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Atlanta asking for what the spurs got in return for murray is like a middle aged lower class person buying a new car with a payment and trying to return it 6 months later, not realizing its value is now 1/3rd.
^ I kinda think Klutch is using the Spurs “interest” as a marker for other teams, which is consistent with WOJ’s tweet. Basically they want what they paid for him back
Atlanta asking for what the spurs got in return for murray is like a middle aged lower class person buying a new car with a payment and trying to return it 6 months later, not realizing its value is now 1/3rd.
Nets- Graham + Doug + Toronto 1st + Chi 1st + 2024 LA 2nd
Spurs- Cameron Johnson
Of course, this only comes after the Nets move Bridges and go full in tank..
Nets cant go into full tank.
If they can get their picks back from Houston by moving Bridges there, they can. This idea 'assumes' that happening..
Got it. Yeah, I don't think Houston is going to do it, though. I do think Brooklyn needs to move one or two of their SFs.
Another idea- Helping get DJ out of Atlanta
Lakers- Keldon Johnson + DJ
Spurs- Reaves + Russell
Atlanta- Graham + Prince + Cha 1st + LA 2029 1st
Honestly, I don't like moving KJ for Reaves, which this essentially is, but having DJ off of Atlanta for no real players should help the value of our Atlanta picks...
I agree that Houston probably doesn't do it, but ownership there is pretty erratic... so while it's not likely, I wouldn't be shocked either..
They shouldn't expend draft capital until lead creator is settled. If they luck into it in the draft first, then it can be spent on a role player(s).
Even then, Johnson is too injury prone.
Also, Russell will never be a Spur.
Russell is just salary ballast
Idk why would they include us in that trade. Lakers don't want to give up Reaves and Hawks want him.
If Lakers let go and trade Reaves, he's not going to a third team.
Too bad Sean Marks wants 12 FRPs for Royce O’Neal. Imagine the cost for Johnson!
I know, but still.
even role players these days require trades.
There are a lot of teams in Europe.
Killian Hayes
Kai Jones
I’m making a list of nobodies who have demanded trades. Am I missing anyone so far?
F it: send us Hayes and Wiseman for Graham.
FIFY
Then cut both of them so as to not waste roster spots on useless bull , and then up Barlow to a full NBA contract so he can play every night.
I wouldn't necessarily do all of these and obviously it's impossible to know the precise price point, but they could make sense in the off season for the needle the Spurs should try to thread . . .
Collins, Jones, Craptors, Bulls, Hawks '26 swap and unprotected '27 1sts for Young (if he requests trade and Spurs are on his list) and Capela.
Johnson, Craptors and Bulls 1sts for D. White (in unlikely event he doesn't extend).
Graham, Branham, Craptors and Bulls 1sts for C. White.
Johnson, Jones, Craptors, Bulls and Hornets 1sts for Garland (if Mitc signals he will re-sign).
Johnson, Branham, Craptors, Bulls, Hornets and Hawks unprotected '27 1sts for Mitc (if he signals he won't re-sign and Spurs are on his list).
Graham, Branham, Craptors and Bulls 1sts for Simons.
Graham, Branham and either Craptors or Bulls 1st for Sexton.
" Johnson, Craptors and Bulls 1sts for D. White (in unlikely event he doesn't extend).
Graham, Branham, Craptors and Bulls 1sts for C. White.
Johnson, Jones, Craptors, Bulls and Hornets 1sts for Garland (if Mitc signals he will re-sign).
Johnson, Branham, Craptors, Bulls, Hornets and Hawks unprotected '27 1sts for Mitc (if he signals he won't re-sign and Spurs are on his list).
Graham, Branham, Craptors and Bulls 1sts for Simons.
Graham, Branham and either Craptors or Bulls 1st for Sexton."
I'd be pretty pleased with any one of these..
Most of those are overpays, and I think you're undervaluing the picks, especially Toronto and Chicago. It would be preferable to offer future Spurs' pick with protections, in most cases. Also I would wait until the summer of '25 for a big spash, there's a big chance Donovan Mitc , Lauri Markkanen, Derrick White are UFAs, so that would lower the price and it's only one year ahead.
I like the Coby White idea, but it should he noted he's so underpaid he likely won't extend on his current contract, so eventually he'll become a FA (with Bird rights though).
Can Zollins do the same then?
The only way you can get teams to consider trading players that they probably aren't interested in trading and don't have a looming deadline to, is to overpay a la the Spurs with Murray.
The Spurs have the draft equity to do so, especially considering out of the non stars (Mitc and Young), they wouldn't be touching any of their best ones.
Relying on star players to get to free agency in this era is a fool's errand.
Spurs need a veteran point guard, not some draftee that may or mynot be something in 3-4 years. I'd rather see them trade for one and then go after something else in the draft. Wemby needs another star or 2 with him and that's probably not going to be found in the draft anytime soon
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