Spurs 2018 offseason thread

[marinoman]

Pau + patty + a first for 1 year butler and some garbage player to make the numbers work.

[Chinook]

Stop trying to add Mills to these deals. He's unnecessary to make the numbers work and is huge negative value in a deal like this.

[cd021]

I'm assuming that Butler would stay and part of him getting him to do that is keeping Gasol. Bertans can't be moved until 12/15 anyways.

That assume that Gasol and Butler are cool like that. Gasol makes more sense as trade salary, assuming they don't want long term money such as Mills.

[SAGirl]

I do prefer Butler to Demar tbh... I am not a Derozan fan. Maybe he wins me over but I would not mind him getting flipped.

[bklynspursfan]

I do prefer Butler to Demar tbh... I am not a Derozan fan. Maybe he wins me over but I would not mind him getting flipped.

Butler seems like he brings drama to teams. DeRozan as far as culture goes is a much better fit. Player wise I see the argument for sure.

I'm excited for DD, he seems motivated, and I'm looking forward to seeing what the coaching staff can do for his development.

[bklynspursfan]

15th

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...s-all-30-teams

[dbestpro]

Moving towards the deadline I'd do Mills/Bertans and both picks for Butler and Bates-Diop.

This.

[iGetbuckets]

15th

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...s-all-30-teams

Teams like Washington ahead of us

[bklynspursfan]

[bklynspursfan]

[John B]

I still can’t believe it

[pad300]

Nah, every single one of those except for two are horribly overrated. Take Booker as an example. Empty stats out the wazoo. Cousins is the same. Lots of stats, no idea how to win basketball games. These are all five star guys Calipari took and failed to teach anything about the game of basketball to. Look at Rose. Supreme talent, just junk upstairs. No idea how to play once his athleticism went away. The only two I value much at all are Davis and Wall. Randle has surprised me. The rest I wouldn't bother with.

Add Tyreke Evans to that list, it took a while, but he has become a good player (not a great, but good).

[pad300]

More realistic deals:

Pau + Lonnie + Spurs 2019 1st + TO 2019 1st for Butler + Keita Bates Diop

or

Pau + Spurs 2019 1st + TO 2019 1st for Butler

[Fusternino]

More realistic deals:

Pau + Lonnie + Spurs 2019 1st + TO 2019 1st for Butler + Keita Bates Diop

or

Pau + Spurs 2019 1st + TO 2019 1st for Butler

I think if Wolves move him at the deadline then my deal works. They need to do a trade because even if he walks they're way over the cap.

[ace3g]

[BackHome]

Butler is overrated

[Duncan87]

https://youtu.be/IlyYZ-QBzBc. Barkley says Spurs 3rd best in West

[YGWHI]

WTF?

[r0drig0lac]

WTF?

Morey

[skookumchuck]

Morey

Melo a Timberwolf?

[gospursgojas]

I do prefer Butler to Demar tbh... I am not a Derozan fan. Maybe he wins me over but I would not mind him getting flipped.

The overrated-ness of Butler is insane. Demar is easily a better player. It’s not even close. What started as a “wow this guy is pretty good for someone who fell all the way to 30th in draft” has now become “let’s mortgage future for him”.

He’s not that great. Def not better than Demar and that’s not even taking into consideration how much better a teammate and culture guy Demar is.

[skookumchuck]

Def not better than Demar and that’s not even taking into consideration how much better a teammate and culture guy Demar is.

This times a hundred. Butler has a feel of a taller IT tbh.

[KDKSpurs24]

The overrated-ness of Butler is insane. Demar is easily a better player. It’s not even close. What started as a “wow this guy is pretty good for someone who fell all the way to 30th in draft” has now become “let’s mortgage future for him”.

He’s not that great. Def not better than Demar and that’s not even taking into consideration how much better a teammate and culture guy Demar is.

I completely agree. And I’m not even saying this because DeMar is a Spur now. Defense is pretty much the only thing he has a clear edge on. And I expect DeMar to make a leap (not sure how big or small) in that area. We saw Kyrie get to Boston and improve his defense. Boston had a lot of utility to help him out but I still see the system helping DeMar as well.

[RD2191]

The overrated-ness of Butler is insane. Demar is easily a better player. It’s not even close. What started as a “wow this guy is pretty good for someone who fell all the way to 30th in draft” has now become “let’s mortgage future for him”.

He’s not that great. Def not better than Demar and that’s not even taking into consideration how much better a teammate and culture guy Demar is.

Spurs have no future lol

[SAGirl]

People with the hot takes left and right here.

No matter bc Spurs aren’t trading for Jimmy.

They gave up a lot for Derozan and my trade is not just hypothetical but more than that a general dislike for DeMar, whose game has never impressed me.