Affliction: July 19, 2008

[Evan]

AFFLICTION: JULY 19, 2008
venue: The Honda Center in Anaheim, California

Bouts Scheduled to Air on Pay-Per-View:
-Fedor Emelianenko (#1 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Tim Sylvia (#5 Heavyweight in the World)*
-Josh Barnett (#4 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Pedro Rizzo
-Andre Arlovski (#6 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Ben Rothwell
-Matt Lindland vs. Fabio Negao
-Renato "Babalu" Sobral vs. Mike Whitehead

Bouts Scheduled to Air on Fox Sports Net:
-Aleksander Emelianenko (#10 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Paul Buentello
-Vitor Belfort vs. Terry Martin

Preliminary Bouts:
-Antonio Rogerio Nogueira (#8 Light Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Edwin Dewees
-Trenell "Savant" Young vs. Mark Hominick
-Justin Levens vs. Patrick Speight
-Mike Pyle vs. J.J. Ambrose

PPV $40 in HD

* Based on MMAWeekly World MMA Rankings


Looks like we finally know what the rules will be

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=6659&zoneid=13

Its going to be weird seeing elbows in a ring

[Evan]

I'm looking forward to seeing this…the matchups are awful aside from the main event but it should be interesting. First time promototion chaos along with Megadeth playing live…its going to be crazy.

[djohn14]

Edwin fuckin Dewees

[Evan]

Edwin fuckin Dewees

I know…and affliction just signed him to a multi fight deal.

[Evan]

“I don’t like him,” White said of Atencio. “If I liked him, I’d probably lay off him. The guy has an attitude problem, and I’m going to fix it for him.”

--UFC Head Dana White on Affliction chief Tom Atencio,

[djohn14]

I hate Edwin...maybe Dana should box Atencio...and last but not least....those fights that come on Fox Sports Net...does that come on every Fox Sports Net...for instance here I get the Cards...Fox Sports Midwest....

[Evan]

LEONARD is going to unload a mountain of links on this thread and then email to tell me I did a bad job setting it up.

I guarentee it. :lol

[Evan]

I hate Edwin...maybe Dana should box Atencio...and last but not least....those fights that come on Fox Sports Net...does that come on every Fox Sports Net...for instance here I get the Cards...Fox Sports Midwest....

Nope...their all different unless FOX demands they carry them. I would assume a local baseball game trumps the national feed since they pay so much for broadcast rights.

Thanksfully I have DirecTV so I get a couple of them.

[djohn14]

Dang....i wanted to see some....Oh well, UFC will do...

[Evan]

Dang....i wanted to see some....Oh well, UFC will do...

what makes you think you won't be able to see it?

[djohn14]

what makes you think you won't be able to see it?
Well...you said its not on TV.

[Evan]

Well...you said its not on TV.

No only if a baseball game is on, that will take priority for the local network.

But don't worry....the next day or two the fights will be linked here. You won't miss a second.

[djohn14]

True...true....thanks

[Evan]

This is going to be a very sloppy fight...fun...but sloppy

Aleksander Emelianenko (#10 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Paul Buentello

[djohn14]

Go Lil Fedor!

[djohn14]

And regular Fedor!

[oligarchy]

Tim Sylvia to crush some dreams.

[Evan]

Tim Sylvia to crush some dreams.

He is who I am picking

[djohn14]

Im not exactly a Fedor fan...but I cant stand Tim Sylvia....I just cant.

[desflood]

Have to make my picks now. We're leaving soon.

Fedor Emelianenko vs. Tim Sylvia
Josh Barnett vs. Pedro Rizzo
Andre Arlovski vs. Ben Rothwell
Matt Lindland vs. Fabio Negao
Renato "Babalu" Sobral vs. Mike Whitehead
Aleksander Emelianenko vs. Paul Buentello
Vitor Belfort vs. Terry Martin

Preliminary Bouts:
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira vs. Edwin Dewees
Trenell "Savant" Young vs. Mark Hominick
Justin Levens vs. Patrick Speight
Mike Pyle vs. J.J. Ambrose

Looks like column A has it. Except for Mark Hominick. Who put him over there?

[Evan]

Have to make my picks now. We're leaving soon.

Fedor Emelianenko vs. Tim Sylvia
Josh Barnett vs. Pedro Rizzo
Andre Arlovski vs. Ben Rothwell
Matt Lindland vs. Fabio Negao
Renato "Babalu" Sobral vs. Mike Whitehead
Aleksander Emelianenko vs. Paul Buentello
Vitor Belfort vs. Terry Martin

Preliminary Bouts:
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira vs. Edwin Dewees
Trenell "Savant" Young vs. Mark Hominick
Justin Levens vs. Patrick Speight
Mike Pyle vs. J.J. Ambrose

Looks like column A has it. Except for Mark Hominick. Who put him over there?

This is the problem with this card…except for the main event the card is horribly off balance. Their going for massive beat downs and not competitive match-ups ala PRIDE.

[Evan]

Fedor Emelianenko vs. Tim Sylvia Basing this on Tim's past history of taking on the best time and time again. He has been highly active. Fedor is better but hasn't proven it in years.

Josh Barnett vs. Pedro Rizzo

Andre Arlovski vs. Ben Rothwell Interesting to see how Ben hangs with a top fighter.

Matt Lindland vs. Fabio NegaoNobody wants to see this. Not even Matt's mother.

Renato "Babalu" Sobral vs. Mike Whitehead

Aleksander Emelianenko vs. Paul Buentello Like I said before…this will be fun but ugly

Vitor Belfort vs. Terry Martin

Preliminary Bouts:
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira vs. Edwin Dewees Slaughter set up.

Trenell "Savant" Young vs. Mark Hominick
Justin Levens vs. Patrick Speight
Mike Pyle vs. J.J. Ambrose

[Evan]

Too bad this isn't in Dallas as initially set up. Oh well.

[djohn14]

-Fedor Emelianenko (#1 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Tim Sylvia (#5 Heavyweight in the World)*-I cant stand sylvia
-Josh Barnett (#4 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Pedro Rizzo-Hes superior
-Andre Arlovski (#6 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Ben Rothwell-Same here
-Matt Lindland vs. Fabio Negao-The law will be laid down
-Renato "Babalu" Sobral vs. Mike Whitehead-Lucy, hes home

Bouts Scheduled to Air on Fox Sports Net:
-Aleksander Emelianenko (#10 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Paul Buentello-lil Fedor will get it done.
-Vitor Belfort vs. Terry Martin-This might be the most competitive fight, but Belfort gets it.

Preliminary Bouts:
-Antonio Rogerio Nogueira (#8 Light Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Edwin Dewees-I hate Edwin!
-Trenell "Savant" Young vs. Mark Hominick
-Justin Levens vs. Patrick Speight
-Mike Pyle vs. J.J. Ambrose

I have all column A haha

[LEONARD]

Weak thread...

I hope Fedor comes out blazing and lands some shots on the sloth-like Sylvia...

1st rd armbar

[tlongII]

Sylvia by KO.

[Evan]

Sylvia by KO.

Be more specific

[LEONARD]

knee to forehead...

[Evan]

I'm guess they get 100k buys.

[2centsworth]

for the most part, these fights are coin flips.

[dbreiden83080]

Fedor is going to want to shut some people up about him not fighting top guys. He'll come out blazing in this one, Tim's size may be a bit of a problem but he'll get him in the clinch, put him on his ass and Submit him.

[Evan]

Fedor is going to want to shut some people up about him not fighting top guys. He'll come out blazing in this one, Tim's size may be a bit of a problem but he'll get him in the clinch, put him on his ass and Submit him.

Honestly I don't think he has the faintest clue anyone has said anything negative about his fights.

[dbreiden83080]

Honestly I don't think he has the faintest clue anyone has said anything negative about his fights.

He's that shut-off

[Evan]

He's that shut-off

Yeah.

He barely speaks English and he doesn't seem the type to spend much time online. I am sure his managers are aware but probably haven't relayed it.

[tlongII]

Be more specific

Sylvia by knockout.

[DBryant88]

Sylvia starts out strong but wearsotu fast as Emelianenko makes him submit in the 2nd round with the armbar like leonard said. BTW Evan how are things? it been a while since we chatted

[djohn14]

Sylvia by knockout.

LMAO

[Evan]

sup barber

[mystargtr34]

Hey Evan whats the deal on Cro Cop... i know he won his last fight... any chance he can make his way to the top of the Heavy Weight class again... well second place at least.

What did ya make of his two UFC losses against lesser compeition.

[Evan]

Cro Cop has fought for a long time and when you consider K-1 he has had constant action so I think he may be worn down. Cro Cop is one of my all time favorites but his heart/body probably really isn't into it very much anymore.

His win against Wanderlei f-cked up his leg pretty bad.

[dallaskd]

Fedor Emelianenko vs. Tim Sylvia -ehh why not
Josh Barnett vs. Pedro Rizzo - submission
Andre Arlovski vs. Ben Rothwell - can ben hang with a top guy and can andre get his balls back and fight outside the octagon?
Matt Lindland vs. Fabio Negao - lmao
Renato "Babalu" Sobral vs. Mike Whitehead - easy sub win for babalu
Aleksander Emelianenko vs. Paul Buentello - some kind of badass KO
Vitor Belfort vs. Terry Martin - heeesss backkk

Preliminary Bouts:
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira vs. Edwin Dewees - this will be ugly
Trenell "Savant" Young vs. Mark Hominick
Justin Levens vs. Patrick Speight
Mike Pyle vs. J.J. Ambrose

[Evan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo38PTglLiQ&eurl=http://mmajunkie.com/news/4802/affliction-banned-video-preview.mma

[dallaskd]

rules for this?

[Evan]

rules for this?

Hard to tell exactly since news has been hard to come by but they will basically be UFC rules.

[oligarchy]

Hard to tell exactly since news has been hard to come by but they will basically be UFC rules.

Atencio said in a press conference last week it'd be the Unified Rules, which means the rules that UFC and EliteXC uses. That would mean elbows on the ground are allowed.

[dallaskd]

Ok can i get a list of resturants showing this like there are for ufc fights?

[LEONARD]

Countdown (3 videos)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ztEb9NHbec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTJ-3gN0tjQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWBB3TfOfyM

Press Conf Pictures
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/view_album.php?id=1029

Poor Timmy…
http://www.fightlinker.com/?p=2731

Fedor video interview
http://www.sherdog.com/videos/recent/Fedor-Talks-Sylvia-WAMMA-Belt-1693

Bisping says that Fedor is fighting hurt…
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/7/7/566616/michael-bisping-fedor-to-f

Sylvia is delusional… (in regards to him as a HW boxer)
http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/11/tim-sylvia-the-boxer/
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=6692

Belfort video interview
http://videos.mmaweekly.com/view_player.php?id=2642

Whitehead video interview
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/7/9/567806/mike-whitehead-pleased-to

Aleks interview
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=13702
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/1/From-Surviving-the-Streets-of-Russia-to-MMA-The-Story-of-Aleksander-Emelianenko-Part-2-13709

he hunts bears with no gun…lol
http://www.fightlinker.com/?p=2733

Buentello preps for Aleks (10 min mini documentary)
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/7/14/571388/affliction-banned-preview

Trump talking about Fedor on Howard Stern…man, he’s so clueless about MMA…
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MPyeddJGz0A

[dallaskd]

Bisping says that Fedor is fighting hurt…
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/7/7/566616/michael-bisping-fedor-to-f

:rolleyes

Trump talking about Fedor on Howard Stern…man, he’s so clueless about MMA…
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MPyeddJGz0A

:lmao

[LEONARD]

AA...WOW!! :lol
http://mmamania.com/2008/07/17/andrei-arlovski-how-taste-my-pee-pee-tim-sylvia-video/

[Evan]

Yeah now people will have an excuse if Fedor loses, he was hurt....blah...

everyone goes into a fight hurt.

[LEONARD]

He could go in in a wheelchair and win this one...

WTH does Bisping know anyway?

[cornbread]

Bouts Scheduled to Air on Pay-Per-View:
-Fedor Emelianenko (#1 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Tim Sylvia (#5 Heavyweight in the World)*
-Josh Barnett (#4 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Pedro Rizzo
-Andre Arlovski (#6 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Ben Rothwell
-Matt Lindland vs. Fabio Negao
-Renato "Babalu" Sobral vs. Mike Whitehead

Bouts Scheduled to Air on Fox Sports Net:
-Aleksander Emelianenko (#10 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Paul Buentello
-Vitor Belfort vs. Terry Martin

Preliminary Bouts:
-Antonio Rogerio Nogueira (#8 Light Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Edwin Dewees
-Trenell "Savant" Young vs. Mark Hominick
-Justin Levens vs. Patrick Speight
-Mike Pyle vs. J.J. Ambrose

[Evan]

He could go in in a wheelchair and win this one...

WTH does Bisping know anyway?

I dunno...but now people will have an excuse.

[LEONARD]

MAIN CARD (PPV)
•Fedor Emelianenko vs. Tim Sylvia
•Andrei Arlovski vs. Ben Rothwell
•Josh Barnett vs. Pedro Rizzo
•Renato "Babalu" Sobral vs. Mike Whitehead
•Matt Lindland vs. Fabio Nascimento
•Edwin Dewees vs. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
•J.J. Ambrose vs. Mike Pyle
•Ray Lazama vs. Justin Levens (swing bout)

PRELIMINARY CARD (FSN)
•Paul Buentello vs. Aleksander Emelianenko
•Vitor Belfort vs. Terry Martin
•Mark Hominick vs. Savant Young

[Evan]

Mike Whitehead?

[LEONARD]

Yep...

[ATRAIN]

AFFLICTION: JULY 19, 2008
venue: The Honda Center in Anaheim, California

Bouts Scheduled to Air on Pay-Per-View:
-Fedor Emelianenko (#1 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Tim Sylvia (#5 Heavyweight in the World)*
-Josh Barnett (#4 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Pedro Rizzo
-Andre Arlovski (#6 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Ben Rothwell
-Matt Lindland vs. Fabio Negao
-Renato "Babalu" Sobral vs. Mike Whitehead

Bouts Scheduled to Air on Fox Sports Net:
-Aleksander Emelianenko (#10 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Paul Buentello
-Vitor Belfort vs. Terry Martin

Preliminary Bouts:
-Antonio Rogerio Nogueira (#8 Light Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Edwin Dewees
-Trenell "Savant" Young vs. Mark Hominick
-Justin Levens vs. Patrick Speight
-Mike Pyle vs. J.J. Ambrose

PPV $40 in HD

* Based on MMAWeekly World MMA Rankings


Looks like we finally know what the rules will be

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=6659&zoneid=13

Its going to be weird seeing elbows in a ring



Just curious Evan, where do you get your rankings for all of MMA? Im curious to see top 10 of every division.

[Evan]

* Based on MMAWeekly World MMA Rankings

But rankings generally suck and any ranking that has Fedor who hasn't fought a legit opponent in his class in over 2 years is garbage.

[ATRAIN]

* Based on MMAWeekly World MMA Rankings

But rankings generally suck and any ranking that has Fedor who hasn't fought a legit opponent in his class in over 2 years is garbage.

OH ok cool, yeah rankings are pretty dumb anyways but I like to look at them :).

[Evan]

Fiveouncesofpain normally has pretty good ones but its not updated that much.

And if Fedor rolls through Tim tomorrow I will say he is number 1. My entire reasoning for him not being number 1 right now is inactivity. I'm not sure how anyone can say an inactive exhibition fighter for an extended period of time is at the top.

[Evan]

f-cking hell.. I wanted to see this badly.

The heavyweight bout between Aleksander Emelianenko and Paul Buentello scheduled for Saturday’s Affliction debut event has been cancelled.

According to Bill Douglas of the California State Athletic Commission, Emelianenko did not meet his licensing requirements.

[djohn14]

Dammit Evan....do you have some MMA breaking news thing on your cell phone...why do you know all this. It wouldnt be bad if it was a while before me, but no....I get a link, verify my source, come here, and what do I see? Its Evan...Mr Im MMA and you are late...dammit lol

[Evan]

early word is Aleks has hepatitis and Garry Goodridge is stepping in to fight Paul. I could not care less.

F-ck I wanted to see Aleks fight bad...........

[Evan]

Dammit Evan....do you have some MMA breaking news thing on your cell phone...why do you know all this. It wouldnt be bad if it was a while before me, but no....I get a link, verify my source, come here, and what do I see? Its Evan...Mr Im MMA and you are late...dammit lol


hah.....sorry sir.

[Evan]

I really like everyone who posts here so whenever I read something I come here first to post it.

The funny thing is...I don't even like basketball that much. hah

[oligarchy]

I really like everyone who posts here so whenever I read something I come here first to post it.

The funny thing is...I don't even like basketball that much. hah

Basketball? Is that a sport? Isn't this a soccer board for the Tottenham Hotspurs ?

[Evan]

Basketball? Is that a sport? Isn't this a soccer board for the Tottenham Hotspurs ?

I hope United gets Berbatov.

[LEONARD]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccccccckkkkkk k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LEONARD]

Nice hat, Donald...
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/071808weighin/1035.jpg

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/071808weighin/1003.jpg

Don't sleep on Young vs Hominick...should be non-stop action...
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/071808weighin/1007.jpg

Vitor looks solid
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/071808weighin/1010.jpg

He has balls...I'll give him that...
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/071808weighin/1015.jpg

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/071808weighin/1017.jpg

I'd love to see Lindland lose...
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/071808weighin/1020.jpg

The new and improved Mike Whitehead...he's come a long way from crying in the TUF dressing room with Matt Hughes, not sure if he ever wanted to fight again...
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/071808weighin/1022.jpg

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/071808weighin/1024.jpg

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/071808weighin/1025.jpg

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/071808weighin/1027.jpg

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/071808weighin/1029.jpg

Finally get to see if Rothwell has anything...
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/071808weighin/1030.jpg

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/071808weighin/1032.jpg

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/071808weighin/1033.jpg

The most annoying site in the world...Tim sucking in at weigh-ins...
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/071808weighin/1038.jpg

Looking like his normal self...
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/071808weighin/1039.jpg

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/071808weighin/1041.jpg

The WAMMA belt...Tim and Trump are tight...
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/071808weighin/1042.jpg

Megadeth is going to SUCK...glad I'll be watching both events at the same time and blasting thru all the BS...
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/071808weighin/1046.jpg

[Evan]

I can't stand that their having a band play…ugh…

Oh and LEONARD….I expect my $20 the moment there is so much blood in Fedor's eyes they have to call it.

[LEONARD]

from email:

"Hey if you want we can knock off that bet…even take it down to a $1 or whatever."

:lol

The bet is still on sucker...

[Evan]

from email:

"Hey if you want we can knock off that bet…even take it down to a $1 or whatever."

:lol

The bet is still on sucker...

I bet you make spinach dip in bowls of sourdough bread and listen to coldplay

[LEONARD]

:lol

[Evan]

Hah

Man I can't remember the last time I was this excited for a night of fights…probably Cro Cop and Gonzaga.

[dallaskd]

f-cking hell.. I wanted to see this badly.

The heavyweight bout between Aleksander Emelianenko and Paul Buentello scheduled for Saturday’s Affliction debut event has been cancelled.

According to Bill Douglas of the California State Athletic Commission, Emelianenko did not meet his licensing requirements.

that's gay, but it was on the undercar anyway.

[dallaskd]

Pros Pick: Fedor vs. Sylvia

It’s one of the most important heavyweight matches in recent memory and without question the litmus test for Affliction’s future. The clothing company has assembled one of the greatest MMA events ever on paper, and the show’s success hinges primarily on one bout: the main event featuring world-recognized heavyweight king Fedor Emelianenko (Pictures) squaring off against two-time UFC heavyweight champion Tim Sylvia (Pictures).

Looking at the Las Vegas odds just days prior to the encounter, Fedor is the prohibitive favorite. Most members of the media and thousands of fans believe Sylvia stands little to no chance of pulling off the upset. But what do fighters think?

Sherdog.com polled more than 25 fighters and trainers to get their thoughts:


Urijah Faber (Pictures): I think Fedor will win -- second round via armbar or GNP. But I’m rooting for Tim because he’s my buddy.

Gabe Ruediger (Pictures): I’m going with Fedor. He always comes up with a great game plan and is just that dominant. Sylvia is a proper test and will put up a good fight, though.

John Hackleman: I like Sylvia to score a TKO sometime in the second, maybe even the first. I’m a huge Fedor fan because he’s like a freak of nature, but you just can’t count Sylvia out.

Nick Thompson (Pictures): Fedor via armbar.

Cung Le (Pictures): Fedor by decision.

Guy Mezger (Pictures): I’m going with Fedor, but Tim has a good chance because of his jab. He hits hard and he may be able to keep Fedor away and wear him down. Not likely, but maybe.

Mac Danzig (Pictures): On the ground Fedor wins, but stand-up is anybody’s game. People always underestimate Tim’s boxing, and Fedor has never fought anybody with a jab like Tim’s. I still think Fedor will win, but Sylvia is the toughest style matchup for a guy like Fedor, and it’s going to be a lot closer than most people think.

Dan Henderson (Pictures): Fedor by ground-and-pound or armbar -- first round.

Micah Miller (Pictures): I predict that Fedor wins this fight. He is more well-rounded and defeated Mark Hunt (Pictures) -- a bigger, much better striker than Sylvia.

Kevin Randleman (Pictures): Fedor wins, but [he] had a long layoff. Could get drawn out, but Fedor wins.

Matt Lindland (Pictures): I would like to see Tim be a spoiler. All I know is I’m excited to see it.

Jaime Fletcher: They will trade a little. Fedor will take him down. Work some ground-and-pound and then probably hit a submission. His ground is nasty, and Tim’s prone to it. It won’t be a long fight.

Nathan Marquardt: I say Sylvia by TKO round three.

Doug Marshall (Pictures): I think Fedor in the first round.

Travis Wiuff (Pictures): Great fight! Tim has a way of surprising people when no one thinks he can win. I’ve seen him train, and his work ethic is second to none. Fedor hasn’t fought a significant heavyweight in three years. I say Tim by decision.

Din Thomas (Pictures): For years I’ve underestimated Tim Sylvia (Pictures). This time I think I’m gonna be in the minority and pick Tim and his long right hand. Come to think of it, I am a minority.

Ron Frazier: I think Fedor finally gets Tim down and submits him. But he’ll take some damage in the process. Fight goes into the third round. Fedor by armbar.

Marc Laimon: Fedor should pick Tim Sylvia (Pictures) up and slam him on his head, then pummel him for a TKO or submit him. But Tim could knock him out. Fedor is a way better athlete, and that’s who my money is on.

Marvin Eastman (Pictures): Fedor by TKO in the third.

Richie Hightower (Pictures): Fedor by whatever he wants.

Troy Mandaloniz (Pictures): Fedor will destroy him.

David Loiseau (Pictures): It will be a very interesting fight. Fedor is a beast but hasn’t fought a lot recently. Sylvia’s been fighting top-level competition. Anxious to see how it will turn out. Not sure who will win.

Eddy Millis (Pictures): Fedor subs him in the first round.

Clay Guida (Pictures): Fedor by sub when it goes to the ground. Any round.

Alan Belcher (Pictures): Fedor will submit him in the first.

Shawn Tompkins (Pictures): I am going to go on record and say Tim Sylvia (Pictures) by KO in the second round. I love Fedor, but I just have a feeling for Sylvia in this one.

Charlie Valencia (Pictures): I pick Fedor only because he is more athletic and better skilled. The only chance that Tim has is by KO, and that’s highly unlikely.

Pros picking Fedor: 20
Pros picking Sylvia: 5
Pros unsure: 2

[Evan]

Gabe Ruediger ….awesome. I love it.

[Anti.Hero]

Fuckin Tim. What a goofy bastard.

[Evan]

Fuckin Tim. What a goofy bastard.

^^^^won't be ordering any $20 autographs off Tim's site

[djohn14]

Great news fellars I get to watch the 1 hour edition right before UFC comes on. Thats Vitor-Terry Martin and Paul versus Gary Goodridge.

[djohn14]

Din Thomas (Pictures): For years I’ve underestimated Tim Sylvia (Pictures). This time I think I’m gonna be in the minority and pick Tim and his long right hand. Come to think of it, I am a minority.

[Evan]

Great news fellars I get to watch the 1 hour edition right before UFC comes on. Thats Vitor-Terry Martin and Paul versus Gary Goodridge.

we get the lat showing...midnight.

[Evan]

Din Thomas (Pictures): For years I’ve underestimated Tim Sylvia (Pictures). This time I think I’m gonna be in the minority and pick Tim and his long right hand. Come to think of it, I am a minority.

I picked Tim as well.

And as far as you being a minority, we weren't making our quota until you arrived so we're pleased you're here.

affirmative action at work^^^

[djohn14]

Vitor Belfort get in this house right now! Damn!!!

[Evan]

he looked awesome

[Evan]

Listening to Jay Glazer and Trigg is an audio kick to the nuts. I wish they had somehow gotten Rice or Shamrock.

[Evan]

Ronalto's trainer is my hero

[Evan]

I hate fights in ropes because fighters fall out. I can't stand it.

And its a shame because ropes look so much better on TV.

It just doesn't work for MMA

[Evan]

Arlovski fight was awesome but the production is horrid and they kill all momentum with megadeth

[dbreiden83080]

Hey Evan you got a decent fight stream for this??

[Evan]

Hey Evan you got a decent fight stream for this??

Yeah but your wayyyyyyyyyyyy toooooooooooooo late. No chance of you getting in now.

LEONARD will have links for you tomorrow for down loads.

[dbreiden83080]

Yeah but your wayyyyyyyyyyyy toooooooooooooo late. No chance of you getting in now.

LEONARD will have links for you tomorrow for down loads.

AHH, well i have one but it sucks, oh well thanks anyway.

[Evan]

AHH, well i have one but it sucks, oh well thanks anyway.

sorry....its simply too late for you to get in. Its a day long process to get set up at minimum.

[dbreiden83080]

sorry....its simply too late for you to get in. Its a day long process to get set up at minimum.

You still got Tim taking this?

[dbreiden83080]

:lmao:lmao:lmao

30 seconds oh my GOD Tim you suck

[Evan]

Fedor is the greatest HW fighter of all time. There is no question. He breathes greatness. He went all that time and demolished a very good HW fighter.

I still say Silva is the best pound for pound fighter since he is more active against top fighters.

[Evan]

You still got Tim taking this?

Fedor is just that good.

[dbreiden83080]

I don't see Randy doing much against him with this long layoff of his. Randy is great but Fedor is the Jordan of MMA.

[Evan]

I don't see Randy doing much against him with this long layoff of his. Randy is great but Fedor is the Jordan of MMA.

There is not a HW alive who is even close to him.

I give Fedor everything he is due. I wanted to see him take a top fight and he did and destroyed. After all that rust he still shows his greatness.

[Evan]

I own up to my bets....

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[Evan]

I don't see Randy doing much against him with this long layoff of his. Randy is great but Fedor is the Jordan of MMA.

Tap the breaks. Anderson Silva is much more active against top level fighters.

Fedor is 2nd.

[dallaskd]

I thought overall the Affliction broadcast was extremely weak. the fighters did their part, but in terms of overall production i thought it was terrible. good fights though. not alot to complain about. some good KOs. and fedor looked great. i still have gsp and anderson silva above him P4P. still thinking on BJ.

[dallaskd]

you can watch the fights at mmalinker.com

[dallaskd]

I came in my pants thinking about a Barnett-Fedor fight. Fedor-Arlovski would be awesome too.

[Evan]

I came in my pants thinking about a Barnett-Fedor fight. Fedor-Arlovski would be awesome too.

:lol

[polandprzem]

U frickin kidding me?

There is nobody better from the UFC?

:lol

Tim got demolished so fast. And where is his takedown defense?
The problem is that in UFC there is not much versitality in the takedown defense.

Bum bum on the ground, taking back, and a quick choke

pfff Fedor got better competition in Pride.
Nogueira was better when Fedor beaten him few years back.

I mean come on.

I want more Fedor fights!

[dallaskd]

And where is his takedown defense?
The problem is that in UFC there is not much versitality in the takedown defense.

He didnt get taken down. He got knocked on his ass.

[dbreiden83080]

Tap the breaks. Anderson Silva is much more active against top level fighters.

Fedor is 2nd.

And that right there is why it is crazy this guy is not in the UFC. Dana White needs to offer this guy whatever it takes to get him in the company. Can you imagine what Silva vs Fedor would do?? That is the dream match of dream matches.

I'm sure White will downplay what Fedor just did by saying "Tim is washed up". Fact is he just demolished your ex-champ like he was nothing, and he would do that to any heavy in the UFC. White damn well knows this.

[djohn14]

And that right there is why it is crazy this guy is not in the UFC. Dana White needs to offer this guy whatever it takes to get him in the company. Can you imagine what Silva vs Fedor would do?? That is the dream match of dream matches.

I'm sure White will downplay what Fedor just did by saying "Tim is washed up". Fact is he just demolished your ex-champ like he was nothing, and he would do that to any heavy in the UFC. White damn well knows this.

Did you just propose an Anderson Silva-Fedor fight? Anderson is going back down to 185. That would be a 2 weight class difference. Dana would never let this happen, an I cant blame him.

Also, Dana said in an interview that he was indeed impressed with Fedors fight. Who knows...maybe someday Dana will see the light and get him in here.

[angelbelow]

geez i knew sylvia didnt have a chance but i was willing to bet hed at least last a round. i guess i overestimated sylvia/ underestimated fedor.

[dbreiden83080]

Did you just propose an Anderson Silva-Fedor fight? Anderson is going back down to 185. That would be a 2 weight class difference. Dana would never let this happen, an I cant blame him.


Well they would have to fight at 205, Fedor is not a huge Heavy so it might be possible, that is more of the fan in me thinking out loud, dreaming about it. Just a shame this guy is not in the UFC and Dana White loves to talk shit about him, well what's up now??

[djohn14]

OK DB making a little more since. Fedor fights at around 235 wouldnt everyone say...and Silva walks around at what...215? So maybe a 225 catch weight is the only way it would happen. Of course it wont...I was just figuring what it would take....but here is a nice little article from Yahoo sports.




LAS VEGAS – UFC president Dana White has been relentless in his criticism of ex-PRIDE heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko over the past several years.

White has criticized and mocked the popular Russian for failing to face top competition and taking on inexperienced and even smaller fighters over the past three years.

But upon learning that Emelianenko had submitted ex-UFC heavyweight champion Tim Sylvia on Saturday in Anaheim, Calif., in less than a minute, White unflinchingly admitted he was impressed.

“It does (change my opinion),” he conceded. “Tim Sylvia was a real opponent.”

But it didn’t change his opinion enough to make him reconsider his opinion that Anderson Silva is the world’s best fighter.



“Not at all,” White said, beaming. “Do you even need to ask me after that?”

In a career filled with highlight reel knockouts, Silva put together one of his best in his debut at light heavyweight Saturday at the Pearl at the Palms. He caught a kick from James Irvin, connected with a straight right hand that all but knocked Irvin cold and then finished the ex-college football player with a brutal ground-and-pound.

“Like a chess game, he happened to move the wrong piece and I countered,” Silva said.

It only took him 61 seconds to win a fight that he accepted on short notice despite the risk of moving to light heavyweight for the first time. Irvin is a powerful puncher who’s had his own spectacular knockouts, having set a UFC record in April when he knocked Houston Alexander out in eight seconds.

None of it mattered much to Silva, though, who looked as comfortable as a 205-pounder as he did in tearing apart quality fighters like Rich Franklin and Dan Henderson at 185 pounds.

Silva’s power against a man that much bigger was stunning, but Brandon Vera, who dropped to light heavyweight and won a lackluster decision over Reese Andy on the undercard earlier Saturday, said it isn’t so much Silva’s power that makes him special as it is the placement of his punches.

“With Anderson, I don’t think it’s really his power, it’s his precision” Vera said. “You could give him a target a mile down the road and have him shoot at it and he would hit it dead center every time. I think it’s his precision and speed, it’s not his power. He’s not relying on power. It’s technique, man. He makes it look like ballet.”

It wasn’t the kind of ballet that Mikhail Baryshnikov would have done well in, though. It’s a sudden, hard, concussive ballet.

Irvin, who once was a defensive back at Azusa Pacific, went down from the right hand as if he were blocked by a 320-pound All-Pro tackle leading a sweep.

Silva pounced on him and pounded away, but it was all but unnecessary, as Irvin was motionless from the right.

As good as he looked against Irvin – not one of the division’s elite, but a solid middle-of-the-road light heavyweight – Silva said it would not change his mind about returning to middleweight.

He’s likely to fight at UFC 88 in Atlanta on Sept. 6 against Patrick Cote. Yushin Okami, who was to have gotten the title fight, broke his hand and won’t be able to make it.

Silva left little doubt that he could be as successful at light heavyweight as he has been at middleweight. But he told White he wants to “completely clean out” the division and will, for the time being, only look at light heavyweight bouts if there is a special event which can be made.

Franklin, the ex-middleweight champion who twice was destroyed by Silva, is moving up to light heavyweight to face Matt Hamill and had to be thrilled to hear Silva is going to remain at middleweight, far, far away from him.

“I say this all the time, but we have a great 185-pound division,” White said. “The problem is, the champion is so damn good that he makes it look like it’s not. The guy is an amazing athlete and an incredible fighter. I expected an amazing fight tonight with Irvin.

“I thought there was going to be some back-and-forth. I thought there were going to bang and, wow.”

Emelianenko hadn’t faced a ranked heavyweight since he beat Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic on Aug. 28, 2005. Since then, he’s faced a middleweight, a man in his second pro mixed martial arts bout and a series of other less than overwhelming opponents.

His performance against Sylvia erased any of those doubts, led most vocally by White, about his ability and may gain him much ground in the pound-for-pound rankings.

Silva, though, said he’s convinced the best fighters compete in the UFC, despite what Emelianenko was able to do to a two-time UFC heavyweight king.

“Once again, I think the UFC proved that it has the best fighters in the world,” Silva said. “If there were any event out there that would have the (courage) to put a team to fight against a UFC team, there is no doubt in my mind that it would be a slaughter.”

White loved everything he saw, and most of what he heard, from Silva on Saturday. But White is notorious for not co-promoting his bouts and he wasn’t about to bend on that even if his best fighter is urging him to do it.

“One more question,” White said, laughing, when asked if he’d put together a show such as Silva described.

There will be much debate how a show like that would come out. But there’s little doubt who would come out on top at middleweight.

“Man, Anderson Silva,” Vera said, shaking his head. “Dana mentioned Anderson is one of the best pound-for-pound fighters in the world, arguably. He showed it tonight. He jumped up to 205 and gave it to James like it was nobody’s business. James is a friend of mine and he went in there like a soldier, but Anderson Silva. Pretty much, all you need to say is his name. It’s almost a household word (in this sport), like Michael Jordan (in basketball). Wow.”

[polandprzem]

He didnt get taken down. He got knocked on his ass.

That's Fedors strategy to take people down.
Take a look at Chois fight with fedor for excample:toast

[Evan]

Affliction: Banned

* The pacing of the show was brutal (running almost five hours in a testament to the old adage, “too much of a good thing”) and the production wasn’t exactly smooth, but Affliction more than survived its first test as a promoter, presenting a solid show that delivered three exciting heavyweight fights to close the night.
* The official gate numbers aren’t yet available and pay-per-view results won’t be in for weeks, but with a $4-6 million payroll, in addition to startup costs, it’s a virtual certainty that the show lost money. That said, it’s important to remember that Zuffa lost roughly $40 million between its first event (UFC 30 in 2001) and UFC 51 (the first pay-per-view after the Ultimate Fighter), for an average of roughly $2 million an event. And since that time the financial stakes of the sport have been raised significantly.
* Last night wasn’t about the present as much as it was the future. Affliction established a base from which it can extend the reach of its brand, particularly with several attractive heavyweight matches in play over the next two events. The company could easily go to Fedor v. Barnett and/or Arlovski over the next two shows, putting aside the potential mega-fight with Couture.

UFC: Silva vs Irvin

* The ultimate success of this show depends on two factors: how much it hurt Affliction and how much it helped Anderson Silva. As noted above, the effect on Affliction’s bottom line is unknown for the moment, but the show almost certainly elevated Silva.
* The UFC spent two weeks telling everyone that would listen that Silva was the best pound for pound fighter in the world today. The return on that investment of time and resources was another stunning performance that paves the way for a number of big fights in the UFC’s premiere division, if the company and Silva are so inclined. It will be interesting to see the rating for the show, but if that didn’t make Anderson Silva a draw, perhaps nothing will.
* That said, Patrick Cote is not the opponent to go to next. Despite what he or anybody else says, Silva has already cleaned out the Middleweight division of marketable challengers. 205 pounds is where Silva belongs for the foreseeable future.
* Overall it was another solid event for the UFC, something it doesn’t get nearly the credit it deserves for consistently delivering. The company’s complete competency as a live event producer and its regular habit of delivering entertaining events is largely taken for granted. However, contrasted with Affliction’s maiden voyage, the UFC’s nearly seamless production was much easier to appreciate. Affliction may have shown that it has the best heavyweight division in the sport, but the UFC proved once again that its presentation is unmatched. Experience has its advantages and its something that money can’t buy.

[dallaskd]

That's Fedors strategy to take people down.
Take a look at Chois fight with fedor for excample:toast

I dont think Fedor's strategy to take people down is to punch their ass to the floor. Fedor likes to do his work from the clinch.

[Evan]

The end of the night when Randy came out...I wonder if he will get sued.

[dallaskd]

The end of the night when Randy came out...I wonder if he will get sued.

wait what happened?

[Evan]

wait what happened?

Randy and Fedor had a light "stare down" at the end.

[dallaskd]

Randy and Fedor had a light "stare down" at the end.

uh oh!!!! lets go!!!!!

is randy a free man yet??? imagine the possiblities with Randy, Arlovski, Barnett, Fedor, Aleks, ect...

if randy were to fight fedor and lose i would love to see him avenge the barnett loss.

[Evan]

uh oh!!!! lets go!!!!!

is randy a free man yet??? imagine the possiblities with Randy, Arlovski, Barnett, Fedor, Aleks, ect...

if randy were to fight fedor and lose i would love to see him avenge the barnett loss.

Randy isn't free yet.

[dallaskd]

and he probably never will be. please randy...fight nog and win. then retire on top.

[Evan]

and he probably never will be. please randy...fight nog and win. then retire on top.

agree.

He screwed himself so bad by handling it the way he did. He openly talked about violating his contract to go somewhere else.

[dallaskd]

he needs to learn to.....LET GO. move on with your life randy. focus on your gym and get back on UFC broadcasts. the guy was such a hero of so many but lost so much respect so fast. most casual/remote fans dont know who nog is or why hes the champ. alot of my friends who called him their favorite fighter have no idea where hes gone. he needs to pull a John Beckwith in "Wedding Crashers" and save himself before he goes under espescially with this acting career of his. forget fedor already geez. i want captain america back.

and the sad thing is, randy could have had one of the most amazing stories in the history of sports. coming back from the dead at 43 after a devestating divorce and 2 KO losses to Liddell, to stun the world winning 3 straight upset wins(assuming he beat Nog). and he could have retired a hero to kids everywhere. and continued working with the ufc broadcasts. but instead he got invloved with his self ego and i think worried about his legacy to much. hes a hall of famer and a legend of the game. he doesnt need to fight fedor to solidify his legacy. hes done enough, in fact its kind of ironic because all of these politics with fedor have actually have hurt his legacy. its a shame. and its too late to fix it. forget trying it now randy. the toll has been taken. and as much as i dont want to say it....retire already randy.

[Behrooz24]

Randy and Fedor had a light "stare down" at the end.

The translating part killed the mood a little

[angelbelow]

even if they fight, does anyone actually see randy courture winning?

[polandprzem]

I dont think Fedor's strategy to take people down is to punch their ass to the floor. Fedor likes to do his work from the clinch.

I need to do the review but I do not remember that Fedor went for a clinch before landing a punch.

He tries to punch to affect the opponent then goes for a clinch and fell on the opponent or fall the opponent on him.
Whatever is the gameplan or the simple battle rules.

[LEONARD]

Fedor is pretty good...where's Mr Dio? :lol What'd he call him "cool breeze" or something?

Fedor is right there in P4P with Silva for me because he's done what he's done as a small, chubby HW. If he was American he'd be a UFC LHW. He's smaller than Chuck, Forrest, etc...

We need Fedor vs Arlovski next...Oct or so...

Then maybe Barnett in Japan on NYE...Couture early '09?

That'd be one hell of a run...

Glad to see Barnett get the KO...

and Vitor :wow


Did you just propose an Anderson Silva-Fedor fight? Anderson is going back down to 185. That would be a 2 weight class difference. Dana would never let this happen, an I cant blame him.

Fedor could cut to 205 if it was in his nature...but it's not...

[dbreiden83080]

agree.

He screwed himself so bad by handling it the way he did. He openly talked about violating his contract to go somewhere else.

The UFC should just let Randy go already. Randy did a lot for them, he will be 45 soon, just cut him loose from his deal and let the man fight Fedor. Nobody is benefitting from this stalemate. Randy is a proud man and he has dug in and flat out said "He is not fighting for the UFC ever again". The UFC should just cut him loose and put this mess behind them.

[Evan]

The UFC should just let Randy go already. Randy did a lot for them, he will be 45 soon, just cut him loose from his deal and let the man fight Fedor. Nobody is benefitting from this stalemate. Randy is a proud man and he has dug in and flat out said "He is not fighting for the UFC ever again". The UFC should just cut him loose and put this mess behind them.

That’s just not the way sports work. The UFC did as much for Randy as he did for them.

[dbreiden83080]

That’s just not the way sports work. The UFC did as much for Randy as he did for them.

I didn't say they didn't however, this whole thing is a black eye on the company. What do they have to gain by hanging on to Randy like this?? White did not sign Fedor, Randy is not going to fight for them again, so what is the point. Guy has maybe 2 fights left. This is coming off as petty.

[ATRAIN]

Arlovski looked good back in the ring. He is my fav heavyweight I would love to see him take down Fedor :). Wouldnt happen but it would be nice.

[ATRAIN]

I just hope Affliction doesnt continue to waste my time with band performances. 1 song by Megadeath would have been ok, but 4........come on!!

[LEONARD]

I just hope Affliction doesnt continue to waste my time with band performances. 1 song by Megadeath would have been ok, but 4........come on!!

No doubt...I didn't watch ANY of them though...the night worked out perfectly for me though...

Started watching Affliction around 8:15...
Paused when we got to live TV and jumped to Spike...
Watched that until live, then back to Affliction...
Repeated that process a few times until we watched Silva-Irvin live.
Then watched Fedor-Sylvia live.

Didn't see one commercial on Spike, one performance by Megadeth, and blew through most of the fighter intros and in between fight BS...

[ATRAIN]

No doubt...I didn't watch ANY of them though...the night worked out perfectly for me though...

Started watching Affliction around 8:15...
Paused when we got to live TV and jumped to Spike...
Watched that until live, then back to Affliction...
Repeated that process a few times until we watched Silva-Irvin live.
Then watched Fedor-Sylvia live.

Didn't see one commercial on Spike, one performance by Megadeth, and blew through most of the fighter intros and in between fight BS...

Yeah tried to do that buy my friend doesnt have a HD dvr and thats where we had the affliction fight on. The UFC was being recorded on regular DVR so we would go back and fourth and used a lot of picture and picture.

[Evan]

I hope they get rid of the ring. It simply does not work in MMA.

[dallaskd]

I need to do the review but I do not remember that Fedor went for a clinch before landing a punch.

He tries to punch to affect the opponent then goes for a clinch and fell on the opponent or fall the opponent on him.
Whatever is the gameplan or the simple battle rules.

he didnt use the clinch in this fight because he didnt take sylvia down. he punched him. sylvia fell.

[dallaskd]

I hope they get rid of the ring. It simply does not work in MMA.

tell that to a jap league

[Evan]

tell that to a jap league

.....oh dear......

[ATRAIN]

I hope they get rid of the ring. It simply does not work in MMA.

I agree, I wasnt a fan of that.

[Evan]

I agree, I wasnt a fan of that.

There is no bigger buzzkill than seeing fighters fall out and have to reset. I know the counterargument is the stalls against the cage but at least you occasionally get something like the Urijah Faber knee strikes.

[ATRAIN]

There is no bigger buzzkill than seeing fighters fall out and have to reset. I know the counterargument is the stalls against the cage but at least you occasionally get something like the Urijah Faber knee strikes.

Yeah or when they were too close they would reset and move them in the same position a little bit away from the ropes.

[Evan]

It’s a shame because fights in a ring clearly look better on TV and on pictures. I'm not sure what the perfect enviroment is but I am certain Rings shouldn't be used.

[ATRAIN]

It’s a shame because fights in a ring clearly look better on TV and on pictures. I'm not sure what the perfect enviroment is but I am certain Rings shouldn't be used.

the Cage is the way to go.. Maybe a ring with a cage like in wrestling hahaha just kidding.

[Evan]

the Cage is the way to go.. Maybe a ring with a cage like in wrestling hahaha just kidding.

can you imagine Herring vs Brock on top of a cage?

[LEONARD]

tell that to a jap league

Mr Dio??? :wow

[Evan]

LEONARD…your thoughts on the ring….

[sa_butta]

I hope they get rid of the ring. It simply does not work in MMA.

I didnt like it either, seems to just get in the way.

[ATRAIN]

can you imagine Herring vs Brock on top of a cage?

Hell IN a Cell hahahaha.

[sa_butta]

the Cage is the way to go.. Maybe a ring with a cage like in wrestling hahaha just kidding.

Can you imagine Silva, Griffin, Liddell and Rampage all in the same time in a cage match??

[Evan]

Can you imagine Silva, Griffin, Liddell and Rampage all in the same time in a cage match??

It would probably be the coolest thing on TV of all time…hahahahah

[ATRAIN]

Can you imagine Silva, Griffin, Liddell and Rampage all in the same time in a cage match??

Fatal 4 way hahahah, either that or tag team fighting. 1 round 1 guy 1 round another.

[Evan]

Fatal 4 way hahahah, either that or tag team fighting. 1 round 1 guy 1 round another.

As dumb as it sounds…if you were an org showing your last show…why not?

[sa_butta]

Fatal 4 way hahahah, either that or tag team fighting. 1 round 1 guy 1 round another.
I bet Fedor could set some kind of record if they kept bringing in guys one after another. I could just see bodies laying everywhere.:lol

[ATRAIN]

As dumb as it sounds…if you were an org showing your last show…why not?

ok ok back to Topic, so do you guys see Affliction staying around? Does anyone know the purses that were paid out? Also do we know what kind of profits they made?

[ATRAIN]

I bet Fedor could set some kind of record if they kept bringing in guys one after another. I could just see bodies laying everywhere.:lol

Gauntlet match huh?hahah I would pay to see that.

[sa_butta]

As dumb as it sounds…if you were an org showing your last show…why not?
Yeah maybe a one time thing, but if it was done regularly it would cause a mess for MMA.

[ATRAIN]

Or a MMA Royal Rumble. A new guy every 2 mins runs into the cage until 30 have entered. Last man standing.

[ATRAIN]

Yeah maybe a one time thing, but if it was done regularly it would cause a mess for MMA.

Nah I dont even want to see it happen once because that would be the day MMA dies.

[sa_butta]

ok ok back to Topic, so do you guys see Affliction staying around? Does anyone know the purses that were paid out? Also do we know what kind of profits they made?The thing is if Affliction can keep getting good cards consistantly, then they will stay around as a top product for MMA fans.

"Affliction’s card for July 19th is estimated to cost AT LEAST $6 million with $1.5 million to go to Fedor and $800,000 to Sylvia."

http://www.mmachump.com/2008/06/afflictions-6-million-purse/

[Evan]

Nah I dont even want to see it happen once because that would be the day MMA dies.

Agree.

[LEONARD]

Atencio denounced the $6M payroll rumors...I guess we'll find out soon though...

Atencio said they'd do 3 shows and then see where they're at...

No way they made money on this card...

I don't have a huge problem with the ring because it's so much better for the fan as far as seeing what's happening goes. I do have a problem with poorly setup rings. The IFL has the best ring that I've seen. VERY tight ropes and very hard to fall through. Affliction was sloppy which made it easy for you fall through. The worst ring was the one used on "Iron Ring" on BET. It was like rubber bands...terrible.

[ATRAIN]

The thing is if Affliction can keep getting good cards consistantly, then they will stay around as a top product for MMA fans.

"Affliction’s card for July 19th is estimated to cost AT LEAST $6 million with $1.5 million to go to Fedor and $800,000 to Sylvia."

http://www.mmachump.com/2008/06/afflictions-6-million-purse/

Well its not like Affliction can't afford it with their t shirts going for 50+ a pop. Well I am happy to see competition since I am not sure what I think about Elite XC.

[Evan]

No way they made money on this card....

He said it was a priority.

[Evan]

Well its not like Affliction can't afford it with their t shirts going for 50+ a pop. Well I am happy to see competition since I am not sure what I think about Elite XC.

Its so odd…must be a west coast thing because I have only seen a few affliction shirts..one one some meathead at Kroger and another on some guy behind the counter at a gas station. Who is buying those hideous rags?

[sa_butta]

Well its not like Affliction can't afford it with their t shirts going for 50+ a pop. Well I am happy to see competition since I am not sure what I think about Elite XC.
Elite XC is has a lot of work to do. They dont really have the big names they need to succeed. I will be interested to see Lawler and Smith II. They need to get another Kimbo card and try to stack it up.

[ATRAIN]

Its so odd…must be a west coast thing because I have only seen a few affliction shirts..one one some meathead at Kroger and another on some guy behind the counter at a gas station. Who is buying those hideous rags?

Actually I dont see them as much as I used too but a lot of guys out at bars and what not sport them. I have some friends that wear them but yeah I dont see myself spending that much for a t shirt.

[sa_butta]

ANAHEIM, Calif. – The landscape of the mixed martial arts business may have changed Saturday night as the debuting Affliction promotion came out of its debut show with the potential for several of the biggest heavyweight marquee matches in the sport.

The myth of the quiet but unbeatable Russian, Fedor Emelianenko, turned into an undisputed reality as he destroyed former two-time UFC heavyweight champion Tim Sylvia in a scant 36 seconds in the main event at the Honda Center. Emelianenko, 28-1, who was the PRIDE heavyweight champion from 2003 until the company closed in 2007, became the first World Alliance of Mixed Martial arts heavyweight champion with the win.
It was billed as for the first undisputed world heavyweight title, although clearly “undisputed” is the wrong word to describe the first title created by an outside sanctioning body as opposed to a champion declared by a promotional company.

The industry already has two UFC heavyweight champions, in Randy Couture, the last champion who never lost, and Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, who the company is recognizing as interim champion due to Couture’s resignation from the organization. There will be an Elite XC champion after a match with Antonio Silva vs. Justin Eilers on Saturday night in Stockton, Calif. Strikeforce also has a heavyweight champion in Alistair Overeem and IFL has one in Roy Nelson.
Emelianenko, showing amazing reflexes for a heavyweight, came out throwing punches before Sylvia even realized what hit him. The 6-foot-8 fighter, who weighed 263 at weigh-ins but was probably closer to 280 come fight time, went down from the initial barrage. Emelianenko, 6 feet and 230 pounds, choked him out on the ground before the sellout crowd of 13,988.
“I was very pleased with my performance,” said Emelianenko after the match. “Everything I wanted to do, I was able to do.”
“I was prepared to stand up, but I knew I had a better chance to end it on the ground.”
“I know I’m one of the best heavyweights in the world, and I was amazed at him,” said Sylvia. “I really don’t think that he’s human.”
Emelianenko laughed about the comment.
“I’m human,” he said, noting his thumb came out of its socket during the flurry. “I thought I was the guy to beat him,” said Sylvia. “But I’ve never been hit so hard. I think it was a choke across the windpipe because that hurts. But my pride’s hurt, that’s about it.”
The bigger picture after a night in which UFC and Affliction went head-to-head, is not who had the better show, or were seen by the most fans (UFC on Spike TV undoubtedly drew the larger audience), but what it builds for the future.
The Affliction show, with a packed house, had a major-event atmosphere that was a stark difference from most of the promotional opponents UFC has faced off against over the past few years.
Several fighters, most notably former UFC heavyweight champions Andrei Arlovski and Josh Barnett, came across as potential superstars. The key is how well this first show did on pay-per-view, and if expected major losses in putting together such a loaded debut card affect the company going forward. Promoter Tom Atencio talked about a second show in November, and indicated he would like to match Emelianenko vs. Couture, but negotiating the match is out of his hands right now.
Such a match would only be possible if Couture was able to get out of his UFC contract, which from a time frame expires in October, but UFC is claiming Couture owes them two more fights on the four-fight deal signed in early 2007. Ultimately, the courts will decide if and when this match can take place.
Emelianenko vs. Couture, if promoted by UFC, would undoubtedly be the biggest money MMA match in history. However, there is virtually no chance that will happen in that organization. But whatever potential that fight had Friday was magnified by Emelianenko’s performance Saturday.
“Every fighter has his strengths and weaknesses,” said Emelianenko. “Randy has many strenghts, but I can see weaknesses. It’s a matter of taking advantage of the weaknesses. A match between us would depend on who took advantage of the others’ weaknesses.”
The night couldn’t have finished better for the new group after a rocky start to a card that featured just two fights in the first two hours. Not only did Emelianenko answer all critics who questioned whether he had lost a step in the three years since he had faced a legitimate top-ranked opponent, but two potential opponents past Couture were also established.
Arlovski, who left the UFC upon taking a bigger money offer from Affliction, had his best all-around performance in years to establish another potentially lucrative match.
Arlovski, a Belarussan who has been living in Chicago for years, knocked out a game Ben Rothwell in impressive fashion at 1:13 of the third round in the match that stole the show.
Josh Barnett of Seattle avenged a 2001 loss to Pedro Rizzo by scoring a knockout at 0:44 of the second round. Barnett spent the past five years mostly fighting in Japan after being stripped of the title due to a steroid test.
“It was redemption for seven years ago, but seven years is a long time,” said Barnett. “I’m really upset that it was Pedro. He’s a really special person. I’d have rather knocked out somebody else.”
Barnett knows Emelianenko well as they spent years together working on the same shows in Japan.
“He’s a good friend and has an incredible character,” said Barnett. “We have the traits that we can have a great fight.”

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dm-mmachange071908&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[ATRAIN]

Elite XC is has a lot of work to do. They dont really have the big names they need to succeed. I will be interested to see Lawler and Smith II. They need to get another Kimbo card and try to stack it up.

Yeah and then the Nick Diaz vs KJ Noons II should be on that card too.

[djohn14]

Danas take on Affliction....411 mania/mma



During the post-fight press conference for UFC Fight Night 14, UFC President Dana White had the following to say about Affliction's PPV debut that same evening:

"I figure after tonight those guys will be out of business, and all those (fighters) will be over here."

"They spent a lot of money tonight. And I know more about this business than they do. When you spend a lot of money and you don't get that money back, you usually go out of business. Talk to the IFL, they know all about it."

[Evan]

Danas take on Affliction....411 mania/mma



During the post-fight press conference for UFC Fight Night 14, UFC President Dana White had the following to say about Affliction's PPV debut that same evening:

"I figure after tonight those guys will be out of business, and all those (fighters) will be over here."

"They spent a lot of money tonight. And I know more about this business than they do. When you spend a lot of money and you don't get that money back, you usually go out of business. Talk to the IFL, they know all about it."

-ouch-

[ATRAIN]

-ouch-

Doesnt UFC own IFL as well?

[djohn14]

Doesnt UFC own IFL as well?

I dont think so...I could be wrong, but I thought IFL was a league of its own. I do however think the UFC is in talks to buy it.

[Evan]

Doesnt UFC own IFL as well?

Gray area but most likely soon. Their going to fold it after they skim off any fighters they want.

[Evan]

The IFL and WFA opened up with a lot of cash.

[ATRAIN]

I dont think so...I could be wrong, but I thought IFL was a league of its own. I do however think the UFC is in talks to buy it.

Oh ok I thought they bought them already.

[Evan]

Oh ok I thought they bought them already.

Depends on what website you read. All I know is they suddenly have several IFL fighters and used footage Saturday but nothing has been announced. So something is happening for sure.

[ATRAIN]

So is Tito already signed with Affliction or is he being courted?

[Evan]

So is Tito already signed with Affliction or is he being courted?

I am sure there is a power play going on with the financial aspects…they probably have to get a better idea of PPV dollars to see if they can afford it.

[dallaskd]

Danas take on Affliction....411 mania/mma



During the post-fight press conference for UFC Fight Night 14, UFC President Dana White had the following to say about Affliction's PPV debut that same evening:

"I figure after tonight those guys will be out of business, and all those (fighters) will be over here."

"They spent a lot of money tonight. And I know more about this business than they do. When you spend a lot of money and you don't get that money back, you usually go out of business. Talk to the IFL, they know all about it."


damn. :lol

[Evan]

someone posted this on mmajunkie...take it for whats it's worth...which is probably not much.


**SIDE NOTE****
My sister in law works for DIRECT TV. She said typically on BIG PAY PER VIEW NIGHTS - UFC, De La Hoya, WWE events that her department has an extra 10 people to work the phones. She said they didn't have any extras on Saturday when I asked her. She said she only took 4 orders for the Affliction fight and typically for WWE or UFC she takes around 40-50.

Not sure what that means but we could see about 10% of the buys that the UFC would typically get.
I would put the OVER/UNDER of Affliction buys at 55,000.

[LEONARD]

Watch how he swats Tim's left (jab) down and leaps in with his left... :ihit
http://koti.tnnet.fi/hiost/affliction/fuck_the_decision_jab.gif

[LEONARD]

http://koti.tnnet.fi/hiost/affliction/drop_big.gif

http://koti.tnnet.fi/hiost/affliction/tapout2_big.gif

[Evan]

MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) today received the list of salaries from the California State Athletic Commission. The event took place this past Saturday at the Honda Center in Anaheim.

In addition to the headliners, other top earners included Andrei Arlovski ($750,000), Matt Lindland ($300,000) and Josh Barnett ($300,000).

The total disclosed payroll for the event was $3,332,100.

The full list of salaries included:

Fedor Emelianenko: $300,000 (no win bonus)
def. Tim Sylvia: $800,000

Andrei Arlovski: $750,000 (includes $250,000 win bonus)
def. Ben Rothell: $250,000

Josh Barnett: $300,000 (no win bonus)
def. Pedro Rizzo: $70,000

Mark Hominick: $10,000 (includes $5,000 win bonus)
def. Savant Young: $7,000

Renato "Babalu" Sobral: $90,000 (includes $30,000 win bonus)
def: Mike Whitehead: $50,000

Matt Lindland: $300,000 (includes $75,000 win bonus)
def. Fabio Nascimento: $20,00O

Antonio Rogerio Nogueira: $50,000 (no win bonus)
def. Edwin Dewees: $15,000

Mike Pyle: $20,000 (includes $5,000 win bonus)
JJ Ambrose: $5,000

Ray Lizama: $3,000
vs. Justin Levens: $6000*

Vitor Belfort: $140,000 (includes $70,000 win bonus)
Terry Martin: $30,000

Paul Buentello: $80,000 (includes $20,000 win bonus)
vs. Gary Goodridge: $25,000

[dbreiden83080]

Fedor Emelianenko: $300,000 (no win bonus)
def. Tim Sylvia: $800,000

Andrei Arlovski: $750,000 (includes $250,000 win bonus)
def. Ben Rothell: $250,000


WTF they paid Sylvia 800,000 to get choked out in 36 seconds, :lmao

How does Fedor only get 300,000 and no win bonus?? People were more there to see him than Sylvia, i would think. Unless people just love booing Tim that much. :lol

No wonder Andre left the UFC, that is a nice payday.

[Evan]

WTF they paid Sylvia 800,000 to get choked out in 36 seconds, :lmao

How does Fedor only get 300,000 and no win bonus?? People were more there to see him than Sylvia, i would think. Unless people just love booing Tim that much. :lol

No wonder Andre left the UFC, that is a nice payday.

2 things.

Fedor most likely gets points of PPV buys or got money up front.

They had better sold a sh-t load of PPV's to even break even.

[angelbelow]

fedor has a huge contract already, and this was fight salary may have been the bonus.

[djohn14]

Here are the attendance and gate figures for this past weekend's Affliction "Banned" PPV courtesy of MMAWeekly.com:

Attendance:

Paid Attendance: 11,242 ($2,085,510 in ticket value)

Complimentary Attendance: 3,590 ($600,500 in ticket value)

Unsold tickets: 740 ($157,400 in ticket value)

Total Attendance: 14,832

*Affliction "Banned" Paid Attendance Total: $2,085,510

*Affliction "Banned" Fighter Payroll Total: $3,321,000

*As reported by the CSAC

[oligarchy]

even if they fight, does anyone actually see randy courture winning?

Unfortunately, no.

[Evan]

I think Randy will frustrate Fedor a bit…perhaps make it one round. Perhaps. That in itself is a victory of sorts. Hah..

Deep inside he must be like

"I lost so many fans, spent 6 figures on legal fess, tarnished my image…to fight that machine……"

Sadly this all boils down to Randy not getting a bonus check after his last fight and his famoly not getting comped hotel rooms. That has gotten lost in all of this

[johnsmith]

I don't know anything about MMA, but I know Affliction clothing is the new douche bag clothing line.

They're like the puffy pants of the new millennium.

[N.Y. Johnny]

I don't know anything about MMA, but I know Affliction clothing is the new douche bag clothing line.

They're like the puffy pants of the new millennium.



You can say that again. Its sad when someone wears and affliction shirt and has no clue what the logos are about and what "affliction" is. Pathetic. :bang

[Evan]

I don't know anything about MMA, but I know Affliction clothing is the new douche bag clothing line.

They're like the puffy pants of the new millennium.

There isn't a person alive who is a MMA fan that would disagree with you.

[dbreiden83080]

I think Randy will frustrate Fedor a bit…perhaps make it one round. Perhaps. That in itself is a victory of sorts. Hah..

Deep inside he must be like

"I lost so many fans, spent 6 figures on legal fess, tarnished my image…to fight that machine……"

Sadly this all boils down to Randy not getting a bonus check after his last fight and his famoly not getting comped hotel rooms. That has gotten lost in all of this

Sad but true. Whenever this does happen at the end of it all, it will not have been worth it for Randy to do this. He have up a cushy announcing GIG, tons of money and as you said tons of fans, to fight a guy who is basically unbeatable right now. I mean he made Sylvia look like a rookie fighter in that fight.

[Evan]

Sad but true. Whenever this does happen at the end of it all, it will not have been worth it for Randy to do this. He have up a cushy announcing GIG, tons of money and as you said tons of fans, to fight a guy who is basically unbeatable right now. I mean he made Sylvia look like a rookie fighter in that fight.

MMA is like other sports...some of the guys have AWFUL management.

[ATRAIN]

You can say that again. Its sad when someone wears and affliction shirt and has no clue what the logos are about and what "affliction" is. Pathetic. :bang

LOL this guy that was watching the fight at my friends was wearing an Affliction shirt and said oh wow I am wearing this shirt and had no idea they were into fighting.

[Evan]

Affliction says it may top 100k buys.

http://www.mmapayout.com/2008/07/affliction-vp-atencio-definitely-beyond-100000-buys/

Good for them if they do.

[LEONARD]

-"My next opponent is Andrei Arlovski"

- "The next Affliction event is supposed to be in November, but we'll try to make it in October so I can prepare for the NYE in Japan"

-I don't know who is going to be my opponent in the Dream NYE but I want to fight Josh Barnett in the US in March.

http://www.fightsport.fr/modules.ph...cle&sid=784

-----------------

I forgot about the M-1 reality show "Fighting Fedor"...
http://www.fightlinker.com/?p=2668

assuming that's still going on?? Who knows...

it does say "or another top fighter” as well...

I bet he fights Semmy Schilt on NYE since he's called Fedor out recently and he's a big draw in Japan...

[Evan]

Interesting

Andrei is supposed to make his boxing debut around then I thought. On a HBO card methinks. I can't see how that would work IF true. Maybe they know way more about Randy than we do and everyone has just given up.

As far as Semmy Schilt…he's a can but that doesn't matter anymore. Fedor will always have a weird fight to make the Japanese happy and as long as he's doing good fights the rest of the year who cares….he can fight Zulu every NYE now for all I care as long as its balanced out.

[LEONARD]

Evan...come on...you can't call Schilt a can!! You can't compare him to freakin' Zulu... :lol

He's been the top HW kickboxer in the world for the past 2 yrs...

and he's 6-5 in MMA over the past 7 yrs with his losses being to Fedor, Nog, Sergei, and Barnett (twice)...and he's put up a pretty good fight in all of those fights.

He's a threat...not the ideal guy I'd like to see him fight, but a fight I'm interested in regardless...

[Evan]

Evan...come on...you can't call Schilt a can!! You can't compare him to freakin' Zulu... :lol

He's been the top HW kickboxer in the world for the past 2 yrs...

and he's 6-5 in MMA over the past 7 yrs with his losses being to Fedor, Nog, Sergei, and Barnett (twice)...and he's put up a pretty good fight in all of those fights.

He's a threat...not the ideal guy I'd like to see him fight, but a fight I'm interested in regardless...

meh....... sure I can.

He may have lost to some of the best but he hasn't beaten anyone worth mentioning either unless we're suddenly signing the praises of Gan McGee. Japanese padding stats mean little.

I have no problem with Fedor fighting his typical 1 freakshow fight a year anymore so I have no problem with Schilt but to not consider him a can makes no sense.

[LEONARD]

Schilt would smash Tim Sylvia... :ihit

[Evan]

Schilt would smash Tim Sylvia... :ihit

Semmy Schilt should probably do something in MMA before we can talk about him beating anyone in the top 50.

The only person who we can fairly talk about him fighting is Antoni Hardonk because of their backgrounds.

[djohn14]

Schilt would smash Tim Sylvia... :ihit

I would smash Tim Sylvia.:nope

[LEONARD]

Semmy Schilt should probably do something in MMA before we can talk about him beating anyone in the top 50.

The only person who we can fairly talk about him fighting is Antoni Hardonk because of their backgrounds.

He’s faced a bunch of nobodies and 3 studs, and not many in between. I give him some credit for…

Decision with Fedor
3rd rd with Barnett
9 min with Sergei

You can’t be a “can” and last that long with those guys…


I would smash Tim Sylvia.:nope

Come on now...

Say what you want about Tim, but he’s only lost 5 times all to top guys, and he’s a tough guy to finish. Nobody has every dominated him like Fedor dominated him. I knew if Fedor smoked Tim people would start questioning Tim’s abilities… :lol

[Evan]

He’s found a bunch of nobodies and 3 studs, and not many in between. I give him some credit for…

Decision with Fedor
3rd rd with Barnett
9 min with Sergei

You can’t be a “can” and last that long with those guys…


coulda-woulda-shoulda :wakeup

[djohn14]

Come on now...

Say what you want about Tim, but he’s only lost 5 times all to top guys, and he’s a tough guy to finish. Nobody has every dominated him like Fedor dominated him. I knew if Fedor smoked Tim people would start questioning Tim’s abilities… :lol
Nah...Ive just never liked Tim since his days of beating Arlovski.

[Evan]

Very fair and very balanced write up on the UFC and Affliction

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/ben_fowlkes/07/24/future.affliction/index.html?eref=T1

In my opinion Ben Fowlkes is the best MMA writer around. He used to write for the IFL website and 5ozofpain. He is very unbiased which is so rare in MMA commentary.

[ATRAIN]

Nah...Ive just never liked Tim since his days of beating Arlovski.

Same here I can't stand that big dumb oaf tim!! Fedor did demolish him though.

[Evan]

The problem with Tim is

He is dumb
Goofy
And at best he is a average fighter who is just big

[djohn14]

The problem with Tim is

He is dumb
Goofy
And at best he is a average fighter who is just big

Exactly and he is so big that some people are afraid to take the fight to him.

[LEONARD]

if you haven't seen Genghis Con's Fedor video...
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2zeui_fedor-by-genghis-con_sport

[angelbelow]

fedor and arlovski is in the works.

[dallaskd]

fedor and arlovski is in the works.

Arlovksi will give Fedor a tougher test than timmy, especially on the feet. but still a first round sub for fedor. maybe andre could make it to the second round. who knows.

[djohn14]

The California State Athletic Commission has announced the medical suspensions for the fighters who competed at Affliction "Banned" on July 19:

-Fedor Emelianenko has been suspended for 180 days with no contact for 180 days due to a right-hand injury. He can be cleared early by an orthopedic doctor.

-Tim Sylvia has been suspended for 180 days with no contact for 180 days due to a left-elbow injury. He can be cleared early by an orthopedic doctor.

-Ben Rothwell has been suspended for 60 days with no contact for 60 days due to an ear lobe laceration. He can be cleared early by a doctor, however he still has a minimum suspension of 45 days with no contact for 30 days for precautionary reasons.

-Pedro Rizzo has been suspended for 45 days with no contact for 30 days for precautionary reasons.

-Edwin Dewees has been suspended for 180 days with no contact for 180 days due to undisclosed reasons. He can be cleared early by a doctor, however he still has a minimum suspension of 45 days with no contact for 30 days for precautionary reasons.

-Vitor Belfort has been suspended for 180 days with no contact for 180 days for undisclosed reasons. He can be cleared early by a doctor.

-Terry Martin has been suspended for 45 days with no contact for 30 days for precautionary reasons.

-Mike Whitehead has been suspended for 180 days with no contact for 180 days due to a left-hand injury. He can be cleared early by a doctor.

-Fabio Negao has been suspended 45 days with no contact for 30 days for precautionary reasons.

[Evan]

sigh.............



Dave Meltzer reported that Tom Attencio will allegedly ask fighters to take a 50% pay cut to work the Las Vegas show in October. Zach Arnold interviewed Josh Barnett, and reports on his reply here:

Barnett replied by saying that he was not going to take a pay cut to fight.

In addition, when asked about whether or not he’ll fight Fedor, Mr. Barnett said that it’s not up to him as far as whether or not the fight gets booked. He wants to fight Fedor, but can’t worry about the politics surrounding why the fight hasn’t been booked.

I think everyone knew those salaries were unsustainable. While I'm very excited for the second Affliction show, I am tempering my excitement because Fedor's name has been removed from the Thomas and Mack Center's Affliction page, and we still don't really know if he's been signed to anything. I highly doubt Fedor's team will accept a pay cut.

Note: Fedor's name was on that page at one time, and now it's gone. That absolutely does not mean he is off the show, it's just something that was pointed out to me.

[LEONARD]

Such a buzz-kill...

[Evan]

Such a buzz-kill...

Totally.

This is what happens when you try to do it all over night.

I know I keep saying this but why can't the f*ckers be patient and build up slowly yet surely?!?!?!

[Evan]

The promotion has talked with some fighters about doing the 10/11 show for 50% of what they made on the first show (cutting down the payroll) but in return they would give those fighters easy opponents.

[LEONARD]

W T F !!!!!!!!??????????

Affliction / Atencio = joke

I want Fedor - Arlovski god damnit...

[Evan]

I'm not sure they could make anymore bad moves if they tried.

[tlongII]

I want Fedor vs Couture. It has to happen.

[LEONARD]

Uh oh...
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=6805

[Evan]

damn...not good

[angelbelow]

wow..

[djohn14]

Thats pathetic!

[Evan]

and it keeps getting worse


FiveOuncesOfPain.com learned late Friday that a proposed main event for Affliction’s second-ever show on Oct. 11 between WAMMA heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko and Andrei Arlovski appears to be off for the time being.

[djohn14]

Evan...must you insist on ruining my night? Lol...but sad..

[Evan]

Evan...must you insist on ruining my night? Lol...but sad..



:hat

[angelbelow]

and it keeps getting worse

...........:depressed

[LEONARD]

Fedor just needs to get his ass to the UFC...you'd think that Nog holding the belt would make it an easier decision...

[Evan]

Fedor just needs to get his ass to the UFC...you'd think that Nog holding the belt would make it an easier decision...

His managers are shitting all over his career.

I don't believe his hand is the only reason this is called off for now.

[angelbelow]

Fedor just needs to get his ass to the UFC...you'd think that Nog holding the belt would make it an easier decision...not

really anything he can do about it.