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  1. #121
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    Drew Brees vs Russell Wilson first six seasons

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    Best comp%...65.5
    Best yards season...4, 418(only one 4000 season)
    TD...27
    INT...had three seasons with 15 or more
    Best QB rating....104.8

    RW

    68.1
    4,219 (two 4000 seasons)
    34 (twice)
    11
    110.1

    Won't even talk about rushing.

    Yep, all Russell Wilson.

    Always compare athletes at the same stage of the career, ok?

    Will Wilson ever be on a level of Tom Brady and Drew Brees, of course not. But....he is a rare talent and will be "among" the greats when he leaves the games, top 20ish.
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    Big Ben had over 70 INTS, only one 4000 season, only one 100 QB rating, less TD's. No need to talk rushing. And it goes on and on.

    The best six seasons we have ever seen....Russell Wilson. Cat walked right in and took over, NOBODY has won more games before 30.

    No GREAT QB had his best seasons prior to 30, so RW will also play better. But, to compare 12-14 year vets to a guy with only 6 seasons, yep....rookie. And, how many seasons has Wilson the young cat been voted over the old vets to a pro bowl?

    Joe Montana never had more than 31 TD's (RW 34 twice) in any season, never had a 4000 (RW twice) yards season, has an inferior comp%,inferior TD/INT ratio, inferior QB ratings. Won't even talk rushing.

    Tom Brady vs Russell Wilson the first six seasons, not even close, all Russell Wilson, go ahead check it out.

    How could anyone not get this?

    This season was his best seasn, there he was running for his life.....3,983 passing, over 500 rushing, an NFL leading 34 TD (3 rushing-37) ANOTHER Pro Bowl. And there he was third and long constantly and its....MVP??

    Just how many rookies post here?


    This is before the MVP talk.










    Every game we see him play the announcers go bonkers, he's magic, awesome, incredible, then we come here and some idiot.....struggle.......are you kidding me?
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    Dude, love to point out just how stupid you really are, ok? Try bullying not meldown, ok rookie?

    Notice we never see this idiot ever actually come up with stats, numbers, facts? Just a dumb opinion based on .....Tom Savage the best QB in Texas...mentality.

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    I keep waiting and waiting and waiting for somebody to shut my...check the greats, compare their first six seasos to RW up......I never see anything because.....it does get checked out and it's.,...yep, he's right, nobody else compares, so I can't agree.

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    Brady, Big Ben, Rivers, Brees, Rodgers will all be gone and there's Russell Wilson at 35 with three more seasons to go, think about that.

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    Always have fun with this Russell Wilson deal, yep, it's funny.

    Here we have a guy breaking records, a pro bowl mainstay, the winningest QB in history (talking %). A guy where we always hear....

    Only Russell Wilson pulls that off
    He's magical
    Did I really just see that
    Amazing just amazing
    How does he do that?
    Wow!

    Here I am a guy who grew up wathing this...

    Lions...Milt Plum
    Packers...Bart Starr
    Vikes...Fran Tarkenton
    Niners...John Brodie
    Colts..John Unitas
    Bears...Bill Wade
    Rams...Roman Gabriel
    Redskins...Sonny Jurgenson
    Steelers...Ed Nelson
    Giants..Y.A.Tittle
    Eagles...Norm Snead
    Cowboys...Don Meredith
    Browns...Frank Ryan
    Cards...Charley Johnson
    Bills...Jack Kemp
    Oilers...George Blanda
    Pats...Babe Parilli
    Titans/Jets...ah...hmmm?
    Raiders...Tom Flores
    Chargers...Tobin Rote
    Texans/Chiefs...Len Dawson
    Broncos...Frank Tripucka


    Seen a TON of QB's, so why brag on Russell Wilson? Hell, I;m a Niner fan.

    His highlights video on a whole other level than any QB.

    Yes I know......way too long.....ha!

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    Always have fun with this Russell Wilson deal, yep, it's funny.

    Here we have a guy breaking records, a pro bowl mainstay, the winningest QB in history (talking %). A guy where we always hear....

    Only Russell Wilson pulls that off
    He's magical
    Did I really just see that
    Amazing just amazing
    How does he do that?
    Wow!

    Here I am a guy who grew up wathing this...

    Lions...Milt Plum
    Packers...Bart Starr
    Vikes...Fran Tarkenton
    Niners...John Brodie
    Colts..John Unitas
    Bears...Bill Wade
    Rams...Roman Gabriel
    Redskins...Sonny Jurgenson
    Steelers...Ed Nelson
    Giants..Y.A.Tittle
    Eagles...Norm Snead
    Cowboys...Don Meredith
    Browns...Frank Ryan
    Cards...Charley Johnson
    Bills...Jack Kemp
    Oilers...George Blanda
    Pats...Babe Parilli
    Titans/Jets...ah...hmmm?
    Raiders...Tom Flores
    Chargers...Tobin Rote
    Texans/Chiefs...Len Dawson
    Broncos...Frank Tripucka


    Seen a TON of QB's, so why brag on Russell Wilson? Hell, I;m a Niner fan.

    His highlights video on a whole other level than any QB.

    Yes I know......way too long.....ha!

    Everyone's take on that post is "Holy fuck that pedo is old"

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    Everyone's take on that post is "Holy fuck that pedo is old"
    BINGO~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    So when I talk it's backed with almost 60 years (got into football around 8ish) of experience, so ya might wannna take notes.

    I've seen football games where there wasn't one black player out there, think about that.

    When Fran Tarkenton retired he owned all the records, Wilson is the closest thing to him. Tarkenton could run and pass. Steve Young in this discussion also..
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    Look at the careers of any of the legendary QB's, not one of them was at their best pre 30. What Wilson has done pre 30 is remarkable and if you knew what others had done with the same experience then you'd get why I take the stance I do with this guy, yep, rare, unique, special.

    I know, I know, different era but.......Joe Montana at the same stage of the career not even in the same ballpark.

    2017 was the first season where we heard....MVP...talk for Wilson, why? No running game, a shit line, banged up D and the guy was STILL breaking NFL records, leading the league in TD passes. Smart football fans get this.....the guy was in third and long constantly and STILL made it work, who could have done that running for their lives but.....Russell Wilson?

    With a running game, a D the guy wins SB's. With none of that....MVP?
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    but muh struggle

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    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/11/nfl-...russell-wilson

    "But, but, it's all everyone else's fault and not Struggle's"

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    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/11/nfl-...russell-wilson

    "But, but, it's all everyone else's fault and not Struggle's"

    I'll go slow, you can do this.

    IF...it was like this.....handoff to Rawls, a quick 4 yards. A pitchout to Procise, 4 yards. Now it's 3rd and two and that D is thinking...pass? run? So there is no way they can just rush the QB. The Seahawks are winning SB's.

    When it's....handoff to Rawls, he's stuffed. A pitchout to Procise, he gains 2 yards. Now it's third and 8, yep....an obvious passing situation so here comes that psas rush and they goes Russell Wilson on the run again. In that situation the Seahawks come up a game short but another pro bowl and some MVP talk for Russell Wilson.

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    Love it.

    Never sat on a bench, never missed a game.

    Rookie TD record (with Peyton), a 100 passer rating
    Another 100 passer rating.....only QB to have two to start a career
    SB Champ

    Pro bowls along the way.

    Another SB, a yard away from winning two back to back.

    110.1 passer rating to lead the NFL

    4000/30/500....NFL record

    Pro bowls along the way.

    NFL record...most 4th quarter TD passes in a season.

    NFL leader 34 TD passes

    MVP chatter.

    Now add all those rushing yards.

    All that before 30 years old.

    I chanlenge this boad to show me any QB who compares to that before 30. Come on who? Wins, NFL firsts, playoff success, stats, rushing, combined.

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    How can anyone watch any of those sports talk shows and not hear all those guys raving aout Russell Wilson? Then you come here and here's the guy with the most expereince at this saying the same things. But you know better, how?

    I have yet to see anyone address.....why was Wilson in the MVP talk, well? Why is the guy in so many pro bowls, welll?
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    Notice how nobody even tries to dispute what I'm saying about Wilson? Yep, totally melting down, hahaha!

    Take any QB and compare their first six seasons vs Russell Wilson. Nobody did it better.

    Who started every game, played in two SB's, set NFL records, led the league with some stats, made four pro bowls.

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    Will that amazing scramble by Wilson before throwing to the leaping Baldwin be the play of the year in the NFL?


    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/11/seat...e-insane-video
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    Give me the name of a QB with superior QB ratings to this....

    2017...95.4
    2016...92.6
    2015....NFL leading 110.1
    2014...95.0
    2013...101.2...only QB to ever start out with 100 ratings back to back.
    2012...100.0

    In his first six seasons Dan Marino only had one 100 rating, a 108.9. Three times he had less than 90. That 108.9 was the only time he hit a 100 rating in his long career, Wilson already has three.

    In his first six seasons Tom Brady's best QB rating....92.6, four times less than 90.

    How about Drew Brees?

    What....67.5? 76.9? Three times under 90, he did have one 100....a 104.8

    Is there anyone who compares?

    The great Johnny Unitas?

    What....66.1, 73.7, 74.0, his best 92.0. In his 18 year career Johnny U never hsd a 100 rating season.

    Tom Brady doesn't stack up at all, Aaron Rodgers sat on a bench how long?

    How about Brett Favre?

    Not even close. actually a...hahaha! Hell, in his 20 year career he only had....one.....100 rating.

    Wait a minute..............Peyton Manning.

    Nope! his best...99.0 and three times he was under 100.

    Could it be the great, amazing , the one and only.....JOE FLACCO...to better RW?

    Are you kidding me? The guy has never had a 100 rating, five times he had less than 90.

    Hell, "Slingin' " Sammy Baugh?
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    Wilson will play the 2018 season as a 30 year old.

    So who can find me the QB who did it better than he did before 30? Who?

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    The fun I have with this Russell Wilson trip is this.....

    Brees, Brady, Big Ben, Rodgers will be gone, now think.

    Wilson was better than all of them at the same six seasons, think of where he'll be after 12-14 seasons, he's already ahead of them.

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    I just get a kick out of....

    ANOTHER NFL RECORD FOR RUSSELL WILSON. ANOTHER PRO BOWL FOR RUSSELL WILSON.

    ....it's fun,

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    So Wilson ges into a big argument with Carroll, he wants out he can't take the beating anymore. Wilson is releashed and can sign with anyone. (yep, fantasy)

    Every team in the league except, NE, GB, NO, would jump at the chance to have Russell Wilson.

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    I just get a kick out of...

    WILSON SCRAMBLES... SACKED FOR A LOSS OF 20! WILSON THROWS... PICKED OFF! AND THE SEAHAWKS MISS THE PLAYOFFS!

    ...it's fun,

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    Give me the name of a QB with superior QB ratings to this....

    2017...95.4
    2016...92.6
    2015....NFL leading 110.1
    2014...95.0
    2013...101.2...only QB to ever start out with 100 ratings back to back.
    2012...100.0

    In his first six seasons Dan Marino only had one 100 rating, a 108.9. Three times he had less than 90. That 108.9 was the only time he hit a 100 rating in his long career, Wilson already has three.

    In his first six seasons Tom Brady's best QB rating....92.6, four times less than 90.

    How about Drew Brees?

    What....67.5? 76.9? Three times under 90, he did have one 100....a 104.8

    Is there anyone who compares?

    The great Johnny Unitas?

    What....66.1, 73.7, 74.0, his best 92.0. In his 18 year career Johnny U never hsd a 100 rating season.

    Tom Brady doesn't stack up at all, Aaron Rodgers sat on a bench how long?

    How about Brett Favre?

    Not even close. actually a...hahaha! Hell, in his 20 year career he only had....one.....100 rating.

    Wait a minute..............Peyton Manning.

    Nope! his best...99.0 and three times he was under 100.

    Could it be the great, amazing , the one and only.....JOE FLACCO...to better RW?

    Are you kidding me? The guy has never had a 100 rating, five times he had less than 90.

    Hell, "Slingin' " Sammy Baugh?
    I see someone conveniently left Rodgers first 6 seasons as a starter off his faggy list. I wonder why that is. Almost like he was scared Rodgers was gonna ruin his faggy point. That cant be it though.

    2008: 93.8
    2009: 103.2
    2010: 101.2
    2011: 122.5
    2012: 108.0
    2013: 104.9

    Now play your faggy, well Rodgers didnt start right away card. Rodgers first 6 years as a starter take a giant shit on Russ's. Thats not to say Russ isn't great, but your cherry picking makes this all pretty obvious.
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    I just get a kick out of...

    WILSON SCRAMBLES... SACKED FOR A LOSS OF 20! WILSON THROWS... PICKED OFF! AND THE SEAHAWKS MISS THE PLAYOFFS!

    ...it's fun,
    Dummy, the Seahawks were a missed FG from making the playoffs. Do you ever ger anything right?

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    I see someone conveniently left Rodgers first 6 seasons as a starter off his faggy list. I wonder why that is. Almost like he was scared Rodgers was gonna ruin his faggy point. That cant be it though.

    2008: 93.8
    2009: 103.2
    2010: 101.2
    2011: 122.5
    2012: 108.0
    2013: 104.9

    Now play your faggy, well Rodgers didnt start right away card. Rodgers first 6 years as a starter take a giant shit on Russ's. Thats not to say Russ isn't great, but your cherry picking makes this all pretty obvious.
    I see somebody can't figure out....first six seasons. RW walked right in and took over he never sat on a bench, that is what this is about.

    Guy starts from day one, wins a SB, sets numerous NFL records, makes numerous pro bowls, leads the NFL with TD passes, ties rookie TD record, leads the NFL with a 110.1 QB rating, all before 30. And when the players vote for the top 100 players for 2017, what....15? Winningest QB in NFL history after first six seasons.

    No QB in NFL history had ever posted back to back 100 QB rating their first two seasons until Russell Wilson.

    No QB in NFL history had ever thrown for 4000 yards, scored overr 30 TD's, rushed for over 500 yards in a season until Russell Wilson.

    No rookie WB had ever thrown more TD passes than Russell Wilson.

    No QB in history has ever thrown more TD passes in the 4th quarter in a season than Russell Wilson.

    Who has more passing/rushing yards combined before 30?

    His highlights video on a whole other level than anyone elses. The things he can do, stunning~~~~~~~~

    Coach....you sit right over here Aaron and learn all you can from Brett, ok?

    Coach...it's your team Russell, so just do your thing.

    Hopefully you can see the difference there.

    This season with no line, no running game what were we hearing/reading, yep.....MVP??? How anyone who understand this game can't see the greatness ......??????????
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    Dummy, the Seahawks were a missed FG from making the playoffs. Do you ever ger anything right?
    The Seahawks were a real QB from making the playoffs.

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    The Seahawks were a real QB from making the playoffs.
    So, Aex Smith, Marcus Mariota, Blake Bortles, Case Keenum, Cam Newton, Matt Ryan are all better than Russell Wilson?

    Dude, tell us all again about how Tom Savage....hahahahahaha~~~~~~~~~ Why this idiot even talks QB's...????

    Shouldn't Derek Anderson be starting instead of Cam Newton? Dude, you are retarded.

    Dude, Wilson is in ANOTHER pro bowl, why does he make so many, now think, ok?

    I always wonder what goes thru this idiots head when he's watching a Seahawks game and those tv announcers are raving about Wilson. He's magical, awesome, only Russell Wilson can do that....etc etc. Then the dummy comes here and here I am a guy who has seen them all since the late 50's raving about Russell Wilson. Real easy to see how this dummy could say......TOM SAVAGE THE BEST QB IN TEXAS, PERIOD.
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