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I could be dead wrong but I’m all the way out on Holland. He didn’t do all that great in the athletic testing for a player that is labeled as super athletic. I see low Basketball IQ player here. I’m not going to question is character but strictly basketball I think he could just be a bigger less...

I think the competitive edge and aggression he plays with are plusses that overcome the lack of skill or feel. There are better options at 4, but I like the swing at 8 if he's there.

Just spitballing but could it be possible the spurs have enough of a scouting report on the G-League ignite guys that they don’t work them out. If you don’t like them no need to work them out. If you do like them you can keep your cards close to the vest and not show other teams you are...

he's this drafts version of ausar thompson, albeit more confident in his jumper (for better or worse, tbh :lol). not quite the athlete of the thompson twins, but not too far off

And I'm gonna bookmark your ass when Cade inevitably makes the all-star in the not so distant future. For real son, you sound like stretch when he said Kawhi would never be more than a Shane Battier type player. :lol

23, 7.5, 4.5 at 22 fucking years old. How would I be in the minority thinking that guy can be an all-star? :lol Either way, no reason to keep arguing it because there is no way in hell the Pistons are trading their franchise player. "In the minority" GTFOH :lmao

i agree that i dont really see all star in risacher. he just seems like a fairly sure thing to be a good starter who plays a vital role for good teams. might not be a "defend the other team's best player and shut him down" type, but he's a willing and capable defender who knows how to play a...

Man, I’m going to bookmark this bitch for after Wemby, year 3, which is where Cade is now.

I agree that due to his freakish athletic ability in the open court and hard-nosed defense, if he ever figures out that jump shot, we could look back in 10 years and wonder how everyone passed on him. He could also be a knucklehead who never figures out his jumper and we’ll mock whoever drafted him...

Never happens, for several reasons. NBA teams are really sour on Ignite players, having seen the duds. Buzelis has very few avenues to be picked in the top 4. In addition, if he were, there’s no way that Sheppard or Castle lasts to #8.

Same could be said of Wemby this season. A 6'6" point guard with all-star potential is PATFO's wet dream. I think it's worth it, tbh.

You’d be in a very small group.

I don't understand this at all. Why would Charlotte care so much about getting three second round picks?

He’s kind of proven that he isn’t even a floor raiser, let alone a ceiling raiser. I wouldn’t give him away, but a nice pick, or two meh picks should get the job done.

Applies to Zacharrie too. :lol I can't help but see UNC Harrison Barnes in Risacher. Good shooter, good defender, suspect handles, no playmaking. Hopefully hits the high end of his projection as opposed to Barnes who never ended up the player he looked like he could become at UNC.

Adding Keldon to trade up 3 spots is a massive overpay, but giving CHA their pick back, and maybe 35, should do it.

moving up to wind up with riscaher + sheppard

Combining intel from this latest ESPN mock and the previous one and reading between the lines, the Spurs’ big board appears to be: 1. Risacher 2. Sheppard 3. Castle 4. Dillingham 5. Knecht 6. Williams 7. Salaun 8. Topic

Look at the Dumper. Gettin' his conversationals on with CC no less. You look pisser, Dumps.

ah, my bad. when bb said "tops out as a good starter" in the draft thread i assumed it was about risacher :lol

I don't see Detroit giving up 5 for Keldon, tbh.

Definitely have been keeping tabs on the PG situation there and all the shake up, but as much as I want Cade I think he’s still viewed as their foundation piece. BUT they have a big decision on him with his extension soon, so that’s another thing to watch for.

Yea he’s not falling to 8. I doubt he falls past Detroit at 5 tbh. Charlotte at 6 would be the lowest I could see him going. He’s one of the few prospects in this weaker draft with real upside. Spurs would have to nab him at 4 if they wanted him, and I just don’t see them taking him over Castle or...

I don’t know why his defense is a “sure thing”. He wasn’t some shut down defender in his league, metrics don’t show that his team was better with him defensively than without, the players he was tasked to defend weren’t players with great one on one ability. The basis for this is he’d sometimes...

My dream is yours with the top 4 then move Keldon+8 to Detroit for 5 so they can take Castle #5. Can't imagine either of Castle or Sheppard falling to 8. Sheppard seems like a no-brainer for Detroit at 5 and Castle for Charlotte at 6 on that draft board.

We're talking Cade Cunningham.

risacher/sheppard is my top combo, followed by risacher/dillingham, then sheppard/castle (im assuming holland is not part of the equation for the spurs) i dont like combos where castle is defaulted at PG tbh :lol

I read it the same way and it’s got to be poorly worded… there’s no way Sarr is putting it out there that he doesn’t want to go to Atlanta because they are pushing for playoff success and that’s too stressful :lol that would be unheard of for a top prospect.

They should never get even one of those picks/swaps back.

thought it was bertans but risacher was the chosen one after all!