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KoriEllis
09-29-2004, 03:07 AM
Bryant Told Police of O'Neal Payouts
July 2003 report says Laker alleged then-teammate bought women’s silence. Center’s agent denies it.

By Jeff Benedict, Tim Brown and Steve Henson | Special to The Times
Posted September 29, 2004

www.orlandosentinel.com/s...-headlines (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/nationworld/la-sp-bryant29sep29,1,369446.story?coll=orl-sports-headlines)

Hours after his sexual encounter with a hotel employee in Colorado, Kobe Bryant told investigators that Shaquille O'Neal, his Laker teammate at the time, had paid up to $1 million to women to keep them quiet about "situations like this," according to a police report.

An Eagle County, Colo., detective wrote in a report that Bryant made the comment near the end of a lengthy interrogation on July 2, 2003, about allegations that Bryant had raped the woman, then 19, in his resort hotel room.

O'Neal was informed of the comment last September, about two weeks before Laker training camp opened in Hawaii, when prosecution investigators made an unsuccessful attempt to question him. His agent, Perry Rogers, said Tuesday that the allegation in Bryant's statement was untrue and "undeserving of a response."

Much of Bryant's 75-minute interview was tape-recorded, but Det. Doug Winters wrote that the reference to O'Neal came after his partner, Det. Dan Loya, had turned off the recorder.

The incident report, a portion of which was reviewed by the Los Angeles Times, is part of the sealed file in the criminal case that was brought against Bryant last year and dropped this month. A Colorado judge has a motion before him to unseal documents from the case.

"Bryant made a comment to us about what another teammate does in situations like these," Winters wrote. "Bryant stated he should have done what Shaq (Shaquille O'Neal) does. Bryant stated that Shaq would pay his women not to say anything. He stated Shaq has paid up to a million dollars already for situations like this. He stated he, Bryant, treats a woman with respect, therefore they shouldn't say anything."

In a closed court proceeding before the felony charge was dropped, Bryant's attorneys fought successfully to have the reference to O'Neal declared inadmissible at trial, according to a prosecution source.

It is unclear precisely what Bryant meant by the remarks attributed to him. There have been no published reports of O'Neal ever being accused of any sex crime. He was charged with misdemeanor battery in Orange County, Fla., in 1998 after a 23-year-old Walt Disney World employee claimed he grabbed her neck, but the case was dismissed in 2000. Rogers said Tuesday that he did not know whether O'Neal confronted Bryant about the comments before or during the 2003-04 season. Two members of last season's Laker team, reached by telephone, said they were unaware of Bryant's purported comments and that there had been no obvious change in a relationship that was strained for years.

"It didn't have any impact on the relationship," Rogers said, "because Shaquille had a very professional approach to his career there and because he has had an understanding of Kobe, Kobe's interests and Kobe's priorities. Kobe has historically been shown to be interested in one person and one person alone."

Bryant's agent and attorneys did not return calls seeking comment.

The reference was first reported by Sports Illustrated, which did not name O'Neal.

The remark attributed to Bryant figured in an effort last year by investigators to interview O'Neal in connection with the criminal case against his longtime teammate — an effort that ended in failure.

According to sources involved in the investigation, the authorities wanted to ask O'Neal about a party he hosted at his Orlando mansion on Thanksgiving 2002, when a 22-year-old waitress working at the gathering claimed Bryant had groped her. They also wanted any information O'Neal could offer about Bryant's behavior on road trips.

Under Colorado law, prosecutors can introduce evidence of conduct that shows a similar pattern of behavior. Prosecutors wanted the waitress to cooperate as a potential witness against Bryant, the sources said.

After initially calling prosecutors to tell her story, she declined to meet with prosecution investigator Ray Birch when he arrived in Orlando, according to relatives of the woman and sources involved in the investigation.

But prosecutors viewed her account of the night at O'Neal's house as too important to drop, so they dispatched Birch to Los Angeles in an attempt to interview the center.

He was joined by an investigator with the Los Angeles County district attorney's office. On Sept. 22, 2003, they called Rogers, who referred them to O'Neal's attorney, David Chesnoff. At first, Birch said in an interview, Chesnoff was reluctant to produce O'Neal.

In a phone conversation on Sept. 24, they read to Chesnoff the statement that Bryant had allegedly made about O'Neal.

"That's when we were sure we would get that interview," Birch said. "We showed him our hand, and he complimented us on our professionalism."

Investigators thought they had an agreement to meet O'Neal at 10 a.m. on Sept. 26 in the Los Angeles area, but the meeting never materialized. That night they finally reached Chesnoff, who told them it was not in O'Neal's best interest to participate in the investigation, Birch said.

Chesnoff said Tuesday that when he told O'Neal about the remarks attributed to Bryant, he did not seem agitated. "I was so impressed with his maturity and the intelligence with which he dealt with it," he said.

The effort to interview O'Neal came as the Lakers were beginning training camp for the 2003-04 NBA season, one in which they were championship favorites because of the acquisition of highly regarded veterans Karl Malone and Gary Payton.

ZStomp
09-29-2004, 06:37 AM
I have a feeling this happens a lot.

sportcamper1
09-29-2004, 12:00 PM
Wah... Wah... Wah....BUT Shaq Does It Too!!!!
:cry :cry :cry :cry :cry

Oiy Vey....Stop The Madness... :pc2

Medvedenko
09-29-2004, 12:43 PM
This is going to get really ugly....naming names....oh this is going to suck for Kobe...basically calling out teammate...does not look promising for a player trying to rebuild his credibility and trust with his current team.

sportcamper1
09-29-2004, 01:26 PM
This is going to get really ugly....naming names....oh this is going to suck for Kobe...

Especially when they get to the part where Shaqs attorneys contacted the Eagle County DA to express their objection to dropping the charges against Kobe.... :lol

exstatic
09-29-2004, 01:30 PM
Well, this explains a lot, like why after years of bickering, there finally HAD to be a divorce between Shaq and Kobe.

2Cleva
09-29-2004, 02:54 PM
Here is the original LA Times article with more details.

Bryant Told Police of O'Neal Payouts
July 2003 report says Laker alleged then-teammate bought women's silence. Center's agent denies it.


By Jeff Benedict, Tim Brown and Steve Henson, Special to The Times


Hours after his sexual encounter with a hotel employee in Colorado, Kobe Bryant told investigators that Shaquille O'Neal, his Laker teammate at the time, had paid up to $1 million to women to keep them quiet about "situations like this," according to a police report.

An Eagle County, Colo., detective wrote in a report that Bryant made the comment near the end of a lengthy interrogation on July 2, 2003, about allegations that Bryant had raped the woman, then 19, in his resort hotel room.

O'Neal was informed of the comment last September, about two weeks before Laker training camp opened in Hawaii, when prosecution investigators made an unsuccessful attempt to question him. His agent, Perry Rogers, said Tuesday that the allegation in Bryant's statement was untrue and "undeserving of a response."

Much of Bryant's 75-minute interview was tape-recorded, but Det. Doug Winters wrote that the reference to O'Neal came after his partner, Det. Dan Loya, had turned off the recorder.

The incident report, a portion of which was reviewed by the Los Angeles Times, is part of the sealed file in the criminal case that was brought against Bryant last year and dropped this month. A Colorado judge has a motion before him to unseal documents from the case.

"Bryant made a comment to us about what another teammate does in situations like these," Winters wrote. "Bryant stated he should have done what Shaq (Shaquille O'Neal) does. Bryant stated that Shaq would pay his women not to say anything. He stated Shaq has paid up to a million dollars already for situations like this. He stated he, Bryant, treats a woman with respect, therefore they shouldn't say anything."

In a closed court proceeding before the felony charge was dropped, Bryant's attorneys fought successfully to have the reference to O'Neal declared inadmissible at trial, according to a prosecution source.

It is unclear precisely what Bryant meant by the remarks attributed to him. There have been no published reports of O'Neal ever being accused of any sex crime.

He was charged with misdemeanor battery in Orange County, Fla., in 1998 after a 23-year-old Walt Disney World employee claimed he grabbed her neck, but the case was dismissed in 2000. Rogers said Tuesday that he did not know whether O'Neal confronted Bryant about the comments before or during the 2003-04 season. Two members of last season's Laker team, reached by telephone, said they were unaware of Bryant's purported comments and that there had been no obvious change in a relationship that was strained for years.

"It didn't have any impact on the relationship," Rogers said, "because Shaquille had a very professional approach to his career there and because he has had an understanding of Kobe, Kobe's interests and Kobe's priorities. Kobe has historically been shown to be interested in one person and one person alone."

Bryant's agent and attorneys did not return calls seeking comment.

The reference was first reported by Sports Illustrated, which did not name O'Neal.

The remark attributed to Bryant figured in an effort last year by investigators to interview O'Neal in connection with the criminal case against his longtime teammate — an effort that ended in failure.

According to sources involved in the investigation, the authorities wanted to ask O'Neal about a party he held at his Orlando, Fla., mansion on Thanksgiving 2002, when a 22-year-old waitress working at the gathering claimed Bryant had groped her. They also wanted any information O'Neal could offer about Bryant's behavior on road trips.

Under Colorado law, prosecutors can introduce evidence of conduct that shows a similar pattern of behavior. Prosecutors wanted the waitress to cooperate as a potential witness against Bryant, the sources said.

After initially calling prosecutors to tell her story, she declined to meet with prosecution investigator Ray Birch when he arrived in Orlando, according to relatives of the woman and sources involved in the investigation.

But prosecutors viewed her account of the night at O'Neal's house as too important to drop, so they dispatched Birch to Los Angeles in an attempt to interview the center.

He was joined by an investigator with the Los Angeles County district attorney's office. On Sept. 22, 2003, they called Rogers, who referred them to O'Neal's attorney, David Chesnoff. At first, Birch said in an interview, Chesnoff was reluctant to produce O'Neal.

In a phone conversation on Sept. 24, they read to Chesnoff the statement that Bryant had allegedly made about O'Neal.

"That's when we were sure we would get that interview," Birch said. "We showed him our hand, and he complimented us on our professionalism."

Investigators thought they had an agreement to meet O'Neal at 10 a.m. on Sept. 26 in the Los Angeles area, but the meeting never materialized. That night they finally reached Chesnoff, who told them it was not in O'Neal's best interest to participate in the investigation, Birch said.

Chesnoff said Tuesday that when he told O'Neal about the remarks attributed to Bryant, he did not seem agitated. "I was so impressed with his maturity and the intelligence with which he dealt with it," he said.

The effort to interview O'Neal came as the Lakers were beginning training camp for the 2003-04 NBA season, one in which they were championship favorites because of the acquisition of highly regarded veterans Karl Malone and Gary Payton.

However, the season was filled with controversy and ended in disappointment, with the Lakers losing in the finals to the Detroit Pistons. O'Neal requested a trade and was sent to the Miami Heat, and Coach Phil Jackson departed. Bryant remained a Laker, signing a seven-year, $136-million contract in July despite the uncertainty of the criminal case.

Friction between Bryant and O'Neal was a constant in their eight Laker seasons. Even before they played a regular-season game together, O'Neal began calling Bryant "Showboat" and "Hollywood."

O'Neal slapped Bryant during a pickup game in January 1999, and later that season the 7-foot-1 center would point across the locker room and tell reporters that Bryant was the team's problem.

For his part, Bryant seemed perplexed at O'Neal's attitude toward him. "It can't be a personality thing, because I really don't know the guy that much," Bryant said at the time. "I don't really hang around him that much."

The two superstars set their egos aside long enough to lead the Lakers to three consecutive NBA championships, beginning in 2000. O'Neal even acknowledged Bryant's contribution, saying, "I think he's the best player in the league. By far." Bryant said he was shocked by the comments.

The sniping and backbiting began anew last fall, however. Bryant was one day late to training camp, but O'Neal dismissed his absence, saying, "The full team is here." A few weeks later, O'Neal suggested that Bryant become more of a passer than a scorer until he fully recovered from knee and shoulder surgeries.

Bryant was incensed, saying, "I definitely don't need advice on how to play my game."

Despite an edict by team officials that both players cease the sniping, Bryant went on a rant about O'Neal in an interview with ESPN and was fined $2,500.

All season, O'Neal knew of the comments that detectives claimed Bryant had said about him.

Said Rogers, O'Neal's agent: "It wasn't difficult to figure out that in this situation Kobe was a desperate man in a desperate situation and made desperate statements."


Link (http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-bryant29sep29,1,7901459.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-nba-lakers)



Notice the writer - Benedict is the guy of SI fame and loves to dig dirt on athletes in general. Facts need not always apply.

Aggie Hoopsfan
09-29-2004, 02:55 PM
A couple of things...

1. You know Shaq will be testifying in the civil case against Kobe.

2. Kobe better bring a 2x4 with him the first time he drives the lane against Miami, and even then I don't think it will matter.

baseline bum
09-29-2004, 03:06 PM
Man, I hope Shaq sends Kobe to the pine Derek Anderson style for that crap. Ratting your boy out is almost as bad as raping that chick.

Spurminator
09-29-2004, 03:12 PM
They're both douche bags. **** 'em.

ducks
09-29-2004, 05:19 PM
I bet shaq would get hit with a 5-10 game suspencen if he touches stern's boy

Aggie Hoopsfan
09-29-2004, 05:29 PM
I bet Shaq would glady take a 10 game vacation to deck Kobe's punk ass.

ducks
09-29-2004, 05:46 PM
yeah he would rather deck a player and miss 1/8 of a season for a personal reason and expect to get paid twice as much as anyone else in the nba

Medvedenko
09-29-2004, 06:31 PM
I guess new about this last year before training camp...the problem now is that everyone knows...oops....I'm still a Kobe fan, but you don't call out your boys...When's Phil Jackson's book coming out...it's chronicles last year with the Lakers...did this come up...

Useruser666
09-29-2004, 06:52 PM
What kind of penalty would Shaq get if Kobe went up for a dunk and Shaq swallowed him like a bullfrog?

Useruser666 :eyebrow

adidas11
09-29-2004, 09:00 PM
The difference between Shaq and David.

Shaq will NEVER let Kobe dunk on him. He'll go Flagrant 2 before that ever happens.

Kevin Kaster
09-29-2004, 09:51 PM
Shaq will get dunked on during the Christmas game. Bank on it.

E20
09-29-2004, 10:48 PM
No he won't bank on it.

Aggie Hoopsfan
09-29-2004, 11:01 PM
Shaq will get dunked on during the Christmas game. Bank on it.

There is no way in hell that Kobe will dunk on Shaq. Not on Christmas day, not the other time they meet, not for the next several years.

Shaq will take a flagrant to put his ass on the deck before he will let Kobe afront him.

2Cleva
09-30-2004, 10:32 AM
Hmm. It will be interesting. We all know Kobe will try. But I've yet to see Shaq ever try to lay the wood on anyone - even though I wished he would has a Laker fan.

IcemanCometh
09-30-2004, 10:29 PM
This explains alot about last year, how it all started off so badly in training camp.

Tacker
11-30-2009, 11:49 AM
Hahaha Kobe was a dick...

Ed Helicopter Jones
11-30-2009, 12:31 PM
Hey [unintelligent poster]...quit bumping old threads.

G-Nob
11-30-2009, 12:40 PM
Hey [unintelligent poster]...quit bumping old worthless threads.



fixed

carib
11-30-2009, 12:40 PM
Nothing to do with the way the Spurs are playing/Jelling