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    Salaun will be the pick if the Spurs get the Toronto pick.
    If you don't get Salaun, you can always go for Salaun lite, fellow Frenchman Pacome Dadiet, in the 2d round.

    Not a bad consolation prize.

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    Before this season Risacher was regularly seen as a top 5-10 pick. This was before anybody knew he could shoot. The underachieving of this class helps but the shooting growth has made him an easy #1 pick to me, since the spurs have no natural use for Sarr

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    If we’re saying 34% is above subpar shooting, then I guess Risacher is your guy. This will be a fun thread to go back to in coming years. Spurstalk’s latest golden child after Bertans, Poku before him tbh.

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    If we’re saying 34% is above subpar shooting, then I guess Risacher is your guy. This will be a fun thread to go back to in coming years. Spurstalk’s latest golden child after Bertans, Poku before him tbh.
    Bertans was never his tier of player. He was DAF’s baby tho.

    i always like Bertans, so I’m not trying to distance myself from him. Risacher is just much more well rounded. Bertans was an awesome shooter who had enough juice to beat some closeouts. But he couldn’t really handle the ball, and couldn’t defend any position. Risacher is a much more comfortable ball handler and defends well. Overseas Bertans flashed here and there with some athletic weakside blocks but that was never a thing for him in the nba

    he’s also shooting 42% from 3 on the season still, if you combine is LNB and Eurocup games

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    Before this season Risacher was regularly seen as a top 5-10 pick. This was before anybody knew he could shoot. The underachieving of this class helps but the shooting growth has made him an easy #1 pick to me, since the spurs have no natural use for Sarr
    Sarr is the number 1 pick. Highest upside player. Wemby can play with any talented frontline player.

    Foolish Spurstalk idea that Wemby can't play with Sarr and yet believe Sochan and Wemby are a good fit.
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    Sarr is the number 1 pick. Highest upside player. Wemby can play with any talented frontline player.

    Foolish Spurstalk idea that Wemby can't play with Sarr and yet believe Sochan and Wemby are a good fit.
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    If you don't get Salaun, you can always go for Salaun lite, fellow Frenchman Pacome Dadiet, in the 2d round.

    Not a bad consolation prize.
    Yeah, I like him more then Ajinca as I think he is a better defender and better upside potential but I see him as a SF and Salaun is definitely a PF in the NBA. Another kid I am starting to really like is Nikola Dkurisic - SG-6'7

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    Sarr is the number 1 pick. Highest upside player. Wemby can play with any talented frontline player.

    Foolish Spurstalk idea that Wemby can't play with Sarr and yet believe Sochan and Wemby are a good fit.
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    im not a big sochan believer

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    Sarr is the number 1 pick. Highest upside player. Wemby can play with any talented frontline player.

    Foolish Spurstalk idea that Wemby can't play with Sarr and yet believe Sochan and Wemby are a good fit.
    Wemby can play with Sarr. He also can play with Castle, your other boy. Problem is, Wemby CAN'T play with either Castle/Sarr AND Sochan AND Wesley AND Barlow AND Cissoko, you can't have your entire developmental crew be challenged shooters because you can't develop them all at once. If the Spurs really believe one of Sarr / Castle (or Topic / Buzelis / Holland / Collier) is clearly the best prospect available, then by all means they should take him, but they have to make other moves immediately to accomodate him by moving others, and that is only worth if you think the gap is large. If not, then it's probably better to just take your chances with the non shooting challenged prospects, and continue to work on the young guys already on your roster. Personally, I'd only consider taking a non shooter if we have 2 lottery picks and take a shooter with the other, and only if he's far and above the rest and has promise to put it together eventually. My candidate for that is Buzelis (skilled and shot about 40% in HS), but I have a feeling the Spurs will prioritize Castle.

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    Sarr is the number 1 pick. Highest upside player. Wemby can play with any talented frontline player.

    Foolish Spurstalk idea that Wemby can't play with Sarr and yet believe Sochan and Wemby are a good fit.
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    Don’t want to put words in your mouth, but just wanted to clarify - if another team offered the number 1 or 2 pick for sochan and the spurs’ own pick, you do that in a second right?

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    Don’t want to put words in your mouth, but just wanted to clarify - if another team offered the number 1 or 2 pick for sochan and the spurs’ own pick, you do that in a second right?
    Not to put words in rascal's mouth, but he'd probably ship out Sochan for a burger and a diet coke.

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    Bertans was never his tier of player. He was DAF’s baby tho.

    i always like Bertans, so I’m not trying to distance myself from him. Risacher is just much more well rounded. Bertans was an awesome shooter who had enough juice to beat some closeouts. But he couldn’t really handle the ball, and couldn’t defend any position. Risacher is a much more comfortable ball handler and defends well. Overseas Bertans flashed here and there with some athletic weakside blocks but that was never a thing for him in the nba

    he’s also shooting 42% from 3 on the season still, if you combine is LNB and Eurocup games
    Before his hot streak, he was a 34% shooter and ~70% FT shooter. After his hot streak, he was a 34% and 70% FT shooter. Not sure why the fluky 40% 3pt shooting is more believable than the numbers he posted before and after.

    I found this somewhere else but it was said that players who hovered around 70% FT shooting and had a streak of high 3PT shooting were the following players: Davion Mitc , Markelle Fultz, Derrick Williams.

    For someone who has been high on this guy for awhile, I wish you’d (along with mo) watch the 2 hour video I posted because there’s no way in anyone should think this guy is comfortable handling the ball. His little behind the back move he does every now and then is barely in his control and is a turnover waiting to happen in the NBA. A 2 hour video of your favorite prospect is the same length as one of the train wreck Spurs games you watched this year. You have time for that.

    There’s a reason why he barely attacks close outs and settles for a contested 3 or step back 3’s… it’s because he has little creativity with his handle. He does a straight line drive most of the time and when he’s met with a body, he’s forced to put it up at a bad angle because he can’t handle the physicality.
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    I mean sure you could choose to throw out 17 games of a 46 game sample size. I question how helpful that is.

    our current placeholder three point specialist starting SF just hit under 37% of his 3s for the season btw

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    This draft is such a crapshoot.

    Here's an off the beaten path thought, do one of our division rivals grab Edey to combat Wemby?
    I'm not saying it's a smart idea, but, these things do happen. Seems like Houston or maybe OKC would do this.

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    I mean sure you could choose to throw out 17 games of a 46 game sample size. I question how helpful that is.

    our current placeholder three point specialist starting SF just hit under 37% of his 3s for the season btw
    That’s disingenuous (just like your funny post in the other thread ) . I clearly said before his hot streak, which includes the other years he played pro. 85+ game sample size.

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    Yeah, I like him more then Ajinca as I think he is a better defender and better upside potential but I see him as a SF and Salaun is definitely a PF in the NBA. Another kid I am starting to really like is Nikola Dkurisic - SG-6'7
    Could totally see Djurisic as a draft and stash pick for SA

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    I like the block.

    As to the going the other way then the layup, incredibly pussified D by the opponent.

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    Wow that is some impressive open court burst on the track down block by Risacher

    Watching MPJ during the Nuggets playoffs kinda has me envisioning that role from Risacher in SA as an ideal to work towards

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    This draft is such a crapshoot.

    Here's an off the beaten path thought, do one of our division rivals grab Edey to combat Wemby?
    I'm not saying it's a smart idea, but, these things do happen. Seems like Houston or maybe OKC would do this.
    OKC grabbing Edey is my worst nightmare for this reason. Wemby isnt going to put on 50 pounds of muscle we need a solid strong big center to help him out

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    Lottery is in two weeks (Sunday May 12th) and it's interesting to note that Spurs and Raptors pick influence each other.

    There are 5 possible outcomes for Spurs:

    1) 21% likelihood: Spurs got a top 4 pick and a pick in the #7 to #9 range (#9 being unlikely).

    2) 21% likelihood: Spurs got only a top 4 pick.

    3) 33% likelihood: Spurs got two consecutive picks between #6 and #9 (most likely cases being #6+#7 and #7+#8).

    4) 23% likelihood: Spurs got only one pick between #6 and #9 (getting #6 or #7 being the most likely).

    5) 2% likelihood: Spurs got only pick #5.


    Math was done quickly but it should be right with a 1% or 2% margin of error.
    To me, the first 3 cases would be fine for Spurs. There are a 75% odd that the lottery end up with a positive outcome for Spurs.

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    Sarr is the number 1 pick. Highest upside player. Wemby can play with any talented frontline player.

    Foolish Spurstalk idea that Wemby can't play with Sarr and yet believe Sochan and Wemby are a good fit.
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    Before his hot streak, he was a 34% shooter and ~70% FT shooter. After his hot streak, he was a 34% and 70% FT shooter. Not sure why the fluky 40% 3pt shooting is more believable than the numbers he posted before and after.

    I found this somewhere else but it was said that players who hovered around 70% FT shooting and had a streak of high 3PT shooting were the following players: Davion Mitc , Markelle Fultz, Derrick Williams.

    For someone who has been high on this guy for awhile, I wish you’d (along with mo) watch the 2 hour video I posted because there’s no way in anyone should think this guy is comfortable handling the ball. His little behind the back move he does every now and then is barely in his control and is a turnover waiting to happen in the NBA. A 2 hour video of your favorite prospect is the same length as one of the train wreck Spurs games you watched this year. You have time for that.

    There’s a reason why he barely attacks close outs and settles for a contested 3 or step back 3’s… it’s because he has little creativity with his handle. He does a straight line drive most of the time and when he’s met with a body, he’s forced to put it up at a bad angle because he can’t handle the physicality.
    Do you think he could get to MPJ level of a player? I don't really pretend to be a scout. But lets say that he does improve his shooting and his hot streak becomes near the norm. Lets say a 39% shooter from deep. Does he have the rebounding capability and want to on defense? Is there some dawg in him that doesn't mind doing the dirty work? Or is he just a finesse player?

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    Do you think he could get to MPJ level of a player? I don't really pretend to be a scout. But lets say that he does improve his shooting and his hot streak becomes near the norm. Lets say a 39% shooter from deep. Does he have the rebounding capability and want to on defense? Is there some dawg in him that doesn't mind doing the dirty work? Or is he just a finesse player?
    Tbh I feel that’s his archetype. Like a MPJ-lite or a Jabari Smith-lite. Some have said Brandon Miller but Brandon Miller plays nothing like MPJ and Jabari.

    The problem is, I think that if let’s say MPJ was traded to the Spurs last season, the season wouldn’t have played out different. MPJ plays off of multiple playmakers and we barely have one. He’d see his play decrease and we’d all be calling for his head. MPJ is the most replaceable player on that Nuggets team, IMO. This is part of why I’m low on Risacher.

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    Tbh I feel that’s his archetype. Like a MPJ-lite or a Jabari Smith-lite. The problem is, I think that if let’s say MPJ was traded to the Spurs last season, the season wouldn’t have played out different. MPJ plays off of multiple playmakers and we barely have one. He’d see his play decrease and we’d all be calling for his head. MPJ is the most replaceable player on that Nuggets team, IMO. This is part of why I’m low on Risacher.
    Are people comparing him to MPJ just because of his height or?
    MPJ is a low IQ wing. This is the first season where his decision making has looked solid.
    Because of his non-existant fundamentals, he was always a subpar defender despite his size and athleticism.
    He's averaging 13 shots in the past two seasons and is barely over 1 assist per game in Denver's fluid system. For comparison, Gordon is at 3.5.

    He's not good at anything other than shooting and easy cuts when Jokic sets everything up.
    Obviously having an elite 6'10 shooter is invaluable in the modern NBA, but when his shot is not falling, it often gets ugly. It's just that Denver has no depth.


    I haven't seen that much of Risacher, but isn't he projected to be a good defender and a good team player, with his shot being the biggest question mark?

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