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    No Sherlock i just think it’s funny how you are ok with us doing it but get all hypocritical vice versa. And you have so much unwarranted faith in our media complex.
    Its pretty sad actually. And many millions of americans are the same. They still believe cnn, wapo, etc are legit news organizations

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    Whoa!

    The US has intervened with foreign countries?!?!

    True if huge
    True

    And we the first ones to and moan about it when its done to us

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    True

    And we the first ones to and moan about it when its done to us
    No historical context whatsoever.
    Of course we have done this.
    WE have books written about it bozo, WE write them.

    Where is the Russian press on this one?
    What does RT news got for you?

    And this is part of the point. It is illegal for foreign or US citizens to take cash from a dictator in Russia who plans not only attempting to ruin free and fair elections, but also authorizes screwing around with the finances of private companies and government agencies. You get payed by Putin the thug, you go to jail if we can get you.

    We have probably reciprocated in some way Putin knows about and we will read about at some future date. Because we have a real press.

    We are the first to and moan? You are a fool. What just happened with Putin complaining when his Ukranian puppet was overthrown?

    You wanna bot post and paste?
    Let us dance.

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    Its pretty sad actually. And many millions of americans are the same. They still believe cnn, wapo, etc are legit news organizations
    What do you read?

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    About the OP, the US has always intervened, tbh... not always with success. The thing is, that always came with being a superpower and world police.

    The issue is now Russia allegedly swinging their in front of the superpower, that probably has warhawks seething.
    OP and others don't even believe the Russians unleashed their Johnson.

    The real contentious part here is Trump conservatives think it delegitimizes their big victory. The liberals think it changed the results. I personally think it did neither. But, the Russians actually organizing Trump rallies... We need to know the extent of interference and reciprocate IMO.

    And we can also get some laughs as some of the interefernce was incredibly clumsy:

    In a Florida rally

    Florida is still a purple state and we need to appoint it red


    The Trump campaign manager found the above somewhat strange. But the money was good so onward through the fog.

    Other gems like the above to follow. Mueller is gonna let more of this flow. He has a sense of humor.

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    True

    And we the first ones to and moan about it when its done to us
    Honestly, Putin was just retaliating because Hillary ed with his elections. Putin is a dictator with sham elections so it was stupid and pointless to try and alter them anyway

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    I still don't understand this line of reasoning. It's like saying we shouldn't be pissed about Zaza Pachulia ing up Kawhi because Bruce Bowen used to be on our roster. You still have to play defense.

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    Hater wants to play copy-paste.

    We can play.
    You don't like that? I can expect you to be calling out RandomGuy in his future OP's then. Thank you.

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    You don't like that? I can expect you to be calling out RandomGuy in his future OP's then. Thank you.
    Still butthurt about that?

    lol

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    When the empire is too busy waging wars and supporting terrorists, these things will happen.

    Its ok for empire to be seething but to publicly cry about it everyday is kinda embarrasing. Methinks they are doing it more as a political stunt to disparrage Trump whom they obviously despise and use it as excuse to keep their warmachine going.

    Its getting pathetic
    It doesn't help Trump constantly embarrasses himself, tbh, plus he's clearly a puppet when it comes to geopolitics and warfare... not unlike most of his predecessors...

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    “When I was in CIA in the 70s and 80s in Europe, I would say that the CIA and the US government basically were interfering in elections — almost every election that was taking place in Europe. There were legitimate concerns about communists getting in government in places like Italy and France, in Spain and Portugal. But other than that, this was just routine that the US wanted a friendly government of a certain type, and was willing to do certain things to enable that to happen,” he noted.

    If we are going to claim that America has the right to interfere behind the scenes in the politics of another country, it is a little hypocritical for America to say ‘Russian intelligence has been interfering in American elections.’ You don’t get to have it both ways: Either no one should be doing this, or you accept that that’s what goes on in the world. — Gene Coyle, CIA veteran and Russia specialist.

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    It doesn't help Trump constantly embarrasses himself, tbh, plus he's clearly a puppet when it comes to geopolitics and warfare... not unlike most of his predecessors...
    Puppet of whom?

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    I still don't understand this line of reasoning. It's like saying we shouldn't be pissed about Zaza Pachulia ing up Kawhi because Bruce Bowen used to be on our roster. You still have to play defense.
    ing and moaning and threatening nuclear war because of it is not being pissed.

    Its being a hypocryticql qbout it

    Its like if RC had sued the Warriors and Pop indicted Zaza

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    “When I was in CIA in the 70s and 80s in Europe, I would say that the CIA and the US government basically were interfering in elections — almost every election that was taking place in Europe. There were legitimate concerns about communists getting in government in places like Italy and France, in Spain and Portugal. But other than that, this was just routine that the US wanted a friendly government of a certain type, and was willing to do certain things to enable that to happen,” he noted.

    If we are going to claim that America has the right to interfere behind the scenes in the politics of another country, it is a little hypocritical for America to say ‘Russian intelligence has been interfering in American elections.’ You don’t get to have it both ways: Either no one should be doing this, or you accept that that’s what goes on in the world. — Gene Coyle, CIA veteran and Russia specialist.
    Hater sees I'm present and posts this for th 40th time

    No historical context whatsoever.
    Of course we have tried to manipulate.
    WE have books written about it bozo, WE write them.

    Where is the Russian press on this one?
    What does RT news got for you?

    And this is part of the point. It is illegal for foreign or US citizens to take cash from a dictator in Russia who plans not only attempting to ruin free and fair elections, but also authorizes screwing around with the finances of private companies and government agencies. You get payed by Putin the thug, you go to jail if we can get you.

    We have probably reciprocated in some way Putin knows about and we will read about at some future date. Because we have a real press.

    The Russian people should vote Putin out... Wait a sec.... elections....
    Donald Trump, basically a game show host, gets voted in as president? This could happen in Russia #free elections?
    Nope.

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    And more about Gene Coyle , hater's hero:

    The "reset" campaign was an excellent idea; too bad no one in our Department of State knew how to correctly spell the word in Russian when Secretary Hillary Clinton presented the "button" to the Russian Foreign Minister. However, there is a line between seeking a mutually beneficial relationship and delusional pandering.


    The "reset" button that Trump pushed?
    Delusional pandering? And you can have it both ways, Russia and the US have proven this.
    There ya go, another Hater backfire.
    Hilarity...

    Ask yourself if an exKGB agent would be allowed to become a professor at a major university in Russia and be allowed to criticize Putin? Coyle is ex CIA and is a very valuable person for a free country. Even though, in hindsight, Coyle has gotten things horribly wrong.
    Last edited by pgardn; 02-19-2018 at 10:07 AM.

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    ing and moaning and threatening nuclear war because of it is not being pissed.

    Its being a hypocryticql qbout it

    Its like if RC had sued the Warriors and Pop indicted Zaza
    No one is threatening nuclear war, though. That's like saying Pop tried to murder Steve Kerr and his family when he criticized Pachulia last year.

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    No one is threatening nuclear war, though. That's like saying Pop tried to murder Steve Kerr and his family when he criticized Pachulia last year.
    Oh yeah we are. Sqntions after sanctions. Going after kremlin guys. NATO drills in black sea and our new “nuclear doctrine” where we say we can nuke someone after a cyberattack

    Damn yes we are threatening war

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    Still butthurt about that?

    lol
    I find his schtick in that regard positively bizarre. It's like he thinks that it is some sort of sick burn in his head, like calling someone "applehead" or something that no one else finds meaningful.

    It really is weird.

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    Oh yeah we are. Sqntions after sanctions. Going after kremlin guys. NATO drills in black sea and our new “nuclear doctrine” where we say we can nuke someone after a cyberattack

    Damn yes we are threatening war
    I have been hoping the next time one of their jets buzz our ships, we blow it out of the sky.

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    I have been hoping the next time one of their jets buzz our ships, we blow it out of the sky.
    Neocon.

    #StillWithHer

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    I have been hoping the next time one of their jets buzz our ships, we blow it out of the sky.
    Yeah ure a neocon. Of course youd hope that

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