Hack or Leak: Who Really Stole the DNC Files?

[Pavlov]

https://blog.threatstop.com/my-conve...nce-operations

lol "don't you know who I am?"

[Spurminator]

you believe Russia flipped key states?

I don't have nearly enough information to make such a claim. I said it's debatable.

Yes they can report on meddling but not 24/7 for an entire year

Plus where is the reporting on meddling by china, north korea, and Israel???

Disgusting. I havent been able to watch cnn for more than 5 consecutive minutes at a time for the last year and a half

And I would leave it on for a whole day back in the day

I haven't watched any cable news in years. I don't recommend it. News isn't meant to be consumed that way.

[hater]

I don't have nearly enough information to make such a claim. I said it's debatable.



I haven't watched any cable news in years. I don't recommend it. News isn't meant to be consumed that way.

Sure anything is possible even existence of Martian life. Doesnt mean cable news needs to talk about it 24/7

Just go to cnn.com right now:
- Trump now says Putin is responsible for meddling
- anderson cooper imotates Trumps “no” moment (wtf?? )
- j toobin blasts Trumps pathetic interview
- confronted with putin lies Trump flinches again
- sarah sanders defends trump comments
- fbi: russia most aggresive actor in election inteference

And thats just the fron page

Do you think thats healthy? It has been going on like that for a year

Im sorry but I dont know what you mean News should not be ingested this way. Millions of americans have cable news on all day. Cnn is even in airports 24/7

Its sick and its causing damage to americans. Sorry and cnn, msnbc ( and fox under obama) are culprits

[Pavlov]

Sure anything is possible even existence of Martian life. Doesnt mean cable news needs to talk about it 24/7

Just go to cnn.com right now:
- Trump now says Putin is responsible for meddling
- anderson cooper imotates Trumps “no” moment (wtf?? )
- j toobin blasts Trumps pathetic interview
- confronted with putin lies Trump flinches again
- sarah sanders defends trump comments
- fbi: russia most aggresive actor in election inteference

And thats just the fron page

Do you think thats healthy? It has been going on like that for a year

Im sorry but I dont know what you mean News should not be ingested this way. Millions of americans have cable news on all day. Cnn is even in airports 24/7

Its sick and its causing damage to americans. Sorry and cnn, msnbc ( and fox under obama) are culprits

Aw, big bad CNN is being a meanie bobeanie to Trump.

Are you even a citizen?

[ElNono]

Not saying Russia did not hack it but there is not enough solid evidence

Did you actually read the latest indictment? Yes, there's solid evidence (of the hack by the GRU).

[ElNono]

Here's an actual copy of the indictment embedded midway through that page:

https://www.lawfareblog.com/russia-i...ing-indictment

[ElNono]

One more thing I dont get:

Trump has ALL the security clearances possible. So howcome FBI was not able to sit him in anroom and show him and explain to him ALL the evidence?

Even if they did do that (which, as you say, he could request), nobody would know, due to the confidentiality of the information while an investigation was (is) in progress.

What he does have the authority to do is declassify all that info and make it public, tbh (with the downside he would be burning some informants and govt spies).

[ElNono]

People also need to stop conflating one thing with the other. That Russia hacked the DNC *could* have affected the election result, but there's certainly no claim (so far) from the investigators on that respect.

The fact that Russia interfered with the election (regardless of the outcome), obviously warrants an investigation and prosecution of those involved.

[pgardn]

you believe Russia flipped key states?

Yes they can report on meddling but not 24/7 for an entire year

Plus where is the reporting on meddling by china, north korea, and Israel???

Disgusting. I havent been able to watch cnn for more than 5 consecutive minutes at a time for the last year and a half

And I would leave it on for a whole day back in the day

You don’t read.
There are financial and corporate secrets attacks from both China an NK.
Israel’s use of human assets. Often leaked by the Israeli press (go figure a democracy tells on itself, something that always escapes you) to the American press.

The problem with you is you put the tube on and think it’s the only news.
Then you go to your RT affiliationed sites and conspiracy sites to have a goofy read because you clearly hunt down what you WANT TO BELIEVE.

And then have the ignorance to think others are being duped...
You are the political analogue of Cosmo wacko.

[pgardn]

People also need to stop conflating one thing with the other. That Russia hacked the DNC *could* have affected the election result, but there's certainly no claim (so far) from the investigators on that respect.

The fact that Russia interfered with the election (regardless of the outcome), obviously warrants an investigation and prosecution of those involved.

Trump’s team has done a wonderful job of linking the two for the Orange audience. Then you got the Bootian Democrat fanatic that swallow it whole. Conclusion for the ignorant Orange, “ shut down Mueller”. Mueller has been given wide la ude to find out who has played with our elections and more, tough luck team Donald, you asked for it. Family and friends investigated has got Donny Orange shivering.

[hater]

Did you actually read the latest indictment? Yes, there's solid evidence (of the hack by the GRU).

Yes read the indictment.

I was refering to the Hillary hacks. The indictment does not mention the Hillary Hack specifically.

It claims:
- russians probed and stole credentials for DNC servers
- logged in and installed spyware
- stole info on 500,000 voters
- Guccifer 2 communicated with US lawmakers and jounalists about hacks

Nothing about Hillary Clinton Hack, or much less collusion and much less any of this even made a dent on final election results

My statement stands:
There is no evidence Russian government was the en y that hacked and/or leaked the hillary emails

[hater]

BTW Regarding one more claim about Russia investing in social media to gauge and create social trends using social media.

ALL major governments are using this now. Actually US wrote the book on this and blatantly tested this in Cuba. The project was called Zunzuneo:

US secretly created 'Cuban Twitter' to stir unrest and undermine government
USAid started ZunZuneo, a social network built on texts, in hope it could be used to organize 'smart mobs' to trigger Cuban spring


https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...eo-stir-unrest

I believe the Arab spring was also helped through US/UK similar projects

[boutons_deux]

That Russia hacked the DNC *could* have affected the election result

wrong.

*DID* affect the result, with Assange dribbling out Pootin-stolen DNS/Podesta emails for months, distracting from, wounding the Hillary/DNC campaign.

Then Comey, already having violated FBI protocol to trash unindicted Hillary on national TV in the summer, delivered the coup de grace 10 days before the election to Nunes.
The race should not have been so close that Comey's bull decided it by 80K votes,

except for Pootin/Assange weakening Hillary DECISIVELY, mortally.

[cheguevara]

also has not been proven Guccifer 2 is Russia intelligence operative. it is an "hacker" working out of Romania.

apparently the only "link" from Guccifer 2 to Russian intelligence is the operative "forgot" to switch his/her VPN addresses and those were tracked back to Moscow.

I have worked with many IT experts and a hacker or intelligence officer forgeting to switch their VPN is equivalent to someone forgeting to put on their pants before leaving the house.

Intelligence do ents say regarding Guccifer 2 being Moscow/Russian operative (not even GRU, just russian):
CIA and FBI have high confidence
in this judgment; NSA has moderate confidence.

so even NSA does not have "high confidence" but "moderate"

[Pavlov]

What are you so desperate for it to be something other than Russia?

[Chucho]

What are you so desperate for it to be something other than Russia?

Is Che an alt? If so, I'm astonished, shocked and appalled.

[spurraider21]

Did you actually read the latest indictment? Yes, there's solid evidence (of the hack by the GRU).

but how does that factor in seth rich?

[Trey Gowdy]

FYI, registration is open again, and mono is already busy making more stupid alts.

[cheguevara]

What are you so desperate for it to be something other than Russia?

Why are you so desperate for it to be nothing other than Russia?

[Pavlov]

Why are you so desperate for it to be nothing other than Russia?

There is no desperation. Just going by the evidence and Occam's razor.

[boutons_deux]

Right, but that's different than believing Putin hatched a plan in 2013 or whatever to make Donald Trump the President.

Trash and Russians were in contact in 80s, then Trash was hinting well before '13 about running for Pres, which certainly got even more of the Russians'attentions, and $100Ms in loans, real estate purchases, money laundering.

They groomed, compromised Trash, Successfully

[hater]

Why are you so desperate for it to be nothing other than Russia?

Ouch


Che

[Chucho]

Trash and Russians were in contact in 80s, then Trash was hinting well before '13 about running for Pres, which certainly got even more of the Russians'attentions, and $100Ms in loans, real estate purchases, money laundering.

They groomed, compromised Trash, Successfully

Bat crazy conspiri ./

"Oligarchy"

Rooskies and Trump conspired for 30 years to make Trump POTUS.

[Spurminator]

Like I said, living in an alternate reality...

[DarrinS]

https://disobedientmedia.com/2018/07...public-domain/