Summer League Game 1: Spurs vs. Grizzlies

[Obstructed_View]

Somebody needs to make Ian some sammiches.

[mystargtr34]

Ian's legs are way to skinny.... i thought he put on more weight than that.... thin base.

He really has to bulk up a bit if he wants to even be able to defend 4s

[Mr. Body]

The Spurs need to wake up or else this will be a pretty disappointing start to summer league 2008 :depressed

You need to realize the 'big four' are not very talented. There's not a single stud on the team, just some guys who may someday be rotation players.

[Gino2882]

ROFL @ not taking Donte Greene for George Hill

BWAHA.

Anyone with a brain at this point could see. Greene would of made things A LOT easier for these Tim Duncan Spurs.

[Whisky Dog]

Donte Greene!

Yeah, I saw that after I had already posted.

[ceperez]

Mahinmi finally getting warmed up

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I hope this is all nerves and not playing in a system.

This is the first SL game for the Spurs. It's the fourth for Memphis. It's going to be okay.

[Mr. Body]

Looks like TD will be the only big worth a shit and TP will be the only PG worth a shit on this team next season.

I'm pretty sure Ginobili will be the only SG worth a shit on the team, too. Seriously, this team will be worse than last year's.

[Spurtacus]

Finally! Hill took it to the basket and drew a foul.

Mahinmi is about to kick someone's head off when he grabs a board. :lol

[2centsworth]

Hill is sneaky productive. Obviously a bad shooting night, but can understand because of the nerves. Dude still is the 2nd leading scorer and leading rebounder.

I like him. Plus, D looks pretty good.

[Obstructed_View]

Anyone with a brain at this point would know not to make judgments before a single game is even completed.

Try this one on for size.

[SPURSGOAT]

Gist better make it... I like what I have seen from him so far.

[Spurtacus]

This is the first SL game for the Spurs. It's the fourth for Memphis. It's going to be okay.

I didn't know this was Memphis' fourth game already!

[Kori Ellis]

Hmmm, Tolliver. 6'9", 240 pounds. Ditch Bonner, sign this kid :hat

I think he's actually 6'8, but he's very "Spur-like" in personality (Roger Powell is too.) Both very good guys. Tolliver's rep is that he's a little soft and backs away from contact. The Cavs really liked him in training camp last year and he was one of their last cuts.

[ducks]

why does mem have played 3 more summer league games then the spurs
wtf

[Mr. Body]

Hill has been rebounding well.

[mexicanjunior]

You need to realize the 'big four' are not very talented. There's not a single stud on the team, just some guys who may someday be rotation players.

Agreed, I didn't see anyone in that group that could do much better than what we had on the floor last year around the big 3 (4 with Bowen). That isn't very promising...

[Whisky Dog]

I'm pretty sure Ginobili will be the only SG worth a shit on the team, too. Seriously, this team will be worse than last year's.

I thought about that, but in fairness I'll give the new kid a chance to prove what he can do with some minutes before I label him not worth a shit. He did prove last season that he CAN be productive.

[GSH]

Hill doesn't look anywhere near as NBA-ready as Chalmers has in Summer League. You can blame it on first game jitters, but Chalmers didn't have them. At this point, you would have to say that Hill has some catching up to do, to be at the level of Chalmers. So unless you believe that he has a lot more upside than Chalmers, the pick is looking pretty weak.

The same things could be said about the comparison to CDR. It's not only the numbers. He just looks a lot more NBA-ready.

I hope Hill lives up to the Spurs' hopes. But to me it still looks like a guy who has to develop to become as good as some of the other guys already are.

[ducks]

Finally! Hill took it to the basket and drew a foul.

Mahinmi is about to kick someone's head off when he grabs a board. :lol

I think they are making him try to setup to much
and it is effecting his game

it is his first game

[2centsworth]

Hill is a baller.

[Borosai]

This is the first SL game for the Spurs. It's the fourth for Memphis. It's going to be okay.

I noticed that. I bet the schedule was created by the same people who planned the Western Conference finals. Rigged!

[ducks]

Hill doesn't look anywhere near as NBA-ready as Chalmers has in Summer League. You can blame it on first game jitters, but Chalmers didn't have them. At this point, you would have to say that Hill has some catching up to do, to be at the level of Chalmers. So unless you believe that he has a lot more upside than Chalmers, the pick is looking pretty weak.

The same things could be said about the comparison to CDR. It's not only the numbers. He just looks a lot more NBA-ready.

I hope Hill lives up to the Spurs' hopes. But to me it still looks like a guy who has to develop to become as good as some of the other guys already are.
one game means nothing
and mem has played 3 games against other people before tonight
spurs played no one

[timvp]

You need to realize the 'big four' are not very talented. There's not a single stud on the team, just some guys who may someday be rotation players.Obviously. No realistic person would think any of the summer league Big Four would be NBA studs.

[coopdogg3]

Weak call on Hill.

[DMX7]

Hill is good at drawing fouls but he doesn't have a very impressive game. Chalmers looks like twice the player he is.

[Spurtacus]

Just realized Mike Conley isn't playing for Memphis.

[ducks]

I like hill
atleast he rebounds well
someone needs to rebound when duncan and tp sit

[timvp]

That was an ugly shot by Hill.

[2centsworth]

I don't know what you guys are watching, but hill is putting up numbers.

[Mr. Body]

Obviously. No realistic person would think any of the summer league Big Four would be NBA studs.

You've got to be freaking kidding me. There are people all over the place slavering over how awesome Mahinmi and Hill will be.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Stone Cold theme music?

[ceperez]

Hill and Manhinmi better show that they can take over this game or it'll be a complete disappointment!

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Mahinmi is concerning me the most. Looks like the guy is the invisible man to me. This is not what we wanted to see out of "the saviour"..

[xellos88330]

Hill looks like he needs to use his body better when driving the lane. Looks like he is shying away from the contact a bit. What do you all think?

[Spurtacus]

Hill is close to a double double.

[ducks]

9-12 hill from the stripe
other then duncan and manu
no one gets to the line
hiill with 12 free throws wow

[Obstructed_View]

That was an ugly shot by Hill.

Yeah, I'd rather he try for his shot when it's there instead of forcing it when it clearly isn't.

[timvp]

You've got to be freaking kidding me. There's people all over the place slavering over how awesome Mahinmi and Hill will be.Depends what "awesome" means. Awesome to me would mean Hill puts up Speedy numbers and Mahinmi is 90% as good as Nazr. I haven't seen too many realistic posters claiming All-Star game for these guys.

[ducks]

Hill and Manhinmi better show that they can take over this game or it'll be a complete disappointment!

this is their first game together

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

George Hill trey :).

[Kori Ellis]

Hill looks like he needs to use his body better when driving the lane. Looks like he is shying away from the contact a bit. What do you all think?

He's gone to the line 12 times - so he's getting some contact :lol

[2centsworth]

Hill is the freakin man, I love what I'm seeing.

[mystargtr34]

There you go George

[Obstructed_View]

Hill looks like he needs to use his body better when driving the lane. Looks like he is shying away from the contact a bit. What do you all think?

I don't see that. He's aggressively drawing contact. Nice shot, George.

[coopdogg3]

Finally a 3 from Hill

[Solid D]

That 3rd quarter was much better for Hill. He is showing some confidence and playing more aggressively on O and on D. He got up into his man more but I'd still like to see even more physicality. I like him...he just needs a bit more muscle and that will come.

[Spurtacus]

Nice stroke again by Hill. He can shoot the 3.

[mexicanjunior]

You've got to be freaking kidding me. There are people all over the place slavering over how awesome Mahinmi and Hill will be.

I don't recall alot of posts saying either would be NBA studs but I do recall plenty of people saying they would be eating alot of minutes in the rotation. I think they have a long ways to go before they are at that level. I guess they have 3.5 months to show something...

[timvp]

When Hill has his feet set, his shot is smooth.

[2centsworth]

Finally a 3 from Hill

what do you mean finally, 4th is winning time.

[ceperez]

Nice... Ian triple teamed and nice assist for a 3 by Hill... now we're talking!

[Borosai]

I smell an epic comeback!

[024]

wow, george hill leading the team in rebounds.

[Obstructed_View]

Nice draw by Powell. He may screw around and get himself some notice.

[coopdogg3]

what do you mean finally, 4th is winning time.

I think it's his 1st 3 - hence the "finally".

[SPURSGOAT]

yea hill looking a lot better now... I still like this pick of hill a lot.

Hill, Gist, and Ian have all looked good for their first sl game... Hill l

[objective]

i don't quite get the first game jitters excuse.

Memphis is on it's 4th game in 4 nights. Only 8 of their guys have played all 4 games.

fatigue vs. jitters . . . shouldn't fatigue be making the Grizzlies players look worse against a fresh Spurs team?

[2centsworth]

everything I read about hill is showing. Dude knows how to win.

[Spurtacus]

Tie game! GO SPURS GO! :)

[xellos88330]

Hehe, about Hill drawing the contact... I wasn't very clear what I meant. I meant like creating enough contact to get enough separation from the shot blocker to get a clean shot off after the contact. :P

[cecil collins]

To make any grand conclusions from the first summer league game is ridiculous. Some of you fuckers need to give the front office some breathing room.

[peskypesky]

i don't know what kind of screen y'all are watching the game on...cause Ian doesn't look super -skinny to me. He looks fine for his age and height.

[jcrod]

I like Hill, i think he has more jitters than anything. Ian looking better as the game goes on and Gist looks like he'll be a defensive beast in a couple of yrs. All in all its summer league and we'll find out more during preason.

[Mr. Body]

Depends what "awesome" means. Awesome to me would mean Hill puts up Speedy numbers and Mahinmi is 90% as good as Nazr. I haven't seen too many realistic posters claiming All-Star game for these guys.

Plenty are calling Mahinmi a starter later in the year, calling him the savior. Freaking MB writes posts about how he's as good as any lottery pick. Hill is carrying expectations of being at least as good as CDR or Chalmers, not to mention Arthur and Donte Greene, who we could have had instead. People - almost everybody - has convinced themselves the Spurs have this monstrous steal of a draft pick in him, CIA Pop and all that nonsense. There are stratospheric high expectations for these two guys.

[Rob123]

where can i watch this! NBA TV says i cant watch it for contractual reasons.

[Obstructed_View]

I smell an epic comeback!

From a tie?

[Slinkyman]

will hairston score this game???

[ducks]

hill is liek barry feet set
he makes it

[coopdogg3]

i don't quite get the first game jitters excuse.

Memphis is on it's 4th game in 4 nights. Only 8 of their guys have played all 4 games.

fatigue vs. jitters . . . shouldn't fatigue be making the Grizzlies players look worse against a fresh Spurs team?

Spurs have had a lot of TOs because they don't know where their teammates are gonna be. That should be remedied.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I think he's actually 6'8, but he's very "Spur-like" in personality (Roger Powell is too.) Both very good guys. Tolliver's rep is that he's a little soft and backs away from contact. The Cavs really liked him in training camp last year and he was one of their last cuts.

Kinda weird. If he's stroking the three like that, he won't be anywhere near the inside to battle for contact anyway.

And I think it'd be easy for them to say 'keep shooting like you're shooting, but get your nose in there and knock someone's head off for the rebound or we'll cut you.'

I just like what I see out of him, especially as a Bonner replacement. He's looked the best tonight after Gist, Hill, and Ian.

[BiZNicK]

Ian = Nazr

butterfingerrs

[Obstructed_View]

where can i watch this! NBA TV says i cant watch it for contractual reasons.
Try this one.
http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia-live...ive_060213.asx

[Mr. Body]

One thing I do like about Mahinmi and Hill tonight is that their TO and Foul numbers aren't too high.

[2centsworth]

that was real smooth by Gist.

[timvp]

Gist seems like he's the vocal leader of the team.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Obviously. No realistic person would think any of the summer league Big Four would be NBA studs.

Unless you're the poster who thought we should have signed Javtokas for the full MLE last summer.

[Spurtacus]

Ian lol

[Borosai]

From a tie?

That's why it's epic! :bike:

[mystargtr34]

I like hill
atleast he rebounds well
someone needs to rebound when duncan and tp sit

Since when did TP rebound :lol

[Buddy Holly]

LOL at people reading way too much into the Spurs first summer league game.

[SPURSGOAT]

gist with a 3

[ducks]

hill and ian need to play more together
then they will put better numbers up

and ian is really not a center but forward

[coopdogg3]

Good shot by Gist.

[Obstructed_View]

James GIST!

[2centsworth]

Gist has NBA talent.

[Spurtacus]

Gist showed off his outside shot. Not bad.

[mystargtr34]

Nice Ian

[ducks]

ian has 9 free throw attempts tonight also

[Obstructed_View]

Nice.

[ceperez]

man... that's a good move my ian!

[cecil collins]

Nice turnaround jumper by Ian.

[Obstructed_View]

Was that Lorenzo Charles?

[mystargtr34]

Can someone defend Arthur... isnt Gist supposedly doing that...

[ducks]

Since when did TP rebound :lol

tp has 2 or 3 games a year he has 5 or more rebounds
that is it:depressed

[Slinkyman]

hairston 0-6 :(

[xellos88330]

Go Spurs Go!!!

[Marcus Bryant]

Plenty are calling Mahinmi a starter later in the year, calling him the savior. Freaking MB writes posts about how he's as good as any lottery pick. Hill is carrying expectations of being at least as good as CDR or Chalmers, not to mention Arthur and Donte Greene, who we could have had instead. People - almost everybody - has convinced themselves the Spurs have this monstrous steal of a draft pick in him, CIA Pop and all that nonsense. There are stratospheric high expectations for these two guys.

Yes, Mahinmi is as good as a lottery pick. And you are one whiny bitch.

[ChumpDumper]

I think Gist made the team.

I like Ian's range today.

Hill isn't completely lost, so that's a plus.

[Obstructed_View]

Arthur looks like the most talented guy on the floor.

[Buddy Holly]

Hill with 7 rebounds so far. That will come in handing for the Spurs.

[usckk]

Wow, she's terrible. Shoots like Vaughn.

[Mr. Body]

Yes, Mahinmi is as good as a lottery pick. And you are one whiny bitch.

:lol

[cecil collins]

Yes, Mahinmi is as good as a lottery pick. And you are one whiny bitch.

Word

[mystargtr34]

Can we please waive Bonner and sign Tolliver

[objective]

there's a big difference in how Mahinmi is setting picks and how Gist is doing it.

[A.H 21-50]

Can someone defend Arthur... isnt Gist supposedly doing that...

athur scores only four points during the second half

[Buddy Holly]

Arthur looks like the most talented guy on the floor.

Dude went 1-7 for 3 whopping points yesterday.

Which is it?

[Spurtacus]

Sign Tolliver. Not sure about his D but he can shoot.

[A.H 21-50]

Can we please waive Bonner and sign Tolliver

agree
sign this tolliver

[coopdogg3]

I think Gist made the team.

I like Ian's range today.

Hill isn't completely lost, so that's a plus.

What are you thinking about Tolliver?

[Obstructed_View]

I love SL for the hustle. It's like a kids' soccer game, with 10 guys all crowded around the ball.

[Marcus Bryant]

:lol

If OJ Mayo is a lottery pick....

[xellos88330]

I think he will do good things for the Spurs as far as Ian goes. Spurs really need an athletic big.

[Obstructed_View]

Dude went 1-7 for 3 whopping points yesterday.

Which is it?

What does that have to do with his talent?

[2centsworth]

Memphis is determined to get the ball out of Hill's hands. Dude still finding a way to be productive. I like guys who can be productive even when their shot is off. Like Manu, who can be 0-10 and still impact a game.

[ChumpDumper]

Dude went 1-7 for 3 whopping points yesterday.

Which is it?As bad as he looked earlier, he looks great today. Just needs time.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Gist is one of those guys like Jason Maxiell for Detroit or Brandon Bass at Dallas.

He's going to be a great energy guy off the bench with some defensive intensity to boot.

Spurs better sign this kid and have him on the opening day roster. I have a sneaky suspicion he will end up the best of the Spurs 2008 draft class.

[Obstructed_View]

That wasn't a travel. I hate when they call that. A black official should know better.

[Spurtacus]

Who was handling the ball on the fastbreak? Completely missed Gist (I think) running up the floor on the right.

[ducks]

What does that have to do with his talent?

if you have talent you make shots

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Ovinton gets the foul on Hill.

[timvp]

Hill looks like he's tiring out defensively.

[Obstructed_View]

I think careflight is going over my house. Anyone else hear a helicopter?

[cecil collins]

What's up with the audio?

[Slinkyman]

how tall is mayo, he looks like the smallest guy out there.

[2centsworth]

Gist is one of those guys like Jason Maxiell for Detroit or Brandon Bass at Dallas.

He's going to be a great energy guy off the bench with some defensive intensity to boot.

Spurs better sign this kid and have him on the opening day roster. I have a sneaky suspicion he will end up the best of the Spurs 2008 draft class.

kid looks good, but his shot is on too. Let's see him when his shot is off.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Gist is one of those guys like Jason Maxiell for Detroit or Brandon Bass at Dallas.

He's going to be a great energy guy off the bench with some defensive intensity to boot.

Spurs better sign this kid and have him on the opening day roster. I have a sneaky suspicion he will end up the best of the Spurs 2008 draft class.

Damn, if he's like that for NEXT year... damn that would really be something..

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Anyone else getting morse code over the NBA audio feed?

[ChumpDumper]

What are you thinking about Tolliver?Looks like he was instructed to shoot the three. I like him, but that would be a lot of undersized PFs on one team.

[2centsworth]

Hill looked brutally slow off that pick. Dude needs to be more aggressive.

[coopdogg3]

Wow, that beeping is annoying.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Someone's 80s arcade machine is going haywire into the audio.

[coopdogg3]

So Ian is our FT specialist?

[Marcus Bryant]

Hill looks pretty damn good. It's not hard to see what the Spurs saw in him. He set up 2 or 3 guys early for 3s with great looks that they didn't knock down. Has shown the ability to get to the basket. Gist looks like he could have a NBA career if he can bring this effort consistently. Hairston needs some work, or perhaps just needs a couple more games. Mahinmi had a variety of nice moves tonight offensively. Tolliver put some points on the board.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

kid looks good, but his shot is on too. Let's see him when his shot is off.

I watched him a couple of times in college. Even when he's not scoring, he's still playing D like a mofo. You'll get that hustle on the glass, in rotation, and on the weak side with the shot blocking every night.

When he's hitting, the points are a bonus.

[xellos88330]

Ok who is playing space invaders????

[2centsworth]

now george is being a puss on O.

[Obstructed_View]

Wow.

[coopdogg3]

Good shot Green

[coopdogg3]

And the SPurs take the lead

[Obstructed_View]

I like this better without the crowd mikes. Wow, bad rotation.

[ChumpDumper]

Hill kind of floats off picks when he should be cutting harder to the basket. He's got decent speed to pull it off.

[coopdogg3]

And the Spurs lose the lead

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Glad they finally killed the audio feed from Tron.

[Spurtacus]

Hey, finally retook the lead.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Devin Green heating up.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Anyone else getting morse code over the NBA audio feed?


Wow, that beeping is annoying.


Someone's 80s arcade machine is going haywire into the audio.


Ok who is playing space invaders????

:lol

[2centsworth]

Hill looks pretty damn good. It's not hard to see what the Spurs saw in him. He set up 2 or 3 guys early for 3s with great looks that they didn't knock down. Has shown the ability to get to the basket. Gist looks like he could have a NBA career if he can bring this effort consistently. Hairston needs some work, or perhaps just needs a couple more games. Mahinmi had a variety of nice moves tonight offensively. Tolliver put some points on the board.

I like Hill, but I don't like the long threes off zero penetration. If they were kickouts, and then I would have been more impressed. Kid has skill though.

[DMX7]

A ton of fouling going on. I think I heard the PA guy say at least 2 or 3 players with 6 fouls already.

[SPURSGOAT]

damn green is good

[ChumpDumper]

Devin Green heating up.He was nonexistent in Orlando SL, but I think the team he was on had no plans for him. He's a pretty versatile player.

[xellos88330]

Nice aggression Green!!!

[2centsworth]

better mini penetration by hill to kickout three.

[Obstructed_View]

Green knows winning time when he sees it.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Ow. Unnecessary foul in summer league.

[ceperez]

Devin Greene nice and consistent. At 6'7" he should be servicable. Cut Hairston!

[Obstructed_View]

Holy shit.

[GooberNuts]

Oh damn

[coopdogg3]

Owww, that ain't good

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Oh crap, was that Cuffee?

[oligarchy]

..at least it was cuffee

[ChumpDumper]

Ow.That looked too much like Ian's spill last season.

[timvp]

Damn that was a cheap foul by Arthur.

[coopdogg3]

that was not a cool foul for summer league

[Spurtacus]

Shit that was a hard fall.

[ceperez]

Ouch! Bad fall!

[xellos88330]

Undercut enough Memphis??? Cheap shot.

[A.H 21-50]

Damn that was a cheap foul by Arthur.

i think it was badiane

[Kindergarten Cop]

I'm going to admit to something that will likely make me look like an idiot - I had no idea that Mahinmi's first name was pronounced like "yon". I thought that it was pronounced "ee-un".:loser

[coopdogg3]

Cuff hit 'em both though.

[ChumpDumper]

Devin Greene nice and consistent. At 6'7" he should be servicable. Cut Hairston!That might be the case. Green played four positions for the D-fenders the past couple of seasons.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

LJ, that was Badiane or whatever. Eurotrash.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Mahinmi put-back.

[coopdogg3]

Hill, had a weak drive, but saved by Ian.

[cecil collins]

Nice putback

[2centsworth]

very nice penetration.

[Obstructed_View]

Nice pass. George's, not the turnover.

[Marcus Bryant]

Ian gets to loose balls quick.

[Slinkyman]

wow. stupid.

[THE SAMOAN TD]

IM LOVIN IT LIKE McDONALDS MAN GIVE ALL OF THEM CONTRACT

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Chump, is Devin a serviceable project at the 3? Does he have a good wing span or is it not enough to overcome only being 6'7"?

[GSH]

one game means nothing
and mem has played 3 games against other people before tonight
spurs played no one


I can't argue the fact that one game doesn't prove anything. Anybody can have an off night. But if it has anything to do with the fact that it is the first game, it would tend to underscore a difference between the players. Both Chalmers and CDR came out in their first games looking like they knew what they were about.

Hey, the guy is a Spur now, so I'm pulling for him to step up and be great. And no matter what happens, I wouldn't consider picking him a mistake, if not for some of the other players who were available. I think they would have given the Spurs more help this year, when they appear to need it.

[SPURSGOAT]

Damn sign Green!!!

[ceperez]

Greene definitely has good ball handling skills.

[Spurtacus]

Hopefully Hill can be coached on how to finish at the rim. He's been rejected 3 times. I like his aggresiveness though. Mahinmi has cleaned up pretty well.

[2centsworth]

Hill, had a weak drive, but saved by Ian.

get the hell out of here. That drive was exactly what he should have done, take 3 guys with you so the big man can follow-up.

[ceperez]

shit... two bricks from the FT line by Greene. Two bad fouls too!

[Obstructed_View]

I can't argue the fact that one game doesn't prove anything. Anybody can have an off night. But if it has anything to do with the fact that it is the first game, it would tend to underscore a difference between the players. Both Chalmers and CDR came out in their first games looking like they knew what they were about.

No it underscores the fact that one game doesn't prove anything.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Both Chalmers and CDR came out in their first games looking like they knew what they were about.


They also both had a point to make after falling from projected late lotto/mid-first round to the second round.

It was much more than a summer league game for them in their first games, both were on a mission to prove that them falling to the second round was a mistake.

[ECZ]

wow, tolliver is really playing well tonight

[ChumpDumper]

Chump, is Devin a serviceable project at the 3? Does he have a good wing span or is it not enough to overcome only being 6'7"?
He's not a long three. Just another guard with good handles and passing ability that the Spurs have used quite well.

[024]

i forgot oj mayo was in the game. 4-15 shooting... sucks for the grizzlies.

[Obstructed_View]

get the hell out of here. That drive was exactly what he should have done, take 3 guys with you so the big man can follow-up.

And Hill almost stole the rebound away from Ian.

[coopdogg3]

get the hell out of here. That drive was exactly what he should have done, take 3 guys with you so the big man can follow-up.

It was a weak shot, it was not a good pass.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

No it underscores the fact that one game doesn't prove anything.

Apparently GSH thinks unless the kid goes for 30 and 10 his first game, he's a bust.

[ducks]

Hill handling traps a lot better.

cool

[2centsworth]

wow, tolliver is really playing well tonight

he has the potential to make decent money overseas.

[timvp]

Eight seconds.

[Obstructed_View]

They also both had a point to make after falling from projected late lotto/mid-first round to the second round.

It was much more than a summer league game for them in their first games, both were on a mission to prove that them falling to the second round was a mistake.

And I don't really like players that have to motivate themselves with artificial disrespect in order to do well.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

It was a weak shot, it was not a good pass.

It was a perfect play. He drew three defenders and got it up on the glass - he knew he had Ian there to clean it up. If you'd ever played PG in your life you'd recognize it as a solid play.

[coopdogg3]

Alright, George hit both his FTs

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This is a long ass 8 seconds.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

And I don't really like players that have to motivate themselves with artificial disrespect in order to do well.

Yeah, but some people mistake that for an obvious mistake made by the Spurs :rolleyes

[ceperez]

Air Ball by George Hill.

[peskypesky]

Lebron's Summer League debut:
14 pts, 7 rebounds, 6 assists

George Hill's Summer League debut:
14 pts, 8 rebounds, 1 assist

not too shabby...not too shabby :)

[ECZ]

he has the potential to make decent money overseas.

hopefully spurs front office does something to encourage him to stay and possibly earn some PT

:flag:

[SPURSGOAT]

Spurs Win!~!!!!!!!!

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Yay we won.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Damn, wish we had room for Tolliver. He looks to be an actual Robert Horry replacement, unlike Matt Bonner.

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Damn, wish we had room for Tolliver. He looks to be an actual Robert Horry replacement, unlike Matt Bonner.

Again, how do you know anything about Bonner when he doesn't get any PT?

[2centsworth]

It was a weak shot, it was not a good pass.

you're lost kid. you're suggesting he should have thrown a brick instead. Soft so you or a big man can follow-up, simple as that.

[coopdogg3]

It was a perfect play. He drew three defenders and got it up on the glass - he knew he had Ian there to clean it up. If you'd ever played PG in your life you'd recognize it as a solid play.

/shrug, believe what you want, I suppose. I know I will. I was impressed with Hill, but I don't believe for a second he was trying to pass the ball to Ian.

[Spurtacus]

Box score

http://www.nba.com/summerleague2008/games/boxscore.jsp?gameId=1520800018

[Borosai]

The Spurs overcame Summer League corruption to win the game. Epic!

[2centsworth]

Lebron's Summer League debut:
14 pts, 7 rebounds, 6 assists

George Hill's Summer League debut:
14 pts, 8 rebounds, 1 assist

not too shabby...not too shabby :)

Hill had 17 pts.

[cecil collins]

Trade Bonner for a guy who doesn't intend to play in the NBA next year, or ever.

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I love a guy who can score 17 points on a 2-9 shooting night.

[peskypesky]

Lebron's Summer League debut:
14 pts, 7 rebounds, 6 assists

George Hill's Summer League debut:
14 pts, 8 rebounds, 1 assist

not too shabby...not too shabby :)

make that 17 pts for Hill...even less shabby. :)

[SequSpur]

Again, how do you know anything about Bonner when he doesn't get any PT?

common sense? shit, Bonner isn't a new discovery you know...

[ceperez]

Pretty decent by George Hill though I didn't see him make his own shot. Mahinmi showed some good moves and decent range. Greene looked pretty comfortable on the court. Gist has a couple of blocks and showed his 3 pt range (may be a nice understudy for Bowen). Tolliver looked decent.

Hairston was a complete no show.

Mayo looked pretty impressive in how he could get his shot up with defense. Arthur seemed pretty agile and had some decent range.

[xellos88330]

Well the new guys looked pretty good. You can tell that they are still feeling each other out a bit though. Lots of miscommunication on defense and offense. Other than that, in my opinion (i know the summer league isnt over yet), I wouldnt mind seeing a few of those guys on the roster next year for the Spurs.

[2centsworth]

Damn, wish we had room for Tolliver. He looks to be an actual Robert Horry replacement, unlike Matt Bonner.

not at all. He looks like a lumbering set shot type of player. Green looked much smoother.

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Hill had 17 pts.

And 3 assists.

[cecil collins]

/shrug, believe what you want, I suppose. I know I will. I was impressed with Hill, but I don't believe for a second he was trying to pass the ball to Ian.

Doesn't have to be a pass to be a good play. When you draw the big men to contest your shot, it opens up offensive rebounding opportunities.

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common sense? shit, Bonner isn't a new discovery you know...

WTF do you know about common sense?

[Spurtacus]

Hill went 2-9 from the floor. Only one assist, but he penetrated well and got others some open looks.

This was the most I've seen of Mahinmi and I thought he played very well. I think he's ready to make our rotation. Not quite starter material just yet.

Didn't see enough of Gist imo. Only 18 minutes. I liked his athleticism and defense.

Hairston was a bust!

[SPURSGOAT]

from tonight, Hill, Gist, Ian, Green, and Tolliver all looked good...

Cut Hairston and bring in Green in his place.

[2centsworth]

I love a guy who can score 17 points on a 2-9 shooting night.

called winners/scorers.

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Pretty decent by George Hill though I didn't see him make his own shot. Mahinmi showed some good moves and decent range. Greene looked pretty comfortable on the court. Gist has a couple of blocks and showed his 3 pt range (may be a nice understudy for Bowen). Tolliver looked decent.

Hairston was a complete no show.

Mayo looked pretty impressive in how he could get his shot up with defense. Arthur seemed pretty agile and had some decent range.

Maybe college 3 point range. That long jumper was a 2.

[DMX7]

What an ugly game. A ton of fouls. I think this may be the last summer league game I watch but at least there were some positives... I think.

[mystargtr34]

And 3 assists.

I thought it was 1 assist?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Again, how do you know anything about Bonner when he doesn't get any PT?

And he never will either, which is why he's worthless to the Spurs, except in trade.

Send him back to Toronto.

[ducks]

4 players in double figures

[coopdogg3]

I thought Hill struggled from the FT line, but he finished 12-16 according to NBA.com. So that's good.

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I thought it was 1 assist?

Ah, shit. You're right. I must have had my head tilted to the side. :lol

[peskypesky]

from tonight, Hill, Gist, Ian, Green, and Tolliver all looked good...

Cut Hairston and bring in Green in his place.

it's one game, dude. chillax.

[Pucho!!!]

I like what Im seein in hill, gist and mahimini. I got to my comp late so I didnt get to see hairston do much, but that guy devin green did alito sumthing, whats up with that guy?

[kjhip1]

just the 1st game...interested to see how hill does in next game.. memphis was gunning to get the ball out of his hands...every time he drove the lane, there were two guys on him...

[xellos88330]

I like what Im seein in hill, gist and mahimini. I got to my comp late so I didnt get to see hairston do much, but that guy devin green did alito sumthing, whats up with that guy?

I dunno but me likey!!

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And he never will either, which is why he's worthless to the Spurs, except in trade.

Send him back to Toronto.

Ah, I see what you are saying. I agree. Might as well not keep players we aren't willing to play.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

not at all. He looks like a lumbering set shot type of player. Green looked much smoother.

Well, one would expect a shooting guard to look smoother than a power forward.

[Biggems]

Hairston may have not had his shot falling, but he did have 4 rbs, 2 asts, and 1 blk.

[ducks]

hairston sucked all game
you mmissed nothign from him

[jayc23]

If you expect to see Hill shoot 22% very often your gonna be sadly mistaken and whoever said Hill can't shoot based on one game .. STFU your a bandwagon scrub, and a couch coach

[Biggems]

I thought Hill struggled from the FT line, but he finished 12-16 according to NBA.com. So that's good.

75% puts him near the top of the rooster.........

[Spurtacus]

I thought Hill struggled from the FT line, but he finished 12-16 according to NBA.com. So that's good.

I think he started 3-6. I don't remember him missing one in the second half.

[Borosai]

Second game: Tomorrow 4 p.m. ET vs. the Knicks

Hairston goes for 20!

[SequSpur]

Green and Cuffee took over in crunch time. The only problem with Green is he can't handle the rock.. :lol

But dude is nails!

There is something about Hill that was missing... He definitely can handle the ball, but dude is not flashy and he is terrible at the rim... I guess watching Parker destroy people in the paint has made us all spoiled, hill has a long way to go... a llllllllllllllong way....

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Ah, I see what you are saying. I agree. Might as well not keep players we aren't willing to play.

Now you're getting it...