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tlongII
07-11-2008, 10:25 PM
18 points on 9 of 12 shooting in his first summer league game. Not too bad. Did the Spurs make a mistake? :huh

TheProfessor
07-11-2008, 10:37 PM
18 points on 9 of 12 shooting in his first summer league game. Not too bad. Did the Spurs make a mistake? :huh
Marco Belinelli.

ace3g
07-11-2008, 10:48 PM
he had 9 PF in 26 min of action against summer league players, not good

tlongII
07-11-2008, 11:21 PM
he had 9 PF in 26 min of action against summer league players, not good

Fouls are not important in summer league.

oligarchy
07-11-2008, 11:23 PM
Fouls are not important in summer league.

Funny how you pick and choose what's important in a summer league game.

K-State Spur
07-11-2008, 11:26 PM
he may end up having a better career than george hill.

but nobody is going to rue not drafting a guy who is too small to play PF, and lacks the skills to play SF. we're talking about a guy who would kill for Julian Wright's handle...

he was great in the championship game. but up until that point, Arthur got consistently outplayed (often dominated) by every other NBA prospect he went up against.

sure you knew that though, since you've watched so much of him and are an expert on his game and all.

spurman20
07-11-2008, 11:32 PM
We are talking about a lazy 6-7 wo shoes 215lb Power Forward...no shot form outside 15ft.....not a good post defender....and Oh has kidney issues already......which even if he can play makes you sluggish and saps your energy.....At best he is a poor mans Joe smith.

tlongII
07-11-2008, 11:46 PM
We're talking about an athletic 3/4 player who can score. One of the Spurs' biggest needs.

spurman20
07-11-2008, 11:50 PM
This guy is a bummmmmm and always will be. He is alot like Warwick from Mem....remember how he was sooooo great comming out of syacuse....Look what he has done in the pros.....I see this guy as a 12ppg on a bad team kinda guy and on a good team 8ppg max....Plus where would we even play him....

Kori Ellis
07-12-2008, 12:03 AM
Fouls are not important in summer league.

I agree with that. The refs are just learning too and tend to call way too many fouls on the inside.

Mr. Body
07-12-2008, 01:30 AM
Spurs should have picked him... not to keep, but to trade down for more value from their pick. They easily could have had Hill plus CDR.

ChumpDumper
07-12-2008, 03:41 AM
What if no one wanted to deal with the Spurs at that point?

IronMexican
07-12-2008, 04:04 AM
Hall of Famers are made in the Summer League.:lol

ChumpDumper
07-12-2008, 04:23 AM
Three rebounds?

Biggems
07-12-2008, 06:45 AM
We're talking about an athletic 3/4 player who can score. One of the Spurs' biggest needs.

I watched several of the Kansas games, mainly for Rush.....but also cause I am a Longhorns fan and I wanted to see the competition. Other than the championship game, I was not impressed with Arthur. IMO, Sasha Kaun made more of an impact for the Jayhawks throughout all of last year than Arthur. Kaun was a much better force inside, even though he is slow and unathletic.

Arthur may last in the NBA, but I see him as nothing but a journeyman role player.....I say if he is able to stick in the league, when he leaves the NBA, he will have played for at least 8 different teams.

K-State Spur
07-12-2008, 08:55 AM
We're talking about an athletic 3/4 player who can score. One of the Spurs' biggest needs.

Except he's not big/strong enough to man the 4. And he doesn't have the handle or range to play the 3. He's a defensive mismatch who doesn't create mismatches at the other end of the floor to force the opponent to adjust.

Udoka's a better option as the small ball 4.

Sissiborgo
07-12-2008, 10:12 AM
good

Sissiborgo
07-12-2008, 03:39 PM
yeah

ChumpDumper
07-13-2008, 01:59 AM
I notice tlong didn't mention Arthur's 3-11 shooting today.

anakha
07-13-2008, 02:12 AM
Selective memory is selective?

ChumpDumper
07-13-2008, 09:15 PM
1-7 today with 9 personal fouls.

Damn you, RC! You let another one get away!

picnroll
07-13-2008, 09:17 PM
Someone call 911. tlong is missing.

ChumpDumper
07-13-2008, 09:19 PM
He could still be a fine NBA player one day. Playing lots of minutes on a D-League team like the Grizzlies should help.

GSH
07-13-2008, 09:25 PM
18 points on 9 of 12 shooting in his first summer league game. Not too bad. Did the Spurs make a mistake? :huh


If the question is "should they have drafted him to play for the team?", the answwer is No. Period. He would have made good trade bait, especially on draft night. (I still say they could have gotten Hill plus a future draft pick.) Passing on Chalmers and CDR may prove to be a mistake, even if Hill lives up to his promise. But Arthur was never a fit here.

Solid D
07-13-2008, 09:28 PM
Having seen Darrell Arthur play many times (this is Big 12 country), many of us are well aware of his skills. I'd love to see him as a Spur some day.

ChumpDumper
07-13-2008, 09:32 PM
Having seen Darrell Arthur play many times (this is Big 12 country), many of us are well aware of his skills. I'd love to see him as a Spur some day.
Is that not Summit League country as well? :spin

Solid D
07-13-2008, 09:48 PM
:lol I guess the middle third of the country is physically Summit League country but they don't get much coverage on FoxSportsSW or ESPN unless one of their teams are playing early in the year against a Big 12 team. ORU probably gets the most notice around here.

K-State Spur
07-13-2008, 10:05 PM
Having seen Darrell Arthur play many times (this is Big 12 country), many of us are well aware of his skills. I'd love to see him as a Spur some day.

or lack of...

no handle, no range, and too small to play the post in the NBA.

jayc23
07-14-2008, 12:30 AM
SERIOUSLY how could spurs fans STILL weeks later be talking about CDR.... HE IS NOT A SPUR.. if you did not notice the spurs actually care that their players are not douche bags.... which from everything i can tell CDR is... Chalmers mabe.. but Chalmers DOES NOT have the all around game Hill does... he simply does NOT.

tlongII
07-14-2008, 12:33 AM
SERIOUSLY how could spurs fans STILL weeks later be talking about CDR.... HE IS NOT A SPUR.. if you did not notice the spurs actually care that their players are not douche bags.... which from everything i can tell CDR is... Chalmers mabe.. but Chalmers DOES NOT have the all around game Hill does... he simply does NOT.

That might be a good thing for Chalmers.

jayc23
07-14-2008, 12:39 AM
seriously ... you like have as much basketball knowledge as a wet dish cloth.

ChumpDumper
07-14-2008, 04:46 AM
That might be a good thing for Chalmers.How 'bout that Darrell Arthur?

K-State Spur
07-14-2008, 07:18 AM
That might be a good thing for Chalmers.

jumping jayhawks mid-thread i see?

tlongII
07-15-2008, 12:50 PM
I might as well *bump* this thread since Arthur scored 23 points yesterday on 10 of 15 shooting.

K-State Spur
07-15-2008, 01:03 PM
I might as well *bump* this thread since Arthur scored 23 points yesterday on 10 of 15 shooting.

it doesn't really matter whether he scores 2 or 25 in a summer league game where the majority of his competition will be lucky to play in the d-league.

he still has no range. he still can't dribble. he's still under 6'8. he's not particularly strong. his athletic ability is greatly overrated as his quickness is subpar.

when any of those things ceases to be true, then come back...

anakha
07-15-2008, 01:03 PM
I might as well *bump* this thread since Arthur scored 23 points yesterday on 10 of 15 shooting.

Where was this bumpage the previous games? :lol

ChumpDumper
07-15-2008, 01:53 PM
He's good at summer league half the time, or half good at summer league all the time :toast

He could be good. Needs to learn to play a little basketball, but who at SL doesn't?

2centsworth
07-15-2008, 02:11 PM
18pts being red hot vs 17pts being ice cold. I'll take the latter.

rj215
07-15-2008, 04:48 PM
Spurs should have picked him... not to keep, but to trade down for more value from their pick. They easily could have had Hill plus CDR.

+1

timvp
07-15-2008, 04:52 PM
A lot of people claim Arthur can play small forward but he looks like he has to play strictly power forward. Since he measured out as kinda short, that's probably not good news for Grizzly Fan.

ChumpDumper
07-15-2008, 04:55 PM
I didn't see anything in the way of perimeter skills from him, but he's got some nice Bo Outlaw energy.