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    Well the Trump Org isn't getting all the money, but you can be sure it's a multimillion deal for them.
    Any proof the Trump brand has declined in Asia? That is the area we are talking about. Not all of the world gets bombarded with Trump hate from the media.

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    And you guys are totally ignoring that the fat boy in NK took a train ride to China and the following week he was talking about giving up his nukes. That pressure from China wont come cheap. Thats just how works.
    And now Kim is talking about canceling the talks.

    What's going to be the price now?

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    Any proof the Trump brand has declined in Asia? That is the area we are talking about. Not all of the world gets bombarded with Trump hate from the media.
    I was making the same point you and Random were making about Trump's not getting half a billion himself.

    How much more do you need to white knight for the guy?

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    And now Kim is talking about canceling the talks.

    What's going to be the price now?
    US already scaled back the joint military exercise. Fat boy will go to the table.

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    I was making the same point you and Random were making about Trump's not getting half a billion himself.

    How much more do you need to white knight for the guy?
    Sorry, accidentally quoted you instead of RG about the Trump brand declining.

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    US already scaled back the joint military exercise. Fat boy will go to the table.
    Why? If it was that easy to get Trump to fold, no reason for Kim and Xi to stop there.

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    And now Kim is talking about canceling the talks.

    What's going to be the price now?
    NK is almost certainly gonna walk. They got their propaganda, with Trump calling Kim "honorable", and played Dumb Donny for a sucker. Bolton will drive the talks, and his insistence on unilateral unconditional disarmament is laughable to anyone with any topical knowledge. Dumb Donny doesn't know enough to push back to Bolton who probably comes off like a genius to someone as ignorant as Trump.

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    Sorry, accidentally quoted you instead of RG about the Trump brand declining.
    Any proof the Trump brand has declined in Asia? That is the area we are talking about. Not all of the world gets bombarded with Trump hate from the media.
    Trump’s hotel brand and management gigs, as well as his golf properties, suffered from his polarizing image this year as well. A number of hotels — in Toronto, Manhattan and, most recently, Panama City — dropped Trump’s name from their branding as their properties became sites for protests. The licensing losses resulted in a $50 million drop this year, according to Forbes.
    http://time.com/money/5188095/donald...et-worth-2018/

    Where is this development again?


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    Why? If it was that easy to get Trump to fold, no reason for Kim and Xi to stop there.
    It was a show of good faith without any loss of capability. Are you really hoping talks break down just to give Trump a loss? I would love to see the Korean ceasefire resolved permanently without adding NK to the nuke party.

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    It was a show of good faith without any loss of capability. Are you really hoping talks break down just to give Trump a loss? I would love to see the Korean ceasefire resolved permanently without adding NK to the nuke party.
    I would love it too, so don't even try that straw man. I just don't think it's going to be as easy as you think it will for your hero.

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    Jakarta.

    Indonesia.

    Where 87% of the population is muslim, and asia where 66% of the worlds Muslims live.

    I'm sure Trumps "brand" will do wonders.

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    The development is in Indonesia. Im not sure they hate Trump there.

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    I would love it too, so don't even try that straw man. I just don't think it's going to be as easy as you think it will for your hero.
    Its not a strawman. Its not gonna happen without China and there will be a bill due we will have to pay somehow.

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    Its not a strawman. Its not gonna happen without China and there will be a bill due we will have to pay somehow.
    Right, and the price is going up.

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    Right, and the price is going up.
    Are you saying you wouldnt throw China some expensive bones to de-nuke fat boy?

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    Are you saying you wouldnt throw China some expensive bones to de-nuke fat boy?
    I've said all along that Kim would have to be bribed to give up his nukes. Dennison is so stupid he didn't even think that military exercises a month before the talks could have some effect on the negotiations.

    The price is going up.

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    The development is in Indonesia. Im not sure they hate Trump there.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

    Wow, I guess that says it all.

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    but bribery

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    but bribery
    He said he's going to save ZTE.

    Why?

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    He said he's going to save ZTE.

    Why?
    ...because it pertains to a larger trade deal.

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    ...because it pertains to a larger trade deal.
    Why reward the company that hardwires spying into it's products so much that the Pentagon bans them?

    Explain, Chris.

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    Why reward the company that hardwires spying into it's products so much that the Pentagon bans them?

    Explain, Chris.
    Looks like Apple and Samsung got some serious compe ion and pulled some strings imo

    Huawei is very high on the food chain and got banned as well.

    https://www.marketing91.com/samsung-compe ors/

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    Looks like Apple and Samsung got some serious compe ion and pulled some strings imo

    Huawei is very high on the food chain and got banned as well.

    https://www.marketing91.com/samsung-compe ors/
    How did they pull strings to embed spying technology in the hardware of ZTE and Huawei phones, Chris?

    Explain.

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    How did they pull strings to embed spying technology in the hardware of ZTE and Huawei phones, Chris?

    Explain.
    There's spying technology in all phones. Looks like these guys got singled out.

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    There's spying technology in all phones. Looks like these guys got singled out.
    Singled out by the Pentagon how, Chris?

    Explain.

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