Page 1 of 7 12345 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 156
  1. #1
    I am that guy RandomGuy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Post Count
    50,681
    Flake didn't mince words.


    Outgoing Arizona Republican Sen. Jeff Flake launched a fiery attack on President Trump Wednesday over Trump’s criticisms of the media -- alleging that the president pushes “pernicious fantasies,” uses Stalinist language and causes global instability by undermining the free press.

    "An American president who cannot take criticism, who must constantly deflect and distort and distract, who must find someone else to blame is charting a very dangerous path. And a Congress that fails to act as a check on the president adds to the danger,"” Flake said.

    He also criticized Trump for describing the press as “the enemy of the people,” a phrase he said was used by mass-murdering Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin.

    "The free press is the despot’s enemy, which makes the free press the guardian of democracy," he said. "When a figure in power reflexively calls any press that doesn’t suit him “fake news,” it is that person who should be the figure of su ion, not the press."

    He criticized Trump not only for his attacks on the media, which he claimed had given encouragement to dictators in Syria and the Philippines to undermine the press, but also for his own promotion of dubious stories.

    "Not only has the past year seen a president borrow despotic language to refer to the free press, but it seems that he has now in turn inspired authoritarians and dictators with his own language," he said.

    In particular, Flake cited what he called Trump’s “pernicious fantasies about rigged elections and voter fraud, which are as destructive as they are inaccurate.”

    ...
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...or-speech.html

  2. #2
    Veteran hater's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Post Count
    70,923
    calling cnn,wapo and nyt the “free press”.

    They been CIA mouthpiecs for decades

  3. #3
    faggy opinion + certainty Mark Celibate's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Mavericks
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    4,376
    Except we don’t have a free press. They are owned by the same group of a few people, and state the same message in lockstep for the same masters. Any alternative media is immediately denounced as “fake news” by the globalist media cabal.

  4. #4
    Take the fcking keys away baseline bum's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    93,306
    And yet Flake keeps voting with the Dear Leader when it actually matters. Flake is just being an attention trying to prop sales of his book. He had a check and a balance in his monumentally important swing vote in the senate, but he never used it. him.

  5. #5
    Veteran hater's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Post Count
    70,923
    Turner and Bezos probably promised him a gazillion dollars for this stunt.


  6. #6
    faggy opinion + certainty Mark Celibate's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Mavericks
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    4,376
    Isn’t Jeff fake quitting or am I getting mixed up? Let’s get a real senator in there.

  7. #7
    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Post Count
    96,219
    Except we don’t have a free press. They are owned by the same group of a few people, and state the same message in lockstep for the same masters. Any alternative media is immediately denounced as “fake news” by the globalist media cabal.
    lol no. "fake news" was a term originally coined to describe the like "POPE ENDORSES DONALD TRUMP" stories that were being shared on social media.

    now trump uses the term to describe anything he doesn't like. "globalist media cartel" doesn't go around calling alternative media fake news unless they're demonstrably fake like hillary's body double

  8. #8
    I am that guy RandomGuy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Post Count
    50,681
    Isn’t Jeff fake quitting or am I getting mixed up? Let’s get a real senator in there.
    Easy.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ake/900777001/

  9. #9
    I am that guy RandomGuy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Post Count
    50,681
    Except we don’t have a free press. They are owned by the same group of a few people, and state the same message in lockstep for the same masters. Any alternative media is immediately denounced as “fake news” by the globalist media cabal.
    We have a free press. "alternative media" tends to have ty journalism, and is generally rightfully mocked. Unless you are a big fan of Alex Jones' overpriced supplements.


  10. #10
    I am that guy RandomGuy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Post Count
    50,681


    Yummy bone broth.

  11. #11
    Veteran hater's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Post Count
    70,923
    lol no. "fake news" was a term originally coined to describe the like "POPE ENDORSES DONALD TRUMP" stories that were being shared on social media.

    now trump uses the term to describe anything he doesn't like. "globalist media cartel" doesn't go around calling alternative media fake news unless they're demonstrably fake like hillary's body double
    Lol no. Fake News was coined in 2016 by an obscure site called PropOrNot in conjuction with the Washington Post. They listed lots of legitimate independent news sites and called them Russia Propaganda and.... Fake News.

    Here are some details:
    After returning from a Thanksgiving trip to Philadelphia on Saturday, I received word that Consortiumnews.com, the 21-year-old investigative news site that has challenged misguided “group thinks” whether from Republicans, Democrats or anyone else over those two-plus decades, was included among some 200 Internet sites spreading what some anonymous Web site, PropOrNot, deems “Russian propaganda.”

    I would normally ignore such nonsense but it was elevated by The Washington Post, which treated these unnamed “independent researchers” as sophisticated experts who “tracked” the Russian propaganda operation and assembled the black list.

    And I’m not joking when I say that these neo-McCarthyites go unnamed. The Post’s article by Craig Timberg on Thursday described PropOrNot simply as “a nonpartisan collection of researchers with foreign policy, military and technology backgrounds [who] planned to release its own findings Friday showing the startling reach and effectiveness of Russian propaganda campaigns.”

    From consortiumnews

    So Celibates description is pretty spot on

  12. #12
    I am that guy RandomGuy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Post Count
    50,681
    Jones, despite his laughable theories, is a pretty good example of what a free press looks like.

    He can claim all sorts of about those in power, with little to ever back him up, and the kinds of he gets away with here would have him locked in a cell in many countries that now get to use Trumps example to hide behind.

  13. #13
    Veteran hater's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Post Count
    70,923
    Here is the link to the original WaPo article that basically started the Fake News meme and was parroted by cnn and other “free press”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.3482d59cf471

  14. #14
    Believe. Pavlov's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Post Count
    41,752
    Lol no. Fake News was coined in 2016 by an obscure site called PropOrNot in conjuction with the Washington Post. They listed lots of legitimate independent news sites and called them Russia Propaganda and.... Fake News.

    Here are some details:
    After returning from a Thanksgiving trip to Philadelphia on Saturday, I received word that Consortiumnews.com, the 21-year-old investigative news site that has challenged misguided “group thinks” whether from Republicans, Democrats or anyone else over those two-plus decades, was included among some 200 Internet sites spreading what some anonymous Web site, PropOrNot, deems “Russian propaganda.”

    I would normally ignore such nonsense but it was elevated by The Washington Post, which treated these unnamed “independent researchers” as sophisticated experts who “tracked” the Russian propaganda operation and assembled the black list.

    And I’m not joking when I say that these neo-McCarthyites go unnamed. The Post’s article by Craig Timberg on Thursday described PropOrNot simply as “a nonpartisan collection of researchers with foreign policy, military and technology backgrounds [who] planned to release its own findings Friday showing the startling reach and effectiveness of Russian propaganda campaigns.”

    From consortiumnews

    So Celibates description is pretty spot on
    another conspiracy!

  15. #15
    I am that guy RandomGuy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Post Count
    50,681
    Lol no. Fake News was coined in 2016 by an obscure site called PropOrNot in conjuction with the Washington Post. They listed lots of legitimate independent news sites and called them Russia Propaganda and.... Fake News.

    Here are some details:
    After returning from a Thanksgiving trip to Philadelphia on Saturday, I received word that Consortiumnews.com, the 21-year-old investigative news site that has challenged misguided “group thinks” whether from Republicans, Democrats or anyone else over those two-plus decades, was included among some 200 Internet sites spreading what some anonymous Web site, PropOrNot, deems “Russian propaganda.”

    I would normally ignore such nonsense but it was elevated by The Washington Post, which treated these unnamed “independent researchers” as sophisticated experts who “tracked” the Russian propaganda operation and assembled the black list.

    And I’m not joking when I say that these neo-McCarthyites go unnamed. The Post’s article by Craig Timberg on Thursday described PropOrNot simply as “a nonpartisan collection of researchers with foreign policy, military and technology backgrounds [who] planned to release its own findings Friday showing the startling reach and effectiveness of Russian propaganda campaigns.”

    From consortiumnews

    So Celibates description is pretty spot on
    https://medium.com/@thewokerise/our-...o-8a0c7f114900

  16. #16
    Veteran hater's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Post Count
    70,923
    Cant blame Trump for hating the “free press” as they have spread fake news after fake news of the Russia hoax for over a year now.

    Lets remember one of the most blatant fake news events:

    FRIDAY WAS ONE of the most embarrassing days for the U.S. media in quite a long time. The humiliation orgy was kicked off by CNN, with MSNBC and CBS close behind, and countless pundits, commentators, and operatives joining the party throughout the day. By the end of the day, it was clear that several of the nation’s largest and most influential news outlets had spread an explosive but completely false news story to millions of people, while refusing to provide any explanation of how it happened.





    Turns out they had the wrong date for the incriminating email and it was actually sent AFTER wikileaks had released the info

    There was just one small problem with this story: It was fundamentally false, in the most embarrassing way possible. Hours after CNN broadcast its story — and then hyped it over and over and over — the Washington Post reported that CNN got the key fact of the story wrong.

    The email was not dated September 4, as CNN claimed, but rather September 14 — which means it was sent after WikiLeaks had already published access to the DNC emails online. Thus, rather than offering some sort of special access to Trump, “Michael J. Erickson” was simply some random person from the public encouraging the Trump family to look at the publicly available DNC emails that WikiLeaks — as everyone by then already knew — had publicly promoted. In other words, the email was the exact opposite of what CNN presented it as being.




    So you cant really blame Trump or Trump s for hating the fake news media tbqh

  17. #17
    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Post Count
    96,219
    Lol no. Fake News was coined in 2016 by an obscure site called PropOrNot in conjuction with the Washington Post. They listed lots of legitimate independent news sites and called them Russia Propaganda and.... Fake News.

    Here are some details:
    After returning from a Thanksgiving trip to Philadelphia on Saturday, I received word that Consortiumnews.com, the 21-year-old investigative news site that has challenged misguided “group thinks” whether from Republicans, Democrats or anyone else over those two-plus decades, was included among some 200 Internet sites spreading what some anonymous Web site, PropOrNot, deems “Russian propaganda.”

    I would normally ignore such nonsense but it was elevated by The Washington Post, which treated these unnamed “independent researchers” as sophisticated experts who “tracked” the Russian propaganda operation and assembled the black list.

    And I’m not joking when I say that these neo-McCarthyites go unnamed. The Post’s article by Craig Timberg on Thursday described PropOrNot simply as “a nonpartisan collection of researchers with foreign policy, military and technology backgrounds [who] planned to release its own findings Friday showing the startling reach and effectiveness of Russian propaganda campaigns.”

    From consortiumnews

    So Celibates description is pretty spot on
    Here is the link to the original WaPo article that basically started the Fake News meme and was parroted by cnn and other “free press”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.3482d59cf471
    so what alternative news outlets did WaPo actually call "fake news"

  18. #18
    Believe. Pavlov's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Post Count
    41,752
    Cant blame Trump for hating the “free press” as they have spread fake news after fake news of the Russia hoax for over a year now.

    Lets remember one of the most blatant fake news events:

    FRIDAY WAS ONE of the most embarrassing days for the U.S. media in quite a long time. The humiliation orgy was kicked off by CNN, with MSNBC and CBS close behind, and countless pundits, commentators, and operatives joining the party throughout the day. By the end of the day, it was clear that several of the nation’s largest and most influential news outlets had spread an explosive but completely false news story to millions of people, while refusing to provide any explanation of how it happened.





    Turns out they had the wrong date for the incriminating email and it was actually sent AFTER wikileaks had released the info

    There was just one small problem with this story: It was fundamentally false, in the most embarrassing way possible. Hours after CNN broadcast its story — and then hyped it over and over and over — the Washington Post reported that CNN got the key fact of the story wrong.

    The email was not dated September 4, as CNN claimed, but rather September 14 — which means it was sent after WikiLeaks had already published access to the DNC emails online. Thus, rather than offering some sort of special access to Trump, “Michael J. Erickson” was simply some random person from the public encouraging the Trump family to look at the publicly available DNC emails that WikiLeaks — as everyone by then already knew — had publicly promoted. In other words, the email was the exact opposite of what CNN presented it as being.




    So you cant really blame Trump or Trump s for hating the fake news media tbqh
    The thing is they correct themselves.

    Fake news never does.

  19. #19
    Veteran hater's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Post Count
    70,923
    so what alternative news outlets did WaPo actually call "fake news"
    List should be in this shady site
    http://www.propornot.com/p/home.html?m=1

    WaPo pimping that ty site

    Ron Paul listed There

  20. #20
    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Post Count
    96,219
    List should be in this shady site
    http://www.propornot.com/p/home.html?m=1

    WaPo pimping that ty site

    Ron Paul listed There


    Editor’s Note: The Washington Post on Nov. 24 published a story on the work of four sets of researchers who have examined what they say are Russian propaganda efforts to undermine American democracy and interests. One of them was PropOrNot, a group that insists on public anonymity, which issued a report identifying more than 200 websites that, in its view, wittingly or unwittingly published or echoed Russian propaganda. A number of those sites have objected to being included on PropOrNot’s list, and some of the sites, as well as others not on the list, have publicly challenged the group’s methodology and conclusions. The Post, which did not name any of the sites, does not itself vouch for the validity of PropOrNot’s findings regarding any individual media outlet, nor did the article purport to do so. Since publication of The Post’s story, PropOrNot has removed some sites from its list.

  21. #21
    faggy opinion + certainty Mark Celibate's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Mavericks
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    4,376
    We have a free press. "alternative media" tends to have ty journalism, and is generally rightfully mocked. Unless you are a big fan of Alex Jones' overpriced supplements.
    nah dude, all media is owned by a handful of corporations. And they coordinate together to run the same narratives. You can believe their lies but I won’t. Free press my ass. 90% negative coverage press bias.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/these...america-2012-6

  22. #22
    Veteran hater's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Post Count
    70,923
    So they retracted some of the story later. This is not news, WaPo has been retracting and updating their fake news articles daily.

    The damage by the original fake news was done. And that is the origin of the “fake news” meme

  23. #23
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Post Count
    11,983
    "Free press" should focus on more pressing issues than the president's obesity and potty mouth...or at least not let it be it's top stories the vast majority of the last 7 days.

    And American news outlets have basically boiled down to a great representation of the American general population- camps of political bias.

  24. #24
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Post Count
    11,983

    Sorry...just had to.

  25. #25
    Believe. Pavlov's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Post Count
    41,752
    So they retracted some of the story later. This is not news, WaPo has been retracting and updating their fake news articles daily.

    The damage by the original fake news was done. And that is the origin of the “fake news” meme
    What did the original story say that was different?

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •