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    No, they got better.
    Bump, they got better all right, not because of CP3 though. Harden stepped up, I give him credit for that. But CP3 was the only starter who had a negative +/-, generally stunk up the joint.

    It took a monstrous game from Harden, an equally chokey job from KAT for the 1st seed to barely squeak out a 3 point lead over the 8th seed Wlves.

    This is the type of game that I was referring to precisely, where CP3 will just the bed and make the Clippers worse than they are.

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    Bump, they got better all right, not because of CP3 though. Harden stepped up, I give him credit for that. But CP3 was the only starter who had a negative +/-, generally stunk up the joint.

    It took a monstrous game from Harden, an equally chokey job from KAT for the 1st seed to barely squeak out a 3 point lead over the 8th seed Wlves.

    This is the type of game that I was referring to precisely, where CP3 will just the bed and make the Clippers worse than they are.
    Way to blow your load after one game. What will you do if Paul has a good second game?

    Anyway, one of the arguments the "anti-CP3 to Rockets" crew gave was that Paul was going to interfere with Harden's game.

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    What will you do if Paul has a good second game?
    CP0 is a "superstar" playing on a " le contender." He's supposed to have good games against the 8th seed. There shouldn't even be an "if" in that sentence.

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    Way to blow your load after one game. What will you do if Paul has a good second game?

    Anyway, one of the arguments the "anti-CP3 to Rockets" crew gave was that Paul was going to interfere with Harden's game.
    CP3 isn't going to have bad games every time, but he will have bad games that will cost the Rockets against good teams.

    The issue wasn't CP3 interfering with Beard either, it's that they can't both be effective because both are best when they got the ball. Little has chagned.

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    CP3 isn't going to have bad games every time, but he will have bad games that will cost the Rockets against good teams.

    The issue wasn't CP3 interfering with Beard either, it's that they can't both be effective because both are best when they got the ball. Little has chagned.
    Well, they have both been pretty effective this season, tbh.

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    Well, they have both been pretty effective this season, tbh.
    The real season has started and CP0 is looking awful so far.

    Now, the good news for CP0 fluffers is that it's only one game and the Wolves still suck. CP0 should still have three nice stat-padding performances against the 8th seed in the first round for you guys to celebrate.

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    Well, they have both been pretty effective this season, tbh.
    The Rockets went from 2nd in offensive rating last year to ..... 2nd in offensive rating this year! Paul is awesome!

    Most of their improvement came from the defensive end, which is due more to Capella than anybody else.

    Besides, the entire premise is the playoffs. Harden has been excellent for years in the regular season, the hump Rockets have to get through is the playoffs. Paul was supposedly acquired for just that, not for regular season championships.

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    The Rockets went from 2nd in offensive rating last year to ..... 2nd in offensive rating this year! Paul is awesome!

    Most of their improvement came from the defensive end, which is due more to Capella than anybody else.

    Besides, the entire premise is the playoffs. Harden has been excellent for years in the regular season, the hump Rockets have to get through is the playoffs. Paul was supposedly acquired for just that, not for regular season championships.
    Last year: 111.8
    This year: 112.2

    Improvement, tbh. Folks here were saying the move would make them worse.

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    Basketball Reference says they had an offensive rating of 114.7 last year and an offensive rating of... 114.7 this year. So no improvement at all.

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    Last year: 111.8
    This year: 112.2

    Improvement, tbh. Folks here were saying the move would make them worse.
    Twice as many teams were blatantly tanking in the West all season. Every team’s numbers got boosted from that.

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    Basketball Reference says they had an offensive rating of 114.7 last year and an offensive rating of... 114.7 this year. So no improvement at all.
    thanks for dispelling the myth that CP3 wouldn't fit and would bog their offense down because of how ball dominant he is.

    now tell me, how about their defensive rating?

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    Last year: 111.8
    This year: 112.2

    Improvement, tbh. Folks here were saying the move would make them worse.
    Holy ! 0.4 ppg. CP3 is a first ballot HoFer for sure.

    And who said worse?

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    Holy ! 0.4 ppg. CP3 is a first ballot HoFer for sure.

    And who said worse?
    Many folks.

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    Like who? How many folks said CP3 will make them so much better!!!!

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    Like who? How many folks said CP3 will make them so much better!!!!
    Just re-read this thread, tbh.

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    This thread and the D'antoni signing.. not ST's greatest moment

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    Just re-read this thread, tbh.
    Great. That’s why you called me out for something different. Great logic.

    Hey, many people were wrong so I will pick an argument with the guy who isn’t.

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    Great. That’s why you called me out for something different. Great logic.

    Hey, many people were wrong so I will pick an argument with the guy who isn’t.
    you deal in absolutes, so that’s why you’re an easy target tbh

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    Great. That’s why you called me out for something different. Great logic.

    Hey, many people were wrong so I will pick an argument with the guy who isn’t.
    You were also wrong, tbh.

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    you deal in absolutes, so that’s why you’re an easy target tbh
    You don't have a stance, so that's why you are a nobody.

    You were also wrong, tbh.
    That CP3 didn't make the Rockets better? How was I wrong? Did he make the Rockets better?

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    a somebody in the internet


    oh boy

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    a somebody in the internet


    oh boy
    For someone who claims other deals in absolutes.

    You being a nobody anywhere doesn't mean that I am a somebody on the internets.

    If being a somebody on the internets is (I agree), then imagine what a nobody on the internets is.

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    That CP3 didn't make the Rockets better? How was I wrong? Did he make the Rockets better?
    Yes, that's exactly where you were wrong, tbh.

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    Yes, that's exactly where you were wrong, tbh.
    Going from 2nd in ortg to 2nd in ortg. Awesome improvement.

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    Going from 2nd in ortg to 2nd in ortg. Awesome improvement.
    Going from 4th best team to best team. History defining improvement.

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