Limited skillset, too small and slow to defend anyone, and no toughness - people want to say he's "fearless" but, the moment things got physical, he wilted (in a Summer League game no less...).
Forbes sucks. I've said it before and I'll say it again that the Spurs like the kid and are just doing right by him keeping him around. However, he has no future with this team.
I don't think this article is suggesting the Spurs got rid of Lee because of Bertans. It's suggesting that Bertans "may have made Lee expendable" but it's only the writer's speculation and not pretending to be PATFO's thinking. Lee opted out because he thought he could get more money. I hope something happens for him. He worked hard for us and I'm guessing he was a good teammate. When people opt out they are gambling.
What mean expendable?
More like Lauvergne's signing made Lee expendable. Davis is a stretch four who retired Bonner
If anything made Lee expendable, it was a serious injury at an advanced age.
But Porkers at 15 mil a year isn't?
That's my whole point. They bent over backwards to accommodate Pau vs not offering Lee . ing w-h-y? Assuming Pau wanted to continue to pull fat paychecks beyond this upcoming season, and he obviously did.....what better way then to have him in a contract year? If he plays great -viola! Maybe he helps win a Championship. In all likelihood he is very motivated playing in a contract year. And if he sucks, we have the option of trading his expiring at midseason. Perfect scenario. But nooo, they give him some ridiculous verbal agreement in a fruitless pursuit of another of Pops Pets, the vastly overated CPChoke. Compound it by giving him 3 years. Oh ya I'm sure Pau will be super motivated now and for the next 3 years, we won't see any slacking at all.
All while burning Lee who was at 2.1 million and wanted a little raise?
I am not sure that they'll do what they've been doing recently. Neal has a relatively consistent role-player and Simmons had a "good" playoffs. The team has shown that they will re-sign deep rotation players that they can keep on the cheap. They did so with Mills in 2012 as well as Baynes in 2014. I think Bryn has an NBA skill and has shown decent development, but I would not go so far as to assume he'd get a great or even good offer on the market. SA would keep him in that cir stance.
Most likely to get cut are:
Paul
Lauvergne
Forbes
Murray
Anderson
Lauvergne an Murray ain't getting cut!!! Anderson an Forbes maybe trade bait.. which leaves Paul... he could be cut for the right big!!
Forbes is our best guard after Parker, Green, and Mills. Tbh
B3rtans.
I can only see a guy getting cut per se if he's completely inadequate for the role he has been assigned. If the issue is traditional big not playing well and Spurs wanting to pick up another, then I'd assume Lauvergne isn't playing well enough and is a liability out there. If that were the case, he'd be at risk.
Forbes needs to shoot better than he did last season. His niche is 3 pt shooting and that needs to improve at the NBA level otherwise he could be at risk. Hopefully he has a good season bc he will likely be needed.
Murray is just too young for a curtain call.
I expect Anderson to play well and have a good season.
I can't comment on BP3.
Unless a big were injured for a substantial time, I can't imagine Spurs cutting a perimeter player that is playing well. They seem to have made a choice to play differently and their biggest problem is Tony 's injury and Manu bring 40, rest games etc. That's,still going to remain the case.
it's 2017 and people still post articles from PTR
Think Paul might start if Green is injured/given a rest game. He's not raw, just lacks NBA experience, but I wouldn't be surprised if he has a slightly bigger role than most assume he will. He has the physical profile of a possible secondary Harden/Westbrook defender.
They do it when there's mutual interest from both sides and in the case of the player, that's generally only going to exist if there's a path to at least semi consistent minutes. In Forbes' case, he's permanently blocked. There's too much overlap between Mills and him and the former is entrenched. Barring something unforeseen, Murray and White aren't going anywhere anytime soon either.
It's all relative. Obviously, no one is breaking the bank on Forbes. I just mean a contract that would have him solidly in the league for a few years.
Not a chance Anderson, Lauvergne or Murray are cut.
Tony/Pop have a pact. Accept reality.But Porkers at 15 mil a year isn't?
Lee opted out, but I'm surprised the Spurs didn't ask him back when it was apparent they wouldn't get outbid. He brought a lot to the organization both on the floor and in the locker room. I'm fearful about all the unproven and prior season ineffectual "talent" we have on this year's roster.
At least Lee brought all he could give every single night. Dude played like a man on a mission, not someone lost on Mars. Probably our 3rd best player on many nights.
Spurs are in a rebuild while still contending. Big picture, probably giving Lee all those minutes (when someone young could be developing) doesn't help, imo.
I think you're right, but Lee was needed to play those minutes because the young guys couldn't get it done if we were going to win on many nights. Other than a roster spot he wouldn't have gotten in the way of developing young talent if that young talent could deliver. The Spurs have always blended the unproven guys with key veterans extremely well...probably better than any pro team ever has. But those veterans were usually guys like Lee who came here on value deals. This year our veteran leaders are eating a lot of payroll, which leaves the young talent pools perhaps a little less shiny than in previous seasons.
I say "perhaps" because I'm hoping I'm missing the diamonds in the rough that the Spurs have pulled up in the past.
But I have this recurring memory of David Robinson carrying a limited roster into the playoffs only to lose year after year (of which he didn't create an alias on social media to complain about). I don't want the same fate for Kawhi.
Yea, we don't know if Bertans and others can get it done on a nightly basis. We'll see.
Lee had several strikes against him including the season ending injury in playoffs, but I really liked the way he played in the team concept. Smart, good passer, and surprisingly good moves down low for scores. NOt to mention his enthusiasm on and off court when not playing. I think the guy from Denver will replace him in the front line, rather than Bertans.
We should block PTR articles from being published here.
Seconded.
I'll give you credit for switching accounts before saying something stupid.
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