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    NASA can't do .
    Priorities.

    Seems to be a trend of declining appropriations.

    NASA SUCKS, is your take, really?


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    ok.

    NASA SUCKS says NASA SUCKS.

    anyone else?

    why is SPACE FORCE a good idea?

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    for the multiplayer shoot em ups online, no doubt.

    might be a very valuable brand someday.

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    https://arstechnica.com/science/2018...eavy-launches/


    No. I can come up with any link for costs. Here's another. You were drilling me after I mentioned the quote I read but couldn't find. Any ing idiot can take three seconds and come up with some data on space x versus NASA costs.
    Good article. As a space nerd I'm a bit annoyed I haven't seen this yet. Thanks.

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    ok.

    NASA SUCKS says NASA SUCKS.

    anyone else?

    why is SPACE FORCE a good idea?
    Welcome to the stopped clock effect. One of the few things I think Trump is getting right. I have little doubt the motivation is somewhat narcissistic, and I think it is yet another indication of Trumps fossilized thinking that reflects a world that existed in the 1970s, when space was still a big thing to many people. In this, our turning away from space was dumb in many regards.

    If one thinks about it, it overlaps a bit with the mission of the air force, but one could argue that it is something of a logical progression even so. Other branches do have some overlap, but not unworkably so. Country started with an army and navy, but had to add a new branch when technology got to the point where having a specialized force seemed necessary.

    As noted, launch costs are coming down. There is enough interest in getting off the planet to believe that trend will continue. Simple technological progression. Civilians will be there, just as civilians built ships and explored the seas. with civilians, comes governments and laws.

    The military already recognizes that armed conflict isn't going to stop at the upper atmosphere, and has been working on various doctrines interlinking space with other forces. Having a distinct branch will allow some specialization and development. I can probably find the actual Field Manual on space ops if you want. it was interesting reading.

    Drawbacks are obvious: more Bureaucratic bloat to the Pentagon, but not more so than we have already. Hopefully it will force the government to be a bit more watchful of the budget and maybe (shocker) audit them?


    Dunno. I think the idea gets more flak than it deserves, simply because of who put it out there.

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    Drawbacks are obvious: more Bureaucratic bloat to the Pentagon, but not more so than we have already
    what a relief

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    We don't know if Space Force is a good idea. It's a bad name for a focus on space defense. I thought SDI was a cooler sounding name.

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    Takes an act of Congress.

    Trash exercising Made-For-TeeVee powers he doesn't have. A total charade, a LIE like everything he does and says.

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    SPACE SHADE

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    "Under the Sea Force"

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    Pavlov found a random NASA guy who retweets for Hillary and hates Trump.

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    Pavlov found a random NASA guy who retweets for Hillary and hates Trump.
    i found a random guy who retweets for trump and hates hillary

    but he was locked out of his account for bot-like behavior

    more than once


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    Pavlov found a random NASA guy who retweets for Hillary and hates Trump.
    Chris doesn't know who Mark Kelly is.

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    Chris doesn't know who Mark Kelly is.
    I heard him speak a few years back at a leadership conference at the Alamodome. Great stories.

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    In Trump’s Universe, Everyone Loves “Space Force” | The Daily Show


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYQX...dyxN3gAoFl-5-6

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    Will the Space Force have Denise Richards as a pilot?


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    The Roddenberry family should sue

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    The Roddenberry family should sue
    it's good pub for them, besides, there's a decent chance the Biden team will roll up the Space Force.

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    Trying to make amends


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    The voyagers, made by NASA are now both beyond our solar system. Voyager 1 has detected, unexpectedly, many more "particles" and energy from our sun than projected. The smaller Space probes made by Nasa and inhabited by sensors from various Universities and en es helped via our government are making smaller probes with better sensors and are giving us so much data we cant keep up with examining it all.

    The cool deal is these small probes costs very little to a launch and are not fitted with as much sensing gear, but the gear that is present is very robust, so we are learning quite a lot inexpensively. We cant even keep up with all the data so help is needed.

    Putting humans up is just not cost effective, especially right now.

    But for right now, a lot of good stuff going on. Yes and for the military freaks, we will be learning more about shooting satellites from other countries, if thats what it comes to.
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    Back to the Air Force with you nerds....

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