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I guess more CO2 beats more rich muslims, right John Wayne?
I can plug it in at my house and now the energy to run my car can come from coal instead of gasoline!
I guess more CO2 beats more rich muslims, right John Wayne?
Look at it this way. If we actually cause global warming as hot as it already is there, those ers in the middle east will cook before we do.
It should be cheaper, I would think. Electric engines are more efficient, so I've heard.
Doesn't it cost around 45K?
A little pricey for an electric Cavalier.
I realize that the Volt cant hall horses & boats but I think it will be a success in Los Angeles…GM’s decision to crush the "EV1" is right up there with the removal of the "redline" to us LA conspiracy folks…There are 1000’s of people out here who want an all electric vehicle…I hope GM sells a bunch of them....
I guess 45K isn't that much, if it soothes your envrio-hypochondria.
Yeah, base is $41,000. If they could have kept it under $10K Obama could have followed Hitlers model and called it the Voltswagen.
Looks like there is some interest..
AutonewsGM said today that buyer interest in the new Chevrolet Volt has prompted the automaker to boost 2012 production plans for the plug-in hybrid to 45,000 units from 30,000.
GM announced the 50 percent production increase as President Barack Obama toured the Detroit-Hamtramck plant today where the Volt is being made. It goes on sale later this year.
“We are very proud to host the president of the United States where the future of the American auto industry is being built today,” said GM CEO Edward Whitacre Jr.
After consultations with the Secret Service and his press secretary, Robert Gibbs, Obama stepped into a black Volt, buckled himself in and haltingly drove perhaps 10 feet at a crawling speed, according to pool reporters with the president.
"Pretty smooth," Obama concluded.
After consultations with the Secret Service and his press secretary, Robert Gibbs, Obama stepped into a black Volt, buckled himself in and haltingly drove perhaps 10 feet at a crawling speed, according to pool reporters with the president.
"Pretty smooth," Obama concluded.
Darrin-I am just saying…There are lots of greenies out here who don’t care if it is 45k…Did you watch the Academy awards show last year? ½ of the Academy members showed up in a Prius…Everyone of them had an Obama sticker…The uber cool crowd had save the whales & fur is murder stickers as well….
Also…I don’t know if it is current but there was a 7k tax credit to purchase the Volt…Is this a great country or what?
$7500
And for the Nissan Leaf, too. The Nissan lists $10,000 less than the Chevy.
Way more efficient... in the vicinity of 80+% IIRC.
Combustion on the other hand is around 50%...
The challenge with electric is in the batteries. Both on overall charge, charge time, and longevity...
That was the same Prius with the same Obama sticker just circling the block. They were parking their Maybachs and Escalades behind the building.Did you watch the Academy awards show last year? ½ of the Academy members showed up in a Prius…Everyone of them had an Obama sticker…
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If you include the rebate, it's only 33k or so!
is that for real, or a joke?If you include the rebate, it's only 33k or so!
I tell you, if there's one place this country could use a revolutionary idea, it's for a new battery. Our server floors have monstrous batteries wired up in series, and it's only to give servers time to shut down softly. A new battery would impact countless fields. That's my big "I wish" invention for this next decade.
The fact is real, the delivery is a joke.
yeah, I just googled it... sheesh a $41,000 small car. forget it.
OK, it all starts in Wyoming. Huge Diesel guzzling cranes and trucks mine the coal.
On to Texas in Diesel powered trains
Then burned at Braunig and Calaveras
Converted to electricity at 50% efficiency (optimistically)
Now, plug in your Volt and drive it 40 miles (losing another 20% efficiency in the process) till the batteries run out and the gasoline powered engine kicks in and pat yourself on the back for being "GREEN" and saving the earth!
Last edited by CosmicCowboy; 07-30-2010 at 03:41 PM.
To be fair CC, most of the people looking to get this car probably aren't driving more than 40 miles a day.
ALso, are you arguing that coal is more efficient than electricity?
No one's saying it's going to be green as, say, bicycling to work. But it is slightly greener than a normal car.
I'm saying we get a lot of our electricity here by burning coal.
That electricity coming out of your wall plug isn't "clean" to start with.
Is anyone arguing that?
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