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If I ever complained about it then, it was merely pointing out hypocrisy. There’s suddenly fake outrage about a situation that has existed years before DJT was president.
nope i was assured clinton wanted open borders
If I ever complained about it then, it was merely pointing out hypocrisy. There’s suddenly fake outrage about a situation that has existed years before DJT was president.
If you search that HRC sentence, it's ALL OVER the right wing racist, hate media echo chamber, posobiec, daily caller, washington moonie times, etc.
https://www.politico.com/story/2015/...igrants-217210
Did Hillary also say that children should be separated from their parents? What does Jack "pizza gate rat er" Posobiec say?
there's been a rash of that, but i think the outrage is justified even if it happens to be hypocritical. The policy is that bad.
DO YOU THINK CHILDREN SHOULD BE KILLED ? if you are for abortation you do
get them a trial then in 7 days and if they can stay stay if NOT GET THE OUT WITH THEM AND THEIR MOMMY AND DADDY
building the wall will make them use ports and not get separated if they claim ayslym
seven days?
that's a quick turnaround.
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Last edited by boutons_deux; 06-18-2018 at 08:07 PM.
are you sure there are enough administrative courts and gmen dedicated to the task? enough for profit prisons?
" situation that has existed years before"
You Lie
asylum seekers crossing the border were not immediately criminalized, jailed as criminals, and their kids separated.
search terms: Rick Perry, ladders
seven days entry to exit, if it could approximate due process, would be amazing.
What should be done about it?
Hard call, for DJT.
GOP voters love it.
if the GOP eases off, they will alienate the people they love, and fail to pacify the people they hate.
What's the angle for DJT?
my money's on more cruelty to foreigners. it seems to be a very powerful selling point.
Last edited by Winehole23; 06-18-2018 at 09:11 PM.
I’m guessing these detention centers are way more luxurious than the desert
But, I’m sure we’ve gone from best immigration policies evah to dislodging suckling babies and throwing them in the Rio Grande.
how kind of you to consider the conditions of detention
your tender feelings for humanity have been noted.
Drumpf admin full of Nazis and Rooshians, even though those two groups hated each other. Drumpf doing Putin’s bidding by enforcing laws already on the books.
Family Separation, Evil Via Policy and The Internal Contradictions of Trumpism
It is clear from lower court decisions in recent weeks that
if the goal beyond family separation is deterrence or punishment the policy has serious legal and cons utional problems.
The problem for the administration is that
the highest ranking members of the executive branch (Trump, Sessions and others) have already stated explicitly that the aim is deterrence.
This is not just sloppiness or indiscipline.
The essence of Trumpism is dominance and punishment of those outside the tribal fold.
It is probably even wrong to call this a policy of deterrence.
It’s a policy of punishment.
At the most basic level folks like
Miller, Sessions, Trump want to show they are kicking ass at the border, against lawless non-white people.
They want to do it and
they want to show they are doing it.
For them doing it doesn’t matter unless you show it.
It’s what a TPM Reader identified as
the essence of Trumpism: ‘performative cruelty‘.
if you say that is the point, which they have repeatedly, you get in trouble in the courts.
You can commit all manner of evil with the federal government simply by making a series of discretionary decisions which lead inevitably to unconscionable, evil results. (There’s a strong parallel here to the administration’s Muslim ban.) But
if you say the cruelty is awesome, that you’re doing it on purpose, a different scaffolding of law kicks into action.
For base Trumpists: family separation for the bad people is simply awesome.
For other pro-Trump Republicans: evil against children may not be okay, but abusing Democrats works.
So for them, no defense of family separation as such, but stick it on the Democrats.
Blaming the opponents of your policy for policy is perverse, nasty and thus awesome.
What we’ve seen this weekend is that evil practiced on children, by design, with quotes from senior administration officials floating around saying it’s great was just too much.
This created a sort of 10 car pile of contradictory BS answers.
It’s awesome.
The Democrats made us do it.
It’s not happening.
And here we are.
It is difficult to imagine this policy will survive the week in its current form, given this firestorm.
But
we should recognize how deeply embedded the need for these actions is in Trumpism.
This isn’t a byproduct.
Child separation as punishment, on display, was always a feature not a bug.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/family-separation-evil-via-policy-and-the-internal-contradictions-of-trumpism
Oh so he didnt ramp it up drastically?
Also, no one actually cares about the kids theyre just pretending to?
Fake outrage
DarrenS melted down.
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