**Official** Elite XC 7/26/2008 Lawler vs Smith 2

[ATRAIN]

Main event (televised on CBS):

Elite XC middleweight champion “Ruthless” Robbie Lawler (15-4) vs Scott “Hands of Steel” Smith (13-4)

CBS card (televised):

170 lbs.: Jake Shields (20-4-1) vs Nick “The Goat” Thompson (36-9-1) for vacant Elite XC welterweight championship
160 lbs.: Nick Diaz (17-7) vs Thomas “Wildman” Denny (26-16)
140 lbs.: Shayna Baszler (9-4) vs Cristiane “Cris” Cyborg (4-0)

Showtime card (televised):

265 lbs.: Antonio “Bigfoot” Silva (10-1) vs Justin Eilers (19-6-1) for vacant Elite XC heavyweight championship
140 lbs.: Wilson Reis (4-0) vs Brian Caraway (9-2)
205 lbs.: Rafael Feijao (6-1) vs Travais Galbraith

I am thinking this is on the showtime or undercard

Mike Cook vs Carl Seumantafa
Brandon Tarn vs Drew Montgomery

[Evan]

TV TIMES

ELITE XC: JULY 26, 2008 ON CBS & SHOWTIME
venue: Stockton Arena in Stockton, California

Scheduled to air on CBS:
-Robbie Lawler (#4 Middleweight in the World)* vs. Scott Smith
-Jake Shields (#7 Welterweight in the World)* vs. Nick Thompson
-Nick Diaz vs. Thomas Denny
-Shayna Baszler vs. Cristiane Cyborg

Scheduled to air on Showtime:
-Antonio Silva vs. Justin Eilers
-Wilson Reis vs. Brian Caraway
-Rafael Feijao Cavalcante vs. Travis Galbraith

Preliminary Bout:
-Anthony Ruiz vs. Jeremy Freitag

Main card airs live on Saturday, July 26 from 8:00 PM to 9:00 PM (ET/PT) on Showtime; and from 9:00 PM to 11:00 PM (ET/PT) on CBS

[Evan]

Absolutely wonderful card and EliteXC needs to be focusing on such a great cad like this and less on that piece of trash Kimbo.

[ATRAIN]

Im going to be visiting my parents this weekend and they have showtime!! So ill get to watch both!! SWEET. Yeah I agree Kimbo is a over-rated piece of crap and shouldnt be the Savior of Elite XC!!

[djohn14]

Elite XC middleweight champion “Ruthless” Robbie Lawler (15-4) vs Scott “Hands of Steel” Smith (13-4)--Cant wait for part two!


170 lbs.: Jake Shields (20-4-1) vs Nick “The Goat” Thompson (36-9-1) for vacant Elite XC welterweight championship
160 lbs.: Nick Diaz (17-7) vs Thomas “Wildman” Denny (26-16)-Wonder what he can pull off for us
140 lbs.: Shayna Baszler (9-4) vs Cristiane “Cris” Cyborg (4-0)


265 lbs.: Antonio “Bigfoot” Silva (10-1) vs Justin Eilers (19-6-1) for vacant Elite XC heavyweight championship-Man i wish this was on CBS...Now I hace to pay 3 dollars to watch this
140 lbs.: Wilson Reis (4-0) vs Brian Caraway (9-2)
205 lbs.: Rafael Feijao (6-1) vs Travais Galbraith

[Evan]

Without question this is the best EliteXC card they have ever done. If only they had put this card together for the first televised CBS card and simply had Kimbo before the title fights they could have strengthened his "up and coming status" instead of turning him into a premier "can crusher."

But that’s what happens when a boxing promoter sinks his fangs into something good.

Anyway…cannot wait.

[LEONARD]

http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20080725043629_IMG_3325.JPG

F'n Thompson... :D
http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20080725044236_IMG_3246.JPG

wtf??!!
http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20080725044157_IMG_3226.JPG

http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20080725044010_IMG_3205.JPG

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Sporting Aoki tights? And is this the most ripped Diaz has ever been? Huge difference from his last fight where he missed by 9 lbs...
http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20080725044345_IMG_3274.JPG

Eilers = KO fodder
http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20080725044624_IMG_3464.JPG

[LEONARD]

Shayna is MMA Cute...

[Evan]

I think everyone is a bit MMA burned out but the most die hard of die hards….so still…everyone should DVR this. This is EliteXC's best card and if ratings are very poor could be one of the last, sadly.

[LEONARD]

lol...this is even worse than Thompson, who was doing a bit...
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/072508weighins/1017.jpg

The rare Japanese HW in the US...
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/072508weighins/1032.jpg

LMAO! Evinger still wants Gina...
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/072508weighins/1044.jpg

Stockton represent...lol (wow, nobody is giving the finger!)
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/072508weighins/1049.jpg

[Evan]

Stockton represent...lol (wow, nobody is giving the finger!)
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/072508weighins/1049.jpg

I now officially hate everything to do with the Diaz's.

[Evan]

lol...this is even worse than Thompson, who was doing a bit...
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/072508weighins/1017.jpg

This is the worst weight in picture I have ever seen........

May God have mercy on his soul for shaming us all.

[dallaskd]

Shayna is MMA Cute...

:vomit:

[dallaskd]

Should be an awesome card. Lawler-Smith and Shields-Thompson should be exciting. I really hope Silva makes the CBS card

[LEONARD]

I now officially hate everything to do with the Diaz's.

Esther Lin (photographer) chimes in...
http://www.fightlinker.com/?p=2809

[Evan]

:vomit:

One thing about female MMA pics

we're seeing girls without make up in bad lighting. She doesn't look bad at all.

[oligarchy]

Unless you're into ugly chicks.

[oligarchy]

These matchups also suck.

[Evan]

Unless you're into ugly chicks.

Give me a plain looking girl over some whore that has a fake tan, dyed hair, and a ton of make up. When you flea dip a whore they don't resemble anything that they looked like before.

[Evan]

damn..,must have been a blood bath in the prelim

Mr hyperbole sucks....hate it when he does color

[Evan]

what a disaster...their HW title belt is running late on showtime starts at 8 when CBS starts...

[Evan]

Cyborg will kill Gina

and its weird seeing Frank with braces...

[djohn14]

Robbie!!! Dang...I wish he and Silva would fight. Silva would tear him up. Pretty good show all around.

The Cyborg fight was pretty entertaining.

Shields is da man.

The Diaz fight was pretty sloppy, but good non-the-less.

Robbie won in another great fight.

They didnt have cheerleaders...no musicians...very good show!!!

[oligarchy]

Give me a plain looking girl over some whore that has a fake tan, dyed hair, and a ton of make up. When you flea dip a whore they don't resemble anything that they looked like before.

I understand what you mean with the fake girl, but even Gina is an example of a pretty girl. She isn't the hottest in the world, but she isn't any of the things you described. Still doesn't change the fact that those are two ugly women.

[oligarchy]

These matchups also suck.

[Evan]

I understand what you mean with the fake girl, but even Gina is an example of a pretty girl. She isn't the hottest in the world, but she isn't any of the things you described. Still doesn't change the fact that those are two ugly women.

I have seen pictures of both where they don't look so bad.

[Evan]

Lawler needs to never dance again.

[djohn14]

and its weird seeing Frank with braces...

I didnt know what it was at first. It looked goofy. That other announcer...Mauro or something. I hated him. He always came up with something dumb to say, like that fight lasted longer then Brett Favre's retirement. Anyone would know he was retired for like a month and a half. That fight did not last a month and a half.

[Evan]

His name is Mauro Ranallo and he is awful to listen to. Just horrible. Its just a constant stream of boring generic hyperbole's in that fake radio announcer voice.

But Frank gets better every fight.

[Evan]

about as bad as it gets

That airing back on May 31, 2008 scored 4.3 million viewers and a 1.9/6 among 18-49 year olds and since the Kimbo Slice bout for that airing aired past primetime (11p) the most viewed portion wasn’t included. But lacking any Kimbo anticipation, last night’s fights pulled a mere 2.62 million and a 1.0/3 from 9pm-11pm.

[djohn14]

about as bad as it gets

That airing back on May 31, 2008 scored 4.3 million viewers and a 1.9/6 among 18-49 year olds and since the Kimbo Slice bout for that airing aired past primetime (11p) the most viewed portion wasn’t included. But lacking any Kimbo anticipation, last night’s fights pulled a mere 2.62 million and a 1.0/3 from 9pm-11pm.

In all fairness, it wasnt advertised nearly as much.

[Evan]

In all fairness, it wasnt advertised nearly as much.

well yeah of course. They hurt themselves a bit here.

[djohn14]

Still though, pretty sad. And too me, it was a really nice night of fights, would you agree Evan?

[Evan]

Still though, pretty sad. And too me, it was a really nice night of fights, would you agree Evan?

Oh absolutely.

Wish this had been the first on CBS.

[djohn14]

Oh absolutely.

Wish this had been the first on CBS.

I do too. If this had been the first, then the second would have more viewers and this promotion would be better. This was a lousy show ratings wise, and really screwed up with that first show. It almost seamed like a joke with the dancing girls and music....they tried to go over the top, and blew so bad.

[Evan]

updated...1.9 not 1.0...still pretty low

Dave Meltzer of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter is reporting the show got a 1.9 rating on the overnight. When all markets finish reporting in the numbers should bump up a tenth or two for either a 2.0 or a 2.1. This would fall into the low 2 range that MMAPayout.com felt would be a decent number for the show, per our show preview.

[LEONARD]

I found the undercard fight that got the mat bloody...
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/view_album.php?id=1061&page=1

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/072608tarnmontgomery/1007.jpg

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http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/072608tarnmontgomery/1018.jpg

[LEONARD]

and I hope Cyborg has started a new trend in female fighter attire...

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/072608baszlersantos/1003.jpg

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/072608baszlersantos/1009.jpg

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[LEONARD]

Misc

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/072608event/1004.jpg

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[dallaskd]

Shields calls out all WWs and MWs....

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=6788&zoneid=2

[LEONARD]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3094/2711342201_59b64c2ec6.jpg

[dallaskd]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3094/2711342201_59b64c2ec6.jpg

haha that kinda looks like Stevenson when he he was spraying during the Penn rear naked choke.

[Evan]

And CBS now shits a brick and regrets not caving into the UFC's demands...

SPIKE TV’S RE-BROADCAST OF UFC 84 DRAWS MORE YOUNG MEN THAN A LIVE PRO ELITEXC CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHT ON CBS

Need proof the UFC is the preeminent mixed martial arts brand in the world? On Saturday, July 26, more men 18-34 watched a repeat…a repeat…of a UFC event on Spike TV than a LIVE telecast of a Pro EliteXC championship card on CBS. Despite being available in over 17 million more homes, Spike TV drew 27% more Men 18-34 for a re-broadcast of “UFC 84: Penn vs. Sherk” from (9:00-12:00am ET/PT) than CBS’s live show (9:00-11:00pm). Spike TV’s telecast tallied 433,000 Men 18-34 to CBS’s 341,000.

Overall, “UFC 84: Penn vs. Sherk” drew higher ratings than Pro EliteXC in Men 18-49 (1.5 to 1.3) and Men 18-34 (1.5 and 1.0).

Reminiscent of the XFL’s rating collapse years ago, the CBS telecast was 69% lower in Men 18-34 and 57% lower with Men 18-49 than its initial broadcast on CBS in May featuring the “He Hate Me” of MMA, Kimbo Slice.

Compared to last week’s live Spike TV UFC telecast featuring arguably the best pound for pound fighter in the world, Anderson Silva, the UFC outdrew CBS by 165% with Men 18-34, 82% with Men 18-49, and 21% with total viewers.

[Evan]

and now..........

ProElite, Inc., the parent company of Elite Xtreme Combat, declared via a filing with the Securities Exchange Committee that both Chairman and Chief Strategy Officer Doug DeLuca and EliteXC Live Events President Gary Shaw have resigned from the company.

[djohn14]

Ha Evan...I beat you in that post...I posted it in the Quick hits though....dang!

[dallaskd]

The UFC needs to work out a deal with FOX to make CBS feel even more like shit. :lol

[ATRAIN]

Shields calls out all WWs and MWs....

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=6788&zoneid=2

"Two of the fighters that Shields mentioned in his post fight interview are going to battle in the UFC on Aug 9 as champion Georges St. Pierre and top contender, Jon Fitch, face off in a championship bout. The California native would love to face the winner, but he understands that fight will not happen. . .at least for now."

yeah when I heard that and when he said lets unify the titles I was like wtf, he just won the belt and is already calling these guys outs. GSP would destroy him in 1 round.

[djohn14]

"Two of the fighters that Shields mentioned in his post fight interview are going to battle in the UFC on Aug 9 as champion Georges St. Pierre and top contender, Jon Fitch, face off in a championship bout. The California native would love to face the winner, but he understands that fight will not happen. . .at least for now."

yeah when I heard that and when he said lets unify the titles I was like wtf, he just won the belt and is already calling these guys outs. GSP would destroy him in 1 round.

IMO I think Fitch could possibly beat him. Some people dont give fitch enough credit.

[Evan]

Sounds more like a contract ploy than anything. No way did EXC want him to mention them.

[ATRAIN]

IMO I think Fitch could possibly beat him. Some people dont give fitch enough credit.

Beat who GSP?? It might be a good 2nd rounder but I dont think anyone in the WW class can beat GSP right now. He is riding high and is training harder than ever. He doesnt want another title defense repeat like he did with Sera.


Sounds more like a contract ploy than anything. No way did EXC want him to mention them.

Yeah I was thinking, man the company might be really pissed at him for that. They do throw out the UFC name a lot though (like on ring intros), I wonder if its just to show the fans and new fans that they have a lot of former UFC fighters?

[djohn14]

Beat who GSP?? It might be a good 2nd rounder but I dont think anyone in the WW class can beat GSP right now. He is riding high and is training harder than ever. He doesnt want another title defense repeat like he did with Sera.





No, Shields.

[ATRAIN]

No, Shields.

lol oh ok my bad. Yeah I dont think much of Shields so I think you are right.

[Evan]

Yeah I was thinking, man the company might be really pissed at him for that. They do throw out the UFC name a lot though (like on ring intros), I wonder if its just to show the fans and new fans that they have a lot of former UFC fighters?



That’s very possible but a huge mistake IMO. The orgs need to make their own identity and quit sucking on the UFC t*t. They need to grow their own talent. Cast offs can only take you so far.

[ATRAIN]

That’s very possible but a huge mistake IMO. The orgs need to make their own identity and quit sucking on the UFC t*t. They need to grow their own talent. Cast offs can only take you so far.

Yeah if anything they are just proving that UFC is the big dog in the yard. As a MMA fan I do like having options. The crazy thing is that the UFC I first started watching 3 years ago is totally different. I think only Chuck is there from that era. Funny how fast these fighters either move on or quit/retire.

On a side note I just found out my cousin is training to be a MMA fighter. He is part of a Gracie camp in Chicago. Would be something if he makes it on lets say the Ultimate Fighter.

[Evan]

Yeah if anything they are just proving that UFC is the big dog in the yard. As a MMA fan I do like having options. The crazy thing is that the UFC I first started watching 3 years ago is totally different. I think only Chuck is there from that era. Funny how fast these fighters either move on or quit/retire.

On a side note I just found out my cousin is training to be a MMA fighter. He is part of a Gracie camp in Chicago. Would be something if he makes it on lets say the Ultimate Fighter.

If he does anything in a tournament make sure you upload it to youtube so we can see it.

[dallaskd]

So with Shaw leaving is it safe to say eliteXC will be dead after a few more cards. Same with Affliction? If so the UFC is going to be STACKED.

[Evan]

So with Shaw leaving is it safe to say eliteXC will be dead after a few more cards. Same with Affliction? If so the UFC is going to be STACKED.

pro elite death watch has officially begun

http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=PELE

Down from $15 a share

-31.43% Jul 28

[dallaskd]

pro elite death watch has officially begun

http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=PELE

Down from $15 a share

-31.43% Jul 28

what does this mean for the UFC?

[Evan]

I love the UFC countless times over more than any other league but the thought of their just being 1 big mma org for too long is depressing. So many orgs are failing and losing money its not good for growth.

Supposedly even DREAM has really bad ratings now.

[ATRAIN]

I love the UFC countless times over more than any other league but the thought of their just being 1 big mma org for too long is depressing. So many orgs are failing and losing money its not good for growth.

Supposedly even DREAM has really bad ratings now.

Yeah I don't want that either, hopefully one of the many will survive to give UFC competition.

[Evan]

what does this mean for the UFC?

By no means am I a money man

But I think it means unless something big happens and they get flushed with some investors sorta soon the UFC picks through the ashes sometime in early 09 and we see Kimbo Vs TBA in February on PPV in the octagon.

I had no clue it was even a publically traded company until today.

[ATRAIN]

If he does anything in a tournament make sure you upload it to youtube so we can see it.

Ok I will, I havent talked to him but ill call him and get him to record any of his fights.

[dallaskd]

wow i dont want to see everyone die out but if dream, proelite, and affliction all die out. (and not to mention the ifl which just did) The UFC's roster would be amazing. i want the ufc to continue to grow but there needs to be some US competition, because some of the jap fighters will always be jap fighters.

[Evan]

wow i dont want to see everyone die out but if dream, proelite, and affliction all die out. (and not to mention the ifl which just did) The UFC's roster would be amazing. i want the ufc to continue to grow but there needs to be some US competition, because some of the jap fighters will always be jap fighters.

God knows what would happen affliciton and exc went under.

[ATRAIN]

God knows what would happen affliciton and exc went under.


Maybe they should merge!! They can put Kimbo up against some real HW talent (so he can get squashed hahaha)!!

[djohn14]

Maybe they should merge!! They can put Kimbo up against some real HW talent (so he can get squashed hahaha)!!

That would be the smart thing to do. Merge the talent and the payroll. Like I said that would be the smart thing to do, so it wont happen.

[ATRAIN]

That would be the smart thing to do. Merge the talent and the payroll. Like I said that would be the smart thing to do, so it wont happen.

Man can you imagine if it did!! Affliction would have a primetime deal with CBS and showtime as well and they would be just as big as UFC overnight with their talent alone. The only title AFF has is the hw so have Fedor destroy bigfoot in their main even fight. I dont know about you guys but I really like Elite XC because of the female mma fights. They haven't disappointed yet.

[Evan]

Two companies merging is a mutually beneficial action, and in this case the UFC gains nothing from that. Their in the dominate pisition and they can dictate how they absorb the company/contracts…..Should it come to that.

[Evan]

This past Saturday's "EliteXC: Unfinished Business" event in Stockton, Calif. -- the second EliteXC event to air on network TV via CBS -- had a large and energetic crowd of spectators.

But few of them -- less than 33 percent in all -- paid to be there at the Stockton Arena.

Of the 8,541 tickets the organization printed for the event, just 2,871 were sold. A total of 3,701 were given away, and 2,023 "deadwood" tickets went unused, according to paperwork the California State Athletic Commission today sent to MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com).

This past Saturday's event drew a live gate of just $268,715. A total of $340,960 in tickets were comp'd, and $206,155 worth of tickets went unsold.

Needless to say, the numbers are hugely disappointing.

"Unfinished Business" also turned out to be a ratings bust; after peaking with more than 6.5 million viewers for its network-TV debut in May, this past Saturday's ratings slipped by more than 40 percent. A simultaneous Spike TV replay of UFC 84 -- an event two months' old -- actually drew more viewers (433,000 to 341,000) in the covered "males 18-34" demographic, though EliteXC scored a slightly higher overall rating.

Despite the live gate and ratings disappointments, the event was lauded for improved production values and better pacing. The night's CBS card (and preceding Showtime card) featured solid match-ups and good fights, though without superstars Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson and Gina Carano competing -- and with less advertising on CBS airwaves -- the show failed to generate the type of buzz that accompanied May's CBS debut.

EliteXC returns to CBS airwaves on Oct. 4 live from the 20,000-seat BankAtlantic Center near Fort Lauderdale, Fla.

[djohn14]

Wow. Thats bad lol. Im sure the next will be a lot better with Kimbo and them being in his "backyard" to go along with the nice event that took place Saturday, but Dana White must be laughing his a$$ off right now.

[sa_butta]

There were some good fights on the card. And if you are a real MMA fan, then you probably enjoy this card. But for the casual fans, it really lacked the big names to get more viewers attention.

[Evan]

There were some good fights on the card. And if you are a real MMA fan, then you probably enjoy this card. But for the casual fans, it really lacked the big names to get more viewers attention.

Perfect summary!

Small orgs for the die hards thrive on the likes of hdnet, not networks.

[djohn14]

The following information was released to 411Mania courtesy of the California State Athletic Commission:


Jeremy Freitag - $2,500
Anthony Ruiz - $5,001 ($2,001 to show / $3,000 win bonus)
David Douglas - $4,000 ($2,500 to show / $1,500 win bonus)
Marlon Mathias - $2,500
Brandon Tarn - $2,000
Drew Montgomery - $3,000 ($1,500 to show / $1,500 win bonus)
Mike Cook - $2,000
Carl Seumanutafa - $4,000 ($2000 to show / $2,000 win bonus)
Wilson Reis - $5,000 ($2,500 to show / $2,500 win bonus)
Bryan Caraway - $2,000
Rafael Feijao - $20,000 ($10,000 to show / $10,000 win bonus)
Travis Galbraith - $5,000
Shayna Baszler - $8,000
Cristiane Cyborg - $6,000 ($3,000 to show / $3,000 win bonus)
Nick Diaz - $60,000
Thomas Denny - $8,500
Nick Thompson - $25,000
Jake Shields - $45,000 ($35,000 to show / $10,000 win bonus)
Antonio Silva - $200,000 ($100,000 to show / $100,000 win bonus)
Justin Eilers - $20,000
Scott Smith - $14,000
Robbie Lawler - $90,000 ($45,000 to show / $45,000 win bonus)