The unpopular opinion thread

[averageusaconsumer]

Please post your unpopular opinions in this thread.

Thanks.

[Mister Sinister]

Halo as a franchise is overhyped, overrated, and generally not that great.
Same goes for Final Fantasy 7.

[dirk4mvp]

Halo as a franchise is overhyped, overrated, and generally not that great.
Same goes for Final Fantasy 7.


win

[MaNuMaNiAc]

The Dark Knight was average at best (Ledger's performance was unbelievable though)

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Halo as a franchise is overhyped, overrated, and generally not that great.
Same goes for Final Fantasy 7.


:tu

[tlongII]

Gay couples should not be allowed to raise children.

[InRareForm]

Alcohol is much worse than marijuana.

[averageusaconsumer]

Gay couples should not be allowed to raise children.

That is not all that unpopular.

[cant w8 4 2012]

Lil weezy is the worst fucking rapper ever.

[brettn]

Lil weezy is the worst fucking rapper ever.

Completely agree. Though I think people who know anything about rap would generally agree with you.

Also, halo is completely overrated. FF7 happens to be fucking awesome however.

I can't think of an unpopular opinion of mine off the top of my head but once one pops in my head I'll holler.

[sabar]

Halo as a franchise is overhyped, overrated, and generally not that great.
Same goes for Final Fantasy 7.

The problem is that this has become the new conformist thing for a few years now.


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The cello is a cool instrument:

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[Mister Sinister]

The problem is that this has become the new conformist thing for a few years now.

I agree, but, I assure you, I've been of this mind since I first played FF7. :lol I was lucky enough to play them in order, at least as far as US releases go.

[mavs>spurs2]

Lil weezy is the worst fucking rapper ever.

+1

Now here comes the shocker..

Jessica Alba isn't all that hot :wow

[duncan228]

Tim Duncan isn't boring. :)

[whottt]

The Spurs run of championships is in all likelyhood over for now and probably the rest of the Duncan era.

[tp2021]

Alcohol is much worse than marijuana.

+1

The Beatles were revolutionary, but their music isn't as phenomenal as everyone makes it out to be. Fairly simple tunes, really.

[whottt]

Gay couples should not be allowed to raise children.


You know how many children are molested or abused by one or more of their parents in hetero relationships? Not to mention cheating. fighting, alchohol..

You don't think a child would be better off with two sane same sex parents who get along and respect each other, instead of two fucked up opposite sex ones?

Furthermore would the child be better off with a single parent who has to work and never has anytime to spend with the child, thus the child is raised by a day care or himself after school? Left to the influence of whatever kids are around in the neighborhood?


Are they better off as a ward of the state, raised by someone being paid to do it rather than someone who wants to do it?



A sane and stable gay couple > a fucked up hetero couple IMO.



Once you can get rid of the fucked up hetero relationships, then you can start discriminating against whatever positive gay ones there are...and I don't know for sure that there are any...but I definitely know there are plenty of hetero couples that have no fucking business whatsoever raising children.

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

the US is in deep shit

[Brutalis]

Halo as a franchise is overhyped, overrated, and generally not that great.
Same goes for Final Fantasy 7.

Maybe the game. Not the storyline behind it. That was/is epic.

[Ronaldo McDonald]

+1

The Beatles were revolutionary, but their music isn't as phenomenal as everyone makes it out to be. Fairly simple tunes, really.

I don't agree that their songs (at least on Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt. Peppers, Abbey Road, the White Album) are simple at all. Even if they are to you, I read your post to say that phenomonal = complex, which is stupid and not true at all.

[Brutalis]

Queers need to understand marriage in a church is a holy sanction. It has shit to do with how our government has turned it into politics. You wanna wed in church even though the church and bible you stand in front of and slap those rings are have condemned you. Real smooth there people, how dumb you look is laughable. That is not questionable or arguable. That is not a point of debate nor can it be refused. Get married in church all you want, and turn blind to the shit being dropped on your face for it.

[mardigan]

The Doors, The Rolling Stones and The Eagles all are severly overated. Especially Morrison, talentless hack.

[Kori Ellis]

The Beatles music is horrible.
Forrest Gump was one of the worst movies ever.
JFK wasn't good looking.

[Dex]

The Beatles music is horrible.
Forrest Gump was one of the worst movies ever.


:wow:wow:wow:wow:wow

[Dex]

This is where I would chime in that America is going to hell in a hand-basket, but I'm pretty sure that's not THAT unpopular of an opinion these days.

[mookie2001]

manu ginobili stinks at basketball

jesus the guy made jeavan snead look like mike huff in the 08 playoffs

[Dex]

Chivalry is dead. Feminism killed it.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

-rap/hip hop is nothing, but glorified karaoke. post 1995-ish. the artist basically hits play and sings over something that is totally programmed. there is no musical integrity whatsoever. rap and music do not belong in the same sentence and should not be utter using the same breath.
-adult swim is some of the stupidest crap ever. GIVE ME BUGS BUNNY, DAMMIT!!!!!!
-most lesbianism, but all that goes on in this site, is as genuine as obamessiah's presidential campaign
-al gore's oscar should be taken away from him. milli vanilli's grammy was taken away once it was found out they were a scam. this should hold true to every award he won for that slide show.

[CosmicCowboy]

If you buy into the Obama "change" rhetoric you need to educate yourself on politics and the economy. He is a classic Chicago "machine" politician that just happens to be black and articulate that wants to take it national.

If you think Washington is fucked up now just wait for the sequel if he gets elected.

[tlongII]

If you buy into the Obama "change" rhetoric you need to educate yourself on politics and the economy. He is a classic Chicago "machine" politician that just happens to be black and articulate that wants to take it national.

If you think Washington is fucked up now just wait for the sequel if he gets elected.

That's not unpopular with me.

[spursfan09]

Tim Duncan isn't boring. :)

:lol that belongs in the ESPN version of this thread. Not this one...

[mrsmaalox]

Mark Cuban is a pretty cool guy :)

[dallaskd]

The Indiana Jones movies were terrible.

[Ronaldo McDonald]

Everybody's opinions are fucking retarded, exluding mine, IMO.

[manufor3]

h. clinton needs to jump off a 200 ft. cliff that has sharp rocks at the bottom

[Ronaldo McDonald]

The Beatles music is horrible.
Forrest Gump was one of the worst movies ever.
JFK wasn't good looking.

:wow

One of the worst mvoies ever?

No way.

[dallaskd]

Kurt Cobain was a douchbag.
Led Zeppelin, Queen, and Pink Floyd were all trash
Kraft American cheese squares are shit
I like Bush*
MMA is the best sport on the planet
Jordan was overrated
Ironman was a crappy movie



*The Current U.S. President

[Brutalis]

Major League Baseball has no backbone and is boring. They have zero integrity anymore and just watching it on TV and it consuming SportCenter is really sad because America is so brain washed.

[Brutalis]

Kurt Cobain was a douchbag. Agree
Led Zeppelin, Queen, and Pink Floyd were all trash Agree cept for PF.
Kraft American cheese squares are shit Agree
I like Bush* Go kill yourself
MMA is the best sport on the planet Fighting is not a sport
Jordan was overrated Agree times 100 million
Ironman was a crappy movie Agree



*The Current U.S. President

[tp2021]

I love Captain Morgan

[tp2021]

Queers need to understand marriage in a church is a holy sanction. It has shit to do with how our government has turned it into politics. You wanna wed in church even though the church and bible you stand in front of and slap those rings are have condemned you. Real smooth there people, how dumb you look is laughable. That is not questionable or arguable. That is not a point of debate nor can it be refused. Get married in church all you want, and turn blind to the shit being dropped on your face for it.

They don't get married by the Church. They get married by the State.

[Brutalis]

They don't get married by the Church. They get married by the State.

It's both. If you're married in church the pastor or whatever he is reads from the bible. Making it pretty contradicting to be gay and be married that way.

[Brutalis]

A a disabled minority receives social security from the state, making 740 bucks a month. He applies for food stamps and will get accepted at between 100-200 dollars/mo. Where as a white man in the same condition and situation will get denied. Reversed racism at its best and all the more reason I careless about our government and politics.

[Brutalis]

A guy goes around getting laid as often as he can and he's not a whore/slut/skank. A girl does it and she is a whore/slut/skank. That's fucked up and wrong.

[johnsmith]

I'm voting Republican...........again.

[ShoogarBear]

If George W. Bush was black he would have done 10 years hard time before he was 40.

[Dex]

Onions are fucking disgusting.

[midgetonadonkey]

We never landed on the moon.

[manufor3]

1/2 of the posters here don't know what they're talking about

[debo]

lesbian porn is boring

[Kriz-Maxima]

Jordan was overrated



Agreed, was and still is.

And I'm tired of the constant media/fan cock sucking.

[InRareForm]

Black Olives > Pepperoni

[Sense]

I agree with Brutalis..

I don't agree with gay people wanting to get married.

if they want something similar... make up another word for it and form another church for it.

Marriage is Men and Woman.... make up some other ceremony.

[I. Hustle]

I think it's retarded to have gay pride parades. To have a parade celebrating someones sexual preference makes no sense. I guaranty that if a Hetero pride parade was held it would be considered a hate thing or discriminatory.
That said I am not condemning anyone for what they do in the bedroom (or parks) I just don't understand why we have to celebrate gay pride month when all that is is a sexual preference. I bet I could get a bunch of guys together that like hot busty latinas and if I got a name for the group and celebrated it once a year we would catch alot of heat.

[fotan2]

i am a guy.

i wish i would've been raised by lesbian couple . so sad that never happens to me .

again , i have to enunciate that i am a guy (not gay) hahahaha .

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Animals should have their own currency.

[PixelPusher]

People who go out of their way to let you know how much they hate a movie/tv show/song that's wildly popular aren't more sophisticated, or have better taste than everyone else, they're just anti-social assholes.

[I. Hustle]

White chocolate is the best kind of chocolate

[CuckingFunt]

I think it's retarded to have gay pride parades. To have a parade celebrating someones sexual preference makes no sense. I guaranty that if a Hetero pride parade was held it would be considered a hate thing or discriminatory.
That said I am not condemning anyone for what they do in the bedroom (or parks) I just don't understand why we have to celebrate gay pride month when all that is is a sexual preference. I bet I could get a bunch of guys together that like hot busty latinas and if I got a name for the group and celebrated it once a year we would catch alot of heat.

Life is a hetero pride parade.

[CuckingFunt]

Being contrarian purely for the sake of being contrarian is the very height of douchebaggery.

[I. Hustle]

Being contrarian purely for the sake of being contrarian is the very height of douchebaggery.

That could easily be an argument for my point:toast

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Hyper-consumption culture is the most destructive force on the planet.

The White Stripes are crap.

Modern civilisation will be in tatters in 50 years.

[I. Hustle]

My farts don't smell

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Alcohol is much worse than marijuana.

Absofreakinlutely, and the stats back that up.


The cello is a cool instrument.

You're not alone on that one, the cello gives me good shivers.


Tim Duncan isn't boring. :)

:)


the US is in deep shit

...and thus so is the world...


Queers need to understand marriage in a church is a holy sanction. It has shit to do with how our government has turned it into politics. You wanna wed in church even though the church and bible you stand in front of and slap those rings are have condemned you. Real smooth there people, how dumb you look is laughable. That is not questionable or arguable. That is not a point of debate nor can it be refused. Get married in church all you want, and turn blind to the shit being dropped on your face for it.

You've got to be kidding me. Gay people want to be recognised equally under the law because marriage is essentially a legal institution which gives participants a raft of rights and benefits.

You're an interesting one Brutalis - often you're quite insightful, but at other times a complete dumbass. Anyway...


I think it's retarded to have gay pride parades. To have a parade celebrating someones sexual preference makes no sense. I guaranty that if a Hetero pride parade was held it would be considered a hate thing or discriminatory.
That said I am not condemning anyone for what they do in the bedroom (or parks) I just don't understand why we have to celebrate gay pride month when all that is is a sexual preference. I bet I could get a bunch of guys together that like hot busty latinas and if I got a name for the group and celebrated it once a year we would catch alot of heat.

Heteros haven't been repressed and brutalised by society for the entirety of history, that's what the parades are about... think racial parades, same thing.


Life is a hetero pride parade.

WIN.


Being contrarian purely for the sake of being contrarian is the very height of douchebaggery.

Fuck yes. Argue all you like, but when you're clearly just being contrarian for the sake of it, get over yourself.

[I. Hustle]

Sexual preferance is not the same as race

[ploto]

If you're married in church the pastor or whatever he is reads from the bible. Making it pretty contradicting to be gay and be married that way.

If we limited church weddings only to those people without sin based upon the Bible, there would be no Church weddings at all.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Sexual preferance is not the same as race

Thank you for that scalpel-sharp insight... :rolleyes

My point was that, like racial minorities, homosexuals have historically been victims of bigotry and repression. Pride marches are a response to bigotry and repression.

Are you really so obtuse that you did not understand my point, or are you just being contrarian forthe sake of it? (in which case, kudos) :lol

[dirk4mvp]

Eva Longoria doesn't look that good.

Dicaprio is the best actor of the generation.

Memhis has the best bbq out of anywhere.

[dirk4mvp]

+1

The Beatles were revolutionary, but their music isn't as phenomenal as everyone makes it out to be. Fairly simple tunes, really.



I really tried liking them. I downloaded the sgt. peppers album and it was trash.

[dallaskd]

Onions are fucking disgusting.

+1

[dallaskd]

as is mustard fucking gross

[KidCongo]

The earth is flat people!

[midgetonadonkey]

9-11 was funny.

[midgetonadonkey]

Star Jones is one nice piece of ass.

[spurspf]

there is no god.

[Dex]

Your Mom is a saint.

[mouse]

Treee hugging soccer mons that PM Kori.

[E20]

Batman would beat superman in a one on one fight.

[timvp]

Being contrarian purely for the sake of being contrarian is the very height of douchebaggery.Hey now, the Mookie Crew is actually alright in person.

:smokin

[timvp]

Oh and let's see . . .

Only two types of people aren't racist, at least to some degree -- idiots and liars.

All alcohol tastes horrible. Just some type of alcohol is less horrible than others.

Parents who put their children on Ritalin should be jailed.

"Mental Diseases" are overdiagnosed to the point of ridiculousness.

The United States is by far the best country on earth. I'd put my life on the line for her.

I'm rooting for Argentina to again win gold.

Mexicans are by far the most trustworthy race.

[baseline bum]

chicken fried steak blows
Fisher's shot was rightfully counted

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I really tried liking them. I downloaded the sgt. peppers album and it was trash.

That's not really very outspoken - a lot of people, especially fans of The Beatle's earlier work, don't like Sgt Peppers.

That being said, it's the only Beatles album I really got into.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Oh and let's see . . .

Only two types of people aren't racist, at least to some degree -- idiots and liars.

All alcohol tastes horrible. Just some type of alcohol is less horrible than others.

Parents who put their children on Ritalin should be jailed.

"Mental Diseases" are overdiagnosed to the point of ridiculousness.

The United States is by far the best country on earth. I'd put my life on the line for her.

I'm rooting for Argentina to again win gold.

Mexicans are by far the most trustworthy race.

I'm down with all of those except the alcohol call and the USA call. You've never been to Oz, have you LJ? ;)


chicken fried steak blows
Fisher's shot was rightfully counted

Fisher's shot... wow. That's big of you, baseline! :lol

[MI21]

Fisher's shot was rightfully counted

Base... You are better than that mate!


I, unlike most, have no interest in travelling around Europe.

[Extra Stout]

The ideas of the Enlightment are obsolete.

I like illegal Mexican immigrants better than I do a substantial plurality of American citizens and wish the two nations would trade.

America's being the most powerful country in the world only benefits about 200,000 of its wealthiest people.

The Confederacy's model of government was better, but they forever ruined it by using it to protect slavery.

In America's current moral climate, legalization of polygamy, polyamory, incest, and pedophilia are inevitable.

Christians who oppose evolution understand neither evolution nor Christianity.

[cant w8 4 2012]

Baseball is not a sport,golf is not a sport. they are both pastimes

[debo]

The U.S will be responsible for the end of the world

No one will admit it, but racial profiling can be very effective (even though fucked up)

[stretch]

fuck salt

[Opinionater]

IMHO, I've never had an unpopular opinion. While some may dislike my opinions they are never unpopular. Even if my opinion is disliked it it popular for that very reason. I don't hold back for after all it is MY opinion and I'm very popular for having a very strong opinion on everything.

[Opinionater]

If you buy into the Obama "change" rhetoric you need to educate yourself on politics and the economy. He is a classic Chicago "machine" politician that just happens to be black and articulate that wants to take it national.

If you think Washington is fucked up now just wait for the sequel if he gets elected.

IMHO, we are living through the worse presidential sequel in our history and that is a VERY popular opinion.

[dimsah]

Forum topic trolls are about the lamest thing on the planet and are not in the least bit funny.

[Extra Stout]

If a church is a pine tree, liberal theology is the pine bark beetle, and gay marriage is a fungus that grows on rotting logs long after the tree has died.

[ChumpDumper]

Being contrarian purely for the sake of being contrarian is the very height of douchebaggery.Is not.

[baseline bum]

I'm down with all of those except the alcohol call and the USA call. You've never been to Oz, have you LJ? ;)



Fisher's shot... wow. That's big of you, baseline! :lol

'Eh, it took 0.53 seconds. Yeah, they started the clock late on the shot, but they stopped it late after Tim's shot.... not that I'd ever admit it to a Laker fan. :lol

[E20]

I like Yanni.

[dirk4mvp]

That's not really very outspoken - a lot of people, especially fans of The Beatle's earlier work, don't like Sgt Peppers.

That being said, it's the only Beatles album I really got into.


Yea, but it was Rolling Stones #1 album of all time so I figured that counted for something. Hell they have 8 in the top 100 of the list.

Either they're way overrated or I just don't like them.


But like that chick in pulp fiction said you're either a Beatles person or a Elvis person. I'm an Elvis person.

[Ronaldo McDonald]

We won the 2007 Championship mainly due to the stupidity of Boris and Amare.

[Ronaldo McDonald]

Morbidly obese people should be considered a different species, or race at least.

[Ronaldo McDonald]

Stoners are annoying.

[IronMexican]

Eva Longoria is way overrated.

[Ronaldo McDonald]

Jessica Alba is overrated.

[PixelPusher]

If a church is a pine tree, liberal theology is the pine bark beetle, and gay marriage is a fungus that grows on rotting logs long after the tree has died.

Spoken like a fundamentalist druid of yesteryear.

[Brutalis]

You've got to be kidding me. Gay people want to be recognised equally under the law because marriage is essentially a legal institution which gives participants a raft of rights and benefits.

You're an interesting one Brutalis - often you're quite insightful, but at other times a complete dumbass. Anyway...

Wrong. Marriage is a holy sanction that our government turned into a legal institution. I have no problem with gays or them getting married. Just not in a place that condemns them for it.

I have three gay friends. One guy two girls. All three of them agree, which shows me if just one could agree they see the truth of the matter.

[Brutalis]

If we limited church weddings only to those people without sin based upon the Bible, there would be no Church weddings at all.

That has nothing to do with what I am saying at all, and is beside the point. We are talking about what the bible condemns. It does not condemn impure thoughts, or saying fuck or stuff like that. It condemns murder, laying with the same sex, and more than just the 10 commandments.
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I'm really sick and tired of people (not who I quoted above) that go around thinking about the church as a state. Just because our government politics it up does not mean they are subject to our personal "what's right and what's not right" beliefs. Either you abide by it and go with what the bible says, or you don't. You can't have it and marry a gay at the same time. Just like you can't be on a diet and eat a juicy cheeseburger at the same time. You can however, be as ignorant as you want. The bible is not subject to bending and twisting around over what anyone thinks is right. It has a lot to do with the government for years now have been trying to take the bible and church out of the state/government. They want to rid of it, and do what they want and not face the ridicule over what this country was built on- church, and bible. That's not the only reason but it's one.

[Brutalis]

Salad tastes like shit but I eat it anyways. The gunk I pull out under my lawnmower smells the same. Fresh lettuce or dark green romaine, tastes all the same. No matter how much ranch or bacon bits I cover it with.

Most Canadians will never admit, or say this aloud. And not all of them are like this. But they think they are better than Americans, and dislike our country.

China is communistic yet has a better government than we do.

Abe Lincoln was a stupid little bitch.

[mrsmaalox]

Wrong. Marriage is a holy sanction that our government turned into a legal institution. I have no problem with gays or them getting married. Just not in a place that condemns them for it.

I have three gay friends. One guy two girls. All three of them agree, which shows me if just one could agree they see the truth of the matter.

Okay so if gay people get married in a church they violate the sanctity of marriage? What about people who marry thru the church and then divorce? Is that not also a violation of the sanctity of marriage? Why is there a smaller outcry in the church about divorce vs. gay marriage? One is much more prevalent than the other.

[Brutalis]

The Lakers cheated. And it's not the first time. Gasol trade was just the obvious one.

The Patriots cheated. As much money and news they have made for the league they will never get in trouble for it. But they have been cheating since that bitch coach took command.

[Brutalis]

Okay so if gay people get married in a church they violate the sanctity of marriage? What about people who marry thru the church and then divorce? Is that not also a violation of the sanctity of marriage? Why is there a smaller outcry in the church about divorce vs. gay marriage? One is much more prevalent than the other.

I dunno, do they? Again someone feels like quoting me either putting words in my mouth or rambling about something that has nothing to do with what I say. But since you wanna bring it up, then yes they do. And same goes for straights that divorce. It's all the same just done in different ways if you wanna go on about that subject.

Has shit to do with my point however would you like to try again? Try to read back, I question why gays do it to begin with when they are condemned and do not have "Gods blessing" to start with? Why do it anyways? What's the point? A straight person trying to tell me different is funny to me, although we all have our own opinions. I've already been through the motions on this subject and the subject of gays adopting children as well.

[Kori Ellis]

I'm down with all of those except the alcohol call and the USA call. You've never been to Oz, have you LJ? ;)

He lived in Australia when he was young.

[mrsmaalox]

I dunno, do they? Again someone feels like quoting me either putting words in my mouth or rambling about something that has nothing to do with what I say. But since you wanna bring it up, then yes they do. And same goes for straights that divorce. It's all the same just done in different ways if you wanna go on about that subject.

Has shit to do with my point however would you like to try again? Try to read back, I question why gays do it to begin with when they are condemned and do not have "Gods blessing" to start with? Why do it anyways? What's the point? A straight person trying to tell me different is funny to me, although we all have our own opinions. I've already been through the motions on this subject and the subject of gays adopting children as well.

Hey I wasn't challenging you, I was just asking!!! As far as gays not having God's blessing, I was raised Catholic and I was taught that divorce didn't have "God's blessing" either. I just thought you would offer an opinion as to why gay marriage causes such an uproar, and people are tending to turn a blind eye on divorce, when it is much more common.

[Brutalis]

Hey I wasn't challenging you, I was just asking!!! As far as gays not having God's blessing, I was raised Catholic and I was taught that divorce didn't have "God's blessing" either. I just thought you would offer an opinion as to why gay marriage causes such an uproar, and people are tending to turn a blind eye on divorce, when it is much more common.

Well I agree about the god's blessing thing. Whether you're gay and marry in a church, or straight and divorce, you don't have that blessing.

And people turn an eye because it's so common, well.. look at the world today. Nobody cares about anything other than themselves. So of course they will look the other way. And it's in such an uproar for the fact that I made, millions of people just don't understand why they want to do it in a church when you can just marry somewhere else. Not that we are against them being married, just in a church is all. For me it's like, don't go pissing on the flower bed. It's not right. :lol

[Extra Stout]

Spoken like a fundamentalist druid of yesteryear.
I used to get irritated about the "fundamentalist" label, since I don't actually adhere to the 19 Fundamentals, or the principles of division, or nuda Scriptura, or the stuff that comes along with it like young-earth creationism.

Later I learned that to those wielding that label, "fundamentalism" means "actually believes that nonsense about Jesus being God."

So, guilty as charged.

Liberal* Christianity is an oxymoron.

*Liberal as in theology. Outside the U.S., Christians frequently are socialists.

[Extra Stout]

Okay so if gay people get married in a church they violate the sanctity of marriage? What about people who marry thru the church and then divorce? Is that not also a violation of the sanctity of marriage? Why is there a smaller outcry in the church about divorce vs. gay marriage? One is much more prevalent than the other.
If there are priests or pastors out there who actually are presiding over the breakup of marriages, then they would be applicable to your point.

[Jimcs50]

Gay couples should not be allowed to raise children.


What does your life partner think of that? Are you two looking into an adoption?

[Spurminator]

Daily showers are an unnecessary waste of water and soap.

[Jimcs50]

Daily showers are an unnecessary waste of water and soap.


In the Middle East.

[Spurminator]

In the Middle East.


The dental industry is a sham.

[Jimcs50]

The dental industry is a sham.

and a mockery

[xrayzebra]

and a mockery

And expensive.......:p::lol

[Extra Stout]

Hey I wasn't challenging you, I was just asking!!! As far as gays not having God's blessing, I was raised Catholic and I was taught that divorce didn't have "God's blessing" either. I just thought you would offer an opinion as to why gay marriage causes such an uproar, and people are tending to turn a blind eye on divorce, when it is much more common.

Most of American "Christianity" is actually a moralistic theraputic deist consumerism. The pop theology of the nation is that god is an aloof being who wants you generally to be nice, and whom you can call upon when you need something, but who otherwise stays out of your way and lets you do what you want. According to this pop religion, the most important thing in life is to do what makes you happy. Oh, yeah, and usually being "happy" involves having more stuff, and entire "churches" will be centered around "marketing" and catering to "consumers" who are never asked to do anything but show up, get a nice fuzzy feeling, and maybe give some money to keep the show going.

So, anyway, people will get married because they think it makes them happy, and then when they stop being happy, they get divorced. That's America. The solemn nature of matrimony never enters the picture. The primacy of family is rejected in favor of radical individualism. The idea of marriage being an eikon of Christ and his church is never discussed. The notion of love being a decision rather than a feeling is ignored. The notion of "two becoming one" is reduced to a sentimentality. Sacrifice is a platitude.

I guess if one accepts that abomination which these days passes for "marriage," then sure, go ahead and keep on debasing it with whatever other novelty you can come up with in the name of tolerance. The opposition to gay marriage among most of these "Christians" is just a faint recollection of some teaching lost long ago, now coming back to smack them in the face. Somehow they know it's wrong, but have no idea why. Well, the feeling will soon pass and they'll get back to sitting in those plush theater seats and listening to the preacher tell them how God wants to give them lots of money.

I eagerly await the days soon to come when people who oppose having the church perform polyamorous or incestuous marriages are the troglodytes. After all, who are we to question how people find "love?" Those people who find "love" in groups of people with whom they have sex, or in siblings or parents, or (hey, why not?) in animals or robots probably experience "god" in a more spiritual and mature way anyway than us knuckle-draggers who believe in a specific and special revelation made two millenia ago anyway, right? "God is love" as long as we human beings get to define what "love" is.

[tp2021]

We are talking about what the bible condemns. It does not condemn impure thoughts, or saying fuck or stuff like that. It condemns murder, laying with the same sex, and more than just the 10 commandments.


It condemns that in the Book of Leviticus, which is in the Old Testament. Within the Old Testament, you are given rules on how to treat your slaves, under what circumstances to give your daughter to another man, and are told that women are twice as impure as men. If a woman has given birth, she cannot enter the Church for 33 days, if its a boy. If its a girl, then they must stay out for 66 days. The Old Testament means nothing in regards to how modern society should be run law-wise.

Why would God create a creature in His own image if He wanted it to be condemned? God never sat down at his desk scratching out notes in the first draft of his memoirs, the Bible. Man wrote it. And mankind can be pretty stupid and manipulative.

[phyzik]

The so called sanctity of marriage is a moot point since God doesnt even exist anyway.

All religions are nothing but glorified cults.

[Extra Stout]

It condemns that in the Book of Leviticus, which is in the Old Testament. Within the Old Testament, you are given rules on how to treat your slaves, under what circumstances to give your daughter to another man, and are told that women are twice as impure as men. If a woman has given birth, she cannot enter the Church for 33 days, if its a boy. If its a girl, then they must stay out for 66 days. The Old Testament means nothing in regards to how modern society should be run law-wise.

Why would God create a creature in His own image if He wanted it to be condemned? God never sat down at his desk scratching out notes in the first draft of his memoirs, the Bible. Man wrote it. And mankind can be pretty stupid and manipulative.
That this erroneous line of reasoning is not more readily refuted demonstrates the lack of biblical literacy among "Christians." To wit:

Jesus told the apostles they would inherit his teaching authority.
After his ascension, a controversy arose regarding what parts of the Jewish Law Gentile converts to Christianity were expected to uphold.
This controversy was referred to the apostles who convened in a council in Jerusalem, which is chronicled in Acts 15.
At that council, it was determined that the Gentiles should abstain from sexual immorality, from drinking blood, and from eating meat sacrificed to idols.

So the Levitical laws regarding sexual immorality apply to Christians, but none of the other stuff you mentioned does.

[Anti.Hero]

China is communistic yet has a better government than we do.



What a dumb fucking statement.


Your opinion sucks.

[exstatic]

If a church is a pine tree, liberal theology is the pine bark beetle, and gay marriage is a fungus that grows on rotting logs long after the tree has died.

So, liberal (or, in fact, revolutionary theology) is only good until the Protestant Reformation happens? Then it's bad?

[exstatic]

That this erroneous line of reasoning is not more readily refuted demonstrates the lack of biblical literacy among "Christians." To wit:

Jesus told the apostles they would inherit his teaching authority.
After his ascension, a controversy arose regarding what parts of the Jewish Law Gentile converts to Christianity were expected to uphold.
This controversy was referred to the apostles who convened in a council in Jerusalem, which is chronicled in Acts 15.
At that council, it was determined that the Gentiles should abstain from sexual immorality, from drinking blood, and from eating meat sacrificed to idols.

So the Levitical laws regarding sexual immorality apply to Christians, but none of the other stuff you mentioned does.

Sounds like a bunch of people got together and politicked a solution/compromise. Why would Jesus/God leave such a thread hanging?

[samikeyp]

Kurt Cobain was not a genius. He sold records but so did William Hung.

Conspiracy theories do NOT rule the world. Sometimes shit just happens.

The "millenial" generation contains some of the biggest pussies I have ever seen. You got picked on at school? Tough shit junior, it happens to everyone..dry your fucking eyes and grow a pair and no, that does not mean grab a gun or knife.

Pro athletes under 28, respecting your opponent does not mean you are weak. I know "you gots ta get yours" but you play your ass off and shut your mouth, you will be surprised at how much success you will get.

"We Won" or "we still got 4 rings" or "you aren't better than us?"
You play for the team? No? Then "you" don't have shit.

:toast

[Extra Stout]

So, liberal (or, in fact, revolutionary theology) is only good until the Protestant Reformation happens? Then it's bad?
There are some errors in the thinking of the Protestant Reformers which the liberal apostates have expounded upon, such as the exaltation of reason above faith.

However, the motivations are different. The Protestants rebelled against obvious systemic corruption in the Catholic hierarchy. The liberals decided that science proved historic orthodox Christianity was untrue, and so they developed a new religion which sounded like Christianity but believed totally different things.

[exstatic]

There are some errors in the thinking of the Protestant Reformers which the liberal apostates have expounded upon, such as the exaltation of reason above faith.

However, the motivations are different. The Protestants rebelled against obvious systemic corruption in the Catholic hierarchy. The liberals decided that science proved historic orthodox Christianity was untrue, and so they developed a new religion which sounded like Christianity but believed totally different things.

My point was that, as you see someone as an apostate, someone else, like Rome, is looking at you in the same manner. They're still thinking that they have something relevant to say about the Anglican Church. I think Rome, and the African Anglicans just need to get a room.

[Extra Stout]

Sounds like a bunch of people got together and politicked a solution/compromise. Why would Jesus/God leave such a thread hanging?
The apostles, given teaching authority direct from the Son of God, applied that authority, taking into account what they had been taught.

Liberals decide that everything Christians believed for 1900 years is garbage and make it up as they go along.

[Extra Stout]

My point was that, as you see someone as an apostate, someone else, like Rome, is looking at you in the same manner. They're still thinking that they have something relevant to say about the Anglican Church. I think Rome, and the African Anglicans just need to get a room.
I believe the term Rome uses is "impaired communion," at least since Vatican II. Even they draw a line between those with what they would term bad ecclesiology and questionable theology, but who still worship the Trinitarian God and uphold the authority of Scripture, and liberals who redefine the Trinity as "Mother, Daughter, and Feminine Spirit" or who just deny that God exists in any theistic sense whatsoever.

[O-Factor]

Kurt Cobain was not a genius. He sold records but so did William Hung.

Conspiracy theories do NOT rule the world. Sometimes shit just happens.

The "millenial" generation contains some of the biggest pussies I have ever seen. You got picked on at school? Tough shit junior, it happens to everyone..dry your fucking eyes and grow a pair and no, that does not mean grab a gun or knife.

Pro athletes under 28, respecting your opponent does not mean you are weak. I know "you gots ta get yours" but you play your ass off and shut your mouth, you will be surprised at how much success you will get.

"We Won" or "we still got 4 rings" or "you aren't better than us?"
You play for the team? No? Then "you" don't have shit.

:toast

Well said Mikey:toast

[samikeyp]

Thanks, I have the occasional rant still in me. :)

Working at a hotel and being bored helps too. :lol

[Extra Stout]

The problem with the Anglican Church is that administratively it never really was set up effectively to be a worldwide communion, and so they've never had a mechanism to excommunicate entire national churches. But it's a moot point now, since Canterbury already approved women bishops.* They'll go down the same road the Americans and Canadians have, and the Global South and the remaining remnant of orthodox will just have to choose whether to have their own "Anglican" community apart from Canterbury, to swim the Tiber or perhaps the Golden Horn, or just to go their separate ways.

*Ah, the ordination of women as pastors/priests/bishops. It seems so harmless, so logical. We all know women functionally can serve as pastors, priests, and bishops. Public speaking? Check. Pastoral care? Usually better than the men, actually. Teaching? Check.

But that move always starts the ball rolling toward complete apostasy. Why is that? Equal opportunity in all other areas of society has been pretty positive.

But once upon a time there was something called the iconographic priesthood...

If only Jesus has referred to himself as the Child of God, of his Parent in Heaven... if only he hadn't been such a chauvinist and assisted upon 12 male apostles, not even moving his followers to select a woman when a slot opened up and his own mother was available. I mean, he was so good about fighting social convention in just about every other area, but deep down I guess he was a misogynist or something. I'm sure if that Schori person could get thirty minutes of his time and explain his errors, Jesus would see the light and submit to her wisdom and authority. Because, really, Jesus, much less the Apostles or the Fathers, can't hold a candle to the wisdom of an Episcopal.

It would be much easier just to conclude that Christianity has been obsoleted by modern society and to drop it. But no, the Episcopals keep pretending...

[Extra Stout]

A parable borrowed from a guy named Brant:

Once upon a time, a gaggle of geese flew down and settled on a lake. The eldest and wisest among them faced the rest and began speaking. "Brothers, unlike our fathers before us who believed flying had a purpose, through reason we have come to know better. Flying is pointless."

The other geese murmured and nodded their heads, in tacit agreement with the statement they had heard many times before.

Then one voice from the back spoke up. "But... you fly."

"Why, yes, I do fly," said the elder goose. "I like to pretend that flying has a point. I think doing so has value."

"Wait... how is it that flying is itself pointless, but pretending that flying isn't pointless somehow has value?"

Another goose interjected, "Well, you have to think of the goslings. It would be terrible for them to learn that flying is pointless before they're ready."

"Yes," said the elder goose, "we teach them when they are young that flying has a purpose, but when they are older, they will come to understand that flying is pointless, as we do."

"But... wouldn't it be easier to teach them what we actually believe in the first place and stop pretending?"

The rest of the geese grew annoyed and perturbed, and began arguing with the goose in the back and among themselves, before the clamor was drowned out with shouts of, "Flying is pointless! Flying is pointless! Flying is pointless!"

Then they all flew home.

[exstatic]

The apostles, given teaching authority direct from the Son of God, applied that authority, taking into account what they had been taught.

Liberals decide that everything Christians believed for 1900 years is garbage and make it up as they go along.

Well, if you really want to go apostolic, the succession of their teachings allegedly resides in Rome in the Holy See. Like I said, there's always someone that views you as an apostate.

[dallaskd]

Eva Longoria is way overrated.

+1

[dallaskd]

Jessica Alba is overrated.

:tu

+1000000000

[dallaskd]

We Won" or "we still got 4 rings" or "you aren't better than us?"
You play for the team? No? Then "you" don't have shit.



fuck yes

[ashbeeigh]

Not every thread has to be turned into a religious debate.

[PixelPusher]

A parable borrowed from a guy named Brant:

Once upon a time, a gaggle of geese flew down and settled on a lake. The eldest and wisest among them faced the rest and began speaking. "Brothers, unlike our fathers before us who believed flying had a purpose, through reason we have come to know better. Flying is pointless."

The other geese murmured and nodded their heads, in tacit agreement with the statement they had heard many times before.

Then one voice from the back spoke up. "But... you fly."

"Why, yes, I do fly," said the elder goose. "I like to pretend that flying has a point. I think doing so has value."

"Wait... how is it that flying is itself pointless, but pretending that flying isn't pointless somehow has value?"

Another goose interjected, "Well, you have to think of the goslings. It would be terrible for them to learn that flying is pointless before they're ready."

"Yes," said the elder goose, "we teach them when they are young that flying has a purpose, but when they are older, they will come to understand that flying is pointless, as we do."

"But... wouldn't it be easier to teach them what we actually believe in the first place and stop pretending?"

The rest of the geese grew annoyed and perturbed, and began arguing with the goose in the back and among themselves, before the clamor was drowned out with shouts of, "Flying is pointless! Flying is pointless! Flying is pointless!"

Then they all flew home.
I read in a science book that the point of geese flying was so they could migrate according to the seasons, among other reasons.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Mexico is extremely overrated.

[Brutalis]

It condemns that in the Book of Leviticus, which is in the Old Testament. Within the Old Testament, you are given rules on how to treat your slaves, under what circumstances to give your daughter to another man, and are told that women are twice as impure as men. If a woman has given birth, she cannot enter the Church for 33 days, if its a boy. If its a girl, then they must stay out for 66 days. The Old Testament means nothing in regards to how modern society should be run law-wise.

Why would God create a creature in His own image if He wanted it to be condemned? God never sat down at his desk scratching out notes in the first draft of his memoirs, the Bible. Man wrote it. And mankind can be pretty stupid and manipulative.

Blah blah blah. You confuse the old with the new, and jumble it all up in your own crazy lingo.

[CuckingFunt]

Morbidly obese people should be considered a different species, or race at least.

This comment confounds me on a number of levels.

[dallaskd]

Not every thread has to be turned into a religious debate.

If you have any doubts or questions about Christianity read "The Case for Christ". End of the religious debate.

[Fillmoe]

Mexico is extremely overrated.

+9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 9999999

[dallaskd]

Mexico is extremely overrated.

Mexico is actually a shitty vacation spot. and genuine mexican food is gross.

[Fillmoe]

i love latinas though....

[Ronaldo McDonald]

This comment confounds me on a number of levels.

Yea, the statement is nonsensical and ridiculous. In the morning i got into something with a morbidly obese cashier at a gas station, and was pretty pissed off at the time I wrote that.

No hard feelings towards fat people.

Sorry to have personally offended you.

[lefty]

Spurstalk is overrated

[Ronaldo McDonald]

People who you use big words (ie confound) just for the sake of using big words annoy me.

[Ronaldo McDonald]

Why not just save me from having to go to dictionary.com, please.

[Brutalis]

Extra, you sort of ramble on mindlessly. Making some points but some just hang out there like you're giving a lecture on a street corner. You flirt with crazy.

What would be the difference of him claiming to be the "Child of God" when he stated he was the "Son of God."

Jesus went under the direction of God, and to say he made "errors" is saying God makes errors. Which I highly doubt.

Anyways I'm not one to go on about all that. I could, as I am pretty educated with his teachings and such. But I've have been through too much in my life the past couple years to sit where I once was and claim God is there for me. I don't know that he is anymore, or that his son is even worth praying to anymore. But for some reason when I am in the worst way, I end up doing it anyways with little or no faith even then.

I guess one could say if the biggest Christian or whatever, lives his life believing but then goes through his own stretch of hard times of death and loss then turns to question his own God and existence, he is only human. But for me that's not good enough. I have lived my whole life believing there is something better than this little pathetic materialistic world. Now where I sit I don't think there is. And now all I can say is, I am alive right now and didn't die from that 40 foot drop on my head because of God. But can I? Maybe I was just lucky. Now look who rambles on.

My point is I don't know that there is a point to the bible, or god, or anything. Hell every time I type it I only capitalize it a quarter of the time. I just don't know if I have grown hard inside and fail to see the world as I used to, or I really just an asshole.

It makes me think of one of the best acting scenes of any movie I ever saw. A lot of people didn't like Signs, and that is fine. But there is one part of the movie that was all done in the spur of the moment, it wasn't in the script and they just winged it and they ended up putting it in the movie.

Graham Hess: People break down into two groups when the experience something lucky. Group number one sees it as more than luck, more than coincidence. They see it as a sign, evidence, that there is someone up there, watching out for them. Group number two sees it as just pure luck. Just a happy turn of chance. I'm sure the people in Group number two are looking at those fourteen lights in a very suspicious way. For them, the situation isn't fifty-fifty. Could be bad, could be good. But deep down, they feel that whatever happens, they're on their own. And that fills them with fear. Yeah, there are those people. But there's a whole lot of people in the Group number one. When they see those fourteen lights, they're looking at a miracle. And deep down, they feel that what ever is going to happen, there will be someone there to help them. And that fills them with hope. See what you have to ask yourself is what kind of person are you? Are you the kind that sees signs, sees miracles? Or do you believe that people just get lucky? Or, look at the question this way: Is it possible that there are no coincidences?

I only know a few things to be true for myself. One, we all want to believe. Not specifically in the bible or god, but to believe in something. Doesn't matter who you are, we all want to. Something greater than ourselves, our every day life. Something that makes sense. Two, we all want to love, or be loved. Everyone.

[CuckingFunt]

People who you use big words (ie confound) just for the sake of using big words annoy me.


Why not just save me from having to go to dictionary.com, please.

"Confound" is a big word?

Big enough to inspire a trip to the dictionary??

Since when?

[Ronaldo McDonald]

"Confound" is a big word?

Big enough to inspire a trip to the dictionary??

Since when?

You did it again, with "inspire"!

[baseline bum]

Mexico is actually a shitty vacation spot. and genuine mexican food is gross.

I completely disagree about Mexican food in Mexico. I've yet to find a place in the US that can make al pastor correctly, but you go to Tijuana just south of the border and on seemingly every street corner there's a guy slow cooking it to perfection. By far the best enchiladas I've ever had were at a place in Mexico also.

[mrsmaalox]

I completely disagree about Mexican food in Mexico. I've yet to find a place in the US that can make al pastor correctly, but you go to Tijuana just south of the border and on seemingly every street corner there's a guy slow cooking it to perfection. By far the best enchiladas I've ever had were at a place in Mexico also.

Oh yea! Did you have the kind with the little fried potatoes on top? :drool:

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Christians who oppose evolution understand neither evolution nor Christianity.

:tu


Wrong. Marriage is a holy sanction that our government turned into a legal institution. I have no problem with gays or them getting married. Just not in a place that condemns them for it.

I have three gay friends. One guy two girls. All three of them agree, which shows me if just one could agree they see the truth of the matter.

Yes, you are right, it was a religious institution that turned into a legal one. However, the broader point is that our governments largely refuse to give gay people the legal recognition that marriage entitles heteros to, and that is what most of them are fighting for as I understand it. Concede the same legality as marriage and hold the ceremony in a place other than a church, and I reckon most gay people would take that.


Salad tastes like shit but I eat it anyways. The gunk I pull out under my lawnmower smells the same. Fresh lettuce or dark green romaine, tastes all the same. No matter how much ranch or bacon bits I cover it with.

Most Canadians will never admit, or say this aloud. And not all of them are like this. But they think they are better than Americans, and dislike our country.

China is communistic yet has a better government than we do.

There's a lot more to salad than lettuce! :lol

That China comment is insane. So a government which is actively committing genocide on minorities (Tibet, Falun Gong) and supports widespread abuse of child labour in Africa (which equals lots of dead children), not to mention rampant media censorship that would make Orwell's Big Brother proud, and they are doing a better job than in the US? Pulease...


He lived in Australia when he was young.

Wow, he never told me that. In that case, I retract my comment ;) (although I have no idea how anyone who comes here for more than a month would not want to stay for life... :lol ).


Daily showers are an unnecessary waste of water and soap.

Indeed. Unless you exercise and get sweaty, a shower every two days is fine. In general, westerners are obsessed with cleanliness to the point of absurdity.

[ploto]

We are talking about what the bible condemns. It does not condemn impure thoughts, or saying fuck or stuff like that. It condemns murder, laying with the same sex, and more than just the 10 commandments.

The Bible condemns a lot of things that people do who still get married in a church. Are you suggesting that everyone be screened for all those things so that the marriages will all then be "proper." Only then would your stance be credible.

"You have heard the commandment, 'You shall not commit adultery.' What I say to you is: anyone who looks lustfully at a woman has already committed adultery with her in his thoughts."

The issue I have is why it is that so many people are obsessed with this one sin. Jesus saved His harshest condemnation not for the weak and sinful, but for the self-righteous.

[E20]

LMAO @ Ploto's favorite team.

Sorry, back to the discussion.

[curtismedellin]

The Spurs run of championships is in all likelyhood over for now and probably the rest of the Duncan era.

Sadly, I agree. Which makes it an upopular opinion in the minority.

[cornbread]

Fried Okra is not as good as most people make it out to be.

[whottt]

Just to toss my .02 into the religious commentary...


Atheism in itself is pretty stupid...because basically what you are saying is that if there is no higher power...we are it. We are the highest form of life in existence...

Sorry folks...

I consider that to be one of the stupidest assumptions a human being can possibly make. I mean take a look at everything...there's always something bigger.

At our most primitive state when instinct was what ruled us, we instinctively understood there was somethign greater, in fact, you could say that's when we stopped being primitive man and started being modern man...because as long as we have been modern man, we have believed in something higher...before we were modern man, we believed in something higher...and there is plenty of historical evidence to bear this out.

I instinctively know there is something greater than us...I just do....as did the first modern man.


And it is a scientific fact that energy cannot be destroyed, it only changes forms, and we folks, we are energy.




As for the Judeo Christian philopsophy...

Take a look at the 10 commandments, and try not to look at them as something that if you don't live by them, some old man is going to strike you down...


Take a look at them for what they are, guidelines for building a society....

Intelligently written ones at that.


Take a look at them, and forget about the spiritual aspects, and just look at them as advice, not absolutes...they are damn good advice for those seeking a peacful existence, within themselves and with others.


Pretty much if you don't live by them, and you are a modern human being and not a primitive animalike throwback devoid of empathy or higher thinking...you will find misery and suffering in this life...you won't have to wait until the afterlife.

If you worship some visible higher power, well there is nothing visible that is higther than us that we know of yet...so you will be worshipping something, following something, that takes us back to a more primitive state...

If you worship an idol or image...you are not worshipping something higher, but somethign man made. Or again, something in visible existence which is not higher than us

If you lie no one is going to trust you.


Envy is one of the most miserable feelings a human being can have. It's never a good feeling.


Adultrey is going to cause people pain, and when people are in pain, they usually respond by inflicing more pain.


Etc.


And those are basically the rules of every succesful religion...some of them focus more on nature...but it's basically the same thing in every religion.


There's nothing in there about marriage or having a good time...nothing about the lengths of women's skirts, or sexuality...nothign about smoking pot...

Just rules to live by, at the very least. The problem arises when people start using them for their own gain at the direct expense of others.


Religion like anything else, can be manipulated for bad ends, but the idea behind it is a good one for mankind. It's when morons start interpreting it and using it as a means of coercion that it becomes something bad...

[whottt]

FWIW...I agree with Extra Stout btw...evolution and christianity are not competing theories...and while I admit there are more than a few christians that feel they are...what's truly amazing is number of so called scientific thinkers that feel they are. Same dumbasses...just different sides of the fence.

[tsb2000]

Unless we give up the notion of powering the world (and it's transportation methods) with fossil fuels, this planet is doomed.

English needs to be the official language of the US.

This nation needs to start teaching its children what it means to be an American, or again, this country is doomed.

The concept of the "anchor baby" needs to be abolished.

All that being said, the US needs to develop a hybrid resident program for illegals that lets them live and work here. Way too much money is wasted chasing these people who (for the most part) just want to work. This could be a plan where these people get resident cards, can stay and not be afraid of arrest and deportation, and can get jobs without fear of repercussion. As a way to alleviate costs of car insurance and healthcare, they will pay into the medicare system as well as a mandated car insurance plan.

The wire transfer of money to Mexico should be heavily taxed. If you earn it here, you spend it here.

American companies with foreign workers should have to pay social security taxes on those headcounts, since each one of them represents an American worker who lost a job.

I'll think of more later, I'm sure. :)

[Ignignokt]

whott is intelligent.

Indian Food is good.

Real Mexican indigenous food trumps Tex Mex and is one of the healthiest foods around.

Mozart is the best icon in music. his last mass atest to his greatness.

Bekind Rewind is the worst movie of all time, Mos Def should stick to rapping.

If evolution is correct, than some races are superior to others on intelligence. I don't see any problems in this if it were actually true.

Austin is not the live music capital of the world.

MJ is overrated.

Gnarles Barkley sucks.

Rock Music died long ago.

Rock Clubs are gay.

Dikes are disgusting.

[Ignignokt]

Kori Ellis is easily manipulated. But is never afraid to speak the troof.

LJ should never be a talent scout.

[InRareForm]

People need to stop buying from Dominoes Pizza (it is gross), stop being cheap asses and support local pizza companies.

[baseline bum]

Budweiser is a great beer (Budweiser Budvar, that is)

[CuckingFunt]

Dikes are disgusting.

I can't imagine what could possibly be so offensive about Dutch levee systems.

[johngateswhiteley]

Chivalry is dead. Feminism killed it.

i'd say thats fairly popular.

[johngateswhiteley]

The Beatles music is horrible.
Forrest Gump was one of the worst movies ever.
JFK wasn't good looking.

never liked the beatles.
forest gump was great.
ucla sucks.

[Brutalis]

The Bible condemns a lot of things that people do who still get married in a church. Are you suggesting that everyone be screened for all those things so that the marriages will all then be "proper." Only then would your stance be credible.

Yet again someone puts words in my mouth. Has shit to do with my point, uhgain.



"You have heard the commandment, 'You shall not commit adultery.' What I say to you is: anyone who looks lustfully at a woman has already committed adultery with her in his thoughts."

The issue I have is why it is that so many people are obsessed with this one sin. Jesus saved His harshest condemnation not for the weak and sinful, but for the self-righteous.

Careless what issue you have with that commandment. Moving along...

[Brutalis]

Yes, you are right, it was a religious institution that turned into a legal one. However, the broader point is that our governments largely refuse to give gay people the legal recognition that marriage entitles heteros to, and that is what most of them are fighting for as I understand it. Concede the same legality as marriage and hold the ceremony in a place other than a church, and I reckon most gay people would take that.

I agree. Governments are stupid like that. It's just my own opinion reflects in 3 gays friends of mine, and every gay person I have ever had the discussion with. Not that I make it a point to.




There's a lot more to salad than lettuce! :lol

Prove it.


That China comment is insane. So a government which is actively committing genocide on minorities (Tibet, Falun Gong) and supports widespread abuse of child labour in Africa (which equals lots of dead children), not to mention rampant media censorship that would make Orwell's Big Brother proud, and they are doing a better job than in the US? Pulease...

Eh I'm sorry you wasted your time with the reply, as some others have. But I was just being sarcastic, and dissing the American government. Didn't literally mean that.

[Brutalis]

Jews need to realize their king is never coming. They already killed that king, all because he didn't come on a gold chariot from the heavens. He came in sack cloth and ash.

I bet when the anti-Christ comes, Jews will think their king has finally come and they will be the first ones fooled. "Gods" people, first one out the door.

Middle east needs to leave the Jews alone. It's their land, fuck off and go make more car bombs assholes.

The US Government in my opinion keeps trying to settle the peace between the Paki's and Jews because they in fact, believe the Jews are Gods people and know no one is to go against them for that reason. So the whole taking church and God out of state and government is hilarious, when it seems they fear the Jews being ran over.

In 10 years carbon credits will be worth more than the US dollar. (sarcasm)

Black people that don't shower, smell like ass. Literally, poop. White people that don't shower smell like mildew. Literally, moldy goop.

[Leetonidas]

Kurt Cobain was a douchbag.
Led Zeppelin, Queen, and Pink Floyd were all trash
Kraft American cheese squares are shit
I like Bush*
MMA is the best sport on the planet
Jordan was overrated
Ironman was a crappy movie



*The Current U.S. President

You're a faggot.

[Leetonidas]

Seriously, how the fuck can anyone say Zeppelin, Queen, or Pink Floyd are overrated? Musical fucking geniuses, and they were revolutionary to their time and genre. Not to mention they did things in music that no one else had done at the time.

[ATRAIN]

The Dallas Cowboys will lose in the first round of playoffs again (if they even make it) and Tony Romo is Over-rated.

[j-6]

Driving and talking on a cell phone should be illegal in the US, like in most other first-world countries. And people that text message and drive should get their driving privileges revoked.

[Extra Stout]

Extra, you sort of ramble on mindlessly. Making some points but some just hang out there like you're giving a lecture on a street corner. You flirt with crazy.

What would be the difference of him claiming to be the "Child of God" when he stated he was the "Son of God."
Sarcasm, son, sarcasm. God did not cooperate with the liberal agenda of gender neutrality when Jesus was conceived male, nor in Jesus' insistence upon calling on God the Father.


Jesus went under the direction of God, and to say he made "errors" is saying God makes errors. Which I highly doubt.
It would seem strange to "believe" in God, and then go on to say that human beings can correct his errors. Liberal "solutions" to that problem:
1) Jesus didn't really go under the direction of God all the time; liberal Episcopals are more in touch with God than Jesus was.
2) Jesus wasn't really God, at least not any more than anybody else is. Everybody is divine, so whatever liberal Episcopals decide is the will of God. If it contradicts what other "divine" people used to believe, it's because those earlier people weren't as enlightened.
3) God doesn't really exist except as a human construct, so it really makes no difference if people make it up as they go along.


Anyways I'm not one to go on about all that. I could, as I am pretty educated with his teachings and such. But I've have been through too much in my life the past couple years to sit where I once was and claim God is there for me. I don't know that he is anymore, or that his son is even worth praying to anymore. But for some reason when I am in the worst way, I end up doing it anyways with little or no faith even then.
Go to jesusshaped.wordpress.com and read extensively.

[ATRAIN]

Driving and talking on a cell phone should be illegal in the US, like in most other first-world countries. And people that text message and drive should get their driving privileges revoked.


This goes double for women drivers

[florige]

This goes double for women drivers



Oh yeah. They absolutley pay no attention when they are yapping on those freakin phones. It is already illegal to talk on phones in DC. It's a shame because it would be a major pain if they did ban cell phones while driving. I wish people would know there limitations.

[Extra Stout]

Back on topic:

The best days of the United States of America are behind it.

The modern age has passed and nobody has any idea what to do to replace it.

At some point, San Antonio lost its small-town feel while still remaining provincial and backward.

Texas isn't impressive just because it is big; vast swaths of the state are barren wasteland.

The Panhandle isn't pretty because you can see lots of sky. Everybody can see sky. Nor is it pretty because you can see 30 miles in every direction. There isn't anything to look at 30 miles away either.

[Extra Stout]

You need virtually nothing of what you have.

[Boris]

Everyone should try a little weed now and then instead of popping a pill

[peewee's lovechild]

The best days of the United States of America are behind it.

[Fabbs]

The Dark Knight sucked.
Kill, hate, blow up, repeat. The End. Thanks for your $10.

It probably contributed heavily to Heath Ledgers suicide in real life.

[ATRAIN]

Starving Dogs can be considered ART.

[Dark Gable]

Every woman fantasizes about coming over to the dark side.

[ploto]

Yet again someone puts words in my mouth. Has shit to do with my point, uhgain.

Careless what issue you have with that commandment. Moving along...

You broke up my quote to make it misleading. The Biblical verse pertained to your statement above it that the Bible does not condemn impure thoughts. It related to the sentence above it from which you divided it. That sentence was about how many sinners still get married in churches, including many adulterers.

The last sentence was about your stance on homosexuality. Why is it that so many people obsess on THAT sin and seem to act as if it is the end all and be all of sinfulness- while disregarding all the others. I would say that heterosexual adultery inflicts more suffering on the world than homosexuality- so why the obsesssion with the gay people and not the adulterers?

You asked why would someone homosexual want to get married in a church? Well, maybe that person believes in God and in Jesus and who He was and what He did. I ask-- why do heterosexuals who never go to church get married in churches and why do churches participate in that? Seems to me to make more sense for a person who attends church every week and is homosexual to want to get married in a church rather than someone who is heterosexual and nevers attends church getting married there.

People do not have to worry about homosexuals destroying the sanctity of marriage. The heterosexuals have already done that themselves.

[DarkReign]

Heteros haven't been repressed and brutalised by society for the entirety of history, that's what the parades are about... think racial parades, same thing.

Rome much? Greece?

Not until the mass indoctrination of Christianity/Islam have gays ever experienced persecution in the West (cant speak for the East...no idea). So basically, gays have been persecuted far shorter a span then when they were not (historically speaking).

Spartans (and Greece as a whole) used to practice pedastry, which carried over into early Roman culture as well.

With that said, I dont care about what gays do or dont do. Marriage, child raising, whatever. None of my business.

[midgetonadonkey]

Seriously, how the fuck can anyone say Zeppelin, Queen, or Pink Floyd are overrated? Musical fucking geniuses, and they were revolutionary to their time and genre. Not to mention they did things in music that no one else had done at the time.

Zepplin wasn't revolutionary. They ripped off their entire first album and they stole Stairway to Heaven from Spirit.

[DarkReign]

Most of American "Christianity" is actually a moralistic theraputic deist consumerism. The pop theology of the nation is that god is an aloof being who wants you generally to be nice, and whom you can call upon when you need something, but who otherwise stays out of your way and lets you do what you want.

[sic]

Those people who find "love" in groups of people with whom they have sex, or in siblings or parents, or (hey, why not?) in animals or robots probably experience "god" in a more spiritual and mature way anyway than us knuckle-draggers who believe in a specific and special revelation made two millenia ago anyway, right? "God is love" as long as we human beings get to define what "love" is.

Marriage is a creation of man. Humans (as a species) were never meant to have only one partner for life. Which ties in with another human construct, religion. Religion in essence, is the denial of your nature. To try and be something youre not and were never meant to be. Another man-made mechanism of control and order to alleviate the feeble-minded of the knowledge that the unverse is chaos and so is life.

[peewee's lovechild]

Zepplin wasn't revolutionary. They ripped off their entire first album and they stole Stairway to Heaven from Spirit.

Retarded.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

The sanctity of marriage is overrated.

[DarkReign]

Humanity (in its whole) is not special and the earlier it ends, the better. I use the entire scope of humanity because for the most part individual humans are rational, free-thinking, all-around good people.

But mass those same people together and have them come up with one agenda and it always leads to the death and destruction of another to meet the demands of that same large group.

Just as nature intended.

[DarkReign]

The sanctity of marriage is overrated.

bam

[ComfortablyNumb]

There is a little gay in all of us.

[DarkReign]

There is a little gay in all of us.

If there were ever a post to use to sum up the intent of a thread, this would be it.

I wholeheartedly disagree, kind sir.

[ComfortablyNumb]

If there were ever a post to use to sum up the intent of a thread, this would be it.

I wholeheartedly disagree, kind sir.

There is a little homophobia in all of us.

[Ronaldo McDonald]

sandles (sp?) are stupid.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

If I were a dentist I would not recommend that my patients chew sugar free Trident.

[Ronaldo McDonald]

cats suck.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

I think women need to make a choice: they can have first dibs at a spot on a lifeboat, or they can have the right to vote. No more of this have your cake and eat it too bullshit.

[ATRAIN]

cats suck.

Those damn LOL cats suck more. Also why do I get shit if I post pictures of dead cats. Some people get offended and I get offended by the LOL cats, whats the difference.

[midgetonadonkey]

Retarded.

HjPAEPFaxoM

[Ronaldo McDonald]

I hate pictures. Pictures left behind by the human race will falsely represent us as a happy species to future species that find them, when that is not the case.

[Ronaldo McDonald]

Soccer is horrible.

[Ronaldo McDonald]

pissing in the shower is perfectly fine.

[The Power Hour]

911 was not a terrorist attack.

[ATRAIN]

A BJ should be given (with swallowing) no later than the 2nd date without having to return the favor. Thats the least she could do for us buying her dinner twice.

[Brutalis]

Species go extinct everyday and it's only the popular ones people give a shit about on the endangered list.

[peewee's lovechild]

Global warming is real.

[curtismedellin]

Global Warming has been happening since the end of the Ice Age.
Al Gore propaganda that all tree huggers have embraced.

[DarkReign]

There is a little homophobia in all of us.

Touché

[peewee's lovechild]

Global Warming has been happening since the end of the Ice Age.
Al Gore propaganda that all tree huggers have embraced.

And it hasn't been getting increasingly hotter since man started fucking around and shit.

You're brilliant.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

I think I may have actually misread the point of the thread title.

My opinion of the unpopular is that I am better than them by virtue of the fact that people like me more.

[curtismedellin]

And it hasn't been getting increasingly hotter since man started fucking around and shit.

You're brilliant.

It is an unpopular opinion Peewee.

[midgetonadonkey]

Say Anything was the best teenage romance movie of the 80's. Better than Sixteen Candles.

[ATRAIN]

Say Anything was the best teenage romance movie of the 80's. Better than Sixteen Candles.

LOL this one might stir up some people. I would so no and say 3'oclock high was but that wasnt a teenage romance movie. So on that note.

3 o'clock high was the best 80's teenage movie.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

LOL this one might stir up some people. I would so no and say 3'oclock high was but that wasnt a teenage romance movie. So on that note.

3 o'clock high was the best 80's teenage movie.

Fuck that noise. Summer School FTMFW.

[midgetonadonkey]

Fuck both of you.

KARATE KID

[peewee's lovechild]

It is an unpopular opinion Peewee.

:lol:lol:lol

True.

[peewee's lovechild]

LOL this one might stir up some people. I would so no and say 3'oclock high was but that wasnt a teenage romance movie. So on that note.

3 o'clock high was the best 80's teenage movie.

Pretty In Pink.

Greatest. 80s. Teenage. Romance. Movie.

Ever.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Glory of Love is a great song midge, and I might almost agree with you if I didn't now think that your love of that movie is due to a pedo bear streak for Elizabeth Shue.

[peewee's lovechild]

Fuck both of you.

KARATE KID

Gayest 80s movie.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Napoleon Dynamite was one of the worst comedies ever made.

[peewee's lovechild]

Glory of Love is a great song midge, and I might almost agree with you if I didn't now think that your love of that movie is due to a pedo bear streak for Elizabeth Shue.

The Japanese chick was hotter.

[peewee's lovechild]

The movies still suck anyway.

[JoeChalupa]

NASCAR sucks.

[ATRAIN]

Glory of Love is a great song midge, and I might almost agree with you if I didn't now think that your love of that movie is due to a pedo bear streak for Elizabeth Shue.

Yeah but that was from part 2 so that disqualifies your argument.

[ATRAIN]

The Japanese chick was hotter.

FUCK NO!!

[Extra Stout]

The last sentence was about your stance on homosexuality. Why is it that so many people obsess on THAT sin and seem to act as if it is the end all and be all of sinfulness- while disregarding all the others.
This is very easy to explain. Only about 5% of the population has to deal with homosexual attraction, so it is very easy for the other 95% to judge them.

Now if somebody were to start polemicizing against men who use pornography on the internet... well, that starts hitting close to home.

If yet another person were to tell American Christians that gluttony falls in the same category as sexual sin... now that's getting personal.

If somebody else were to point out that the $100 a month someone spends on ITunes could feed, clothe, and educate three African orphans... well, that starts to sound kind of judgmental.

[ATRAIN]

Pretty In Pink.

Greatest. 80s. Teenage. Romance. Movie.

Ever.

LOL I knew it!!! You are a closet homo!!

[Extra Stout]

The contribution of the United States of America to high culture is probably the lowest relative to population and resources of any nation that has ever existed.

[peewee's lovechild]

LOL I knew it!!! You are a closet homo!!

I'm a homo because I'm still in love with Molly Ringwald?

That makes plenty of sense.

[Extra Stout]

The Olympics are stupid. They do not celebrate anything of value. They are simply a vehicle to generate television ad revenue and to promote the host nation's propaganda.

[Extra Stout]

People who think they are informed postmodernists because they espouse relativism are like people who think they are informed biologists because they watched an episode of Planet Earth.

[Extra Stout]

Most people who are "green" are just trying to convince themselves there is a way to continue being mindless consumer drones without the nasty global consequences.

[ATRAIN]

I'm a homo because I'm still in love with Molly Ringwald?

That makes plenty of sense.

She was flat and you know you loved it because of Andrew Mcarthy.

[midgetonadonkey]

She was flat and you know you loved it because of Andrew Mcarthy.

I have inside information that he had and possibly still has massive amounts of man lust for James Spader.

[peewee's lovechild]

She was flat and you know you loved it because of Andrew Mcarthy.

She was the hottest chick of the 80s.

I still jerk to her.

Who's this Andrew Mcarthy person?
And, why do you know who this is?

[peewee's lovechild]

I have inside information that he had and possibly still has massive amounts of man lust for James Spader.

Who's James Spader and why do you know so much about him?

[ATRAIN]

I have inside information that he had and possibly still has massive amounts of man lust for James Spader.



Which one was James Spader, the prick best friend aka richer?

[ATRAIN]

She was the hottest chick of the 80s.

I still jerk to her.

Who's this Andrew Mcarthy person?
And, why do you know who this is?

Don't act like you dont fucking know who he was!! Come on you know you can name all of the Brat Pack.

[midgetonadonkey]

Glory of Love is a great song midge, and I might almost agree with you if I didn't now think that your love of that movie is due to a pedo bear streak for Elizabeth Shue.

She was 20 at the time of filming of Karate Kid. Your pedo bear theory has just been shot down.

[ATRAIN]

She was 20 at the time of filming of Karate Kid. Your pedo bear theory has just been shot down.

Shue was hot then and still hot now.

[ATRAIN]

OK are you guys ready for this


Van Damme's Roundhouse kick is more powerful than Chuck Norris.....................///////END THREAD

[j-6]

Monogamy is a more difficult lifestyle choice than celibacy.

[whottt]

Marriage is a creation of man.

So is the PC, Language, wirting, verbal and symbolic communication....will you now turn it off, stop thinking, communicating, and go live in the woods?

It's a also a survival function, depending on the environment.

Most animals don't evolve by biocultural evolution and produce offspring which take decades to grow to maturity and that are virtually helpless prior to doing so.


I'm not saying you have to be married...but saying you shouldn't be is as off as saying you should be.




Humans (as a species) were never meant to have only one partner for life.

False...it depends on the environment and the male to female ratio. among other things.


It also depends on the individuals...and that is man's nature.


And there are mongomaous creatures in nature.



Which ties in with another human construct, religion. Religion in essence, is the denial of your nature.

Or the embracement of it......




To try and be something youre not and were never meant to be.

Link?



Another man-made mechanism of control and order to alleviate the feeble-minded of the knowledge that the unverse is chaos and so is life.


Okaaaaaay.