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peewee's lovechild
07-07-2008, 07:55 AM
The Mind and the Obama Magic

George Lakoff
Posted July 6, 2008 | 09:10 PM (EST)

Barack Obama should not be moving toward right-wing views on issues -- even with nuanced escape clauses. Arianna Huffington, Paul Krugman and the NY Times Editorial Page all agree, for various reasons. I agree as well, for many of the same reasons, as well as important reasons that go beyond even excellent political commentary. My reasons have to do with results in the cognitive and brain sciences, as discussed in my recent book, The Political Mind: Why You Can't Understand 21st Century Politics with an 18th Century Brain.

But before I get into the details, it is important to get a sense of why Obama might be "moving to the Right." There are at least two possibilities. The first is for political expediency. The second is to reassure voters that he is a responsible leader, not a crazy radical. Let's start with the first possibility -- expediency, the one assumed by most observers.

The Political Expediency Argument

The usual political wisdom is (1) voters vote on the basis of positions on issues, (2) there is a left-to-right spectrum of voters defined by positions on issues, (3) most voters are in the "center." Polls are constructed to appear consistent with this tripartite hypothesis. The Dick Morris strategy, based on this hypothesis, says: if a Democrat moves the Right, he will get more votes because he will "take away" the other side's issues. If Obama and his advisors believe this, then the more they more to the Right, the bigger their win should be. But all three hypotheses are false, and so is the conclusion based on it.

First, voters mostly vote not on the details of positions on issues, but on five aspects of what might be called "character," as Richard Wirthlin discovered in the 1980 Reagan campaign. (pdf) They are Values (What are the ethical principles that form the basis of your politics?); Authenticity (Do you say what you believe?); Communication (Do you connect with voters and inspire them?); Judgment; Trust; and Identity (If you share voters' values, connect with them, tell them the truth effectively while inspiring trust, then they will identify with you -- and they will voter for you. Positions on issues matter when they come to stand symbolically for values. Reagan and George W. Bush understood this. Carter, Mondale, Gore, and Kerry did not. And in the primaries. Hillary Clinton did not get it (she focused on policy, while Obama and McCain focused more on character, on who he was).

Values, authenticity, communication, judgment, and trust are not irrational reasons for voting for a president, even over positions on specific issues. The reason is that situations change, and what you rationally wind up depending on are just those virtues.

Obama introduced himself to the primary voters not as a policy wonk, but as a person of character, who announced his values, said what he believed (no pussyfooting), communicated beautifully and powerfully, and gave examples of his good judgment--he was someone you could trust and identify with. That was a major part of the Obama magic. If Obama even appears to adopt Right-wing views for the sake of getting more votes, he will appear to be giving up on his values, renouncing his authenticity and believability, clouding his judgment, and raising questions about whether he can be trusted. The Obama magic will be in danger of fading.


Let us now turn to the second reason. There are two major modes of thought in American politics -- conservative and progressive, what I've called "strict" and "nurturant." We all grow up with brains exposed to both and capable of using both, but usually in different areas of life. Some people are conservative on foreign policy and progressive on domestic policy, or conservative on economic issues and progressive on social issues--or the reverse. There is no left-to-right linear spectrum; all kinds of combinations occur. I've called such folks "biconceptuals." Brainwise, they show a common situation called "mutual inhibition," where two modes of thought are possible but the activation of one inhibits the other. The more you activate a conservative mode of thought, the more you inhibit the progressive mode of thought -- and the more likely it is that the conservative mode of thought will spread to other issues.

Interestingly, many people who call themselves "conservatives" actually think like progressives on a range of issue areas. For example, many "conservatives" love the land as much as any environmentalist; want to live in communities where people care about each other, that is, have social not just individual responsibility; live progressive business principles of honesty, care for their employees, and care for the public; and have progressive religious values: helping the poor, caring for the sick, being good stewards of the God's creation, turning the other cheek. One view of "bipartisanship" for progressives is finding self-described conservatives and independents who have such progressive values and working with them on that basis. That's what Obama did when he went to Rick Warren's megachurch and it is his strategy in Project Joshua. Note that this is the opposite of the form of bipartisanship that involves really adopting right-wing values, or even appearing to. What this bipartisan strategy does, from the brain's viewpoint, is to activate the progressive mode of thought in the brains of conservatives, and thus tends to inhibit conservative thought.

But the form of bipartisanship that involves adopting, or appearing to adopt, right-wing views has the opposite effect. It strengthens conservative thought in the brains on those biconceptuals and weakens progressive thought. In short, it actually helps conservatives. Rather than "taking arguments away from them" it strengthens their basic values and hence all their arguments. It give conservatives more reason, not less, for voting for conservatives.

If Obama adopts, or appears to adopt, right-wing positions, he may still win, since McCain is such a weak candidate. But it will hurt Democrats running for office all up and down the ticket, since it will strengthen general conservative positions on all issues and hence work in the favor of conservative candidates.

As has often been said, if you are a conservative, why vote for the progressive spouting conservative views when you can vote for a real conservative?

In short, if Obama adopts, or appears to adopt, right-wing views, he will not only hurt himself, but also hurt other Democrats.

The Responsibility Position

Suppose that Obama's motivation is not political expediency, but rather an attempt to counter both right-wing and centrist stereotypes of progressives as being irresponsible.

Adopting, or appearing to adopt, right-wing positions is not going to work, and will only hurt, for reasons given above. What is the alternative?

In The Audacity of Hope, Obama portrays what I would call progressive ideals as simply American ideals, and he continued that account throughout the primary campaign. I think it is a correct account. And I think it is the key to uniting the country without adopting right-wing views. From this perspective, responsibility and the strength and judgment to act responsibly works with empathy (caring about other people) to define the basic American ideals: freedom, fairness, equality, opportunity, and so on. One can speak from this perspective of "full responsibility" both social and individual as central to the American vision, and they say what it means to be both responsible and committed to American ideals in each issue area. Moving to right-wing views, and abandoning American ideals, is never necessary to win.

A Final Word on Nuanced Escape Clauses

When Obama ran for Senator in Illinois he had to at least appear to support Illinois industries -- coal, ethanol, and nuclear energy. He has used nuanced escape clauses, such as if it turns out to be economically feasible, while aware that sequestered coal, corn ethanol, and nuclear could not be economically feasible. Is this good politics? It may have been for a new senator, but it is not for a president. The reason again is that doing so activates a conservative mode of thought and inhibits a progressive mode of thought, making the move to real alternative energy that much harder.

Positions like this depend on a deep mistake about policy. There are two aspects to policy: cognitive and material. Material policy is about the nuts and bolts, how things are to work in the world. Cognitive policy is about what the public has to have in its brain/mind in order to fully support the right material policies. Coal, nuclear energy, and ethanol are policy disasters, and even giving them phony support with nuanced escape clauses hurts the possibility of real energy reform, but it activates, and hence strengthens, the conservative modes of thought that lie behind those proposals.

Can You Avoid Attacks?

No. No matter how many right-wing views you move toward, you will be viciously attacked as too liberal, as influenced by radicals, as inexperienced, as unpatriotic, as all words and no content. Stick to your core values. Be yourself. Voters will respect you.

Why Understanding the Political Mind Matters

Politics looks different from the perspective of the cognitive and brain sciences. That is why I have written The Political Mind. Your arguments change when you start with how the brain and mind really work.

From the brain's perspective, the pragmatic arguments and moral arguments converge: Don't adopt right-wing positions for the sake of political expediency (that will backfire) or to demonstrate responsibility (that too will backfire). The best way to be expedient is to be authentic, stick to your core values, show and discuss responsibility, and thus garner trust. That is how to lead our nation, and to do so responsibly and toward fulfillment of its ideals.

George Lakoff is the author of The Political Mind: Why You Can't Understand 20th Century American Politics with an 18th Century Brain. He is Goldman Distinguished Professor of Cognitive Science and Linguistics at the University of California at Berkeley.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/george-lakoff/the-mind-and-the-obama-ma_b_111105.html

RandomGuy
07-07-2008, 12:20 PM
Interesting bit. I agree.

I also find this to be yet another interesting writer at the Huffington Post.

101A
07-07-2008, 12:38 PM
Interestingly, many people who call themselves "conservatives" actually think like progressives on a range of issue areas. For example, many "conservatives" love the land as much as any environmentalist; want to live in communities where people care about each other, that is, have social not just individual responsibility; live progressive business principles of honesty, care for their employees, and care for the public; and have progressive religious values: helping the poor, caring for the sick, being good stewards of the God's creation, turning the other cheek. One view of "bipartisanship" for progressives is finding self-described conservatives and independents who have such progressive values and working with them on that basis.

That is about the most ridiculous self-righteous load of CRAP I've ever heard!!! Being conscious of the land, caring about what happens to your fellow man - and being honest are NOT "progressive values"!!! They are simply "values", and dare I say that almost every person would hold them; regardless of their political affiliation!!!

This explains so damned much! Liberals see a policy position, and equate that with whether or not somebody "cares". If I disagree with a welfare program it means I must hate poor people. If I want tax reductions it must mean I'm rich and inordinately selfish. If I think the EPA is generally a wasteful government department, I must hate trees. Unbelievable. By definition, then, conservative = immoral.

It is, therefore, IMPOSSIBLE to have reasoned debate with liberals! They ALWAYS assume conservative's motives are to kill trees and poor people!

Chump's right, "We're doomed".

JoeChalupa
07-07-2008, 01:31 PM
PeeWee is just upset that his girl Hillary got beat by a better campaign.

peewee's lovechild
07-07-2008, 01:46 PM
PeeWee is just upset that his girl Hillary got beat by a better campaign.

PeeWee didn't write that article.

PeeWee didn't write the other article that blasted Obama for his move to the right.

George Lakoff and Arianna Huffington, both of whom supported Obama in the primaries, wrote those articles and are extremely concerned about his move to the right.

RandomGuy
07-07-2008, 01:55 PM
That is about the most ridiculous self-righteous load of CRAP I've ever heard!!! Being conscious of the land, caring about what happens to your fellow man - and being honest are NOT "progressive values"!!! They are simply "values", and dare I say that almost every person would hold them; regardless of their political affiliation!!!

This explains so damned much! Liberals see a policy position, and equate that with whether or not somebody "cares". If I disagree with a welfare program it means I must hate poor people. If I want tax reductions it must mean I'm rich and inordinately selfish. If I think the EPA is generally a wasteful government department, I must hate trees. Unbelievable. By definition, then, conservative = immoral.

It is, therefore, IMPOSSIBLE to have reasoned debate with liberals! They ALWAYS assume conservative's motives are to kill trees and poor people!

Chump's right, "We're doomed".

Typical conservative distortion. ;)

Seriously, though:

As someone labeled "liberal" I really object to THIS distortion. Generally I think conservatives and liberals both want a decent country with economic growth and reasonable jobs/employment. They just are at odds about how to get there.

I have seen an admitted conservative say that people without health insurance deserve to die if they get injured and require emergency treatment.

THAT I find patently immoral.

If you don't think that a whole helluva lot of conservatives don't feel morally superior to "liberals" because what they think liberals believe is immoral then I got a few radio broadcasts to play for you.

Personally I *do* think that there is a rather shallow strain of materialism that is eating away at society, and the "I've got mine, you can go to hell" attitude of this materialism fits a lot more with a general conservative mindset than a liberal one. This is what I think is the real moral rot at the heart of what passes for conservatism these days.

NOT that all conservatives are somehow immoral, or conservatives can't be decent people. Most are people I wouldn't mind having as neighbors. But any good honest look at the things that are said and advocated by a lot of self-styled conservatives gives me enough to make a fair case for this.

Anti.Hero
07-07-2008, 02:17 PM
He's just another politician? What's the big deal? Anyone with a brain knew this.

People made a big deal about the public finance debacle. $300mil+ vs $85mil.. He's just another politician. What did you expect? The presidency is at stake ffs.

Anti.Hero
07-07-2008, 02:20 PM
Personally I *do* think that there is a rather shallow strain of materialism that is eating away at society, and the "I've got mine, you can go to hell" attitude of this materialism fits a lot more with a general conservative mindset than a liberal one. This is what I think is the real moral rot at the heart of what passes for conservatism these days.


I agree with you about the materialism thing, however this crosses over to the mentality that "I worked my ass off for what I have, therefore I WILL get what I want." You only deserve what you work for. No man should be able to tell another what they should and should not own.

A. It's none of your business.

B. I don't work to please you or anyone else.

C. I take care of myself and my family. With all the outside forces that threaten a person's standard of living nowadays, the truth is it IS every man for himself. First and foremost.

RandomGuy
07-07-2008, 02:30 PM
Here is the bit that we must wrangle with then:

When does what any given person do affect another?

If I treat my kids like crap, or hell, just ignore them utterly, and don't teach them well, then they grow up to be criminals.

My son, 18 years down the line, sticks a gun in your face and takes your car.

You then have to pay more in taxes when his dumb ass eventually gets caught and sent to prison.

This is the fatal flaw in such individualism.

People should be rewarded for effort and ability, but at the same time, one has to bear in mind that we are all inter-dependent on some level, simply because we are a modern economy.

It might be different if we all lived like we did in the late 1700's, but we don't.

How do we deal with this interdependence?

JoeChalupa
07-07-2008, 02:39 PM
PeeWee didn't write that article.

PeeWee didn't write the other article that blasted Obama for his move to the right.

George Lakoff and Arianna Huffington, both of whom supported Obama in the primaries, wrote those articles and are extremely concerned about his move to the right.

Don't you have an opinion of their own. Or are just posting links for sake of posting them? Apparently you agree with their opinions. I happen to disagree. I've never been that far to the left and the democratic party needs to move back to the center like us JFK democrats. Obama isn't going to please everyone democrat out there. Just plain isn't gong to happen. Just like not all republicans are happy with McCain.

peewee's lovechild
07-07-2008, 02:50 PM
Don't you have an opinion of their own. Or are just posting links for sake of posting them? Apparently you agree with their opinions. I happen to disagree. I've never been that far to the left and the democratic party needs to move back to the center like us JFK democrats. Obama isn't going to please everyone democrat out there. Just plain isn't gong to happen. Just like not all republicans are happy with McCain.

1. I have my opinions, and they have been stated before.

2. JFK wasn't the great President people make him out to be.

3. I'm posting articles written by Obama supporters who are having trouble coming to terms with his recent moves. If there's something wrong with that, it has more to do with what Obama is doing than any opinion I may have.

JoeChalupa
07-07-2008, 03:00 PM
1. I have my opinions, and they have been stated before.

2. JFK wasn't the great President people make him out to be.

3. I'm posting articles written by Obama supporters who are having trouble coming to terms with his recent moves. If there's something wrong with that, it has more to do with what Obama is doing than any opinion I may have.

I've seen all those articles and of course there are Obama supporters who are having trouble with his recent statements. This is nothing new and they know it. It happens in EVERY election.

I think JFK was a great president and that is MY opinion. I don't have any problems with that. I just see a sore loser. Your man,..err..woman can't win them all you know. No matter how much they thought it was a given.

ChumpDumper
07-07-2008, 03:08 PM
I'm quite pleased the far left is bitching. Hopefully it's a sign that if Obama is elected he won't duplicate Bill Clinton's early-first term debacle.

peewee's lovechild
07-07-2008, 03:23 PM
This is nothing new and they know it. It happens in EVERY election.

Answer this:

Wasn't he supposed to bring in an era of new politics?

Wild Cobra
07-08-2008, 09:23 PM
I think JFK was a great president and that is MY opinion. I don't have any problems with that. I just see a sore loser. Your man,..err..woman can't win them all you know. No matter how much they thought it was a given.

I think JFK was a great president too.

Yes, we can find flaws in anyone. When we were in crisis as a nation, he managed to handle things pretty good. Can't say that for his predecessor now, can we!

He was a real leader. Not a typical politicain.

Spur-Addict
07-08-2008, 09:29 PM
None of these candidates offer any real change in regards to the important issues. Those issues being, Monetary Reform, which is the most pressing issue facing this nation. True Foreign Policy change, which neither candidate is offering. Also, the income tax isn't being addressed either. So, until one of these two address any of these issues, the pendulum will continue to go back and forth as long as this country lasts.

Spur-Addict
07-08-2008, 09:34 PM
I've seen all those articles and of course there are Obama supporters who are having trouble with his recent statements. This is nothing new and they know it. It happens in EVERY election.

I think JFK was a great president and that is MY opinion. I don't have any problems with that. I just see a sore loser. Your man,..err..woman can't win them all you know. No matter how much they thought it was a given.

JFK was killed b/c he attempted to change monetary policy, he attempted to implement a silver standard, or "Silver Backing". Although this isn't the answer, it's far better than no backing or a gold backing. The gold market is for the most part cornered, whereas silver is far more plentiful. Hence the blown out brain matter. You see, a debt based monetary system isn't needed like they would like you to believe, we can print our own money debt free. But, this country doesn't want that, we want to continue to get raped. Oh, by the way, our dollar isn't redeemable in gold anymore, only in another dollar. Doesn't this seem odd to you?

Marcus Bryant
07-08-2008, 09:37 PM
Oh yes, the Fed killed JFK.

:jack

Wild Cobra
07-08-2008, 10:01 PM
JFK was killed b/c he attempted to change monetary policy, he attempted to implement a silver standard, or "Silver Backing".

I don't think that's quite right, even for a conspiracy theory. Silver backing was available until March 1964. JFK was shot in November '63. There could be something to denying silver backing after his death, a change he wouldn't allow otherwise, maybe? This could also be coincidence.