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    Sorry I made a thread about something that could have been added to others, but I want this to gain more exposure.

    I proposed this on another thread:

    Three way trade:

    -Spurs get Butler and Miami's unprotected 2020 pick.
    -Wolves get Covington and a Philly 1st round pick.
    -Sixers get Kawhi.

    http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybmx468w

    -Spurs get as close a player as they probably can ever get to a Kawhi type, and a lottery pick.
    -Wolves get a great 3 and D guy (who also led the league in +/- for small forwards) to pair with Wiggins and KAT, and a 1st round pick.
    -Sixers get Kawhi by only giving up Covington and two draft picks.

    Win/win/win. Imvho.
    Some said that the Wolves wouldn't go for that, but I don't know, it seems like a pretty reasonable get for a disgruntled Butler. And in any case, both the Spurs and Sixers have many assets to make the deal more appealing to Minnesota.

    Am I too burned out from all the drama, potential trades and rosters speculation, or does this actually make a lot of sense for all the parties involved?
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    ...a.k.a. mAtT!iC3 mudyez's Avatar
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    I guess, you might have to flip the Picks.

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    Salaries aren't close enough and 76ers are already over the cap.

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    Salaries aren't close enough and 76ers are already over the cap.
    Did you even care to check the link?

    http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybmx468w

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    My bad, didn't see you mention Bayless.

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    My bad, didn't see you mention Bayless.
    Didn't in the post because he isn't really essential to the trade, he's just filler.

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    Very bad value for Minny.

    A philly first round pick not worth much if Kawhi is playing in Philly and the east is trash.
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    I think Minny would want a bit more.

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    Spurs cannot, without getting MULTIPLE picks with good shots at being in the lottery take a package for Kawhi that doesn’t include an all star level player or a young player with still perceived all star upside.

    They just can’t do it. I truly believe what SA wants is win now players more than guys like Ingram or Fultz but if that’s the case you have to get multiple picks.

    This thing with PHI where they are saying no Fultz AND only one pick? No. You either give up Fultz and one pick or keep Fultz and send 3 picks.
    What about this?

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    I would do that for sure. You get an all star which is what I believe SA wants and a solid pick.


    I think Minny would want more. But if Minny/Phi would agree it’s a strong trade.

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    I would do that for sure. You get an all star which is what I believe SA wants and a solid pick.


    I think Minny would want more. But if Minny/Phi would agree it’s a strong trade.
    There's something here for sure. I wonder if PATFO is exploring this opportunity.

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    People putting too much value on worthless picks. Anything out of the top 15 is akin to a 5th to 7th round NFL pick.

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    Minnesota needs much more than this.

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    Minnesota needs much more than this.
    Saric, Murray, Z.Smith. Other draft picks. There are many ways to get something done, it just needs to be talked.

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    Philly does this in a heartbeat as they are giving up very little. Another piece or pick needs to go Minny’s way.
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    LOL trading Butler for Covington, Covington was unplayable last playoff with the sixers for some stretches... It's like we trade Danny green for Butler, lol...
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    Sorry I made a thread about something that could have been added to others, but I want this to gain more exposure.

    I proposed this on another thread:



    Some said that the Wolves wouldn't go for that, but I don't know, it seems like a pretty reasonable get for a disgruntled Butler. And in any case, both the Spurs and Sixers have many assets to make the deal more appealing to Minnesota.

    Am I too burned out from all the drama, potential trades and rosters speculation, or does this actually make a lot of sense for all the parties involved?
    So a disgruntled Butler is 10 cents on the dollar vs a disgruntled Kawhi. ST blinders bruh

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    LOL trading Butler for Covington, Covington was unplayable last playoff with the sixers for some stretches... It's like we trade Danny green for Butler, lol...
    Covingtion led all SF in +/- last season and is 27 years old.

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    So a disgruntled Butler is 10 cents on the dollar vs a disgruntled Kawhi. ST blinders bruh
    If folks thought that Kawhi is worth Covington, Saric and a pick. Then Butler is definitely worth that.

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    If we were doing a three-way trade, I think I would rather try to get Boston involved. In my dream scenario, San Antonio gets Kyrie and Butler. Boston gets Kawhi. Minnesota gets expiring contracts, young players, and draft picks from both SA and Boston. Minnesota seems like they are not going to be able to keep Butler, so they may be enticed.

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    If all Wolves want for Butler is Cov , Saric and Philly pick for Butler , I give it to them if I am the Sixers.

    I keep Miami pick and forget about Kawhi.

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    If all Wolves want for Butler is Cov , Saric and Philly pick for Butler , I give it to them if I am the Sixers.

    I keep Miami pick and forget about Kawhi.
    Kawhi >>>>>>>>> Bulter.

    That is worth giving up a Miami pick that you are not sure it's going to be on the lottery or not.

    It's like saying you wouldn't give the Miami pick for Lebron.

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    Kawhi >>>>>>>>> Bulter.

    That is worth giving up a Miami pick that you are not sure it's going to be on the lottery or not.

    It's like saying you wouldn't give the Miami pick for Lebron.
    Spurs want more than Saric , Cov and the 2 draft picks for Kawhi

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    Spurs want more than Saric , Cov and the 2 draft picks for Kawhi
    But Butler isn't half the player Kawhi is, so maybe Minnesota is fine with that package.

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    Teague, Wiggins, Covington, Saric, KAT is arguably better than last season's Wolves team with Butler.

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    But Butler isn't half the player Kawhi is, so maybe Minnesota is fine with that package.
    For Butler. Thats why I do the deal for Butler.

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    Minnesota needs much more than this.
    Why? They're in the same boat the Spurs are in, he's going to fly the coop at the end of the season regardless, so it's either let him go for cap space or get something in exchange. The reason the Spurs need, and can get more, is because Kawhi is one of 5 or so truly elite players that make a difference and the best two way player in the game and Jimmy Butler isn't any of those things- he's not a difference maker, he's been a malcontent in two locations. Minny already has a potential borderline All Star in Wiggins and a potential Top 10 Player in KAT. Focus on them and build a team around those pieces.

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    For Butler. Thats why I do the deal for Butler.
    I don't understand what you are trying to say.

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    If folks thought that Kawhi is worth Covington, Saric and a pick. Then Butler is definitely worth that.
    Still not understanding me. A deal worse than the one everyone on Spurstalk laughed at is what Minny should get while Spurs get Jimmy Butler plus the best draft pick. You must think the Spurs are the kingpin and everyone else are just pawns.

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    Why would Wolves do this
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