son first I dislike the #checkmystats analysis of the game and also the commentator sounds like a got, so I'm not a fan. Exactly the type of idiots who can't understand deep playmaking, shifting positional centers in a midfield or the value of false runs.
2nd baseball is more demanding on your stomach and on your ass tbh, it's hard to even jog without taking a after eating 2 burgers ... and in baseball they have to eat like 5 before even being allowed near the pitch. That's cruelty tbh
I wonder why the usual suspects haven't posted on this thread.
Baseball deals with "blade of grass" sized margin for errors every pitch and every swing.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/hi...203005571.htmlHitters only have 125 milliseconds to gauge the average Major League fastball – less than the blink of an eye. Which begs the question: how is it humanly possible?
http://www.businessinsider.com/scien...on-time-2016-4
Nothing Messi did in that video challenges the limits of human cognition and reaction times (the batter/pitcher matchup is on the bleeding edge of human reaction time at ~120ms). You would instantly understand by stepping into a batting cage throwing you even lowly 70mph pitches. Average Joe here couldn't even catch a 100mph fastball from a machine (meaning it would have much less movement than a Chapman fastball).
You mistake flash for difficulty (note: what Messi did is of course extremely difficult, and he's probably the only player in the world who can make that play, but in context, it isn't any more "difficult" or impressive than Machado throwing an off balance 160 foot throw on the money from from foul territory (similarly, he's the only 3 basemen in the world who can make that play).
Oh, and the final nail in the coffin of this debate between which sport is more demanding is the relative "ready" times to play pro soccer vs. pro baseball. If we can somewhat quantify "demanding" by time spent learning a skill, baseball proves itself as probably the most demanding major sport on the planet given the fact that prospects need, at the very least, 2 to 3 seasons in the minors before they're even considered for a call up, and these are high round draft picks. You won't see 16 and 17 year olds in the MLB making their debut anytime soon like you do in soccer at the highest leagues.
Thinking soccer players don't deal with "blade of grass" margin of error several times during a game.
Baseball deals with "blade of grass" sized margin for errors every pitch and every swing.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/hi...203005571.html
http://www.businessinsider.com/scien...on-time-2016-4
Nothing Messi did in that video challenges the limits of human cognition and reaction times (the batter/pitcher matchup is on the bleeding edge of human reaction time at ~120ms). You would instantly understand by stepping into a batting cage throwing you even lowly 70mph pitches. Average Joe here couldn't even catch a 100mph fastball from a machine (meaning it would have much less movement than a Chapman fastball).
You mistake flash for difficulty (note: what Messi did is of course extremely difficult, and he's probably the only player in the world who can make that play, but in context, it isn't any more "difficult" or impressive than Machado throwing an off balance 160 foot throw on the money from from foul territory (similarly, he's the only 3 basemen in the world who can make that play).
And not just to score. They have to deal with that margin of error to control a ball, to dribble past somebody, to make a pass, etc.
It is way more possible for Messi to get a hit on an MLB pitcher than for a MLB player to do what Messi did there.
Seriously? You're comparing an outstanding play made by a once in a generation talent to a routine thing in baseball. No. The comparison would be Messi's play vs. Stanton launching a 98 mph fastball 480 feet. Messi has zero chance, even given an infinite number of chances, of doing that. Same can be said for Stanton trying to do what Messi did. Messi also would have zero chance of getting a base hit against MLB pitching if his swing looked something like this (which is probably would).Thinking soccer players don't deal with "blade of grass" margin of error several times during a game.
And not just to score. They have to deal with that margin of error to control a ball, to dribble past somebody, to make a pass, etc.
It is way more possible for Messi to get a hit on an MLB pitcher than for a MLB player to do what Messi did there.
And do know why it's impossible? An MLB player can perform a complete swing in 130-190ms, with bat speeds over 100mph. "Average Joes," even those who've played baseball, perform these tasks at around 300ms and 50mph respectively. Even swinging wildly and hoping to get lucky won't help (note, you will not hit live pitching swinging wildly), since there's not enough bat speed to hit the ball hard. A lucky infield single might be possibility, but again, baseball doesn't work the way you think it does. An average person trying to "get lucky" against real pitching would work as well as aimlessly kicking a soccer ball as hard as you can from 50 yards out and hoping to score a goal.
OP has obviously never played baseball with apalisoc_9.
I belive the youngest professional soccer player was 12 years old. Might have been a stunt and it was like an under-20 league, but still a professional league. There have been several 16 year olds who have played in the English Premier League, even recently. Not stunts, not gimmicks. 16 year olds against grown ass adult males at the highest level. English Premier League.
How physically demanding is it if under developed, not fully mature "kids" can hang with those considered to be the very best in the game? It's not one LeBron James, Ken Griffey, Jr. once in a generation example. Multiple examples of 16 year olds playing in the EPL.
I like soccer. But it really is a poverty sport that requires less skill than most other pro sports. If you can run hard, have good wind and the endurance to run hard for a long time, you can be good at soccer. Strength, quickness, jumping ability, agility, foot-eye coordination are all bonuses. Not requirements.
Indeed. That's the killshot in the "soccer is so demanding" debate. Hotshot "prodigies" sometimes don't make it out of Low-A ball, while loads of 18 year old soccer players make their debuts in the biggest leagues and have productive seasons. Now, the soccer crew will counter that soccer is a young man's game while baseball is a an old man's game, but the aging curves are about identical.
But they run around or something.
There's no such thing as an "U-20" professional league, tbh.
Also, all that last part is complete bull . Those things you named aren't "bonuses" they are ing requirements.
I can assure you that the least talented soccer player has the regular person beat on all those things you named by a big ass margin.
On baseball you can get by with justo hand-eye coordination. On football you need all those things you mentioned and then some.
ing new phone is making me take twice the time to write and it still changes all my ing words.
https://www.theguardian.com/football...st-footballers
You're right. It wasn't an under-20 league. It was a full adult Bolivian football league. 12 year old in an adult professional league. The coach was the 12 year old's father, so as I mentioned above, it was a stunt. But it happened. 12 year old professional football player.
Beisbol takes less stamina to play, outside of maybe a pitcher throwing a ball like that is pretty tasking. In terms of skill required, beisbol has got to be one of the harder widely played sports while bukkakeball is significantly easier to get into (that's probably why so many countries play it, besides it being cheap as dirt to play). I'm not too much into beisbol, but I can recognize that it's one of the most difficult major sports.
Are you seriously dumb? MLB clubs demand sub-7.0 60 yard dash times from all position players, and they would really like the number to be more around 6.7 and sub-6.6 for outfielders. Those times translate into about a 4.8-5.0 40. And all the hand-eye coordination in the world won't help you if you lack the necessary world class core strength to hit a baseball 100-120mph (or throw one 90-100mph). You need top tier lateral quickness to break on balls from a standing position in the outfield and middle infield positions and great body control and agility to make off-balance, wrong footed throws from 90 feet and beyond.There's no such thing as an "U-20" professional league, tbh.
Alzó, all that last part is complete bull . Those things you named aren't "bonuses" they are ing requirements.
I can assure you that the least talented soccer player has the regular person beat on all those things you named by a big ass margin.
On baseball you can get by with justo hand-eye coordination. On football you need all those things you mentioned and then some.
Look, I won't personally compare the athletic/skill demands of baseball to soccer, since I didn't play the latter, but I can compare it to basketball and football, and while of course those two sports have athletic events that look flashier, they are generally easier to execute at a par level than baseball actions. Most people who've played all 3 sports growing up to at least the high school level agree. Baseball actions are harder because you're dealing with greater distances (which don't translate well on television. A "routine" throw from 3rd to 1st is only 20 feet fewer than half a football field), much greater speeds, and a much greater precision demand. This, again, is why lifelong baseball players who are drafted high need years in the minors before they're ready. NBA players can be ready at 18, and there's dozens of NFL players who picked up the game in college and made it.
But yeah, no running around.
All you need to master is one thing and you are set. So ing difficult.
Yeah, mastering hitting really helps with your throwing accuracy and fielding fundamentalsAll you need to master is one thing and you are set. So ing difficult.
And besides, weighted skills. Getting good at hitting is far more difficult than learning the combined dribbling, shooting, and defensive fundamentals needed to play good basketball. Trying to quantify difficulty by citing number of skills needed is silly. You quantify it by time. Again, baseball 1st rounders are rarely ready straight out of the draft, while NBA draft picks are ready immediately.
If a guy has supreme hand-eye coordination, he can be as slow as a love balad and will still make it professionally. I doubt David Ortiz ran sub 7.0 60 yds dashes, tbh.
And many 16 and 17 year olds.
https://www.thesportster.com/soccer/...eague-history/
All from the modern era of soccer, too. There hasn't been an MLB player younger than 19 in 47 years.
Are you forgetting how in' strong David Ortiz is/was?
Also, DHs are specialist positions, like a goalkeeper. Goalkeepers have had top sprint speeds clocked as low a 16mph (they might be faster, but they don't routinely use their speed). Ortiz reached 16mph in his last season. Goalies need a good vert, quick reaction times, and a strong leg, but DHs need quicker reaction times, load of pure strength (yeah, Ortiz's 6'3" linebacker frame is a product of his hand-eye coordination), and some speed. DHs who can't run are worthless. Pujols was the worst player in the league by far and should retire, even though he had a 20HR/100RBI season.
Beisbol is hard.
To watch
lol Kickball.
lol 90 minutes of running around for a tie
lol Boring.
How many times will these brainlets get owned by baseball fans before they learn?
Oh yeah, I was forgetting: hand-eye coordination and eat your way to some mass.Are you forgetting how in' strong David Ortiz is/was?
Also, DHs are specialist positions, like a goalkeeper. Goalkeepers have had top sprint speeds clocked as low a 16mph (they might be faster, but they don't routinely use their speed). Ortiz reached 16mph in his last season. Goalies need a good vert, quick reaction times, and a strong leg, but DHs need quicker reaction times, load of pure strength (yeah, Ortiz's 6'3" linebacker frame is a product of his hand-eye coordination
@midnightcuck stop spamming with useless . you're dumb as and everybody knows it, cheeky got smh.
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