Spurs still interested on Artest???

[PDXSpursFan]

The Sacramento Kings have tried for a Ron Artest trade to Dallas in exchange for Josh Howard, but the Mavericks are not interested, the Dallas Morning News is reporting.

The Mavs were willing to give up Jerry Stackhouse and Brandon Bass for the former All-Star, but when the Kings wanted Howard in return the discussions ended, writes Brandon George.

The talk involving Artest and Lamar Odom of the Los Angeles Lakers also appears to have broken down while Phoenix and San Antonio are still interested


Source - Dallas News (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/basketball/mavs/stories/071808dnspomavslede.67662c0f.html)

Not sure what can we offer to the Kings in exchange

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

That would have to be quite an interesting trade.

[xtremesteven33]

Finley,Udoka and 2nd round draft pick is what i am guessing.

[PDXSpursFan]

Finley,Udoka and 2nd round draft pick is what i am guessing.
Stackhouse & Bass > Finley & Udoka

[SenorSpur]

I still don't buy this. Spurs have little, in the way of assets, to offer.

[xtremesteven33]

Stackhouse & Bass > Finley & Udoka


yea thats all the spurs got...haha

[peacemaker885]

Goodbye Ian?

[urunobili]

I still don't buy this. Spurs have little, in the way of assets, to offer.

would the Beno trade exemption help in the cause?

[PDXSpursFan]

Maybe the Kings "feel" that they owe the Spurs for Beno, so they will do the deal for Bonner :rolleyes

[50 cent]

would the Beno trade exemption help in the cause?

No.

[VaSpursFan]

:lmao of course the Spurs are interested. i'm interested too and i have just as much to offer the Kings as the Spurs...nothing:downspin::downspin::downspin:

[SPURSGOAT]

Hope they are not considering giving up Ian or Gist for Artest...

I still say we have about a 2% chance of this happening...

[xtremesteven33]

i think the best offer we can give is probably

Udoka,Ian, and 2nd rounder.....i dont know if to believe this article

[Twisted_Dawg]

The Sacramento Kings have tried for a Ron Artest trade to Dallas in exchange for Josh Howard, but the Mavericks are not interested, the Dallas Morning News is reporting.
"The talk involving Artest and Lamar Odom of the Los Angeles Lakers also appears to have broken down while Phoenix and San Antonio are still interested."


I'm interested in dating Salma Hayek.

Will it ever happen? No.

[DPG21920]

Hope they are not considering giving up Ian or Gist for Artest...

I still say we have about a 2% chance of this happening...

I would definitely give up one of these two players for Artest if it meant we did not have to give up one of our big 3. Artest fills our biggest need.


But I agree this is stretch armstrong.

[xtremesteven33]

I would definitely give up one of these two players for Artest if it meant we did not have to give up one of our big 3. Artest fills our biggest need.


But I agree this is stretch armstrong.



our biggest need would actually be a slasher but id take artest

[Twisted_Dawg]

i think the best offer we can give is probably

Udoka,Ian, and 2nd rounder.....i dont know if to believe this article

Artest makes $7 million per year. How are the peanuts we are paying Udoka and Ian going to match? And why the fuck would SAC want Udoka and Ian for Artest?

[SenorSpur]

I would definitely give up one of these two players for Artest if it meant we did not have to give up one of our big 3. Artest fills our biggest need.


But I agree this is stretch armstrong.

Bullshit! Regarding Gist and Ian, we haven't even been able to see the fruits of their hard work and you're wanting to ship them out for this nut? Hell no. Remember Artest's contract is up after this season. So the possibility looms that you'll only have him for one year. I don't touch the Big Three or any of this new young nucleus (Gist, Hill or Ian)

[hater]

we have as much chance to get Artest as we do to get Maggette

[DPG21920]

our biggest need would actually be a slasher but id take artest

Wrong. We have slashers. We need an athletic swing that can defend multiple positions and score effectively. So that when Bruce goes of the floor or we have a scoring drought we can put someone in that can not only score, but not make our defense dip.

Our second biggest need is a better defensive big man who can guard the 4/5, block shots and rebound on both ends.

A slasher, of which we already have 2 of the best in the game would be 3rd at best, imo.

[JPB]

Hope they are not considering giving up Ian or Gist for Artest...

You're not serious, right ?

[DPG21920]

Bullshit! Regarding Gist and Ian, we haven't even been able to see the fruits of their hard work and you're wanting to ship them out for this nut? Hell no. Remember Artest's contract is up after this season. So the possibility looms that you'll only have him for one year. I don't touch the Big Three or any of this new young nucleus (Gist, Hill or Ian)

You do not touch a second rounder that is unproven for a guy like Artest that automatically takes you to the next level with an aging Tim Duncan? If your goal is to maximize championships now, you do this in a heartbeat.

What do you think Gist ceiling is if he is to play the 3 spot in the NBA? At best, you hope he can turn into Ron Artest on both ends of the floor. So why wait, when you can get Artest now. A bird in the hand...

[Budkin]

Ain't happening.

[xtremesteven33]

Wrong. We have slashers. We need an athletic swing that can defend multiple positions and score effectively. So that when Bruce goes of the floor or we have a scoring drought we can put someone in that can not only score, but not make our defense dip.

Our second biggest need is a better defensive big man who can guard the 4/5, block shots and rebound on both ends.

A slasher, of which we already have 2 of the best in the game would be 3rd at best, imo.



Parker is a great slasher but Manu is not going to be 100% next year and his athleticism is on the decline. he cant do the crazy things he used to do anymore on a consistent basis. so we need someone thats young who can drive and finish around the basket very well.

[DPG21920]

Parker is a great slasher but Manu is not going to be 100% next year and his athleticism is on the decline. he cant do the crazy things he used to do anymore on a consistent basis. so we need someone thats young who can drive and finish around the basket very well.

If that is the case, then we should just trade Ginobili and keep the youngsters. Get some value in return put more pieces in place.

I do not buy that, I think we are good on the slashers. Would not hurt to get more, but that is not our biggest need imo. Artest gets to the rim decently, he is a jump shooter primarily, but when he puts his head down, he can go.

[DPG21920]

We are not getting him however, so this is all semantics. Hope I am wrong, but I doubt it.

[nkdlunch]

Manu is not going to be 100% next year

thanks Nostradamus

[DPG21920]

Not to mention that all the rumors say the Kings would require any team in a trade to take on the contract of Kenny Thomas, which the Spurs will not do.

[SenorSpur]

You do not touch a second rounder that is unproven for a guy like Artest that automatically takes you to the next level with an aging Tim Duncan? If your goal is to maximize championships now, you do this in a heartbeat.

What do you think Gist ceiling is if he is to play the 3 spot in the NBA? At best, you hope he can turn into Ron Artest on both ends of the floor. So why wait, when you can get Artest now. A bird in the hand...

Again, Artest is in the final year of his contract. He's certainly not a commodity you can trust. I see your points and agree with you as far as his abilities on the court and what he can bring every night. In fact, I didn't have an issue with the Spurs chasing him at the Feb trade deadline.

My issue is that hs is in the final year of his contract and has proven to be a rather unpredictable commodity. He simply cannot be trusted. Look at the manner in which he's waffled in the media these past few months - alienating teammates, ownership and even his own agent. Given those paranmeters and distratctions, I wouldn't hedge my bets on him. I'd just a soon take my chances on a raw, soon-to-be emerging talent like Gist. Besides, try putting a package together that the Kings would like.

[George Gervin's Afro]

2 reasons why this will never happen:

1. We have zero tradeable assets
2. We would NEVER take on Thomas' contract.

[DPG21920]

This is Stein update on Artest, no mention of the Spurs:

After reading on ESPN.com that Ron Artest was planning to represent himself as "my own agent," Artest's long-standing agent Mark Stevens demonstrated that he still has some sway over the mercurial forward. Stevens this week convinced Artest to "get out the media," in Ron-Ron's words, and at least temporarily avoid interviews after a series of e-mails in which Artest voiced his loudest frustrations to date about passing on the chance to opt out of the final year of his Sacramento Kings contract before July 1 and become an unrestricted free agent.

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Ron Artest

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The Lakers are still the favorites to win the Ron Artest sweepstakes.

It naturally remains to be seen how long Artest's silence will last. I imagine we'll be hearing from him again well before July 25, when Artest is scheduled to join Chicago Bulls forward Joakim Noah and New York Knicks guard Nate Robinson on the ESPN campus in Bristol, Conn., to face the winners of a Wii sweepstakes event. Yet it appears that Kings co-owner Joe Maloof, for the short term, was successful with his rebuke in Tuesday's Sacramento Bee that essentially urged Artest to hush before his ongoing commentary hurt the Kings' attempts to find him a new home.

Fact is, though, that Sacramento likely will continue to attract trade interest in Artest no matter what he says, with Artest down to the final year of his current contract at a very tradeable $7.4 million. Maloof himself acknowledged to ESPN.com on Sunday that "the Lakers do want him" … as do "about six other teams."

Yet the Kings continue to insist that the team that ultimately gets Artest will have to take Kenny Thomas' contract as well. NBA front-office sources say the Mavericks were told several days ago, for example, that an offer of bruising power forward Brandon Bass, veteran swingman Jerry Stackhouse and $2 million to cover Stackhouse's guarantee in the 2009-10 season would not be enough to reunite Artest with new Mavs coach Rick Carlisle. (Dallas has no interest in a Josh Howard-for-Artest swap in any incarnation.)

The Miami Heat also have liked Artest for some time, but the Heat received the same message from Sacramento that the Lakers got. Unless the Kings budge from their current stance, Miami would have to send over Shawn Marion and absorb Thomas' remaining $16.5 million over the next two seasons to get Artest. Although Thomas' contract wouldn't interfere with the Heat's intent to have cap room to spend in the summer of 2010, it's hard to see the appeal of such a deal for Pat Riley and rookie coach Erik Spoelstra.

Cleveland is another team you can expect to hear linked with Artest, with the Cavaliers possessing numerous options -- Wally Szczerbiak for Artest and Thomas, just to name one -- to join the bidding. It simply depends on how willing the Cavs are to add to their luxury-tax bill. But nothing has happened yet to budge the Lakers from the role of favorites in the Artest sweepstakes, although ESPN.com reported Sunday that -- fond as they are of Artest and confident as they are that they can get the best out of him through Phil Jackson's coaching and Artest's respect for Kobe Bryant -- L.A. is reluctant to part with Lamar Odom in an Artest swap.

That stance, if the Lakers don't relent, almost certainly will force Sacramento to look elsewhere for a trade partner.

The good news for Lakerland dwellers hoping Artest eventually will arrive this summer to address the defense and toughness issues exposed by the Boston Celtics in the NBA Finals: Maloof has shot down the oft-cited theory that the Kings, because of their fierce on-court rivalry with the Lakers early in the decade, are reluctant to make a trade with their divisional neighbors.

"Absolutely not [true]," Maloof said. "We're rivals with the Lakers, but we respect them as an organization. If we can make a move that improves our situation, it doesn't matter who the other team is."

[TheMadHatter]

Kings are fucking retarded. I know they want to hold out and try and get the best deal here, but they are clearly not in the driver's seat when it comes to Ron Artest. He's a fucking head-case and if they think any team is going to give up quality pieces, especially young pieces, for Ron they are nuts. If they think teams are going to take their horribly bloated trash in addition to Ron they are even more nuts.

The longer this holds out the worse it will get for them. Ron Ron's trade value will only plummet the more he opens his mouth.

[DPG21920]

which is why they told him to shut it

[ducks]

if spurs had more trade bait they would get him


gist for him?

[ducks]

ludden had an article said sprus were intersted in ron but did not have enough trade biat


spurs are intersted in ron

[1Parker1]

:lol @ the Mavs thinking they could get Artest for Stackhouse and Bass. Though i guess if the Lakers can get Gasol for Kwame Brown anything is possible in the NBA these days....

[ducks]

why is that funny
camby was traded for a second round pick

[DPG21920]

ludden had an article said sprus were intersted in ron but did not have enough trade biat


spurs are intersted in ron

everyone is

[peacemaker885]

:lol @ the Mavs thinking they could get Artest for Stackhouse and Bass. Though i guess if the Lakers can get Gasol for Kwame Brown anything is possible in the NBA these days....


Yes for every other team but not for the Spurs. Stern will move heaven and earth to prevent the Spurs getting into the finals.

[Kindergarten Cop]

why is that funny
camby was traded for a second round pick

+ a HUGE trade exception. We had been talking for weeks now about how cheap Denver's owner is (when discussing signing Smith to an offer sheet) and this only proves it.

[SenorSpur]

The Spurs can't possibly compile as attractive of a trade package as say that of Miami, Dallas or even the Fakers.

[DPG21920]

if spurs had more trade bait they would get him


gist for him?

The reason Camby was able to be traded for a second round pick was because the Clippers were under the cap by an amount = to or greater than the incoming salary of the player.

Both the Kings and Spurs are over the cap so salaries would have to match. So Gist for Artest would not work.

[ducks]

kings hate lakers
if dallas is afraid to offer josh howard spurs could offer potential as much as them

heat
who is great on the heat
oh wade do you think they will trade him or beasly?

[ducks]

The reason Camby was able to be traded for a second round pick was because the Clippers were under the cap by an amount = to or greater than the incoming salary of the player.

Both the Kings and Spurs are over the cap so salaries would have to match. So Gist for Artest would not work.

gist has no nba contract right now
kings could agree to pay him as much as ron:lol:lol

[DPG21920]

gist has no nba contract right now
kings could agree to pay him as much as ron:lol:lol

To quote Marc Jackson: "C'mon Ducks, You're better than that"

[td4mvp21]

Well I'm sure we are still interested. Getting him is a different thing all together.

[ducks]

hell spurs should have traded beno for him

[completely deck]

Nope, not happening. They don't want him

[fotan2]

Finley,Udoka and 2nd round draft pick is what i am guessing.

replacing the 2nd round by 1st round and adding on Bowen , i think this might work out seriously :lol

[wildbill2u]

Source - Dallas News (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/basketball/mavs/stories/071808dnspomavslede.67662c0f.html)

Not sure what can we offer to the Kings in exchange

Roger Mason plus Bonner and Finley? After that the cupboard is bare.

[T Park]

If it happens it happens, but it aint.

Probably time to move along.

[Ocotillo]

Not gonna happen. Not only do you have to come up with salaries to match Artest's salary, Sacramento is insisting you take Kenny Thomas' contract as well so that is something like 16 mill in salaries you have to come up with. Sacramento is turning down deals that are better than a bunch of scrubs we could piecemeal together.

If you want to trade for him, one of the big three would have to be included. Unless Manu has a career ending injury in Bejing, I wouldn't do it.

[bigdog]

has anyone heard of a MULTI-TEAM trade?

I'm not saying we have a chance of pulling that off, but it seems no one on here has thought of the possibility of a multi-team deal.

That could solve the problem of having to match salaries. Just get another team to send a player or two over there+whatever we send(and maybe a draft pick).

Those deals are complicated, but it can be done.

[xtremesteven33]

has anyone heard of a MULTI-TEAM trade?

I'm not saying we have a chance of pulling that off, but it seems no one on here has thought of the possibility of a multi-team deal.

That could solve the problem of having to match salaries. Just get another team to send a player or two over there+whatever we send(and maybe a draft pick).

Those deals are complicated, but it can be done.


that would be great if we could pull that off, but i honestly dont think we have talent that is really enticing to other teams

[bigdog]

that would be great if we could pull that off, but i honestly dont think we have talent that is really enticing to other teams

some teams don't have to be looking for talent.

I'd imagine alot of teams are looking for expiring contracts, so they can clear up some cap space soon.

If that's the case, we can sign and trade someone like Finley or maybe someone else, and possibly send off another player that might satisfy a team. Draft picks don't hurt either.

[Darthkiller]

why would heat want him, marion> artest and he is not crazy.

[Spurtacus]

Bonner + Udoka + 2009 2nd round pick x2 + 2010 1st round pick + cash considerations

Would Sac bite on that?

Artest is crazy though...

[jay014]

Bowen, Bonner + 1st round 2009(lottery protected) for Bill Artest.
What better place for a fresh start.

[DPG21920]

we do not have a first round pick next year

[silk]

Could we please stop with all these wet dreams about artest ?? it seems every other day these thing pop up like it is some kind of genius, deeply hidden idea...

[wisnub]

If only Splitter...do we still need Artest? Probably yes

[DPG21920]

I would sure as hell love our big man prospects better if we had Splitter.

Tiago/Mahinmi/Oberto and possibly Kurt...that is a nice big man rotation that can do a lot of different things.

[exstatic]

Source - Dallas News (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/basketball/mavs/stories/071808dnspomavslede.67662c0f.html)

Not sure what can we offer to the Kings in exchange

Perhaps Hannibal Lecter can sign a quick non-guaranteed deal to match the dollars.

[Taking it to the Hole]

I'm interested in dating Salma Hayek.

Will it ever happen? No.



Well, you never know. Supposedly, she has broken off the engagement with here billionaire fiancee, so if a guy like that isn't good enough to keep her interest, than maybe she just needs more of an average Joe?:lol

[DPG21920]

Well, you never know. Supposedly, she has broken off the engagement with here billionaire fiancee, so if a guy like that isn't good enough to keep her interest, than maybe she just needs more of an average Joe?:lol

She is so fine. I remember a scene in From Dusk til Dawn where she played this stripper and she had this yellow python wrapped around her body. She then proceeded to stick her toes into this guys mouth, pour tequila down her leg until it ran into his mouth.

I love tequila now.

[angelbelow]

interesting rumor.

[Chen]

Is there anyone who really wants this guy to S.A?

Not include me.

[iggypop123]

everyone is lowballing. heat probably offering haslem straight up. lakers with ariza mihm type of package or odom and then dallas with stackhouse and bass. he wont go anywhere unless he starts speaking out more but the maloofs already told him to shut up

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

we have as much chance to get Artest as we do to get Maggette

Spot.

On.

[wijayas]

By the way, will Mr. Artest start on the bench please?