DeSagana Diop Back with the Mavs for Full MLE [Archive]

Mr.Bottomtooth

07-02-2008, 03:22 PM

Sources: Center Diop commits to Mavericks
By Marc Stein
Updated: July 2, 2008, 4:03 PM ET

Free-agent center DeSagana Diop on Tuesday gave a verbal commitment to sign a new contract to return to Dallas Mavericks, according to NBA front-office sources.

Sources told ESPN.com that Diop, traded by the Mavericks to New Jersey in February as part of the Jason Kidd deal, will receive the Mavericks' full mid-level exception in a five-year deal starting at nearly $6 million.

Diop cannot officially sign and the Mavericks cannot officially comment until July 9, which is the first day NBA teams can announce signings and trades after a league-wide moratorium on roster moves is lifted.

Diop was a key member of the Dallas team that toppled its in-state rivals from San Antonio and reached the 2006 NBA Finals. It was the franchise's first trip beyond the Western Conference finals.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3471169

Mr.Bottomtooth

07-02-2008, 03:22 PM

Props to Shank for breaking it.

xtremesteven33

07-02-2008, 03:22 PM

"Diop it like its hot"

Darkwaters

07-02-2008, 03:23 PM

Too rich for my blood. Not for Diop at least.

MoSpur

07-02-2008, 03:23 PM

I think that's a bit too much for a guy limited on offense. I wanted the Spurs to pick him up, but not for that much.

tp2021

07-02-2008, 03:23 PM

I don't think he's worth that much. He will help them though.

50 cent

07-02-2008, 03:25 PM

The entire MLE???

:lmao :lmao :lmao

timvp

07-02-2008, 03:25 PM

It was dumb trading him away like he was worthless. It's even dumber throwing the whole MLE at him to bring him back.

Darkwaters

07-02-2008, 03:25 PM

I don't think he's worth that much. He will help them though.

He'll definitely help them. But for a team as financially strapped as the Mavs I'd think they would have done something a bit more...frugal.

bigdog

07-02-2008, 03:26 PM

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

tp2021

07-02-2008, 03:27 PM

It was dumb trading him away like he was worthless. It's even dumber throwing the whole MLE at him to bring him back.

Word.

angelbelow

07-02-2008, 03:27 PM

It was dumb trading him away like he was worthless. It's even dumber throwing the whole MLE at him to bring him back.

:rollin:rollin

Bruno

07-02-2008, 03:27 PM

Full MLE for Diop is crazy.
I guess Mavs will be back to the defense first philosophy they had a couple of years ago.

Marcus Bryant

07-02-2008, 03:28 PM

One less potential landing spot for Maggette.

SenorSpur

07-02-2008, 03:28 PM

Cuban can't get out of his own way. :lol

I like Diop for his paint presence, but no way he's worth that much $$$.

timvp

07-02-2008, 03:30 PM

I wasn't even sold on Diop for the LLE because he's the second worst offensive player in the NBA behind Jason Collins. Damn good defender but he almost gives it all back on the other end.

SenorSpur

07-02-2008, 03:30 PM

Full MLE for Diop is crazy.
I guess Mavs will be back to the defense first philosophy they had a couple of years ago.

Assuming Diop cracks the starting lineup again for the Mavs, that will make 2 out of their 5 starters who can't shoot! (the other being Kidd)

timvp

07-02-2008, 03:31 PM

One less potential landing spot for Maggette.Good point :tu

Especially considering the Mavs could use a legit shooting guard.

Bruno

07-02-2008, 03:31 PM

I guess Diop and Dampier will have some locker room talks to wonder who has the most screwed Cuban. :)

brettn

07-02-2008, 03:32 PM

Imagine if the spurs sign maggette for the same price that the mavs are signing diop for. That'd be Suh-weet.

Spurs Brazil

07-02-2008, 03:36 PM

First Beno and now Diop

:lmao :lmao:lmao

That's why Kings and Mavs never won anything

Tully365

07-02-2008, 03:37 PM

That's crazy Rasho Nesterovic money!
But since money is not a great concern of Cuban's, I guess it's at least a move that keeps other teams from getting him. He is decent insurance against Oden, Bynum, Chandler...

50 cent

07-02-2008, 03:37 PM

Obstructed_View

07-02-2008, 03:37 PM

Time for Mavfan to go back and delete all those posts talking about how shitty Diop is...

Spur-Addict

07-02-2008, 03:38 PM

"Diop it like its hot"

:lmao

Obstructed_View

07-02-2008, 03:38 PM

What makes you think Maggette would sign for less money to play with the Spurs. Spurs cant afford him.

Just keep crying that into your pillow.

jack sommerset

07-02-2008, 03:43 PM

Chances are Kidd will only be there 1 year.Same with Eddie Jones,Jerry Stackhouse and that will clear space the following year. The FA market is very small this year. Basically I think they got Diop back because he is a good back up(6 mil is not that much in a year with noone) and it gets the gang back together for one more run. You are really looking at the team that went to the finals in 2006 with Kidd instead of Harris and of course Avery is gone. That can only be a good thing.

I do think if they get the right deal Howard could be traded but the offer will have to be good considering in my opinion they gave up to much for Kidd. Especially those 2 first round draft choices. So dumb.

Findog

07-02-2008, 03:44 PM

Time for Mavfan to go back and delete all those posts talking about how shitty Diop is...

Nobody ever said he was shitty, just a decent defender with no offensive game. You Spurs fans elevated him into the second coming of Bill Russell after being giddy over the Kidd trade. Given how well the Kidd acquisition worked out, Spurs fans don't have to suck Gana's Diop to blast us for trading Harris for Kidd.

I like Diop, but the full MLE is too much. I would rather they split it between Justin Williams and Azubukkake if they want to go young and athletic.

bigdog

07-02-2008, 03:48 PM

What makes you think Maggette would sign for less money to play with the Spurs. Spurs cant afford him.

Because there's only a few teams capable of offering him more money than the Spurs can, and so far only Golden State and Philly seem to be interested.

Given his recent comments, he wants to play for a winner, and it's "not always about the money".

You sir, know nothing. You are jealous.

jack sommerset

07-02-2008, 04:00 PM

Because there's only a few teams capable of offering him more money than the Spurs can, and so far only Golden State and Philly seem to be interested.

Given his recent comments, he wants to play for a winner, and it's "not always about the money".

You sir, know nothing. You are jealous.

I would be surprised if he signs with Spurs. Its not unthought of but money is money. I'm sure some teams can trade away a middle of the road player to clear up cap room if they really want Maggette.

If Maggette does sign with Spurs I can see him doing it for a 1 year. Didn't Derek Anderson do that and ended up signing for a ton the next year with another team.

SenorSpur

07-02-2008, 04:00 PM

I really think Cuban falls in love with his players to the point that it is detrimental to his team.

On Dallas sports radio, they keep talking about all these guys they would like to make moves for, but even they admit Cuban doesn't want to give up anybody to even make a trade.

Here's an article, written by one of the local Dallas Sportswriters, on how the Mavs seem to be clinging to the past. Based upon the moves they've made, it's pretty clear they've overvalued the components on their team.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/columnists/dmoore/stories/070108dnspomoore.3beb2a2.html

bigdog

07-02-2008, 04:05 PM

I would be surprised if he signs with Spurs. Its not unthought of but money is money. I'm sure some teams can trade away a middle of the road player to clear up cap room if they really want Maggette.

If Maggette does sign with Spurs I can see him doing it for a 1 year. Didn't Derek Anderson do that and ended up signing for a ton the next year with another team.

Or if he's smart he will sign for 2 years, or 3 years with the option to opt out after the 2nd, because the big money will be there in 2010 with that free agent crop proected to be great, and not after next season. Then, he could either get a nice extension from San Antonio, or a very good offer from someone else, while we go get someone else.

T Park

07-02-2008, 04:06 PM

Need a Shooting guard.

Sign?

An offensively inept center :lmao

jack sommerset

07-02-2008, 04:06 PM

Here's an article, written by one of the local Dallas Sportswriters, on how the Mavs seem to be clinging to the past. Based upon the moves they've made, it's pretty clear they've overvalued the components on their team.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/columnists/dmoore/stories/070108dnspomoore.3beb2a2.html

I think at this point in Cubans life he wants a competitive team for sure but also his priorities have changed since he first bought the team. He is trying to buy the Cubs, he produces movies, he has a HD station, no telling what else he does since he bought the Mavericks.

Lets not all forget Don Nelson put this team together not Cuban. Cuban made it fun for the fans and his players but without winning (Nelson) he would just be another owner. I am curious how he does in the future and I hope trading the future of the team for Kidd is not a tell.

spurscenter

07-02-2008, 04:19 PM

who is the GM of the Mavs?

Findog

07-02-2008, 04:20 PM

who is the GM of the Mavs?

Little Nellie

jack sommerset

07-02-2008, 04:21 PM

who is the GM of the Mavs?

Nelsons son....LOL. Looks like the apple does fall far from the tree.

mrspurs

07-02-2008, 04:26 PM

thou the money is to much.....fab cant stop diop, horry couldnt either....id take diop over anyone of our bigs......diop would have really helped duncan...

Findog

07-02-2008, 04:27 PM

thou the money is to much.....fab cant stop diop, horry couldnt either....id take diop over anyone of our bigs......diop would have really helped duncan...

the length of the contract is too much, he's getting 5 years.

spurscenter

07-02-2008, 04:27 PM

oh i forgot lil nelson was the GM.

imagine don nelson and son at a BBQ,

jack sommerset

07-02-2008, 04:28 PM

the length of the contract is too much, he's getting 5 years.

Thats what I am thinking to.

InRareForm

07-02-2008, 04:30 PM

MLE who averages 17 minutes a game?

LOLOL

monosylab1k

07-02-2008, 04:32 PM

Time for Mavfan to go back and delete all those posts talking about how shitty Diop is...

time for you to learn how to read.

bigfish22

07-02-2008, 04:43 PM

Wait were in the market for Diop?

Obstructed_View

07-02-2008, 04:51 PM

time for you to learn how to read.

For instance, "Devin Harris is a scrub" somehow means something else in your language. I suppose there's some rationale by which this terrible deal is not an indication of just how bad that trade was for the Mavs. :lol

tp2021

07-02-2008, 05:11 PM

he was shitty, just...decent. no...game. elevated coming suck Gana's Diop to blast us full...too much. I would rather split between Justin Williams...bukkake if they want young and athletic.:p:

monosylab1k

07-02-2008, 05:13 PM

For instance, "Devin Harris is a scrub" somehow means something else in your language.

Thread title:

DeSagana Diop Back with the Mavs for Full MLE

who exactly was talking about Devin Harris? Again, learn to read.

kobyz

07-02-2008, 05:15 PM

The Mavericks are stupid, it's good for me!! it's good!!

Obstructed_View

07-02-2008, 05:16 PM

Thread title:

DeSagana Diop Back with the Mavs for Full MLE

who exactly was talking about Devin Harris? Again, learn to read.

Look under your name, stoop. You'll be denying that statement, too.

Again, you were about to explain how giving Diop all this money is evidence that the Kidd trade was great asset management. Ready....GO.

ElNono

07-02-2008, 05:31 PM

What's next?

Mavs offer the entire LLE to Keith Van Horn?

bigfish22

07-02-2008, 05:33 PM

Again, what does this have to do with the SPURS?

Spurtacus

07-02-2008, 05:35 PM

One less potential landing spot for Maggette.

Yep. :tu

Tacker

07-02-2008, 05:38 PM

jack sommerset

07-02-2008, 05:46 PM

Again, what does this have to do with the SPURS?

Spurs are in same Division and what Mavs do can directly effects the Spurs plus only 230 miles seperates the two cities. I am guessing there are more Mavs fans that represent in the Spurs forum then any other NBA team here. I lived in SA 10 years and Dallas 5 years. I know lots of both fans that live in the enemies cities. Some Spur fans want Diop. I think that is why.

T Park

07-02-2008, 06:12 PM

wrong forum fuck nut

wrong message board

rage much?

Mr.Bottomtooth

07-02-2008, 06:12 PM

wrong forum fuck nut

Rage much?

wildchild

07-02-2008, 06:13 PM

Diop has his good minutes against Tim. Strong, good D, decent rebounder but we never offer full MLE for him.
Crazy move.

gmanrulz

07-02-2008, 06:19 PM

sounds like kobe. Forget about her, cheat on her then pay way too much to get her back.

Budkin

07-02-2008, 06:33 PM

Still covers Timmy pretty tough, but their team has changed way too much with Kidd.

Ed Helicopter Jones

07-02-2008, 06:39 PM

I wasn't even sold on Diop for the LLE because he's the second worst offensive player in the NBA behind Jason Collins. Damn good defender but he almost gives it all back on the other end.

http://www.yardbarker.com/m/10962/medium/bruce_bowen_GI.jpg

"I laugh with an open mouth and what appears to be blue gum at your logic, LJ!!" "No price is too high for a good defender." "Wait a minute.....how much is he getting again??"

TheMadHatter

07-02-2008, 06:42 PM

Why is this guy so hyped? He reminds me of a younger Eric Dampier.

The Mavs still have a lot of holes to fix, but I guess they now have a decent backup C. All they need now is a swingman to replace 90-year old Stack/Jones, and a backup PG.

T Park

07-02-2008, 06:42 PM

Rage much?

beat you to it.

Fail :)

ShoogarBear

07-02-2008, 07:18 PM

The entire MLE???

:lmao :lmao :lmao

My thought exactly.

Mav Fan must be overjoyed. :lol

K-State Spur

07-02-2008, 08:29 PM

Why is this guy so hyped? He reminds me of a younger Eric Dampier.

He wishes he had Dampier's stellar offense.

monosylab1k

07-03-2008, 08:18 AM

Look under your name, stoop. You'll be denying that statement, too.

Again, you were about to explain how giving Diop all this money is evidence that the Kidd trade was great asset management. Ready....GO.

Are you fuckin retarded? This deal is being almost universally panned by Mavs fans. Nobody likes bringing Diop back for this much money. And nobody thinks Diop is anything special. Our stance on Diop has never changed - he's a decent defensive specialist and backup center.

HEY CHECK OUT ALL THE MAVFANS BACKTRACKING AND CALLING DIOP AWESOME JUST BECAUSE HE IS BACK, EXACTLY LIKE OBSTRUCTED VIEW SAID WE WERE -

dude what the hell

To give Diop the full MLE (fucking retarded), then have to have some insight on getting other guys through trades. If Dick Breath, EJones, Terry, Damp and Stack are being shopped - I'm all for whatever they can get in return.

I like this acquisition, but it seems way too expensive.

after the 1st preseason game the mavs front office will be stratching there heads at this signing...

Mavs would be just as well off by signing Mbenga to a minimum deal

The full MLE is too much for Diop.

Meh...they woulda been better off splitting the MLE between Justin Williams and Azubukkake.

Diop with the full MLE??? im tired of the mavs FO. Im feeling to fully jump on the Sixers bandwagon cus the Clippers wagon seems to be full right now.

Well guys i'm off to commit suicide. Nice meeting you all

Hmmmm odd move....Diop is the WORST offensive player in the game. Why the fuck you trade him in the first place to only bring him back for the full MLE?? Unless Cuban has other things planned he appears to be making stupid ass moves :elephant

:lmao even Amarelooms hates the deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't know anybody on this site who makes more "head up their ass" statements than OV.

ClipshowDynasty

07-03-2008, 09:24 AM

doesnt matter if the spurs get magette and the mavs get diop.the clipshow r still taking it home!

sribb43

07-03-2008, 10:19 AM

[QUOTE=monosylab1k;2641458]Are you fuckin retarded? This deal is being almost universally panned by Mavs fans. Nobody likes bringing Diop back for this much money. And nobody thinks Diop is anything special. Our stance on Diop has never changed - he's a decent defensive specialist and backup center.

HEY CHECK OUT ALL THE MAVFANS BACKTRACKING AND CALLING DIOP AWESOME JUST BECAUSE HE IS BACK, EXACTLY LIKE OBSTRUCTED VIEW SAID WE WERE -

[QUOTE]

If you find a quote that stated I thought Diop was "AWESOME" let me know

Findog

07-03-2008, 10:23 AM

Going into the off-season, I'd say the Mavs had four major weaknesses or areas of concern:

1) poor coaching and chemistry
2) not enough interior defense
3) lack of size and scoring at the 2
4) lack of post scoring

Well, supposedly they've addressed the first two, but even with Carlisle and Diop, that's not enough to get this team back to the elite level.

When it comes to a shooting guard, would the Nets be satisfied for just expiring contract garbage for Vince? I know they probably want him off their books before 2010.

ShoogarBear

07-03-2008, 10:25 AM

LOL at the thought of Rick Carlisle as someone who's going to improve the chemistry. Maybe short term, but in 2 years Avery's reign won't look so bad.

Findog

07-03-2008, 10:28 AM

LOL at the thought of Rick Carlisle as someone who's going to improve the chemistry. Maybe short term, but in 2 years Avery's reign won't look so bad.

Well for starters, the average shelf-life of an NBA coach not named Phil Jackson, Jerry Sloan or Gregg Popovich is 3 years, so what's your point? I would improve the chemistry. Avery was not the source of all of the Mavs problems, but he did have to go.