Calls For FBI Director To Resign After School Shootings?

[Spurtacular]

In order to show incompetence, you'd have to show that the local field office didn't meet a standard. What's the standard? What was the FBI supposed to do preemptively?

That debate would only be a matter if the local office had even received the tip.

[Spurtacular]

I asked you point blank whether you are saying Wray is responsible for the deaths in Parkland.

You did not answer.

That means you are not saying he is responsible for the deaths in Parkland.

If you want to say he is responsible for the deaths in Parkland, step up and say Wray is responsible for the deaths in Parkland.

So, you made up your own reality / false narrative and proceeded with your process as if it was truth.

Lawyered.

[DMC]

That debate would only be a matter if the local office had even received the tip.

Who received the tip?

Is a "tip" probable cause?

Reports on individuals not currently wanted or under investigation aren't tips, they are just reports.

Should someone be under investigation because they own firearms and have talked about killing people?

If so, should the FBI be the ones investigating?

This crosses into a grey/dangerous area where personal freedom and due process exist. Even now, you can get a TRO on someone and they'll have to surrender their firearms. The conservatives would never want that and they wouldn't finger point at the FBI for not doing anything if the POTUS wasn't under FBI investigation.

This seems crystal clear.

Priorities are getting mixed here. There's no clear message in these discussions. You're either pro BoR or you aren't. If you are, what law did the shooter break before going on his killing spree? If you want the FBI to investigate everyone who's reported to them, get ready for an Orwellian state. If you don't want that, don't start down that path for the sake of political talking points.

[Pavlov]

So, you made up your own reality / false narrative and proceeded with your process as if it was truth.

Lawyered.

You are not saying he is responsible for the deaths in Parkland.

[Blake]

He oversaw an incompetent system that led to 17 dead person as I said. That's okay by you though.

"but where did I say he's responsible"

[Pavlov]

"but where did I say he's responsible"

If OP doesn't even say Wray is responsible, there is no reason for Wray to resign.

[DMX7]

If the FBI had tried to take his guns I bet the NRA and gun rights crowd would have been furious. He had no criminal record and all the FBI probably could have done is interview him and little more. We need better gun laws and a better system of enforcing those laws, not for the FBI to have to keep tabs on every psychopath kid in America.

[Blake]

This thread has only gotten this far because of a re ed op

[Splits]

Jimmer McDerpDerp making a strong case to take back stupidest ST poster from Chris

[Spurtacular]

If OP doesn't even say Wray is responsible, there is no reason for Wray to resign.

Damn, you suck at deciphering context.

What specifically did Wray do or not do in this case?

Explain.

He oversaw a dysfunctional system that led to the death of a dozen or so minors. I guess that's not enough for you.

[pgardn]

Damn, you suck at deciphering context.

Well of course Wray has had plenty of time. I mean Donald keeps only the best, so they get time and get right down to business... and oh . Our president takes pleasure in hiring and firing the best. So of course only the best and brightest want these jobs... and oh sit... Hard time findin a suitable candidate? He's never tried a case and you put him up for judge... and oh ...

I think there is a pattern here. Rence Priebus, paging Rence Priebus. Steve Babbon? Corey Lweondfuski... Ahh, Donald's trophy wife still loves him.... and oh ... What, a 4th or 5th marriage. Will Trump actually die first?

Jeff Sessions? Are you there? Yes. You are what? Too short? well oh ...

[Pavlov]

Damn, you suck at deciphering context.

Why don't you just say you think Wray is responsible for the deaths?

What are you afraid of?

[Spurtacular]

Why don't you just say you think Wray is responsible for the deaths?

What are you afraid of?

Wray oversaw a dysfunctional system that led to the death of a dozen or so minors.

[Pavlov]

Wray oversaw a dysfunctional system that led to the death of a dozen or so minors.

Are you saying he's responsible for the deaths at Parkland?

Yes or no.

[Spurtacular]

What are you afraid of?

Why aren't you making a thread on the sheriff's role in this event?

What are you afraid of?

[Spurtacular]

Are you saying he's responsible for the deaths at Parkland?

Yes or no.

Wray oversaw a dysfunctional system that led to the death of a dozen or so minors.

[Pavlov]

Why aren't you making a thread on the sheriff's role in this event?

What are you afraid of?

I've already brought it up here and it has been brought up in the my original thread.

Wray oversaw a dysfunctional system that led to the death of a dozen or so minors.

So you're not saying he's responsible for the deaths at Parkland.

OK.

[Spurtacular]

I've already brought it up here and it has been brought up in the my original thread.

So, it's nothing you care too much about beyond being a prop.

[Pavlov]

So, it's nothing you care too much about beyond being a prop.

It's been discussed already in two threads by multiple posters. I don't see the reason for starting a redundant thread.

You're really quite stupid.

And butthurt.

[Spurtacular]

It's been discussed already in two threads by multiple posters. I don't see the reason for starting a redundant thread.

You're really quite stupid.

And butthurt.

It was discussed ever so much; yet you still needed to use it as a deflection.

[Pavlov]

It was discussed ever so much; yet you still needed to use it as a deflection.

The existence of the twenty (20) calls is merely an additional fact that should be considered in any discussion of responsibility or what could have been done, as is the FDCF investigation. Facts like these routinely confuse and infuriate you for some reason; maybe you need to explore the reasons why for your own sake. After all, twenty (20) is a much larger number than one (1).

You agree with that fact, don't you?

20 > 1?

Yes or no.

[Spurtacular]

The existence of the twenty (20) calls is merely an additional fact that should be considered in any discussion of responsibility or what could have been done, as is the FDCF investigation. Facts like these routinely confuse and infuriate you for some reason; maybe you need to explore the reasons why for your own sake. After all, twenty (20) is a much larger number than one (1).

You agree with that fact, don't you?

20 > 1?

Yes or no.

I think logic fails you as usual. The twenty calls has nothing to do with the FBI not doing their job.

[Pavlov]

I think logic fails you as usual. The twenty calls has nothing to do with the FBI not doing their job.

We're just talking the most basic facts here.

Is 20 > 1?

Yes or no.

[Spurtacular]

We're just talking the most basic facts here.

Is 20 > 1?

Yes or no.

You can call it "basic facts" all day long. It has nothing to do with the topic of the FBI not doing their job. I could've sworn I just explained this. Silly me.

[Pavlov]

You can call it "basic facts" all day long. It has nothing to do with the topic of the FBI not doing their job. I could've sworn I just explained this. Silly me.

The topic is responsibility and what could or should have been done. You want to artificially limit that discussion to one man and tried to put on your big boy forum cop hat to do so.

I just want to know if we can agree on one simple fact. I believe whether you can is quite telling:

Is 20 > 1?

Yes or no.