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    Define easy access and I may agree with you.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...zis/623438002/

    according to this story, he didnt have an ar-15. he had a shotgun and a handgun. both were his father's guns.

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    So?

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    lol satan worshipper

    greek orthodox church

    http://www.assumptiontx.org/the-dancing-thalassapoulia/

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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...zis/623438002/

    according to this story, he didnt have an ar-15. he had a shotgun and a handgun. both were his father's guns.
    Ok.

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    he's just passing along information... not everything has to be a point

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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...zis/623438002/

    according to this story, he didnt have an ar-15. he had a shotgun and a handgun. both were his father's guns.
    The father should be charged with something.

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    The father should be charged with something.
    You know this happened today right?

    You edited it from "should have been charged"

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    he's just passing along information... not everything has to be a point
    I'll let him tell me if his info is relevant or not. Thanks for your input tho.

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    I'll let him tell me if his info is relevant or not. Thanks for your input tho.
    It's relevant. Any details on the shooter are a good thing conducive to the conversation.

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    would have to know the cir stances in the home before deciding if the father's gonna be charged... if he had it stored/locked away and the kid found the key or some , hard to hold the dad accountable

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    at some point you have to realize that it's not relevant. is he black, white, republican, democrat, christian, atheist... who gives a .

    the common denominator is that they are able to easily access the means to kill a bunch of people. and nobody seems to be interested in trying anything to prevent it.
    Not to diminish the gun problem, but the other common denominator is that these people have gotten to the point where they want to kill other people. Agree that something needs to be done about the easy access to high capacity guns.
    But even with no guns, I believe some portion of these potential murderers will find alternative methods to take lives.

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    I'll let him tell me if his info is relevant or not. Thanks for your input tho.
    never put your guard down

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    would have to know the cir stances in the home
    I'm guessing another single parent nightmare.

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    Not to diminish the gun problem, but the other common denominator is that these people have gotten to the point where they want to kill other people. Agree that something needs to be done about the easy access to high capacity guns.
    But even with no guns, I believe some portion of these potential murderers will find alternative methods to take lives.
    That's the gist of the argument against gun control.

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    Not to diminish the gun problem, but the other common denominator is that these people have gotten to the point where they want to kill other people. Agree that something needs to be done about the easy access to high capacity guns.
    But even with no guns, I believe some portion of these potential murderers will find alternative methods to take lives.
    oh, no doubt. i think its a good step though. some portion of these guys will find alternative methods. some wont.

    of the portion that do, some portion will find a method that will produce similar amounts of carnage. some wont. last week there was a "stabbing attack" in paris. 2 people died, one of whom was the assailant. not all alternative means are going to lead to 9 deaths.

    but i think restricting access is a pretty viable countermeasure and it's something that we can have complete control over... unlike the underlying mental states

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    I'm guessing another single parent nightmare.
    I'm gonna say you're wrong without looking.

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    I'm gonna say you're wrong without looking.
    Shocker!

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    That's the gist of the argument against gun control.
    Which part?

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    The latter.

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    I'm guessing another single parent nightmare.
    constantly searching for every other variable instead of just looking at the common denominator...

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    OK, I looked.

    You're wrong.

    Shocker!

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    Lol satanist...


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    Texas AG Paxton: US Schools Should Mimic Israel's Security



    Schools in the United States should borrow security ideas from Israel to keep students and teachers safe, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton said Friday.

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    oh, no doubt. i think its a good step though. some portion of these guys will find alternative methods. some wont.

    of the portion that do, some portion will find a method that will produce similar amounts of carnage. some wont. last week there was a "stabbing attack" in paris. 2 people died, one of whom was the assailant. not all alternative means are going to lead to 9 deaths.

    but i think restricting access is a pretty viable countermeasure and it's something that we can have complete control over... unlike the underlying mental states
    I agree with that.

    Dealing with the underlying mental states would be infinitely more difficult.

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