicans gave themselves a deadline of Sept. 30 to get this done, arrogantly thinking that they could do in six months what they weren't able to do in seven years: come up with a replacement for Obamacare.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...tail=emaildkre
Very Bad News For Republicans As John McCain Smacks Down New Effort To Repeal Obamacare
Sen. John McCain sent a signal that he is not going to support the latest Republican effort to repeal Obamacare by announcing his support for the bipartisan ACA fixes being worked on in the Senate
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/09/...iticus+USA+%29
What's worse than Obamacare repeal with no replacement? This new Trumpcare bill
it gets there is really, really nasty.
In the first years, it's a massive transfer of money from the blue state that took Medicaid expansion under the Affordable Care Act to states that didn't. In 2021 it "redistribute(s) the reduced federal funding across states,
based on their share of low-income residents rather than their actual spending needs" and would,
over time,
"punish states that have adopted the Medicaid expansion or been more successful at enrolling low- and moderate-income people in marketplace coverage under the ACA."
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...han-we-thought
You really think McCain is going to vote against his boy Graham's bill? I fear this one is going to pass.
The two women who voted no before dont like this one either. Plus Rand Paul is already a solid no.
Just going by reports.
That lmao is probably right though. He'll buckle just like good old porny Ted.
You Texans stand to be the biggest winners according to that chart.
The block grants to Repug states won't be used to pay for poor people's care, but will be Repug political slush funds. is why there are "no Federal strings attached" to the grants.
Arizona Governor Endorses Obamacare Repeal, In Apparent Message To John McCain
https://www.yahoo.com/news/arizona-g...192405368.html
McCain, who cast a decisive third Republican vote against repeal in July, has not yet declared how he would vote on Cassidy-Graham. And although McCain has repeatedly raised objections to the rushed process of writing repeal legislation ― objections that would seem to apply equally to Cassidy-Graham ― he has also said he will take seriously the guidance of his governor. For that reason, Ducey’s endorsement got a lot of attention on Monday. The senator’s office did not return a request for comment.
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Trashcare 5.0
Cancer patients will face a nightmare scenario if Trumpcare becomes law
allow many insurers to drive up premiums the minute someone gets sick.
This provision allows states to obtain waivers from the Affordable Care Act’s requirement that no one can be charged a higher premium because of a “health status-related factor,” effectively
allowing insurers to discriminate against people with pre-existing health conditions.
But that’s not all.
The new Trumpcare bill wouldn’t simply allow insurers to discriminate against people whose health condition manifested before they signed up for insurance.
Graham-Cassidy also potentially
permits insurers to charge higher premiums “as a condition of enrollment or continued enrollment.”
Thus, a person who is already insured could be forced to pay much higher premiums as a condition of their “continued enrollment” in that health plan after they are diagnosed with a new health condition.
https://thinkprogress.org/trumpcare-...-150828a5ead6/
This is what you Trash fellators voted for, right?
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the bill is not perfect next year they should do more with it!
boutons_deux do you have omapuckcare?
is it working for you?
Repugs penalizing blue states that expanded Medicaid
Under GOP Health Care Bill, States Would Struggle to Hang onto Obamacare
States that expanded Medicaid would be particularly hard hit
states willing to commit far more of their own budgets to the cause will struggle to establish anything close to Obamacare.
it will be virtually impossible for states to hold on to their ACA coverage gains, even if they are states that really want to do so,”
The funding is most drastically reduced for states that expanded Medicaid — many of which are the Democratic-led states most likely to try to recreate something akin to the ACA.
States like California, Oregon, and Vermont, where officials might also be interested in keeping the ACA intact, would see their funding drop by about $2 billion, $1 billion, and $2 million, respectively. A broader analysis from CBPP finds even sharper reductions, particularly for liberal states, beginning in 2027.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...nto-obamacare/
As with Trashcare 1.0 to 4.0, Trashcare 5.0 takes health insurance and health care away from 10Ms of poor Americans, blatant sadism and manslaughter.
because Repugs LIE that they are pro life, when in fact they are pro-enrichment of themselves and the BigDonor oligarchy.
it can not be worse then what it is now
changes are not perfect but a start
The VERY BEST People
‘Craven dip ’: Internet scolds Trump economic advisor for failing to grasp how insurance works
Donald Trump’s top economic advisor Stephen Moore on Tuesday demonstrated an apparent lack-of-knowledge of just how insurance works, telling CNBC’s John Harwood
“people want insurance for their own families, not other peoples.”
Moore was explaining why it’s unfair to have an insurance system where healthy people subsidize sick people.
John Harwood
✔@JohnJHarwood
Trump adviser Moore on unfairness of the healthy subsidizing the sick: "people want insurance for their own families, not other peoples' "
2:57 PM - Sep 19, 2017
Aaron Rupar
✔@atrupar
One thing I've leaned in 2017 is that a stunning number of "conservatives" have no idea how insurance works https://twitter.com/johnjharwood/status/910231408563638272 …
3:15 PM - Sep 19, 2017· Washington, DC
Jeffrey Goldfarb
✔@jgfarb
He literally does not understand how insurance works. https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/910231408563638272 …
3:15 PM - Sep 19, 2017
Natalia Antonova
✔@NataliaAntonova
I guess we can call this one the Society insurance plan. https://twitter.com/johnjharwood/status/910231408563638272 …
3:14 PM - Sep 19, 2017
kris pissedofferson
✔@JoshhTerry
these craven dip s have no clue what insurance even is https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/910231408563638272 …
3:13 PM - Sep 19, 2017
One thing I've leaned in 2017 is that a stunning number of "conservatives" have no idea how insurance works https://twitter.com/johnjharwood/status/910231408563638272 …
3:15 PM - Sep 19, 2017· Washington, DC
Jason Fry
✔@jasoncfry
He and those like him quite literally do not understand how insurance works. So much is in danger of being undone by the stupid and selfish. https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/910231408563638272 …
3:12 PM - Sep 19, 2017
Roberto Aram Ferdman
✔@robferdman
Healthy people subsidizing sick people is literally how health insurance works https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/910231408563638272 …
3:01 PM - Sep 19, 2017
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/crav...e+Raw+Story%29Aaron Rupar
✔@atrupar
I wonder if I as a middle-aged woman should be charged the same for life insurance as a 20 year old. I wonder if my house is built with concrete block and has shutters I should be charged the same as a neighbor who has a wooden house with no shutters for windstorm insurance. I wonder if a 20 year old male with speeding tickets should be charged the same as a middle-aged woman with no tickets for auto insurance. I wonder if my house is on a mountain I should be charged the same as some one who lives on the coast/below sea-level for flood insurance. I wonder if 20 year olds should be charged the same as sixty year olds for long-term care insurance. I wonder if I don't own a boat/motorcycle/car/atv, I should be charged the same umbrella liability insurance as some who does. I wonder if I put security alarm, sprinkler system and smoke detectors in my home, I should be charged the same for homeowner's insurance as someone who doesn't. Or if someone has a trampoline, pit bulls, and a pool without a fence, should I be charged the same if I don't?
Let's not pretend that insurance is not based on risk. And yes, even health insurance, if you are a public school teacher, your health insurance is going to be higher than than someone who works at Google because one group has a lot of child bearing/old women and the other has a lot of young men who don't go to the doctor.
In A Stunning Moment, Republican Senator Basically Tells Sick Americans To Go Die
On MSNBC, Sen. John Barrasso (R-WY) said that Americans should have essential health benefits in their health care, which means that if people get sick, the Republican message is go die.
The Republican motto is that people don’t deserve a level of basic coverage that could keep them alive in the event of an illness or an emergency.
Republicans are saying that if a person gets sick,
they better come up with the money to afford to live, or
they can go die.
Barrasso unintentional summed up the Republican view on healthcare, and
what the GOP is trying to sneak through Congress
would be a death sentence for tens of thousands of Americans each year.
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/09/...iticus+USA+%29
CBO won't estimate full effects of Obamacare repeal until after vote deadline
- The Congressional Budget Office said it will not estimate how a new Obamacare bill will affect the number of uninsured Americans until after the deadline for passing that legislation.
- Republicans need 50 votes to pass the Graham-Cassidy bill.
- Past efforts to pass Obamacare replacement bills failed in part because of concerns they would increase the number of uninsured Americans
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/18/cbo-...-deadline.html
Lazy sob cob
Never right anyhow
Fifteen Republican governors are supporting a GOP bill to provide block grants to states as "the last, best hope to finally repeal and replace Obamacare," The Hill reported Tuesday.
Jimmy Kimmel Calls GOP Healthcare Bill a 'Scam,' Tells Senator 'Stop Using My Name'
He said the senator "just lied right to my face."
The host explained how
Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-LA) flat-out lied to him by claiming to support a host of healthcare positions the senator's own new bill directly contradicts.
“This guy, Bill Cassidy, just lied right to my face,” Kimmel said.
He demanded that Cassidy stop hiding behind the popular phrase "Kimmel test" to denote humane healthcare legislation,
a phrase popularized after Kimmel tearfully revealed his son's heart condition while defending the Affordable Care Act from Republican repeal efforts.
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-pol...-using-my-name
"the Graham-Cassidy healthcare repeal bill―
the latest version of Trumpcare―
which kicks 32 million people off of their healthcare
while giving a $20 billion tax break to the medical device industry."
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