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Well, the SCOTUS already made clear the 2nd Amendment, much like the other amendments, are not beyond regulation, as long as it's 'reasonable'...
Fun thing about this is that the 2nd amendment doesn't really say what the NRA and the people who seem to worship guns with cult-like devotion, think it does.
"A well regulated militia".
You can't really be an originalist and support the gun manufacturing lobby's interpretation of the law.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics...chael-waldman/
The founders did not mean for the 2nd to be an unrestricted right to own guns. They just... didnt'.
Well, the SCOTUS already made clear the 2nd Amendment, much like the other amendments, are not beyond regulation, as long as it's 'reasonable'...
I read that just didn't focus in on it too much and focused on your general statement about hobbies. My bad.
The health benefits don't need to out weight the risk. The health benefits are merely a small factor and not that relevant to why guns should be legal. It's only a small factor and I'm fine basing it off of common sense. It's especially worth considering.
So like the health benefits of using alcohol.
Deaths from alcohol related accidents also cut lives short by decades, and effect people who aren't using the product. Which is what I've mention. Alcohol also plays a part in 1/3 acts of violent crime.
Nobody thinks your comment that guns have health benefits is relevant.
It's re ed. So is this thread.
It's relevant to the discussion. You can debate if it's true or not. Your one line takes serve no purpose.
This thread serves no purpose. It's stupid. I'm just here to lol at it and you.
Not really, and there is more than enough room for that to be revisited.
no, no, dmc assured me that liberals are too pussy to say banning all guns is the only solution
"deaths from alcohol related accidents"
SB:
"deaths from alcohol related vehicle accidents"
Again, not a valid comparison. If you want to make that argument, you should be arguing against personal vehicles as a whole, not just alcohol related ones. The line of logical reasoning should consider all vehicle deaths, not just alcohol related ones.
"alcohol contributes to violent crime, so let's talk about that instead of guns"You may not want to introduce that line of evidence councilor. I'll go there if you want.
Personally, I would be for getting rid of cars in general too, on the basis of the deaths caused.
I think people should have a privilege to own a gun, just like they have a privilege to drive.
I am all for repealing and replacing the 2nd amendment to make that more clear.
Relying on guns as some sort of backstop against tyranny is for lazy s who find it too hard to be informed, active voters.
That one isn't happening in the next 50+ years... probably easier to turn you into a conservative, tbh...
So, instead of aiming for the impossible, how about working towards reachable goals? As it's been said, it doesn't have to be all or nothing, there are, legally, many in-between avenues... you know, like the recent ban on bump stocks.
LOL, yeah, because that worked out so well for us in '16.
"the recent ban on bump stocks."
which ban is total bull .
People will be 3D printing them rather than buying them.
and by the time they're banned, everybody who would want one will have bought one
Certain people opt to be criminals all the time, tbh... that doesn't make proper regulations any less useful or useless... then it becomes an enforcement problem.
The irony is that gun control advocates also are likely to be the ones lapping up Hunger Games, Avatar, 1984, etc. type of media.
Totally unrelated yet related story, Local shooting range hasa makeshift bar there. Couple cases of beer in a fridge, put your dollar on top. I've only been there once shooting trap with a buddy that's huge into that. I mentioned to him about not a good idea to mix the two and he just said those old boys will never change. He's coaching a HS team this year there also.
Going to be a different world for some. That's for sure.
Bump stocks are Bubba type attachments. I don't know any of those guys that have a 3d printer............"the recent ban on bump stocks."
People will be 3D printing them rather than buying them.
and by the time they're banned, everybody who would want one will have bought one
Lol sure they are.
I'm guessing you don't have a link
You're going to need a link to prove that those AARP, NRA white rural shooters are reading classic novels and are more interested in Hollywood than David Hogg? Really?
No need. We'll just say you're talking out of your ass and leave it there.
I asked you that question, way to deflect. Do you believe the typical NRA member is more likely to read George Orwell and watch those two movies than a gun control advocate?
I don't give a . It's your claim. If you feel like backing it up, good for you. If you don't, then we'll just assume ass talking.
That's how that works.
Too much of a Cuck to doubt the claim but you require a Google look to verify?
Lol your claim sounds like a crock of bull . It stays that way unless you back it up. Again, that's how claims work.
If you don't want to back it up, I'll just assume it's . Either way I really don't give much of a .
So you disagree then? What's your reasoning?
On your topic of guns/alcohol at ranges it is gradually changing. I have done dozens of charity sporting clay shoots over the years and in the past few years its been frowned on to drink before shooting. In the old days it was just assumed there would be an ice chest in the cart.
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