Summer League Game 6: Spurs vs. D-League All-Stars

[timvp]

Starts in a couple minutes.

Video link not working for me :(

[ace3g]

yeah hasn't been working all day, I even tried watching the Mavs/Iran game with no luck

[roycrikside]

so it's not just me then. Well this blows.

[ChumpDumper]

Buncha idiots running the show in Utah. :pctoss

[ace3g]

unless they are only broadcasting the Utah games, did they stream the Hawks/Mavs game last night?

[xellos88330]

Aaarrrrrggggghhhhhhh!!!!! No Vid!!! Aaaaarrrrrrrggggghhhh!!!

[timvp]

Sweet I think I found a backdoor link:

http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia-live/nba/41216/500_nba-utah_team_080717.asx

:elephant

[ace3g]

sweet it is working, thanks timvp

[xellos88330]

O.O nice one timvp :D

[ace3g]

vid is showing Hill highlights right now

[timvp]

Nice Hill highlight package.

[xellos88330]

aaarrggghhh.... its skipping on me. how do you fix it!!!

[timvp]

Damn this buffering crap is horrid. Is Salt Lake City stuck in like 1997?

[Brutalis]

Not working for me, oh well.

[ace3g]

it shows for about 1 sec then turns off again

[Kori Ellis]

11-10 with 2:41 to go in the first

[roycrikside]

anybody got a link? A working link?

[Behrooz24]

http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia-live/nba/41216/500_nba-utah_team_080717.asx

open in vlc, works for me

[tempest186]

Hill hits a 3!.......after the whistle

[024]

hill just hit a three, but it didn't count. 3 seconds violation.

[ace3g]

now it is working

[mardigan]

http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia-live/nba/41216/500_nba-utah_team_080717.asx

open in vlc, works for me
Awesome

[MannyIsGod]

Dude, Jameal Watkins is so bad. Amazingly bad.

[MannyIsGod]

I gotta say I'm pretty dissapointed with Ian's finishing (or lack thereof) around the basket.

[tempest186]

Nice pass Hairston

[timvp]

I gotta say I'm pretty dissapointed with Ian's finishing (or lack thereof) around the basket.You don't approve of him getting blocked by point guards? :spin

[Behrooz24]

Exciting game

[timvp]

Tatum looks like he's 5'7, 145.

[roycrikside]

http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia-live/nba/41216/500_nba-utah_team_080717.asx

open in vlc, works for me

what's vlc?

[bigdog]

decent start. I'd like to see some more aggressiveness down low, though.

[timaios]

My eyyyes !!!

The pictures are actually... moving !!!

[ggoose25]

ian has some quick feet. He's just so damn goofy.

[Behrooz24]

what's vlc?

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

[dimsah]

whistle, whistle, whistle, whistle. Gott Damn!!

[jayc23]

lol hill smiling while he shoots

[timvp]

Gist not playing has resulted in this team having almost no energy.

[ChumpDumper]

So Powell is our small ball PF.

[ggoose25]

Why the super small ball? We have no rebounding out there

[ggoose25]

or interior D :lol

[timvp]

Mahinmi sleep walking through another game. Hill's aggressiveness level from last night isn't there.

[ChumpDumper]

Tulsa's coach is doing a good job with the Ambassadors' defense. The Spurs' sucking is helping them too.

[timvp]

Mahinmi needs to spend a summer in Argentina so he can learn how to fall. He's going to hurt himself again the way he falls now.

[Jobbs]

the D-League is gonna kick our ass

[timvp]

Hill playing some annoying defense :tu

[ggoose25]

Good D Hill! This kid is picking up his game

[ChumpDumper]

Nice swarming D. Good idea for super small ball.

[ggoose25]

I dont know what it is... he's not that much bigger than Parker, but he plays much more physical defense. maybe he has a larger wingspan.

[timvp]

Green is such a ball hog.

[Gooshie]

Hill's interior passing in this game has been pretty good. Too bad Ian can't make 'em count.

[usckk]

Man, little disappointed with Ians athleticism. I thought he could jump higher. Gist is more athletic . Good D HILL on taking charge.

[VaSpursFan]

hill is a beast on d...i like this kid

[024]

good pass selections by hill. too bad his teammates suck.

[boutons_]

thanks, vlc is working fine. microsoft sucks

[usckk]

LOL, right after I said that he dunks it.

[timvp]

Mahinmi awakens . . .

[Brutalis]

OMG Ian just pissed all over dude... wowowowowowowow...

[ggoose25]

Ian makes me appreciate DRob. They move similarly, but DRob was so much more dominating when he was young, and he had a sweet jumper.

[kobyz]

2 good plays by Mahinmi

[timvp]

hill is a beast on d...i like this kidYeah this second quarter his D has been dominant. He has a hand in four or five turnovers.

[ChumpDumper]

Some really heady play by Tolliver on that steal and break earlier.

[underdawg]

Gist not playing today?

[Whisky Dog]

Is Ian a Rasho-Nazr hybrid? Can't catch, can't finish.

[Spurs Brazil]

Ian with 2 good plays

[usckk]

Is Ian a Rasho-Nazr hybrid? Can't catch, can't finish.

Maybe a little Elson?

[thekingrobert]

last play I saw was Ian dunking at 20-31 then it clunked out

[ggoose25]

that was a tough pass

[VaSpursFan]

hill's passing is improving too. he's putting it together slowly but surely.

[bigdog]

Ian is much better than most of you think.

Im impressed by Green, he's had a pretty decent game.

[timvp]

Tolliver looks like a mix of John Salley and Uncle Phil.

[Brutalis]

Hill's interior passing in this game has been pretty good. Too bad Ian can't make 'em count.

I don't think that was Ian.

[urunobili]

is Gist in the active list?

[Brutalis]

That D-League team really sucks bad. That tall white guy is so lost on offense without the ball. :lmao

[timvp]

is Gist in the active list?I'm guessing Gist and Morrison have been given the day off after playing five games in five days.

[kobyz]

Hill must develop a mid range game

[Bruno]

Between refs whistling everything and player not used to play together, SL games are damn horrible to watch.
D-League games are a thing of beauty comparing to that.

[xellos88330]

Hill, I think, is hesitating to shoot. I think he is focusing more on getting shots for his team than himself. Several times he was eyeballing the basket and looked to be going into his shot, but then passed it up.

[kobyz]

who is the better defender right now Hill or Parker?

[jayc23]

Hill must develop a mid range game

hes got a mid range game.. hes just not used to using it as a point guard

[xellos88330]

who is the better defender right now Hill or Parker?

Kinda hard to say. Parker is in the NBA and Hill isn't quite in it yet. Maybe after a season in the NBA you could get a relevant answer from me :P

[Bluejay26]

Tolliver has really improved his shooting since I saw him play in college. Hes developed a nice outside touch, although he did rush a couple in the first half of this game. Hes always been a great hustler for rebounds, charges, and blocked shots if called upon. I look for him to make an opening day roster....what do the rest fo you think about Tolliver?

[ChumpDumper]

who is the better defender right now Hill or Parker?I'm pretty sure Tony could shut down Erick Craven if he knew who he was.

[kobyz]

hes got a mid range game.. hes just not used to using it as a point guard

so he need to start, all the summer league he is or shooting 3 or go all the way to the basket

[jayc23]

parker i think has the quickness edge on defense.. hill has the wingspan edge and its really an advantage on passing lanes

[timvp]

Between refs whistling everything and player not used to play together, SL games are damn horrible to watch.
D-League games are a thing of beauty comparing to that.This game is especially bad since they are going up against a bunch of D-Leaguers who weren't good enough to latch on to other summer league teams. A couple of the games have been pretty decent to watch. D-League games are cleaner but it is also a lower talent level ... so the trade off makes it about equal in my eyes.


who is the better defender right now Hill or Parker?

Parker is a really good defender when he tries. Hill has a chance to be a good defender but probably should wait to see him go against actual NBA players before making the comparison.

[jayc23]

I agree with you that he needs to tear drop or pull a mid range jumper.. his strength is his deceptive first step.. he loses his advantage taking it all the way to the rim

[ChumpDumper]

Tolliver has really improved his shooting since I saw him play in college. Hes developed a nice outside touch, although he did rush a couple in the first half of this game. Hes always been a great hustler for rebounds, charges, and blocked shots if called upon. I look for him to make an opening day roster....what do the rest fo you think about Tolliver?There's a discussion going on here:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101539

I'm sure he has a camp invite. If we don't sign any other big men aside from Thomas, he has a slight chance of making the team.

[timvp]

Tolliver has really improved his shooting since I saw him play in college. Hes developed a nice outside touch, although he did rush a couple in the first half of this game. Hes always been a great hustler for rebounds, charges, and blocked shots if called upon. I look for him to make an opening day roster....what do the rest fo you think about Tolliver?He has a chance to make it in the NBA but he'll need to become a very good shooter. The rest of his game isn't good enough to survive unless he's can shoot ~38-40% on three-pointers. Even then, his upside is that of a eighth or ninth man.

[jayc23]

The only person that can truly beat George Hill is himself.. obviously besides upper echelon NBA players but.. Hill is a lake of talent but he handicaps himself with thinking too much sometimes... he needs to get NBA mental toughness, and he needs to play with instinct.. which he does.. but playing a new position.. he is slowly but surely.. playing the game more and thinking less.

[Spurs Brazil]

Nice J by Ian

[VaSpursFan]

bye bonner...sign tolliver

[Spurs Brazil]

Green is a ballhog. Fuck

[jayc23]

Jesus Let Them Play

[VaSpursFan]

ian is picking his game up

[Spurs Brazil]

Ian dunk, 12pts

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Bud with the T

Not that I disagree. Tolliver just got out of the restricted area.

[ggoose25]

Anyone know who that girl in the white behind Bud is?

[Spurs Brazil]

T on coach Bud :lol

[jayc23]

what are these development league refs.. they trying to make the Ref all star team or something

[ceperez]

Tolliver is real deadly!

[VaSpursFan]

tolliver hits another j and my feed dies...wtf???

[jayc23]

tolliver is money

[jayc23]

Hill, Tolliver, Ian, Gist

[timvp]

Tolliver has picture perfect form on his jumpers. He's worked on it a lot since last season.

[VaSpursFan]

tolliver is money

agreed. he has a skill we need, dead eye jumpshooting

[thekingrobert]

whats the score and Hill's stats?

[ChumpDumper]

Tolliver has a nice quick release too.

[jayc23]

are you fucking kidding me... on these fouls

[dimsah]

How do any of these players learn anything when they have to stop play because of a whistle every 10 seconds?

[timvp]

Hill needs to shoot that.

[jayc23]

cut green

[debo]

at least hill was aggressive
now he needs to finish

[jayc23]

hes gotta go glass on that drive

[VaSpursFan]

Hill needs to shoot that.

he's still not sure when to shoot. but in the league, you always shoot the wide open shot. he'll learn.

also, as he learns the tear drop, he should consider using the glass. it makes it a little easier.

[jayc23]

Hill is very good off the glass..hes got a mid range fade away in his arsenal aswell

[debo]

silky

[jayc23]

terrible inside d

[timvp]

One bad habit Hill will have to get rid of is passing with one hand all the time. On the NBA level, the players are quick enough that they will jump it and he won't be able to pull it back. You can use it sometimes but Hill goes with the one-handed pass about 75% of the time.

[jayc23]

One bad habit Hill will have to get rid of is passing with one hand all the time. On the NBA level, the players are quick enough that they will jump it and he won't be able to pull it back. You can use it sometimes but Hill goes with the one-handed pass about 75% of the time.

Thats a combo guard bad habit

[jayc23]

these refs suck ass

[jayc23]

that was a good shot

[debo]

hill is to passive

[T Park]

hill is to passive

Trying to be a point guard.

[SequSpur]

Trying to be a point guard.

No, he is just being Hill.

There is no ray of sunshine...

[Spurtacus]

What's the score?

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not watching.

[debo]

Ian needs to dunk that

[Brutalis]

Video is buffering every 10 secs.

[dimsah]

Soft

[timvp]

Way to go up strong, Mahinmi :rolleyes

[ChumpDumper]

Ian's passivity is puzzling and annoying.

[timvp]

Mahinmi had a good stretch but he's reverted back to mindless play.

[ggoose25]

:lol

Ian can't move without fouling

[timvp]

:clap @ Bud going off on Mahinmi.

[DespЏrado]

Lol you tell him Bud.

[ggoose25]

OH, is he even listening to Bud??? This guy .... i dunno

[JamStone]

Thats a combo guard bad habit

John Stockton loved to pass the ball with one hand, especially off the dribble.

[Brutalis]

No point watching this if it's going to lag and buffer like this.

[timvp]

This is like WCF Game 1 :lol :cry

[Spurs Brazil]

Watkins is terrible

[ChumpDumper]

Using Powell and Watkins as big men is a formula for a loss.

[Spurs Brazil]

Tolliver is cold now

[timvp]

Bring back in Mahinmi. See how he responds to Bud yelling at him.

[ElNono]

Shoot, just got home. I thought the game started 8:30 ET!
I'll try to catch up a bit with the comments.

I gather Gist is not playing?

[DespЏrado]

This is like WCF Game 1 :lol :cry

You can see a lot of Pop's tendencies coming through coach Bud's play calling...and that may not be a good thing.

[Spurs Brazil]

R.C interview

[jayc23]

lol attract good players?

[jayc23]

go go, mason!

[ggoose25]

who's three?

[Spurs Brazil]

He just said Horry won't be back

[Cloud786]

Robert Horry won't be back according to RC..

[Behrooz24]

lol attract good players?

"good players who want to play for us" :rolleyes

[ggoose25]

Horry is gone!

[Spur-Addict]

He just said Horry won't be back

YES HE DID :lol

[tempest186]

Horry won't be back.

[SequSpur]

is hill going to do something or keep watching? wtf.....

[ChumpDumper]

:lol they talk to an ex-ref for most of a quarter and RC for two minutes.

[jayc23]

wow. that was an ugly fast break.. ala GREEN!!

[ggoose25]

Green is so unaccustomed to passing that he can't do it anymore

[tp2021]

wait...what were R.C.s exact words concerning Rob?

[DespЏrado]

wait...what were R.C.s exact words concerning Rob?

That he and Barry won't be back and they leave big holes.

[ElNono]

wait...what were R.C.s exact words concerning Rob?

He said Horry is not coming back to the team this year

[Spurs Brazil]

wait...what were R.C.s exact words concerning Rob?

Key players like Horry and Barry won't be back

[ChumpDumper]

Green is so unaccustomed to passing that he can't do it anymoreIt's funny because he averaged over 4 assists a game this season.

Maybe he's just being told to score.

[DespЏrado]

Nice move by Malik.

[tp2021]

I wonder if he says that and means the Spurs are going to just let him go, or if they won't actively pursue him unless every other option runs dry.

[jayc23]

why would you stop your shooting motion mid shotand then shoot it

[ggoose25]

Maybe. He has been over dribbling and looks for his shot non stop.

[urunobili]

this is a dream stream man

[timvp]

It's funny because he averaged over 4 assists a game this season.

Maybe he's just being told to score.Looks more like a guy who is desperate to make the NBA and is trying too hard to make an impression.

[DespЏrado]

I wonder if he says that and means the Spurs are going to just let him go, or if they won't actively pursue him unless every other option runs dry.

It was pretty unequivocal that he said they are no longer interested in Horry, no idea if he's already going elsewhere or just retiring.

[Spurs Brazil]

Great D by Hill

[jayc23]

Looks more like a guy who is desperate to make the NBA and is trying too hard to make an impression.

Looks more like a dleague all star wannabe than a developing player

[ChumpDumper]

Looks more like a guy who is desperate to make the NBA and is trying too hard to make an impression.You'd think the staff would have pulled the reins by now if they didn't like his play.

[Spurs Brazil]

Ian in coach Bud doghouse :lol

[Spurs Brazil]

Hill DUNK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[VaSpursFan]

hill with the nice move and dunk

[jayc23]

lololol

[ggoose25]

Dunk On Head

[DespЏrado]

Ian in coach Bud doghouse :lol

He's so timid out there....

Oh shit nice dunk by Hill!

[tp2021]

He dunks better than Tony.

[timvp]

Eh that wasn't a hesitation move by Hill. He had it the whole way, he just got passive for a split second.

[SequSpur]

Wow! After getting a cakewalk opening to the hole, he finally saw the light!

[knee-knee-3]

I didn't know SA point guards were allowed to dunk!

[timvp]

Ian in coach Bud doghouse :lolMaybe this will result in 40 minutes of effort next game from Mahinmi. If not, Austin will have a good shot at winning the championship next year.

[DespЏrado]

Eh that wasn't a hesitation move by Hill. He had it the whole way, he just got passive for a split second.

Sadly that looks right on the replay...It was a hell of a move if it was intentional.

[ggoose25]

I want one of those retro Spurs T-shirts.

[jayc23]

He dunks better than Tony.

he has a 37 " vert

[DespЏrado]

Crap trap gets hill to cough it up. Bad sign.

[ggoose25]

Hill really has trouble with pressure on the dribble

[ElNono]

back to back turnovers in crunch time...

[tp2021]

he has a 37 " vert

It was a joke. No numbers needed.

[timvp]

Bud draws up a play for Hairston in crunch time :tu

[ElNono]

Bud draws up a play for Hairston in crunch time :tu

Did he play good tonight?

[ElNono]

Nice block.. was that Green?

[tp2021]

Packed by Green!

[Spurs Brazil]

Great block by Green

[tp2021]

Shut up, white kids.

[ChumpDumper]

Nice block.. was that Green?Yeah. Good/lucky timing.

[timvp]

Good block by Green.

[tp2021]

Missed free throws? They're Spurs, alright.

[Behrooz24]

Game. GTFO

[Spurs Brazil]

Spurs win 68-65

[ggoose25]

I found a pic of Tolliver's post game interview:

http://haveadayeveryday.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/beetlejuice_closeup.jpg

[Bluejay26]

Tolliver iced the game....hes improved his free throw touch too!

[ChumpDumper]

Oh man, watching Bud lift Ian's hands up is priceless.

[Bluejay26]

I guess they all look alike, Goose:nope

[timvp]

I found a pic of Tolliver's post game interview:

http://haveadayeveryday.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/beetlejuice_closeup.jpg

:lol

Tolliver wasn't too pleased about getting tackled there at the end.

[ggoose25]

I guess they all look alike, Goose:nope

man, its not even like that. He really does look like beetlejuice.

[tp2021]

they all look alike

[ChumpDumper]

:lol

Tolliver wasn't too pleased about getting tackled there at the end.That was his teammate most of the season, wasn't it?

[timvp]

Pretty decent game. Mahinmi had a really good stretch followed by a horrible stretch. Hill's energy wasn't there (no crashing the boards or using his speed offensively) but he played decently smart for most of the game. Considering the competition, Hill honestly should have played better. Hairston looks pretty comfortable ... now he just has to start making more of an impact.

Gist not being out there to cause havoc and have Mahinmi's back made the game closer than it otherwise would have been.

[SequSpur]

I don't know if it was strategy but hill gave the ball up immediately after getting the ball across midcourt and then ran over to the weak side to hide...

wtf?

RC made a comment about Hill's aggressiveness.

[ChumpDumper]

Looks like this was a scoring showcase game for Tolliver and Green as well as a continuation of the Roger Powell PF experiment.

[Bruno]

Hill played great defense but his offense was damn horrible. He needs to adapt at the PG spot, the professional level and re-gain his confidence.

Mahinmi was so frustrated to watch. He is talented and skilled but he didn't even try to play today. He is usually a players with some fire but show none today and in some previous games. I really wonder what's wrong with him. Something behind the scene should have happened because I just can't understand how he can show so little effort on the court.

Toliver can shoot and that's all.

Hairston has had a decent game, as a rotation player for a SL team.

Green is a good SL player but I don't consider him as an interesting NBA prospect.

[Ice009]

That he and Barry won't be back and they leave big holes.

wtf does this mean they tried to resign both players and the spurned us?

[Brutalis]

I don't understand Ian.

[ChumpDumper]

wtf does this mean they tried to resign both players and the spurned us?I doubt they tried.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

wtf does this mean they tried to resign both players and the spurned us?

No, they were just being professional and saying nice things about departing players like they always do.

Back away from the ledge.

[SequSpur]

Mahinmi was so frustrated to watch. He is talented and skilled but he didn't even try to play today. He is usually a players with some fire but show none today and in some previous games. I really wonder what's wrong with him. Something behind the scene should have happened because I just can't understand how he can show so little effort on the court. .

Well, that's the Spurs big men... Rasho, Nazr, and now Mahinmi...

All have head up the ass syndrome...

Now it looks like it's translating to point guards.. Now the Spurs have another point guard to join vaughn in thinking that their job is to get the ball to midcourt and watch...

WTF is that?


It's fricking pitiful...

[Brutalis]

That was boring. Spurs are boring.

[tp2021]

Wah

[ChumpDumper]

That was boring. Spurs are boring.Didn't you say you weren't even watching it because of your shitty internets provider?

[Brutalis]

Didn't you say you weren't even watching it because of your shitty internets provider?

I have a sarcasm detector for sale. Interested? :sleep

[SequSpur]

no one no one..............

[jayc23]

Pretty decent game. Mahinmi had a really good stretch followed by a horrible stretch. Hill's energy wasn't there (no crashing the boards or using his speed offensively) but he played decently smart for most of the game. Considering the competition, Hill honestly should have played better. Hairston looks pretty comfortable ... now he just has to start making more of an impact.

Gist not being out there to cause havoc and have Mahinmi's back made the game closer than it otherwise would have been.

All of the Spurs young blood have a long way to go to prepare for this season... lets just hope they have the bball IQ to pick up the pace

Even being a friend of George's I'm kind of pissed at him.. i really fucking hate it when he plays 75% tilt... I know what hes capable of , ive seen it.. and when he plays with out passion and doesn't shoot the ball when hes wide open or take the first step and take an open mid ranger.. The NBA will quickly bitch slap him into fully utilizing his tools and talents..

George hill in attack mode ='s gtfo of the way... I know hes learning point... but he has to attack even as a PG to create openings and scoring opportunities.. if he plays catch on the point all they get is weak entry passes and perimeter shots because atleast on summer team.. besides for a hairston going to the rim here and there.. NOBODY is slashing

[timvp]

Hill played great defense but his offense was damn horrible. He needs to adapt at the PG spot, the professional level and re-gain his confidence. His offense was non-existent. Made a couple of good plays but his aggressiveness and playmaking just wasn't there. Not sure if he's tired or trying to show something else but he looked like he did in Vegas again.


Mahinmi was so frustrated to watch. He is talented and skilled but he didn't even try to play today. He is usually a players with some fire but show none today and in some previous games. I really wonder what's wrong with him. Something behind the scene should have happened because I just can't understand how he can show so little effort on the court. Yeah RMR has been a disaster so far for him. Last game he grabbed only one rebound. This game he suddenly just stopped trying and starting hacking. Maybe Bud going off on him and the day off will wake him up. As it stands, he's way more likely to be playing with the Toros again than to be in the Spurs rotation.

[ChumpDumper]

I have a sarcasm detector for sale. Interested? :sleepI dunno, the first three quarters were pretty excruciating.

[T Park]

His offense was non-existent. Made a couple of good plays but his aggressiveness and playmaking just wasn't there. Not sure if he's tired or trying to show something else but he looked like he did in Vegas again.


Or maybe thats what he was told to do?

[jayc23]

Tpark.. you heard RC... he wants him to be more aggressive and play.. he wasnt told to no playmake ... having a shooting slump is one thing.. not playing with energy and passion is another thing.

[T Park]

Tpark.. you heard RC... he wants him to be more aggressive and play.. he wasnt told to no playmake


Uh ok.

I didn't hear him, because I've been working and don't have a good connection to watch video. But ok.

[ChumpDumper]

I think Meyer threw a wrench in the Spurs' offensive plans with all that zone he was calling.

[SequSpur]

yeah..quit making excuses for Hill. He is either not very good or he knows he has money in the bank and the summer don't mean shit.

[T Park]

I don't know who Hill is, I'm just guessing.

[jayc23]

Tpark, R.C said "I think Hes being a little too passive trying to make us happy too much, I would like him to play and be more aggressive and make some plays..." that wasn't word for word.. but he basically said .. george was trying too hard to fit into the PG mold role .. he needs to relax play his game and let it come.

[SequSpur]

Tpark, R.C said "I think Hes being a little too passive trying to make us happy too much, I would like him to play and be more aggressive and make some plays..." that wasn't word for word.. but he basically said .. george was trying too hard to fit into the PG mold role .. he needs to relax play his game and let it come.

don't waste your time, tpark's just getting his retardation therapy right now and his nurse is letting him post on spurstalk.

Ducks and Tpark live in an institution for dumb asses.

[knee-knee-3]

yeah..quit making excuses for Hill. He is either not very good or he knows he has money in the bank and the summer don't mean shit.

You're a funny little fucker!

[DPG21920]

This is where not getting Tiago hurts the most.

[tp2021]

Did Gist play at all? I only caught the last 5 minutes, but judging by the early posts, he wasn't playing much. Why not? Did the coaches want to see more out of other players in this game?

[Spurs Brazil]

Did Gist play at all? I only caught the last 5 minutes, but judging by the early posts, he wasn't playing much. Why not? Did the coaches want to see more out of other players in this game?

No, Gist didn't play today

[ChumpDumper]

This is where not getting Tiago hurts the most.Summer league games that the Spurs win?

[bdictjames]

Box score anyone?

[timaios]

His offense was non-existent. Made a couple of good plays but his aggressiveness and playmaking just wasn't there. Not sure if he's tired or trying to show something else but he looked like he did in Vegas again.

Yeah RMR has been a disaster so far for him. Last game he grabbed only one rebound. This game he suddenly just stopped trying and starting hacking. Maybe Bud going off on him and the day off will wake him up. As it stands, he's way more likely to be playing with the Toros again than to be in the Spurs rotation.

I think Ian is bored with garbage games.
One year in NBDL + summer league is to much.
He wants to play with the real Spurs in the real NBA... He's waiting that since 2005.
No way he will return with the Toros one more year.
If it's not the Spurs, it will be Europe.

[DPG21920]

Summer league games that the Spurs win?

Yes. Because SL wins are about as useful as a poop flavored lollipop.

[ChumpDumper]

http://www.nba.com/media/jazz/rmr08_day2_sasnbdl.pdf

[DPG21920]

Obviously I was referring to the fact that our big man situation is in peril. As of right now or only big men that we know will be on the team are: Duncan, Oberto and Bonner. With Ian kind of struggling (but showing small flashes), KT up in the air still, we could of definitely used the insurance of Tiago being on the roster.

[ceperez]

Obviously I was referring to the fact that our big man situation is in peril. As of right now or only big men that we know will be on the team are: Duncan, Oberto and Bonner. With Ian kind of struggling (but showing small flashes), KT up in the air still, we could of definitely used the insurance of Tiago being on the roster.

Maybe we should take a gamble signing Krstic and unloading Bonner to clear cap space?

[ChumpDumper]

Maybe we should take a gamble signing Krstic and unloading Bonner to clear cap space?We have no money to sign Krstic and unloading Bonner would clear no cap space.

[SPURSGOAT]

Did Gist play at all? I only caught the last 5 minutes, but judging by the early posts, he wasn't playing much. Why not? Did the coaches want to see more out of other players in this game?

Gist didn't play at all; they rested him. So he will get two days off since they don't play on Sunday. I'm guessing since he looked real tired after playing 5 days in a row and has showen enough to deserve the rest. Cuz Hariston played his 6th straight game; probably has not proved himself to deserve the rest.

[Darkwaters]

I think Ian is bored with garbage games.
One year in NBDL + summer league is to much.
He wants to play with the real Spurs in the real NBA... He's waiting that since 2005.
No way he will return with the Toros one more year.
If it's not the Spurs, it will be Europe.

Ummm, hes under contract for 3 more years...so YES he will be on the team next season no matter where they intend to play him. Don't be ignorant.

[ducks]

I wonder if ian has been told he was going to start in austin and get called up and is ticked