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    NostraSpurMus phxspurfan's Avatar
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    "And 1!" ...or "aaargh!"

    Every time someone shoots in the NBA.

    Pretty annoying after awhile tbh

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    "And 1!" ...or "aaargh!"

    Every time someone shoots in the NBA.

    Pretty annoying after awhile tbh
    Couldn't stand whenever David West constantly did it.

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    NostraSpurMus phxspurfan's Avatar
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    Gasol and Kobe practically invented it

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    Gasol and Kobe practically invented it
    It was more like : "hoheyheywawei ! "

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    You have no idea UZER's Avatar
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    Draymond yells that all the time.

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    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    How about every big with any skill being a unicorn?
    Porzingis - Ralph Sampson
    Greek Freak - David Robinson
    Anthony Davis - broke mans Duncan
    Boogie - Ewing
    Jokic - sabonis

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    How about every big with any skill being a unicorn?
    Porzingis - Ralph Sampson
    Greek Freak - David Robinson
    Anthony Davis - broke mans Duncan
    Boogie - Ewing
    Jokic - sabonis
    None of them shot threes, though. Even Sabonis' range extended only to around 19-20 feet and only took a three if at the end of the shot clock.

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    lol jokic is like 6'10 250 while sabonis was closer to 7'4 290.

    you cant just ignore 5-6 inches, 40 pounds. thats what made sabonis special

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    NostraSpurMus phxspurfan's Avatar
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    lol jokic is like 6'10 250 while sabonis was closer to 7'4 290.

    you cant just ignore 5-6 inches, 40 pounds. thats what made sabonis special
    That's what's ignored nowadays. Back in the 90s (80s too?) the best centers were real 7 footers (7'1"-7'4"). Now the best centers are like midgets by comparison at 6'8" (Draymond) - 6'10" (AD). The only guy who is great at center stuff + shooting 3s AND super tall is Porzingod at 7'4" or whatever he is. That used to be the PF spot.

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    yeah, i mean embiid looks WAY bigger than most centers right now, but he's 7'0 260.

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    Players don’t foul anymore.

    A guy can clearly deliver a hard foul, put a guy down to the floor, guy can be bleeding from the nose and mouth, laying unconscious, and the guy who “didn’t” commit the foul will still put his hands up, have a shocked look on his face, and still scream at and ask the refs what he did wrong.

    There are are quite a few guys in the league who will argue a call no matter what. When they argue obvious foul calls, it’s pretty absurd. Those Golden State es are known for it. Draymond still hasn’t committed a foul his entire NBA career, go ahead, ask him.

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    Players don’t foul anymore.

    A guy can clearly deliver a hard foul, put a guy down to the floor, guy can be bleeding from the nose and mouth, laying unconscious, and the guy who “didn’t” commit the foul will still put his hands up, have a shocked look on his face, and still scream at and ask the refs what he did wrong.

    There are are quite a few guys in the league who will argue a call no matter what. When they argue obvious foul calls, it’s pretty absurd. Those Golden State es are known for it. Draymond still hasn’t committed a foul his entire NBA career, go ahead, ask him.
    I believe it's strategic in sense that these guys know if they and yell at the refs enough times that the refs will eventually stop calling fouls against them or call the fouls in their favor just to stop them from yelling at them. Unfortunately from what I have seen in it does work.

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    None of them shot threes, though. Even Sabonis' range extended only to around 19-20 feet and only took a three if at the end of the shot clock.
    That’s the problem players are shooting threes because of the times and the eRa and they play and not because of skill

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    That’s the problem players are shooting threes because of the times and the eRa and they play and not because of skill
    The problem with analytics is, while yes three is better than two, even a wide open three isn't better than a layup, even when adjusted for the reward being multiplied by a scale factor of 1.5.

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    NostraSpurMus phxspurfan's Avatar
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    The problem with analytics is, while yes three is better than two, even a wide open three isn't better than a layup, even when adjusted for the reward being multiplied by a scale factor of 1.5.
    NBA is also a product, and fans like to see exciting long range bombing from wayyyy downtown, not layups like they're watching the LA Sparks. Just ask the Suns owner who has sworn by this brand of ball for 20+ years. It puts butts in seats

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    NostraSpurMus phxspurfan's Avatar
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    I believe it's strategic in sense that these guys know if they and yell at the refs enough times that the refs will eventually stop calling fouls against them or call the fouls in their favor just to stop them from yelling at them. Unfortunately from what I have seen in it does work.
    Yup, and also strategic is guys like Kobe/Gasol screaming every time they put the ball up. Sometimes they'll get the call when there was no foul, and that's what makes it worth it. It's just not aesthetically pleasing as a fan. Kawhi even did it a ton last year and I noticed it/found it pretty annoying

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    non-essential Chris's Avatar
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    today's NBA

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    Players don’t foul anymore.

    A guy can clearly deliver a hard foul, put a guy down to the floor, guy can be bleeding from the nose and mouth, laying unconscious, and the guy who “didn’t” commit the foul will still put his hands up, have a shocked look on his face, and still scream at and ask the refs what he did wrong.

    There are are quite a few guys in the league who will argue a call no matter what. When they argue obvious foul calls, it’s pretty absurd. Those Golden State es are known for it. Draymond still hasn’t committed a foul his entire NBA career, go ahead, ask him.
    +1

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    Millennial Messiah UNT Eagles 2016's Avatar
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    NBA is also a product, and fans like to see exciting long range bombing from wayyyy downtown, not layups like they're watching the LA Sparks. Just ask the Suns owner who has sworn by this brand of ball for 20+ years. It puts butts in seats
    as a longtime fan, and a fan back in the early post Jordan era where there was a lot more defense and less chucking.... threes are like alcohol, too much can be too much honestly.

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    as a longtime fan, and a fan back in the early post Jordan era where there was a lot more defense and less chucking.... threes are like alcohol, too much can be too much honestly.
    Did you really just claim there was less chucking in the early post-MJ era?

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    Did you really just claim there was less chucking in the early post-MJ era?
    He meant 3 pt chucking

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    Did you really just claim there was less chucking in the early post-MJ era?
    2016-2017: 85.4 fga/team/game. 45.7% shooting
    1990-1991: 87.2fga/team/game. 47.4% shooting.

    Less missed shots. Less chucking.

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    "And 1!" ...or "aaargh!"

    Every time someone shoots in the NBA.

    Pretty annoying after awhile tbh
    How about flashing three fingers to the side after every made three?

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    Players don’t foul anymore.

    A guy can clearly deliver a hard foul, put a guy down to the floor, guy can be bleeding from the nose and mouth, laying unconscious, and the guy who “didn’t” commit the foul will still put his hands up, have a shocked look on his face, and still scream at and ask the refs what he did wrong.

    There are are quite a few guys in the league who will argue a call no matter what. When they argue obvious foul calls, it’s pretty absurd. Those Golden State es are known for it. Draymond still hasn’t committed a foul his entire NBA career, go ahead, ask him.
    Refs at Silverstein's direction have been told to be the players' friends rather than the officials who are supposed to T 'em up and basically tell them to shut up and play ball.

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    Board Man Comes Home Clipper Nation's Avatar
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    2016-2017: 85.4 fga/team/game. 45.7% shooting
    1990-1991: 87.2fga/team/game. 47.4% shooting.

    Less missed shots. Less chucking.
    1990-1991 is not the early post-MJ era.

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