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  1. #26
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    So why the lies?
    You tell me, you're the liar.

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    I talked about my take on ass pedos already here, you can't read?

    If you lived in central Cali you'd hate s also, ers are a mess.

    I'm a HUGE fan of the black man, , wish I was black.

    There is nobody anywhere on my level when it comes to the who, what, where and when in track and field.
    Don't give a about the technical aspects of it anymore than you do. is boring as .

    So what is wrong down here?

    World Records
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    9.9* Steve Williams USA Los Angeles Jun 21, 1972
    9.9* Reggie Robinson USA Eugene Jul 01, 1972
    9.9* Eddie Hart USA Eugene Jul 01, 1972
    How do you think Owens would stack up if he raced on a modern track, Avante? Read an article saying he'd probably be within a tenth of Bolt given the differences in wasted energy from the track of Owen's time compared to now.

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    How do you think Owens would stack up if he raced on a modern track, Avante? Read an article saying he'd probably be within a tenth of Bolt given the differences in wasted energy from the track of Owen's time compared to now.
    The thing with Owens is the story. The black boy from Alabama in Hitlers Germany, beating up on his Supermen. In reality Owens was a far better long jumper than he was a sprinter, he lost a lot in the sprints. Four times he ran in our USA Nationals in the 100m, he only won once.

    Maquettes Ralph Metcalfe and Temples Eulace Pea beat Owens a ton of times in the 100. Pea once beat Owens five races in a row.

    Owens ran a 10.2 on bad dirt tracks, he also ran a 9.4 for yards. Bob Hayes also ran on dirt tracks in the 60's, he ran a 10.06/9.1. With his 5-11 190 pounds he is the guy who would be able to compete today, not Jesse Owens. Ah....other than the long jump.

    I could see Owens running a 10.05ish with todays training, ete etc etc. Nothing remotely close to a 9.60, which is where Bolt lived.

    As you can see he was not dominate.

    USA Nationals

    1936
    F: 100 meters; S/F: 6/6; D: 04 JUL
    1 Jesse Owens 10.4 =MR
    2 Ralph Metcalfe 10.6e
    3 Samuel Stoller
    4 Foy Draper
    5 Marty Glickman
    6 Ben Johnson
    1935
    F: 100 meters; S/F: 6/6; D: 04 JUL; W: +7.8 mph
    1 Eulace Pea 10.2w
    2 Ralph Metcalfe 10.3ew
    3 Jesse Owens 10.3ew
    4 George Anderson 10.4ew
    5 Foy Draper
    6 Milton Holt
    Heat 2: Pea 10.2w.
    1934
    F: 100 meters; S/F: 6/6; D: 30 JUN
    1 Ralph Metcalfe 10.4 MR
    2 Jesse Owens 10.4e
    3 Eulace Pea
    4 Charles Parsons
    5 Louis Salvato
    6 Ralph Sickel
    1933
    F: 100 meters; S/F: 7/7; D: 30 JUN
    1 Ralph Metcalfe 10.5 MR
    2 James Johnson
    3 Jesse Owens
    4 Paul Starr
    5 Hudson mich
    6 Don Bennett
    Pea pulled a muscle in 1936, if he'd ran in Berlin, hmmmmm?


    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/07/sp...sse-owens.html

    When a sprinter runs both the 100 and 200 ya can tell a lot about him by his 200 times. Bolt was amazing at 200m running a stunning WR.....19.19, Owens never broke 20.7, that is a mile in a 200m.

    Works like this....

    100m PR 9.58 times two...19.16

    100m PR 10.2 times two....20.4
    Last edited by Avante; 02-08-2018 at 09:26 PM.

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    The thing with Owens is the story. The black boy from Alabama in Hitlers Germany, beating up on his Supermen. In reality Owens was a far better long jumper than he was a sprinter, he lost a lot in the sprints. Four times he ran in our USA Nationals in the 100m, he only won once.

    Maquettes Ralph Metcalfe and Temples Eulace Pea beat Owens a ton of times in the 100. Pea once beat Owens five races in a row.

    Owens ran a 10.2 on bad dirt tracks, he also ran a 9.4 for yards. Bob Hayes also ran on dirt tracks in the 60's, he ran a 10.06/9.1. With his 5-11 190 pounds he is the guy who would be able to compete today, not Jesse Owens. Ah....other than the long jump.

    I could see Owens running a 10.05ish with todays training, ete etc etc. Nothing remotely close to a 9.60, which is where Bolt lived.

    As you can see he was not dominate.

    USA Nationals

    1936
    F: 100 meters; S/F: 6/6; D: 04 JUL
    1 Jesse Owens 10.4 =MR
    2 Ralph Metcalfe 10.6e
    3 Samuel Stoller
    4 Foy Draper
    5 Marty Glickman
    6 Ben Johnson
    1935
    F: 100 meters; S/F: 6/6; D: 04 JUL; W: +7.8 mph
    1 Eulace Pea 10.2w
    2 Ralph Metcalfe 10.3ew
    3 Jesse Owens 10.3ew
    4 George Anderson 10.4ew
    5 Foy Draper
    6 Milton Holt
    Heat 2: Pea 10.2w.
    1934
    F: 100 meters; S/F: 6/6; D: 30 JUN
    1 Ralph Metcalfe 10.4 MR
    2 Jesse Owens 10.4e
    3 Eulace Pea
    4 Charles Parsons
    5 Louis Salvato
    6 Ralph Sickel
    1933
    F: 100 meters; S/F: 7/7; D: 30 JUN
    1 Ralph Metcalfe 10.5 MR
    2 James Johnson
    3 Jesse Owens
    4 Paul Starr
    5 Hudson mich
    6 Don Bennett
    Pea pulled a muscle in 1936, if he'd ran in Berlin, hmmmmm?


    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/07/sp...sse-owens.html

    When a sprinter runs both the 100 and 200 ya can tell a lot about him by his 200 times. Bolt was amazing at 200m running a stunning WR.....19.19, Owens never broke 20.7, that is a mile in a 200m.

    Works like this....

    100m PR 9.58 times two...19.16

    100m PR 10.2 times two....20.4
    Suppose we'll never know for sure, the article I read said the modern track as opposed to the ash track and the block could have gotten him under 10 because Owens wasted a lot of energy with the track of the day.

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    Why were they zeroing in on Jesse Owens? Like I mentioned he wasn't really all that in 100m.

    Keep in mind we had few black sprinters in his day, and the few we did see beat Owens. With electro timing Owens was running around 10.45ish, that's a long long way from 9.99. And his 200m was weak.

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    Why were they zeroing on on Jesse Owens? Likre I mentioned he wasn't really all that in 100m.

    Keep in mind we had few black sprinters in his day, and the few we did see beat Owens. With electro timing Owens was running around 10.45ish, that's a long long way from 9.99. And his 200m was weak.
    Probably because of his fame, they were more focused on how the evolution of the track has benefited athletes.

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    Probably because of his fame, they were more focused on how the evolution of the track has benefited athletes.
    I see.

    Well if Owens did run today he'd be running into his early 30's, he was just a kid in his day, So at 28ish with a nice plus 1.8 wind, on that Eugene track, maybe a 9.99 would be possible. But....he was never going to challenge Bolt under any cir stances.

    Bolt started out as a 400/200 cat, so he spent years building his speed endurance. Now add that 6-5 stride, a deadly combo at 100m.

    Look a his head, yep, smooth.




    Imagine looking over at old Adolph with a....."we got another one back home in Alabama faster than he is"

    Jackie Robinson ( the baseball legend) older brother Mack won the silver behind Owens in the 200m.
    Last edited by Avante; 02-08-2018 at 10:36 PM.

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    Later today sprinter Christian Coleman MIGHT break the indoor 60WR at our USA Champs. He did run a 6.37 which is faster than the 6.39WR (Mo Greene) but ....something about something disallowed it.

    Coleman was at Tennessee (NCAA Champion) last season when he twice beat the great Usain Bolt in the 100m.

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    Yep, new WR.....6.34. And this is the guy who ran a 4.12 40 for that record, and he is an x footballer.

    So which of our experts can fill in the lanes for the All Time Tennessee 100m?

    lane

    1.Former NCAA champion
    2.World class hurdler, NFLer
    3.Olympic 100m champ
    4.NCAA 100m record holder
    5.Olympic 100m silver medalist
    6.Held the 9.9 WR
    7.Big white guy
    8.Had a look from the Steelers, nope~~~

    Have our experts ever answered a trivia question, yep.......nope~~~~
    Last edited by Avante; 02-19-2018 at 05:22 AM.

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    Ever notice no matter what questions I ask nobody can ever answer them despite....GOOGLE....?

    Ok, it went like this....

    lane

    1.Terry Scott
    2.Willie Gault
    3.Justin Gatlin
    4.Christian Coleman
    5.Sam Graddy
    6.Reggie Jones
    7.Jeff Phillips
    8.Leonard Scott

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    More lies.

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    Dude, why not actually.....prove....a lie, ok stupid? Go ahead do something other than show us how dumb ya are, ok?

    So none of those sprinters were who I said they were?

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    Dude, why not actually.....prove....a lie, ok stupid? Go ahead do something other than show us how dumb ya are, ok?

    So none of those sprinters were who I said they were?
    Lies.

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    What's always funny with this freak is he's too damn stupid to see the troll.

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    Would ya believe some years ago some loggers way back in the mountains in Oregon caught a young big foot? They named ..it...Jocko. They but Jocko in some kind of cage, yep, it escaped.

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