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    Same reason as WMDs false flag

    - distraction from internal problems
    - punish foreign adversaries
    - increased military spending
    - increased police state laws
    false flag of convenience

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    Porton Johnson








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    Boris Johnson does not gather the evidence. He’s a clown. He’s as bad os some of Trumps appointments. Boris Johnson did not convince the US, French, and Germans who did this, British intelligence did.

    Hater can’t separate politics in the UK from what allies have done with the Russians warning their own expatriates to beware, we can still get you.

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    holy Brittish Foreign office caught redhanded trying to cover up their lies

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    They revised a transcript from Brit ambassador deleting critical word:


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    « Operation Hades Blamed Russia - A Model For The 'Novichok' Claims? | Main
    April 04, 2018
    "It's The Cover-Up" - UK Foreign Office Deletes Tweet, Posts False Transcript, Issues New Lies

    It's Not The Crime, It's The Cover-Up:

    When a scandal breaks, the discovery of an attempt to cover up is often regarded as even more reprehensible than the original deeds.
    The British government is trying to cover-up the lies it made with its false allegations against Russia. The cover-up necessitates new lies some of which we expose below.

    Yesterday the head of the British chemical weapon laboratory in Porton Down stated that the laboratory can not establish that the poison used in the alleged 'Novichok' attack in Salisbury was produced by Russia. This was a severe blow to the British government allegations of Russian involvement in the poisoning of Sergej and Yulia Skripal.

    Now the British government tries to hide that it said that the poison used in the Salisbury was 'produced in Russia' and that Porton down had proved that to be the case. The government aligned media are helping to stuff the government lies down the memory hole.

    We all need to make sure that the new lies get exposed and that the attempts to change the record fail.

    Yesterday the British Foreign Office deleted this from its Twitter account:


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    The March 22 tweet was part of a now interrupted thread which summarized a briefing on the UK government's response to the Salisbury incident given by the British Ambassador to Russia, Dr Laurie Bristow, to the international diplomatic community in Moscow.

    After the silent scrubbing of the record was publicly questioned the Foreign Office admitted that it deleted the tweet:

    After it emerged on Wednesday that the tweet had been deleted, the Foreign Office said the post was removed because it "did not accurately report" the words of Laurie Bristow, the UK's ambassador to Russia, which the tweet was supposed to be quoting.
    Hmm - fool me once ...

    All the tweets in the thread used quotation marks, but none was a literal reproduction of the ambassador's briefing. Only one of the tweets was deleted. A look at the transcript and video of the briefing shows that all the tweets, including the deleted one, "accurately reported" the speech. The cover-up of the false statement the ambassador made thus includes at least one new lie.

    The original tweet said "Analysis by world-leading experts at the Defense Science and Technology Laboratory at Porton Down made clear that this was a military-grade Novichok nerve agent produced in Russia. .."

    The transcript of the briefing in Moscow - "exactly as it was delivered" - is (still) available at the Foreign Office website.


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    The ambassador, reading from a prepared script, recapitulates the event and, according to the posted transcript, then says:

    Four days later the analysts at Porton Down, the Defence Science and Technology Laboratory in the UK, established and made clear that this was a military-grade chemical weapon. One of the Novichok series; a nerve agent as I said produced in Russia. Porton Down is an Organisation for Prohibition of Chemical Weapons accredited and designated laboratory.
    ..
    First, there is no doubt that the weapon used in the attack was the military-grade nerve agent from the Novichok series. This has been confirmed by specialists, our specialists. An Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons mission is in the UK now to independently confirm this analysis.
    There is also no doubt that Novichok was produced in Russia by the Russian state.

    The last line in the -"exactly as it was delivered" - transcript is false. Here is my transcription from a short Foreign Office video of the briefing (saved copy) which includes the uncut passage of the last two paragraphs quoted above:

    ... there is no doubt that the weapon used in the attack was the military-grade nerve agent from the Novichok series. This has been confirmed by specialists, our specialists. On Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons mission is in the UK now to independently confirm this analysis.
    There is also no doubt that the Novichok was produced in Russia by the Russian state.

    The written "exactly as it was delivered" transcript of the briefing says "... that Novichok was produced ...". At 0:20 in the video I clearly hear the ambassador saying "... that the Novichok was produced ...". A tiny but very important difference.

    The person who put the official captions on the official Foreign Office video agrees with what I hear and transcribed.



    The ambassador referred to "the Novichok", the Novichok he specifically mentioned earlier in the speech. The Novichok that he said had been detected by Porton Down. The transcript on the Foreign Office website leaves out the definite article "the". It makes it look as if the ambassador referred to some unspecified batch of the substance.

    The deleted tweet was a faithful rendition of what the ambassador said, it "accurately reported" it. The transcript the Foreign office posted on its website is false. The ambassador clearly accused Russia of having produced the very batch that Porton Down analyzed.

    Three days earlier Bristow's boss, Foreign Minister Boris Johnson, made the same false claim (vid at 5:32) in an interview with DW.

    Porton Down has now said that it made no such claim. The ambassador's claim was false. The Foreign Office attempt to cover this up by deleting its tweet and by posting a not-so-exact transcript only amplifies the falsehood of the original claims.

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/04...lies.html#more

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    Brittish forign office basically behaving like a spurstalk troll and editing their posts after being caught in a lie

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    I already said in my opinion its a false flag operation, a hoax. Same exact modus operandi as WMDs Iraq hoax or Operation Hades false flag where German intelligence planted plutonium in a Russian plane.

    Same band of clowns parading through radio/tv yelling lies with no proof. Same media hyping them up and spreading the lies. Same idiot citizens eating up the lie and digesting it as fact.

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    This is the tweet just deleted by Brittish Foreign office



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    This is looking like a false flag operation done by the UK intelligence-- one that is been so amateurishly.. ..
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    Brittish forign office basically behaving like a spurstalk troll and editing their posts after being caught in a lie
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    Doesnt toothless brit goverment know that when you delete a tweet doesnt mean its really gone?


    Stupid s

    Theresa May look like Mr Beans landlady

    Porton Johnsson.... PoJo

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    wouldnt that make 2 consecutive Novichok victims recovering a real world miracle? Porton Johnson

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    most epic false flag fail in history

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    Gary Aitkenhead, the chief executive of the government’s Defence Science and Technology Laboratory (DSTL), said the poison had been identified as a military-grade novichok nerve agent, which could probably be deployed only by a nation state.
    Aitkenhead said the government had reached its conclusion that Russia was responsible for the Salisbury attack by combining the laboratory’s scientific findings with information from other sources.
    Aitkenhead said: “We were able to identify it as novichok, to identify it was a military-grade nerve agent. We have not verified the precise source, but we have provided the scientific information to the government, who have then used a number of other sources to piece together the conclusions that they have come to.”


    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/03/porton-down-experts-unable-to-verify-precise-source-of-novichok

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    Porton Nixon: chemical weapons expert

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    Problem is poor Gary didnt know that the “other sources” was himself and his office

    Look at Porton Johnsons interview and Brittish Foreign office ambassador speech (and deleted tweet)

    its on ing video

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    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/03/porton-down-experts-unable-to-verify-precise-source-of-novichok
    Actually the TimesUK is reporting the Brits have determined the source lab too.

    Paywall tho.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/u...gent-nx8p39kqv

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    Russia is still holding out and it's still on them. Just because UK political opponents want to use this as a play toy it means nothing.



    Putin: we have no troops in Crimea....lie. Forgotten
    Putin: we have no troops in Ukraine... lie. Forgotten
    Putin: I have never had anything to do with the death or deligitimizing my political opponents...lie. Forgotten

    Putin: we have nothing to do with UK poisoning... Lie ...After the Russians themselves released a warning to all who betray the motherland right after the poisoning occurred. When they never thought the Brits would survive AND Teresa May had not yet said a thing about the Russians doing anything? Sure thing... They Fckn gave their own turncoats a warning... Blantant lie again.

    De Bretton-Gordon said: “Porton Down have done the job that they’re required to do. They have identified the nerve agent and said that it’s a novichock. The prime minister has stated that a number of other intelligence sources have led the UK government to believe that the Russian government are responsible for the attack in Salisbury.

    “Russia, as a signatory to the chemical weapons convention should be helping investigations including assisting the OPCW to visit Shikhany, [the base of a military research establishment in central Russia], to verify if the novichok came from there. If the Russians are as innocent as they say they are, they should allow them to visit as soon as possible.”

    Yet the Russians do nothing. They deny without any intent to prove how it could not be them which would be incredibly easy. Continuous lying from a thug. And he continues...

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    Even the Left is ripping into this Jimmy Dore is tolerable. He's calling this the British equivalent of Weapons of Mass Destruction.



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    Another glory hole in the story from newsweek

    RUSSIAN NOVICHOK DEVELOPER SAYS THERE IS NO ANTIDOTE SO SERGEI SKRIPAL AND HIS DAUGHTER WILL DIE


    http://www.newsweek.com/russian-novi...and-his-854500


    The Russian scientist who helped develop the nerve agent that the British government says left former spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia in a critical condition in Salisbury has said they will die if they are taken off life support because there is no antidote.

    Vladimir Uglev worked at Russia’s state scientific research ins ute for organic chemistry and technology, or GOSNIIOKHT, where he helped develop "Novichok" in a pilot project between 1972 and 1988 in the town of Volsk in the Saratov region.



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    There's always an antidote.

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    Another glory hole in the story from newsweek

    RUSSIAN NOVICHOK DEVELOPER SAYS THERE IS NO ANTIDOTE SO SERGEI SKRIPAL AND HIS DAUGHTER WILL DIE


    http://www.newsweek.com/russian-novi...and-his-854500


    The Russian scientist who helped develop the nerve agent that the British government says left former spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia in a critical condition in Salisbury has said they will die if they are taken off life support because there is no antidote.

    Vladimir Uglev worked at Russia’s state scientific research ins ute for organic chemistry and technology, or GOSNIIOKHT, where he helped develop "Novichok" in a pilot project between 1972 and 1988 in the town of Volsk in the Saratov region.


    “If Skripal and his daughter received a lethal dose of B-1976, C-1976, or D-1980...."

    lol hater always lies

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    This is by far the most comical and inept false flag operation done by an intelligence service in recent times..What the the British were thinking ...

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