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  1. #91
    Retired Ray xrayzebra's Avatar
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    that's a perfect example of how antiquated neocons have become.
    Your post makes absolutely no sense. antiquated. That
    was a fact. And it is a fact, terrorist do not wear uniforms
    and people in civilian clothes caught in their situation
    are still considered involved in espionage under
    international norms. Get real in your arguments.
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    I love J.T. smeagol's Avatar
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    Has anybody thought a better solution than total anhiliation?

    I haven't.
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    boutons commenting on the quoting-box is like Bruce Bowen commenting on dunking.
    It takes as much effort to start or post in a thread as it does to squeeze out a fart.

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    Your post makes absolutely no sense. antiquated. That
    was a fact. And it is a fact, terrorist do not wear uniforms
    and people in civilian clothes caught in their situation
    are still considered involved in espionage under
    international norms. Get real in your arguments.
    that's the point ray. their theory of military action no longer exist in this theater. go to a movie house, the drive-in is dead.

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    "Have to check the film" PixelPusher's Avatar
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    Is there a Darfur Genocide Awareness Week? And if so, what would Yoni and the Iraquettes suggest we do about THAT? I'm guessing...

    Exactly what we're doing.
    ...which is not a goddamn thing.
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    Is there a Darfur Genocide Awareness Week? And if so, what would Yoni and the Iraquettes suggest we do about THAT? I'm guessing...



    ...which is not a goddamn thing.
    I'd like to end that shit.

    No oil there.

    What a strange coincidence.
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    I'd be in favor of systematically assassinating the leaders and supporters of the Janjaweed until they stop their killling, destroying their command and control structures with Tomahawk missiles, etc...

    Unfortunately, the left is opposed to black ops. They'd rather we send in our best and brightest into the middle of an intractable genocide where both sides are so desperate we'd have no ally.
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    this is not a sig ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    Since when are Tomahawk missiles black ops?
    They'd rather we send in our best and brightest into the middle of an intractable genocide where both sides are so desperate we'd have no ally.
    Add another few sides and you have Iraq.
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    "Have to check the film" PixelPusher's Avatar
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    I'd be in favor of systematically assassinating the leaders and supporters of the Janjaweed until they stop their killling, destroying their command and control structures with Tomahawk missiles, etc...
    Tomahawk missles? How very Clintonian of you.

    Unfortunately, the left is opposed to black ops. They'd rather we send in our best and brightest into the middle of an intractable genocide where both sides are so desperate we'd have no ally.
    If it is an intractable genocide, then offing a couple of chief-du-jours isn't going to stop it. But it's all academic anyway; our best and brightest are already booked in a desperate, intractable clusterfuck.

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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    Lets see, we have:
    ElNono
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    clambake
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    that a military man can depend on.
    But, as an ex-military person, I don't think I will. I know
    they will support me, but not my mission.

    Don't you just feel the warmth of their love for the American
    Solider. And the compassion for the women of the ME. I
    know I do.
    So... moving past the rhetoric, and personal attacks that distract us from the main topic of conversation... do you actually support the 'bad' soldiers that executed innocent people? Where do you stand on that? (and please, I could not care less what you think about me or anybody else in this forum, so you can save the personal attacks until you run out of intelligent things to say ...)

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    I'd be in favor of systematically assassinating the leaders and supporters of the Janjaweed until they stop their killling, destroying their command and control structures with Tomahawk missiles, etc...

    Unfortunately, the left is opposed to black ops. They'd rather we send in our best and brightest into the middle of an intractable genocide where both sides are so desperate we'd have no ally.
    If you want to go for the head, we could start by trying to find Bin Laden, blackops or not. I mean, it's been 6 years and counting...

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    So... moving past the rhetoric, and personal attacks that distract us from the main topic of conversation... do you actually support the 'bad' soldiers that executed innocent people? Where do you stand on that? (and please, I could not care less what you think about me or anybody else in this forum, so you can save the personal attacks until you run out of intelligent things to say ...)
    decades too late Nono, decades

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    If you want to go for the head, we could start by trying to find Bin Laden, blackops or not. I mean, it's been 6 years and counting...
    Maybe we already have.

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    "Have to check the film" PixelPusher's Avatar
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    Maybe we already have.
    Well, we certainly wouldn't want to report or confirm that to the public, now would we?

    I'd be in favor of systematically assassinating the leaders and supporters of (EDIT) Al Qaeda until they stop their killling, destroying their command and control structures with Tomahawk missiles, etc...
    Yep...Saddam, Zarkawi...once OBL is added to that list it will stop islamic terrorism dead in it's tracks.

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    this is not a sig ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    Maybe we already have.
    So mission accomplished. He wasn't in Iraq?

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    dubya and dickhead have taken the high road, keeping America's Beacon of Civilization shining brightly



    General claims Bush gave 'marching orders' on aggressive interrogation at Guantanamo

    10/22/2007 @ 1:34 pm

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    New book says US uses 'methods of the most tyrannical regimes'

    More than 100,000 pages of newly released government documents demonstrate how US military interrogators "abused, tortured or killed" scores of prisoners rounded up since Sept. 11, 2001, including some who were not even suspected of having terrorist ties, according to a just-published book.

    In Administration of Torture, two American Civil Liberties Union attorneys detail the findings of a years-long investigation and court battle with the administration that resulted in the release of massive amounts of data on prisoner treatment and the deaths of US-held prisoners.

    "[T]he documents show unambiguously that the administration has adopted some of the methods of the most tyrannical regimes," write Jameel Jaffer and Amrit Singh. "Documents from Guantanamo describe prisoners shackled in excruciating 'stress positions,' held in freezing-cold cells, forcibly stripped, hooded, terrorized with military dogs, and deprived of human contact for months."

    Most of the documents on which Administration of Torture is based were obtained as a result of ongoing legal fights over a Freedom of Information Act request filed in October 2003 by the ACLU and other human rights and anti-war groups, the ACLU said in a news release.

    The documents show that prisoner abuse like that found at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq was hardly the isolated incident that the Bush administration or US military claimed it was. By the time the prisoner abuse story broke in mid-2004 the Army knew of at least 62 other allegations of abuse at different prisons in Iraq and Afghanistan, the authors report.

    Drawing almost exclusively from the documents, the authors say there is a stark contrast between the public statements of President Bush and then-Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and the policies those and others in the administration were advocating behind the scenes.

    President Bush gave "marching orders" to Gen. Michael Dunlavey, who asked the Pentagon to approve harsher interrogation methods at Guantanamo, the general claims in documents reported in the book.

    The ACLU also found that an Army investigator reported Rumsfeld was "personally involved" in overseeing the interrogation of a Guantanamo prisoner Mohammed al Qahtani. The prisoner was forced to parade naked in front of female interrogators wearing women's underwear on his head and was led around on a leash while being forced to perform dog tricks.

    “It is imperative that senior officials who authorized, endorsed, or tolerated the abuse and torture of prisoners be held accountable," Jaffer and Singh write, "not only as a matter of elemental justice, but to ensure that the same crimes are not perpetrated again.”

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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    Maybe we already have.
    If you want to be taken seriously, you could start by actually backing up what you say with some kind of information/report/news.

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    If you want to be taken seriously, you could start by actually backing up what you say with some kind of information/report/news.
    Thanks.

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    "Have to check the film" PixelPusher's Avatar
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    If you want to be taken seriously, you could start by actually backing up what you say with some kind of information/report/news.
    Does plagiarizing wingnut blogs count?

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    MUSLIM GROUP Announces Support For Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week

    Good for them!

    As a part of "Islamofascism Awareness Week", Nonie Darwish spoke at U.C. Berkeley on October 22. As usual, Islamofascists and their Dhimmi supporters have shown their unwavering resolve to crush any type of dissent. One the members of the "Students for Justice in Palestine" claimed that the purpose of the "Islamofascism Awareness Week" is to reinvigorate anti-Muslim and anti-Arab campaign.

    Given the fact that the speaker, Nonie Darwish, is both Muslim by birth and Arab it truly shows the depth of brainwashing on campus.

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