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mrsmaalox
07-10-2008, 09:52 AM
Realities of One-Night Stands Revealed


http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20080710/sc_livescience/realitiesofonenightstandsrevealed
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When it comes to one-night stands, men and women are poles apart. Guys just want, well, you know, while gals go to bed with the false impression of flattery and a craving for feeling desirable.

The upshot, according to new research, is great for most men and the pits for most women. The study goes further under the covers, delving into the nuances of casual sex and its potential as a Venus-and-Mars minefield.

Among the findings: Women were not hooking up in an effort to secure a long-term beau, but because they felt flattered by the overnight proposition.
They were mistaken.

As the researcher points out, men lower their standards when it comes to one-night stands, so the presumed flattery is a fantasy or close to it.

"Often [women] said things like, 'I felt so flattered, so happy that he found me attractive. It was so nice to be wanted,'" said researcher Anne Campbell, a psychologist at Durham University in England. "What women don't seem to see is that men drop their standards massively for a one-night stand."

She added, "No woman should be flattered because a man wants to have sex with her once."

Real feelings, real data

While most research on the topic of casual sex has relied on fictitious vignettes or just having participants imagine they had a one-night stand, the new findings are based on self-reports of feelings following an actual hook-up.

Campbell says in the June issue of the journal Human Nature that the findings suggest women are not well adapted to promiscuity.

Women have much more to lose, while men are in a win-win situation. For the ladies, a baby on the way is a huge responsibility, but a guy can just bail.

"The bottom line is the risks are potentially greater for women," said Todd Shackelford, an evolutionary psychologist at Florida Atlantic University who was not involved in the current study. "It's not surprising they indicate the experience is somewhat less positive, but importantly somewhat more negative."

However, promiscuity does offer natural advantages for women from an evolutionary perspective, Shackelford said. These advantages could explain why women participate in one-night stands even though they feel so lousy afterward.

Flings provide women with the potential to snag the best genes for offspring or they could be spurred by a chemical nudge at the peak of the menstrual cycle.

The morning after

Campbell surveyed more than 3,300 individual, most of whome were between the ages of 17 and 40. Of the heterosexual respondents, more than half reported a one-night stand, about evenly split between men and women.

Overall women's morning-after feelings were more negative than men's. While 80 percent of men had overall positive feelings, just 54 percent of women had positive feelings.

Women predominantly reported "regret at being used," with additional comments including: "I felt cheap," "horrified afterward," and "I felt degraded. Made myself look cheap and easy. Total regret."

Contrary to popular belief, women said they didn't view casual sex as a prelude to a long-term relationship.

"It's not that they wanted the man to whisk them off and marry them," Campbell told LiveScience. "It's that they wanted the man to understand that they weren't like this normally. That they were doing this for him on this night as a particular event."

Men reported feelings of success since the partner was desirable to others and found the experiences much more sexually satisfying than women did.

Typical positive comments from men included: "euphoric," "excitement and lust," "I believe that one-night stands are a good way of blowing off steam."

For men who reported negative feelings, the prevailing tone was one of emptiness and loneliness.

Why women do it

Why then, if women feel so crappy after a casual roll in the hay, do they hop in again?

They could be collecting healthy genes for their offspring. So even if a woman can't score a lengthy relationship with a guy whose sperm could offer, say, disease-resistant genes or genes for a particular kind of intelligence, her thinking might be, "Why not grab the guy for sex?"

"If you've got a Brad Pitt character - absolutely gorgeous and incredibly loaded with money and so on - the chances of getting him to commit himself to you for the rest of your life are pretty slim," Campbell said. "But the chances of him giving you a half an hour on a Wednesday afternoon in a hotel are probably much better."

tlongII
07-10-2008, 10:01 AM
This information should not be made public.

BacktoBasics
07-10-2008, 10:01 AM
Why can't women just want to fuck like we do? god damn women complicate everything.

JoeChalupa
07-10-2008, 10:03 AM
I always felt dirty and used after a one-night stand.

Viva Las Espuelas
07-10-2008, 10:03 AM
i think women are more complicated than figuring out why we're here.

JoeChalupa
07-10-2008, 10:04 AM
Why can't women just want to fuck like we do? god damn women complicate everything.

That is why the booty call is tops. Back before I got married I had a few girls who didn't even want to kiss. Just come over, do it, talk for a bit and go home. :tu

BacktoBasics
07-10-2008, 10:05 AM
That is why the booty call is tops. Back before I got married I had a few girls who didn't even want to kiss. Just come over, do it, talk for a bit and go home. :tu
Dying breed

peewee's lovechild
07-10-2008, 10:07 AM
Feelings are overrated.

JoeChalupa
07-10-2008, 10:09 AM
Dying breed

you think so? I see all these reports about how kids as young as 13-15 are having "hook ups" with no "relationship" issues to deal with.

mrsmaalox
07-10-2008, 10:09 AM
Why can't women just want to fuck like we do? god damn women complicate everything.

See that was my whole point for posting this, I'm really surprised that these attitudes are so prevalent. I'm a woman, I've met lots of women in my life, and most of them really do just want to do it. But they just haven't gotten past the stigma that they are "sluts" if they admit it.

tlongII
07-10-2008, 10:10 AM
That is why the booty call is tops. Back before I got married I had a few girls who didn't even want to kiss. Just come over, do it, talk for a bit and go home. :tu

:tu

JoeChalupa
07-10-2008, 10:11 AM
Feelings are overrated.

I don't know about that. I get a great feeling when I'm having sex.

to21
07-10-2008, 10:17 AM
One night stands make u a better person ladies. That way when u meet ur future husband and you get married, you'll be the freak u should be.

peewee's lovechild
07-10-2008, 10:19 AM
I don't know about that. I get a great feeling when I'm having sex.

Lovie-dovie feelings.

BacktoBasics
07-10-2008, 10:22 AM
See that was my whole point for posting this, I'm really surprised that these attitudes are so prevalent. I'm a woman, I've met lots of women in my life, and most of them really do just want to do it. But they just haven't gotten past the stigma that they are "sluts" if they admit it.Go ahead and have them PM me.

1369
07-10-2008, 10:51 AM
As the researcher points out, men lower their standards when it comes to one-night stands, so the presumed flattery is a fantasy or close to it.

"And next on Nightline: Water is wet, the sky is blue, and the Pope wears a funny hat."

remingtonbo2001
07-10-2008, 11:35 AM
Lovie-dovie feelings.

Smoochie Smoochie.

peewee's lovechild
07-10-2008, 11:37 AM
Smoochie Smoochie.

That.

Viva Las Espuelas
07-10-2008, 11:59 AM
the realities of a one night stand is that bodily fluids were exchanged. nothing really beyond that.

Brutalis
07-10-2008, 12:06 PM
Looks like someone is needing some validation to spread her legs.

Aggie Hoopsfan
07-10-2008, 12:20 PM
See that was my whole point for posting this, I'm really surprised that these attitudes are so prevalent. I'm a woman, I've met lots of women in my life, and most of them really do just want to do it. But they just haven't gotten past the stigma that they are "sluts" if they admit it.

There's a ton of 'just want sex' types up here in Dallas. I think the women think that way more than the guys do, if it's possible :lol

Viva Las Espuelas
07-10-2008, 12:23 PM
There's a ton of 'just want sex' types up here in Dallas. I think the women think that way more than the guys do, if it's possible :lol

i fully endorse this statement, and ahf, it's overwhelmingly possible.

CuckingFunt
07-10-2008, 12:50 PM
I've never had a one-night stand with a man, but it's not because I have an aversion to casual sex.

I've never had a problem separating sex from relationships and can easily get physical without that kind of emotional attachment, but there has to be at least some level of trust there. And an understanding that we're both on the same page about what is or isn't expected after the hook-up. That's the part that I usually find is lacking with a guy I've just met, so I've just never gone there. Huge fan of having friends with benefits, though.

Spurminator
07-10-2008, 12:59 PM
"What women don't seem to see is that men drop their standards massively for a one-night stand."

She added, "No woman should be flattered because a man wants to have sex with her once."

Why not? We may lower our standards but we don't completely ABANDON them... :lol Dr. Anne Campbell almost sounds bitter.

mrsmaalox
07-10-2008, 01:09 PM
I've never had a one-night stand with a man, but it's not because I have an aversion to casual sex.

I've never had a problem separating sex from relationships and can easily get physical without that kind of emotional attachment, but there has to be at least some level of trust there. And an understanding that we're both on the same page about what is or isn't expected after the hook-up. That's the part that I usually find is lacking with a guy I've just met, so I've just never gone there. Huge fan of having friends with benefits, though.

I agree 100% on the trust part. I think women would generally be more comfortable expressing themselves sexually if men's attitudes were a little different. If two people are looking for the same thing, it's equal; but there's a good chance that the next day the guy is going to be out shooting his mouth off or posting on some forum about the slut he nailed the night before. If both were after the same thing, why does the woman automatically become the joke?
Men would be smart to realize that a little bit of decorum would get them a lot more of what they want.

Viva Las Espuelas
07-10-2008, 01:18 PM
; but there's a good chance that the next day the guy is going to be out shooting his mouth off or posting on some forum about the slut he nailed the night before. If both were after the same thing, why does the woman automatically become the joke? that can easily be done by the woman as well, and women are way more vicious at it


Men would be smart to realize that a little bit of decorum would get them a lot more of what they want.as usual it is always the man that has to go through the hoops.

RandomGuy
07-10-2008, 01:22 PM
I agree 100% on the trust part. I think women would generally be more comfortable expressing themselves sexually if men's attitudes were a little different. If two people are looking for the same thing, it's equal; but there's a good chance that the next day the guy is going to be out shooting his mouth off or posting on some forum about the slut he nailed the night before. If both were after the same thing, why does the woman automatically become the joke?
Men would be smart to realize that a little bit of decorum would get them a lot more of what they want.

Yuppers. As a somewhat older, 35ish married guy long out of the game, I have come to realize that a relatively mature approach would have done wonders for my younger self.

Yet another thing I wish I could download into the brain of the 19 year old version of RandomGuy. God, he was a dumbass. :lol

I was never the bragging kind, but just didn't quite get the hang of women until being married to one for 13 years.

mrsmaalox
07-10-2008, 01:25 PM
that can easily be done by the woman as well, and women are way more vicious at it

as usual it is always the man that has to go through the hoops.

I apologize for the generalization. But just in the course of my life and the experience I have discussing sex with other women, in my particular social circle, that is not the case. But you're right women can do it as well. I just don't think it is as common.
And I may be wrong, but I don't consider "privacy" and "discretion" jumping thru hoops!

Viva Las Espuelas
07-10-2008, 01:33 PM
And I may be wrong, but I don't consider "privacy" and "discretion" jumping thru hoops!privacy and discretion excluded. sorry. that opinion of mine just came from the fact that it seems the always has to conform to the woman. i'm not saying i subscribe to the clubbing-of-the-woman-over-the-head-and-take'em-to-my-cave-to-violate dogma, but that would be a whole hell of a lot easier. i know you have to "play the game", but it's pretty lop-sided in that part.

CuckingFunt
07-10-2008, 01:40 PM
I agree 100% on the trust part. I think women would generally be more comfortable expressing themselves sexually if men's attitudes were a little different. If two people are looking for the same thing, it's equal; but there's a good chance that the next day the guy is going to be out shooting his mouth off or posting on some forum about the slut he nailed the night before. If both were after the same thing, why does the woman automatically become the joke?
Men would be smart to realize that a little bit of decorum would get them a lot more of what they want.

My reference to trust had absolutely nothing to do with being talked about the next morning or various levels of decorum, for the record. Even in a one-night stand context, I don't see myself getting close enough to a man who was so obviously lacking in respect that calling me a slut the next day would even be a concern.

The context to which I was referring, however, had more to do with being honest about why you're fucking. I would need there to be enough trust for me to openly tell the guy that it's just sex and nothing more, and I would need there to be enough trust for him to openly tell me the same thing. For instance, guys who tell women that they're more important to him than they may actually be just to get her into bed have no room to complain when she's still expecting some sort of closeness or intimacy a few days later. And vice versa, frankly, because I know plenty of women who have used the same games to get men into bed.

ATRAIN
07-10-2008, 01:50 PM
See that was my whole point for posting this, I'm really surprised that these attitudes are so prevalent. I'm a woman, I've met lots of women in my life, and most of them really do just want to do it. But they just haven't gotten past the stigma that they are "sluts" if they admit it.

YOU Slut!!

ATRAIN
07-10-2008, 01:52 PM
Looks like someone is needing some validation to spread her legs.

You may be onto something there.

mrsmaalox
07-10-2008, 02:01 PM
My reference to trust had absolutely nothing to do with being talked about the next morning or various levels of decorum, for the record. Even in a one-night stand context, I don't see myself getting close enough to a man who was so obviously lacking in respect that calling me a slut the next day would even be a concern.

The context to which I was referring, however, had more to do with being honest about why you're fucking. I would need there to be enough trust for me to openly tell the guy that it's just sex and nothing more, and I would need there to be enough trust for him to openly tell me the same thing. For instance, guys who tell women that they're more important to him than they may actually be just to get her into bed have no room to complain when she's still expecting some sort of closeness or intimacy a few days later. And vice versa, frankly, because I know plenty of women who have used the same games to get men into bed.
That's what I meant too. For whatever reason two people decide to have sex, if they both agree it's cool. Ridiculing a person because you won't see them again is a violation of trust. Sure chances are you'll never know if you were talked about or not, but just hearing another woman being talked about that way could make it hard for others to be more trusting.

Viva Las Espuelas
07-10-2008, 02:06 PM
YOU Slut!!
ouch.

on a much lighter note, nice add to your sig.

CuckingFunt
07-10-2008, 02:06 PM
That's what I meant too. For whatever reason two people decide to have sex, if they both agree it's cool. Ridiculing a person because you won't see them again is a violation of trust. Sure chances are you'll never know if you were talked about or not, but just hearing another woman being talked about that way could make it hard for others to be more trusting.

I guess, but... that's just too damn much worrying for me. I don't act like a slut, so it really never enters my mind that I would be talked about like one.




Well... except at SpursTalk, of course. Though I think my reputation here is closer to obnoxious know-it-all than attention whore slut, these days.

mrsmaalox
07-10-2008, 02:07 PM
YOU Slut!!


You may be onto something there.

Why don't you just run along outside and play, and let the grown ups talk?!

mrsmaalox
07-10-2008, 02:08 PM
I guess, but... that's just too damn much worrying for me. I don't act like a slut, so it really never enters my mind that I would be talked about like one.




Well... except at SpursTalk, of course. Though I think my reputation here is closer to obnoxious know-it-all than attention whore slut, these days.

You're telling me!! :lol

Viva Las Espuelas
07-10-2008, 02:14 PM
obnoxious know-it-all

being that you asked, that about does it for me. have a great rest of your thursday.

ATRAIN
07-10-2008, 02:38 PM
Why don't you just run along outside and play, and let the grown ups talk?!

by grown up do you mean the over 60 crowd. I wouldn't want to leave you talking to yourself.

Borosai
07-10-2008, 02:48 PM
Sex!

JoeChalupa
07-10-2008, 02:53 PM
Marriage rocks!!!!!