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Lebron is a pimp doesn't mean he likes Kawhi even if he wants him to play with him. It just means he views Kawhi as somebody he can use to help him win more le much like he has used Bosh,Kyrie, etc.
Why would the Spurs offer SuperMax with how Kawhi acted? SA let him control his rehab for 8 months with no improvement. Also, Kawhi didn’t do anything as a good teammate while getting paid and let his team drive a wedge between them.
Did SA get frustrated and let it show sometimes? Sure, but on the scale of handling things poorly it’s on Kawhi. Especially if you want a team to pay you 219M. You better show them beyond a shadow of a doubt you are worth it.
Seeking out your own team, keeping them in the dark, being a questionable teammate and still not getting healthy even though you have your own doctors for 8 months? What about that screams “pay me 219M”?
Last edited by daslicer; 05-20-2018 at 10:13 PM.
Also, plenty of teams have issues with it. Spurs have had other players get 2nd opinions as well and had no issues with it..
And to sum it up; the other players won’t care about the details. They see a guy who sat out had 219M on the table if he just acted normal and will see a guy going to a worse team for 80M less than he could have had. They won’t care about the details and the Spurs already won the PR battle to boot.
That’s all I was getting at IF it gets to the point where SA holds onto Kawhi because Kawhi is playing hard ball and limiting their ability to yield a good return in a deal.
About being a bad teammate and keeping them in the dark are things that you want to believe. Because Kawhi said the opposite.
He said he called Pop daily, he called and texted his teammates all season. Sure, he didn't text Parker/Manu but he called his younger teammates since Day 1 of rehab.
You believe that? I don’t believe what Kawhi said because he said he was close and never returned. Also, think about it: Why would Pop be mad and act like he didn’t know what was going on if Kawhi was truly keeping them in the loop?
You think Pop wants Kawhi gone and wanted him to want out? You think Pop hates Kawhi for choosing his own doctors so much that he would risk losing him especially knowing the true details on him actually being hurt?
Why the players only meeting including the younger guys if they all knew what was going on?
If Lebron thinks Kawhi can help him to win more les that means Lebron has to view him as an elite player...which was exactly what he didn't want to recognize in previous season.
I think the players knew he was good; he just was not part of the “in” crowd. They didn’t feel he was better than guys like Paul George, etc..(they were wrong.
Right and that doesn't mean he likes Kawhi.
There is no way of acting normal when Spurs' doctors cleared him to play but he still felt his quad wasn't right.
He wouldn't play injured to "act normal".
I’m saying, do your rehab, but be around the team, be a player coach, talk to the media and keep everyone up to date, etc..
You can’t choose your own doctors and be in control of your rehab for 8 months and say as little as he did especially as “rumors” fly.
He had a setback. Even RC said Kawhi's rehab was never linear...
About teammates, others Spurs' players confirmed that Kawhi called them all season. That ESPN article, too.
Because Pop wanted to force Kawhi's into Spurs' way again, wanted to gain total control again, wanted Kawhi to leave his NYC doctors....He though Kawhi's camp would panic but it didn't work.Also, think about it: Why would Pop be mad and act like he didn’t know what was going on if Kawhi was truly keeping them in the loop?
You think Pop wants Kawhi gone and wanted him to want out? You think Pop hates Kawhi for choosing his own doctors so much that he would risk losing him especially knowing the true details on him actually being hurt?
Why the players only meeting including the younger guys if they all knew what was going on?
Pop doesn't hate Kawhi for choosing his own doctors, I guess he hates the fact Kawhi doesn't trust Spurs' doctors anymore.
That seems far fetched to me considering there have been examples of SA players getting 2nd opinions and never having any issues with it like this.
Also, I can see them wanting Kawhi to leave his doctors when he’s had 8 months with doctors of his choosing and they are suffering setbacks under their watch. Obviously his doctors didn’t really know what they were doing, no?
Do you really think the Spurs would have given him $219 if he would do all those things but still couldn't play? Do you think they would have thrown that money at him after just 9 games in a season?
I guess Kawhi knew that answer better than us.
I’m saying he would have gotten more money had he gone about things that way than he appears to be headed towards. If SA believes he is damaged goods and Kawhi doesn’t want to believe that (even though it’s getting harder to not believe SA looking at how Kawhi is still not cleared even after 8 months with his own hand picked multiple doctors and continuing to suffer setbacks) then there is the impass.
Ramona said his NYC doctors found ossifications that Spurs' doctor never did. I doubt those NYC want to lose their good rep or even their careers lying about his injury.
Bottom line is he had 8 months on his own schedule. Maybe it was that that caused the ossifications? Maybe they weren’t there when SA had control but this new regimen caused this? Also I dont think the NY has a good rep for this type of injury at all. Not that it’s bad, but he’s not someone considered elite at dealing with this type of injury from what I’ve heard.
He wouldn't have gotten the super-max. The rest doesn't matter.
I guess the only incentive that young players have in small markets is getting big money, otherwise there is no reason to stay.
^ That is ridiculous on many levels. The SuperMax is artificial. This “smal market” can pay him just as much as LA can if LA wanted to max him out. In fact, they can pay him MORE and still not have to pay the FULL SuperMax.
But there is plenty of reason to stay like winning/coaching/etc...SA is much better than LA. You can market yourself from anywhere in the world now as proven by other small market stars making money more than Kawhi has.
I don't think you ever see Kawhi and LMA go to the same team together.
I doubt it. How would you have ossifications for rehabbing? What causes ossifications happens to athletes playing.
I didn't say his doctors are the best, I'm just saying they wouldn't put at risk careers and rep for lying about a player injury.Also I dont think the NY has a good rep for this type of injury at all. Not that it’s bad, but he’s not someone considered elite at dealing with this type of injury from what I’ve heard.
Pop said 'He's in NYC trying to get healthy.' This was immediately following 'you'll have to ask his group' which got spun all over the place. There is little doubt that several of the veteran players were in the dark, but I have no reason to believe he was ever doing anything other than 'trying to get healthy.'
He wanted full supermax.
If a player would lose money one way or another...I guess he would want to choose where he would lose his money.
I doubt it if Kawhi felt that Spurs' doctors mishandled his injury in some way.But there is plenty of reason to stay like winning/coaching/etc...
Don't need to tell me this. I hate Lakers and Clips.SA is much better than LA.
Not every player has a crazy personality like Russ.You can market yourself from anywhere in the world now as proven by other small market stars making money more than Kawhi has.
Durant didn't have a crazy personality either and was able to get endorsement deals while he was in OKC. Stop making excuse for Kawhi being a mute.
Durant was #2 pick, he always got media attention and he was open to them.
Saying Kawhi is a low-key guy it's not an excuse, it's a fact.
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