Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him

[tholdren]

I absolutely still want Lebron, tbh

Re......

[kaji157]

LeBron seems to be doing this to up a spurs trade for Irving, as te spurs probably have one of the best win now packages for Cleveland, and even better past December where they could get Patty and Danny.
If this is just because he wants to up Irving he is a plain idiot.
If he does it because he wants to come here then it's another thing.
I just don't think there is even a slim chance that a guy with such hysterical personality comes here.

[tholdren]

Gilbert gonna Gilbert tbh.

You on the inside?

[BatManu20]

[Captivus]

I gonna say this so I can quote myself next year: Lebron, even though he us leaving next year will prevent any trade he doesnt like...and at the end Cleveland will hate him again after he is gone. Lets get honest here...I get it that a LMA, Green and Murray is not the best they could get...but if I were a Cavs fan I rather have thos players after Lebron leaves than the same they have now without Lebron and Irving.
Get those matches ready Cavs Fans!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

If James is gonna botch out again, the Cavs should but up and pull the trigger on the trade. LeDiva basically holding them hostage. Again.

[BillMc]

If James is gonna botch out again, the Cavs should but up and pull the trigger on the trade. LeDiva basically holding them hostage. Again.

Yep. LeBron will burn a bridge with ownership and management everywhere he's gone. Kind of like prime Shaq.

[Spurtacular]

Irving opting in for a 3rd year would cost him $9 million, it's a non option. 2 years at $18.8 and $20 million for Kyrie is a steal and two seasons should be enough time to sell him on the future off whatever team acquires him.

The Suns are have been wanting to move Bledsoe, swapping him for Kyrie is a an upgrade. Swapping Dudley for Bledsoe (who have similar contracts) is better for the Cavs because Dudley can actually defend and shoot unlike Shumpert and would be something that the Suns may offer to do to sweeten the deal. Bledsoe is an downgrade but is a much better defender and has a connection with Lebron.

The Suns would essentially really only be giving up a lottery pick for Irving, considering that they already have Chriss, Bender, Jackson, and Booker already on roster, all of whom were taken in the lottery in the past three drafts, that shouldn't be that big of an issue plus they would have Miami's 2018 pick (probably ends up being 16-20)

Cavs pick up a very good PG but not quite the player that Irving is, they get Dudley who is better than Shumpert, and add a probable top 10 pick (while also having their own pick in 2018)

Suns get the best player in the deal and can pair him with Booker while still having Jackson, Chriss, Bender, and all there picks (minus the 2018 pick) plus Miami's in 2020. The Suns would be in good position to add a third star given all of their assets going forward.

Cavs wipe their ass with that deal. Bledsoe for Irving is a no-go. Calling it now.

[Chillen]

LMA would be the perfect scapegoat for LBJ and Love if they fail to win it all. Add in Danny Green, Murray and it's a no brainer for Cavs so it must be LeBron keeping it from happening.

[Spurs4#5]

If it did happen which i feel like we won't get irving what would the rotation be like come January when parker comes back? Obviously he'd be the backup point guard but what about mills? Would he be put back into his shooting guard roll? If memory serves me correct when parker and mills were on the floor together they performed pretty well. But if that's the case does ginobili start at the 2 if we're getting rid of green, Aldridge, and murray someone has to taje greens spot. If not where does that leave ginobili as far as rotation goes. Not that he'd get more than 15-20 minutes.

[buttsR4rebounding]

LMA would be the perfect scapegoat for LBJ and Love if they fail to win it all. Add in Danny Green, Murray and it's a no brainer for Cavs so it must be LeBron keeping it from happening.

The Spurs would have to take back around $15 million more in salary. They would have to get a big back. Losing Green and LMA would kill our defense. Maybe we should throw in Pop and get Doug Moe back to coach.

[BatManu20]

Lol

[Joseph Kony]

Lol

Isn't LMA enough to swap straight up for Kyrie? Why would we need to add 24M in salary and who would we be taking back?? Tristan Thompson or shumpert tbh

[BatManu20]

Isn't LMA enough to swap straight up for Kyrie? Why would we need to add 24M in salary and who would we be taking back?? Tristan Thompson or shumpert tbh

The Cavs aren't making this trade anyways, but hypothetically I imagine they'd want at the very least to swap ty Shumpert and his awful contract for a major upgrade in Danny and his very friendly contract.

[BatManu20]

Porn-stache.

[BatManu20]

Not sure about that.

[BatManu20]

[BatManu20]

Stephen A. denounces reports from today that Kyrie and Lebron met in Miami.

[raybies]

lmao

[NameLess Scrub]

Is there a way for the Spurs to land Kyrie Irving without giving up LMA? Irving, Leonard, LMA, Gasol, Rudy, Manu could make some noise.

Have to second this.

Also, if LMA remembers how conditioning before a season feels like.

[cd021]

Isn't LMA enough to swap straight up for Kyrie? Why would we need to add 24M in salary and who would we be taking back?? Tristan Thompson or shumpert tbh

Didn't listen to the audio; however, if the idea is Parker, LMA and Green for Thompson and Kyrie I don't necessarily think that it's a horrible trade but needs some tweaks. Thompson is an above average defender and and excellent rebounder that's also still young (26 and a 1/2) and very durable but the Cavs may not be interested in owing him $52.4 million over the next three seasons, LMA is better offensively and solid defensively (though his reputation doesn't seem to reflect how good he actually is on that end) and only has $20 million in guaranteed money with a $22 million player option the year after.

Parker wouldn't need to be included for salary purposes and I'd seriously doubt whether Cleveland would be even interested in a 35 year old coming off a serious injury. They may be fine with Rose starting and Murray coming off the bench.


Cavs Get

LaMarcus Aldridge
Danny Green
Dejounte Muray
2018 1st round pick

Spurs Get

Kyrie Irving
Tristan Thompson

[Chillen]

Didn't listen to the audio; however, if the idea is Parker, LMA and Green for Thompson and Kyrie I don't necessarily think that it's a horrible trade but needs some tweaks. Thompson is an above average defender and and excellent rebounder that's also still young (26 and a 1/2) and very durable but the Cavs may not be interested in owing him $52.4 million over the next three seasons, LMA is better offensively and solid defensively (though his reputation doesn't seem to reflect how good he actually is on that end) and only has $20 million in guaranteed money with a $22 million player option the year after.

Parker wouldn't need to be included for salary purposes and I'd seriously doubt whether Cleveland would be even interested in a 35 year old coming off a serious injury. They may be fine with Rose starting and Murray coming off the bench.


Cavs Get

LaMarcus Aldridge
Danny Green
Dejounte Muray
2018 1st round pick

Spurs Get

Kyrie Irving
Tristan Thompson

That's a fine trade for both teams, it must be LeBron keeping it from happening. Add in a report that Wade may get bought out and can choose between Cavs, Spurs. If he goes to Cavs the trade with Spurs would be even better for Cavs.

[cd021]

That's a fine trade for both teams, it must be LeBron keeping it from happening. Add in a report that Wade may get bought out and can choose between Cavs, Spurs. If he goes to Cavs the trade with Spurs would be even better for Cavs.

Was actually thinking the same thing, it seems almost inevitable that Wade would go to Cleveland for the remainder of the season and maybe back to Miami if and when Lebron leaves.

Spurs could use some depth at center, despite us seemingly going small with Gay potentially starting at PF. I wouldn't be opposed to using the opened roster spot on bringing back David Lee

[cd98]

Didn't listen to the audio; however, if the idea is Parker, LMA and Green for Thompson and Kyrie I don't necessarily think that it's a horrible trade but needs some tweaks. Thompson is an above average defender and and excellent rebounder that's also still young (26 and a 1/2) and very durable but the Cavs may not be interested in owing him $52.4 million over the next three seasons, LMA is better offensively and solid defensively (though his reputation doesn't seem to reflect how good he actually is on that end) and only has $20 million in guaranteed money with a $22 million player option the year after.

Parker wouldn't need to be included for salary purposes and I'd seriously doubt whether Cleveland would be even interested in a 35 year old coming off a serious injury. They may be fine with Rose starting and Murray coming off the bench.


Cavs Get

LaMarcus Aldridge
Danny Green
Dejounte Muray
2018 1st round pick

Spurs Get

Kyrie Irving
Tristan Thompson

Tristan is such a liability on offense, I just don't see how that works.

[cd021]

Tristan is such a liability on offense, I just don't see how that works.

I didn't realize that he was that bad of a FT shooter (career 61%) but in that scenario I would expect:


Irving-Mills-Parker-Forbes
Gay-Manu-Paul-White
Leonard-Anderson-Blossomgame
Bertans-Anderson
Thompson-Gasol-Lavergne-Costello

he'd be the roll man with 4 shooters while also providing good defense and rebounding, and a solid screen setter.

I think it's a good fit, but Aldridge is a better center than Thompson would be but if it nets us Kyrie then I'd be fine with it.