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    2. Goalpost change from "He got caught because he murdered a guy and left the body in his fiancee's car for a year."
    We'll never know how long the car with the body would have continued to sit. Dumb if he wanted to get a way to leave the body there, yes.
    He was absolutely caught because he left the body in the car. The body wouldn't have been found in the car had he not left the body in he car.

    4. You don't know that he bragged. He could have confided in a neighbor, who seemed sympathetic but was in reality a snitch. Either way bad move by the Dad yes. But you cannot factor in the human element.
    he bragged. No other reason to say a word about it ever. If it was weighing on his conscience, he should've confessed. He's stupid. You can still blow him, just remember you're blowing a stupid, stupid man.

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    ^ Just because your vag / balls have never had enough in them to produce a child doesn't mean you need to be hatin on a guy who did.

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    I made that caveat in the OP. You're assuming wrongly.

    Thus i asked if you watched Mystic River. The vigilantes, thinking they killed a molester were completely wrong.
    Thus cold blooded murderers.
    This is still a premeditated cold blooded murder.

    I mean, he didn't even kill in the heat of the moment.

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    I don't care if it was justified. Your hero is objectively stupid. I'm not stopping you from getting on your knees and blowing that stupid man real good. Please continue .

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    This is still a premeditated cold blooded murder.

    I mean, he didn't even kill in the heat of the moment.
    ^Verified father of a daughter.

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    I don't care if it was justified.
    Summarizes your judgement entirely.

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    This is still a premeditated cold blooded murder.

    I mean, he didn't even kill in the heat of the moment.
    1. Yes.
    2. Oh no, it was heat of the moment. 1st time he saw trafficker since the original selling crime occurred.

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    1. Yes.
    2. Oh no, it was heat of the moment. 1st time he saw trafficker since the original selling crime occurred.
    Lol how can it be both cold and heated?

    He didn't just bump into him in the produce section. He actively sought him out. I mean, do you carry zip ties around too?

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    Summarizes your judgement entirely.
    His stupidity is a completely separate issue.

    He's stupid.

    His possibly being justified doesn't make him less stupid

    Why can't you just admit it?

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    1. Yes.
    2. Oh no, it was heat of the moment. 1st time he saw trafficker since the original selling crime occurred.
    Lol how can it be both cold and heated?

    He didn't just bump into him in the produce section. He actively sought him out. I mean, do you carry zip ties around too?
    It got very heated after I tracked down, stalked, abducted and immobilized the victim.

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    I just lost it when he got angry about the duck tape on his mouth

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    It got very heated after I tracked down, stalked, abducted and immobilized the victim.
    Are you blogging about the last party you attended?

    Lol how can it be both cold and heated?
    I mean, do you carry zip ties around too?
    I might carry zip ties if I'm tipped off Chump will be at the party.

    Yes by definition he premeditated the murder big time it appears.
    Perhaps initially he going to just beat the f out of the guy and scare him.
    Then when he saw him the perp in person adrenaline and revenge took over and Dad snapped.

    Yes it could have been and most likely was premeditated.

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    Do you believe in the justice system?
    Henry Ruggs of the Raiders is looking at only 2 to 20 years for being lit up and doing 156 MPH plowing into the back of a Toyota, killing the driver. Possibly by burning if the initial jolt did not kill her.

    2 ing years is possible. If he gets convicted.
    This coming after numb nutts Andy Reids son similarly plowed into a parked car while drunk.

    On the murder front, how about this guy doing 20? Julius Jones in good ole Oklahoma.

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    Are you blogging about the last party you attended?
    No, I'm mocking your "heat of the premeditated moment" defense, counselor.

    Dude was stupid and you've said nothing to prove otherwise.

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    No, I'm mocking your "heat of the premeditated moment" defense, counselor.

    Dude was stupid and you've said nothing to prove otherwise.
    He was stupid for bragging and stuff about it, but he killed a waste of carbon space and it was well deserved.

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    He was stupid for bragging and stuff about it, but he killed a waste of carbon space and it was well deserved.
    What if he killed the wrong guy

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    If you aren't willing to kill for family then you're not much of one tbh. Guarantee all the people saying they wouldn't have done it don't have a daughter in the first place or just have no spine. Josey Wales is rolling in his grave right now at you pussies
    I'm the most family guy you can find, having Italian ancestry and . I would understand this course of action if the daughter was killed or they still couldn't find her, or even if the bad dude would get away with some lenient .

    But no, this guy got the daughter back, she's going to need a support system around her, and he basically removed the family component from it. It's also a terrible lesson for the child.

    I'm obviously telling you this not being in that situation and the emotions that go through it, which is very different than being in those shoes, but realistically speaking the only guy that needed his life ruined was the perp, and instead we end up with both the father and the child likely getting their lives ed up as well.
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    Or sleaze ball trafficker could have gotten off scott free.
    Happens all the time.
    Ok, but then you go do your vigilante justice if you're still inclined.

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    2. Goalpost change from "He got caught because he murdered a guy and left the body in his fiancee's car for a year."
    We'll never know how long the car with the body would have continued to sit. Dumb if he wanted to get a way to leave the body there, yes. But made it a year and for all we know would have made it 10 more years if car had not been moved.
    It was dumb, Fabbs. The car was registered to his girlfriend. I mean, it's a ing direct link. Then he talks to his neighbor about it?

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    It was dumb, Fabbs. The car was registered to his girlfriend. I mean, it's a ing direct link. Then he talks to his neighbor about it?
    Oh ya he was horrible at coverup.
    It's why i wonder if his thinking on some level is he wanted to be found out.
    Felt it was a justifiable murder and would be viewed as such by law enforcement and the Kourt system.
    Wow, did he misjudge there.

    The neighbor, i dunno. For sure Dad should not have told him obviously. OTOH if he's been friendly with this guy for years and spoke with him on the regular about his daughter being kidnapped, maybe Dad felt comfortable confiding in him about wasting the POS.
    I won't rule out neighbor as a snitch Judas until more info comes in.

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    This is still a premeditated cold blooded murder.

    I mean, he didn't even kill in the heat of the moment.
    I don't know if that will convict him. The dude that shot his daughter's molester at an airport got off with a suspended sentence.
    Plus, if I remember right, he can still claim temporary insanity (or whatever is is) no matter how long the time was between the crime and the retaliation.

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    What if he killed the wrong guy
    in that case, and that case only, he'd be wrong.

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    I'm the most family guy you can find, having Italian ancestry and . I would understand this course of action if the daughter was killed or they still couldn't find her, or even if the bad dude would get away with some lenient .

    But no, this guy got the daughter back, she's going to need a support system around her, and he basically removed the family component from it. It's also a terrible lesson for the child.

    I'm obviously telling you this not being in that situation and the emotions that go through it, which is very different than being in those shoes, but realistically speaking the only guy that needed his life ruined was the perp, and instead we end up with both the father and the child likely getting their lives ed up as well.
    as long as the perp dies, I'm good with it

    Evil doers, especially pedos and people who hurt children/minors, deserve exactly zero legal protection. All bets are off.

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    This is still a premeditated cold blooded murder.

    I mean, he didn't even kill in the heat of the moment.
    quivering pink vagina, I hope you never have kids for the sake of such kids

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    quivering pink vagina, I hope you never have kids for the sake of such kids
    He's already raised a daughter.

    You actively plan to abandon your kids.

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