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You think Aaron Gordon can?
I was looking at highlights of Sochan from Baylor. It's interesting to see the difference in the jumpshots between that, and the video above.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLmn3MftMm8
At the 1:32 mark, he shoots a three. That form looks better. It actually looks Boris Diaw's with the release. They should work on doing that, instead of "reconstructing" his jumper. You don't want him to be the next Ben Simmons, without Ben Simmons' great start to his career, or his athleticism.
You think Aaron Gordon can?
Sochan would be a solid bench player. He's not a starter in today's NBA. The 80s, maybe even 90's, sure. Today, what a joke.
Sochan does not shoot well enough to be a useful NBA basketball player.
Sochan's jumpshot actually looked better out of Baylor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLmn3MftMm8
It starts at the 1:32 mark. His shot reminds me of Robert Horry's. If he can go back to that shot, instead of the abominable shot he is using today, I think he would a more effective, natural, and explosive NBA player.
That's mostly our whole team you are describing.
They said the same thing about Aaron Gordon.
Sochan still doesn’t shoot well enough to be a useful NBA player. And after a few more minutes go by, he still won’t.
This isn’t about his shooting percentage. Hes ing terrible, has no plan and just dribbles into people and throws up bs.
Comparing him to rookie Manu is ing laughable. Rookie Manu was a key piece to a le team. These idiot misses back to back bunnies and then rolls on the floor.
You are dead wrong.
I've been pretty critical of Sochan on here this season, and he'll obviously never be Manu. But these comparisons are dumb to begin with. Manu was a 25 year-old Rookie with 7 years of professional playing experience in Argentina and Europe under his belt when he got here. Sochan is still only 20 years old in his 2nd year out of college. Still way too early to give up on him. His lack of shooting definitely but the same can be said for the rest of the guys on this roster. He's shown considerable strides in that department already and if he can continue to improve on that, he definitely has a role in this league imo. I think getting a true PG/play-maker on this team would also result in a reduced role offensively for him, which would also help. So much of his offense is forced cause we have little-to-no playmakers on this team. I'll reserve my judgement for him after next season tbh. But aside from some really dumb plays from here and there, I think he's okay for now.
Sochan's OK if you want to win fewer than 20 games.
He's a big reason the team has the record they have. He has no business as a starter getting starter's minutes.
He also hasn't improved his shooting since last year, almost identical stats.
I don't know how he got the reputation as a defensive specialist because I don't really see it. Every time I tune in to the Spurs, I see him getting torched by his defensive assignment. And then you have ers on here and Spur reddit wanting to compare him to rookie/sop re Kawhi...someone who actually did lock down his opponents.
EPM doesn't really grade him as an elite defender either. He's a +0.2 on defense which has him around 152nd in the NBA...below even guys who are considered weak defenders like Sengun. Compare that to Victor who's +3.4(4th in the entire league). What's worse is his putrid offense which makes him an overall net negative player.
It'd probably be unpopular, but I'd offer Sochan + a couple 2nd's to indy for Jarace Walker. Walker doesn't seem like a fit there...
Would they take Keldon instead? Asking for a friend.
Sheeeet, I'd do Keldon plus Branham. Don't they love offensive players?
He has length vs guards, can be a pest with his stamina and agressive on the boards. He’s just not very regular and sometimes when some players have a bad game like Luka a few days ago, many are too quick to attribute it to Sochan’s defense.
imo he’s worth the wait and development at least one more season, who knows, we’ve seen surprising improvements in the past, but he can’t be a starter and shooting that much (12 yesterday!) with that many offensive limitations.
Last night he missed a lot of point blank layups. To me, those are shots everyone has to take. But yeah, his shooting was awful. I'd say he avoided taking more shots that were given to him. He may be already be getting the Giddey Treatment.
I'd offer Sochan and a first for Naz Reid. , even two weaker firsts, he'd be well worth it.
He should be the #1 target in the summer because he's a perfect fit regardless of how PATFO wants to build around Wemby.
Minnesota has $180M guaranteed payroll for the next season with McDaniels and Edwards contracts kicking in and Naz will be on an expiring deal.
They have no way of offering him an extension.
Since KAT went down, he's at 19ppg in 28 minutes, 43% from 3pt at 7 attempts per game. And those numbers are in line for what he's been doing all season long.
He's a very good defender, both man and team. His passing instincts are also way better than Jeremy's and he's got more size. He can easily play the backup C if needed.
He'll definitely want a starting role, he's turning 25 before the next season starts and I don't see a single legitimate concern in his game.
Wemby, Naz, Barlow/Bassey and our bigs rotation is sorted for the foreseeable future.
I'd be legitimately upset if he goes anywhere else because Spurs are a perfect fit and he'd get the well deserved starting role.
And it would barely impact our stash of assets.
He’s 100% in every team’s scouting reports before each game.
It seems the game still hasn’t slowed down for him, he’s still too often in reaction, focused on his plan A and lost when looking for plan B
he’s still only 20 so it’ll get better but he needs to have a decent shot otherwise he’ll always be a liability despite what he can bring on defense
Naz Reid is going to be THE target for every contender next summer, he’s having a great season. I could see the wolves making sacrifices to keep him as well
That would be a dream tbh
Contenders don't have assets and cap space.
He's going to want to sign an extension the next summer, very few teams can offer 20-25M a year that's his fair value.
And a lot of contenders don't need a PF.
It would be between us an OKC, most likely.
Let’s hope then
Reid and/or Herb Jones would amazing
Reid should be a hot commodity in the trade market. I'd love him here..
i like!!!!
Edit, oops sorry I didn't mean to quote you yet again, I just happened to clicked on the best looking post in the discussion LOL.
At the apologists grasping at straws in a desperate attempt to defend this scrub.
One "good" 1st should do it. Besides, as bad as Sochan is, we all know they're not trading him. Turning him into the third big (and by extension, Collins the fourth) should be high on the agenda this off season though.
Reid is about as good a theoretical fit next to Wembanyama as exists in the league.
Unfortunately, you're right that he'd be a perfect fit for the Thunder too, who can obviously outbid the Spurs.
Fortunately, they're almost as conservative as the Spurs and because they're already better than the Timberwolves, if the offers were even close, the Spurs would probably win out.
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