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    I have no problem trying to get away from fossil fuels but I think there's going to be some pain involved. Not to mention that obtaining the material for these cars is not eco-friendly yet.

    https://www.mystateline.com/news/nat...g-gas-car-ban/

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    i mean the EV mandate isnt until 2035, but yeah they're going to have to do some reinvestment into the grid between now and then. i did see one really cool/fascinating project they just got started on

    California to install solar panels over canals to fight drought, a first in the U.S.



    According to TID, the project aims to use water and energy management hand-in-hand. The project is designed to increase renewable power generation, while reducing water evaporation and vegetative growth in canals.

    TID states that the project will also serve as a "proof of concept" to further study "solar over canal design." The agency cites a 2021 University of California, Merced study, which showed that covering all of the approximately 4,000 miles of public water delivery system infrastructure in the state with solar panels could save an estimated 63 billion gallons of water annually, as well as result in significant energy and cost savings.

    "According to the study, the 13 gigawatts of solar power the panels would generate each year would equal about one-sixth of the state's current installed capacity," TID wrote on its website.

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    Democrats are ruining that state.

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    "over the Labor Day weekend."

    Oil Pig propoganda headline trying to undermine conservation at any and all cost.

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    i mean the EV mandate isnt until 2035, but yeah they're going to have to do some reinvestment into the grid between now and then. i did see one really cool/fascinating project they just got started on
    Set Big Oil pigs and colluding politicians under the panels, bake at 900 for 2 days until dusty and you've got a win / win.

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    Democrats are ruining that state.
    https://wallethub.com/edu/states-wit...conomies/21697

    top 3 economy in the country
    8 of the top 10 are blue states

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    I have no problem trying to get away from fossil fuels but I think there's going to be some pain involved. Not to mention that obtaining the material for these cars is not eco-friendly yet.

    https://www.mystateline.com/news/nat...g-gas-car-ban/
    They'll never be eco-friendly whatsoever but the dumb masses lost their common sense many moons ago so they'll just continue to buy the lies that they're reducing their carbon footprint.

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    I have no problem trying to get away from fossil fuels but I think there's going to be some pain involved. Not to mention that obtaining the material for these cars is not eco-friendly yet.

    https://www.mystateline.com/news/nat...g-gas-car-ban/
    short of riding bicycles, things that are not public transportation are not going to be very eco-friendly. but relative to gas powered vehicles, EVs are objectively more eco-friendly

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    https://wallethub.com/edu/states-wit...conomies/21697

    top 3 economy in the country
    8 of the top 10 are blue states
    Did Democrats really ruin California?

    As a resident for 15 years, yes, democrats have absolutely ruined California for business, families and anyone who wants to use water for cleaning themselves.

    Every town has a piss poor economy, even during boom times. Only businesses who saddle up to local government have a chance at success, and that by definition is unfair. The regulations are excessively burdensome.

    You will submit to government at every step in business and residential planning, pay, wait, be told NO, change your plans to something they find acceptable, pay, and be told NO again, change again, and finally be told yes.

    I watched a guy go up before a city council two weeks ago and literally cry because the governing historical society would not allow him to fix his leaking roof, without planning meeting and approval by a board, who doesn’t meeting until 45 more days.

    There is no private property freedom in California. I watched 20 restaurants close in the city that I worked for, none came back after Covid-19. The shutdowns killed businesses.

    It’s all about government control in California, to with your rights, desires or dreams. Even before Covid-19, every city has failed, half-completed projects, whether residential or business. They are everywhere.

    Over 50 percent of store fronts are empty, before Covid-19. I have photos proving this to be true. There are empty commercial lots and buildings in the middle of cities that have been empty for 50 years. There is nothing good about the governing powers in California.

    The smallest, cleanest looking cities are even corrupt. They all see themselves as banks, lending to their business friends tax dollars for private business, risking where banks should be doing the risking.

    I watched last week as my city manager negotiated a 300k per year salary. His staff does the work, he takes all the credit before a corrupt city council, and he literally fights against his own staff getting raises. I recall him complaining publicly about the police department needing one million dollars per year for four new hires, which included vehicles and equipment.

    This guy is a greedy, corrupt piece of and people like him are the problem. He even bribed staff with extra pay, vacation time and gift cards to take the vaccine, even if doctors said they should not take it. I have the whole meeting recorded. This guy is corrupt as and if it’s any indicator, this small, wealthy city is a microcosm of what’s happening in the whole state.



    https://www.quora.com/Did-Democrats-...fornia?share=1


    California Democrats Destroy Once Successful State

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/...ia-apocalypto/

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    Leaving California: Elon Musk Moves To Texas And Takes Tesla With Him

    https://www.hoover.org/research/leav...akes-tesla-him


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    Did Democrats really ruin California?

    As a resident for 15 years, yes, democrats have absolutely ruined California for business, families and anyone who wants to use water for cleaning themselves.

    Every town has a piss poor economy, even during boom times. Only businesses who saddle up to local government have a chance at success, and that by definition is unfair. The regulations are excessively burdensome.

    You will submit to government at every step in business and residential planning, pay, wait, be told NO, change your plans to something they find acceptable, pay, and be told NO again, change again, and finally be told yes.

    I watched a guy go up before a city council two weeks ago and literally cry because the governing historical society would not allow him to fix his leaking roof, without planning meeting and approval by a board, who doesn’t meeting until 45 more days.

    There is no private property freedom in California. I watched 20 restaurants close in the city that I worked for, none came back after Covid-19. The shutdowns killed businesses.

    It’s all about government control in California, to with your rights, desires or dreams. Even before Covid-19, every city has failed, half-completed projects, whether residential or business. They are everywhere.

    Over 50 percent of store fronts are empty, before Covid-19. I have photos proving this to be true. There are empty commercial lots and buildings in the middle of cities that have been empty for 50 years. There is nothing good about the governing powers in California.

    The smallest, cleanest looking cities are even corrupt. They all see themselves as banks, lending to their business friends tax dollars for private business, risking where banks should be doing the risking.

    I watched last week as my city manager negotiated a 300k per year salary. His staff does the work, he takes all the credit before a corrupt city council, and he literally fights against his own staff getting raises. I recall him complaining publicly about the police department needing one million dollars per year for four new hires, which included vehicles and equipment.

    This guy is a greedy, corrupt piece of and people like him are the problem. He even bribed staff with extra pay, vacation time and gift cards to take the vaccine, even if doctors said they should not take it. I have the whole meeting recorded. This guy is corrupt as and if it’s any indicator, this small, wealthy city is a microcosm of what’s happening in the whole state.



    https://www.quora.com/Did-Democrats-...fornia?share=1


    California Democrats Destroy Once Successful State

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/...ia-apocalypto/
    dude still lives there

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    Leaving California: Elon Musk Moves To Texas And Takes Tesla With Him

    https://www.hoover.org/research/leav...akes-tesla-him

    Him and Rogan et al should go back tbh. I can't stand any of them.

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    Him and Rogan et al should go back tbh. I can't stand any of them.
    Rogan is voting Republican now so he's on the team. His voice is tremendous for the Conservative resurgence.

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    I have no problem trying to get away from fossil fuels but I think there's going to be some pain involved. Not to mention that obtaining the material for these cars is not eco-friendly yet.

    https://www.mystateline.com/news/nat...g-gas-car-ban/
    ERCOT asks the same about washing machines in Texas. Scare headline.

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    30 companies that conduct business with the state of #California contributed $1.6 million to Gov. #GavinNewsom’s gubernatorial campaigns while receiving over $5 billion in contracts with the state government, according to nonprofit watchdog Open The Books.

    Ho Lee Fuk


    https://www.theepochtimes.com/firms-...ce=truthsocial

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    short of riding bicycles, things that are not public transportation are not going to be very eco-friendly. but relative to gas powered vehicles, EVs are objectively more eco-friendly
    We'll see. As a whole, I agree that EV's are more eco-friendly. But I wonder about the impact on the local environment where the lithium is mined. Tbh, I haven't done enough research into it. I just don't think it's the eco panacea that everyone thinks.
    It's still all about money to the companies that produce the cars.

    https://ecojungle.net/post/lithium-e...mental-impact/

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