Is Ricky Davis our Saviour?!?

[pad300]

I really hope not, but it might just have to be...I will say that I would rather have him than Finley. Yes, Finley's a much better locker room guy and all-around citizen, but we need talent.

Apparently Mr. Davis wants to rehab his career


Ricky Davis is still on the market, and while he could help, he is probably looking for a team where he could be a starter and revitalize his career.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/39027-walter-herrmann-could-still-be-an-option-for-the-detroit-pistons

Apparently there is no money for middle class FA's out there,
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9545

Yes, it's hoopsworld, but they have a point. With Ricky's rep around the league, he's not going to get paid. He might as well try to win a ring while rehabbing his rep a bit. If he wants to be a starter, the only guy he really has to beat out is Mason.
He's got a decent shot at it, just because of defensive matchups. Mason's only 6'5", Manu's 6'6", Hill is 6'2", Tony is 6'2", Udoka is 6'5". The only guy who really has a shot against bigger Wings (SF's & SG's ) is Bowen at 6'7". Ricky Davis is also 6'7", and is slightly thicker than Bowen.

[ducks]

no it is called the big three

[jack sommerset]

This might be the Spurs only FA option. I would pass. The guy sucks.

[xtremesteven33]

we have our core BIG 3. we need role players. not guys who want to take 13+ shots a game.

nice try though

[JamStone]

He might be the most talented player among those free agents that can be had for the MLE or less. They guy really is a very good basketball player. But, he's a proven loser and he doesn't care about winning. As talented as he is, I'd hate to have him on a team I root for.

[ambchang]

He is the all-time leader at getting rebounds off shots at his own basket. I say sign him, along with JR Smith, Darius Miles, Stephon Marbury as well. I am also interested in the Spurs getting JR Rider and Latrell Spreewell out of retirement.

[Bartleby]

No, Davis is not the Spurs' savior, but you know who is . . .

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101490

[mrspurs]

well the talent is getting slimmer as the FA's and trades move along thats for sure, i still feel somewhere down the road, the spurs will have to make some changes in the SF and PF/C position to help get us back on that finals court, but its still early...i dont think we can win it all with the current roster we have...if anything pop, might squeeze a win here or there, but player wise, NO and LA are gonna be tougher to beat this coming season, which is around the corner....bruce lost a step, it was easily seen, someone best help that man...like timmy says the game flows thru bruce

[Kori Ellis]

If the Spurs aren't re-signing Finley (or getting someone better), then I don't mind Davis here. He's not very "Spur-like" but it's not very risky. If he f's up, you can just waive him.

[Bartleby]

bruce lost a step, it was easily seen, someone best help that man...like timmy says the game flows thru bruce

If the Spurs sign Davis it won't be because Bruce has lost a step. Their games couldn't be more different.

[rj215]

I'd love to see footage of Pops face everytime Ricky takes an off balance 3 while Timmy's open down low. Or when he dribbles the ball to death and tries a stupid pass to someone who's not looking.

Davis has all the talent in the world but he's a mental midget (like Beno, Elson, Devin Brown etc.) and Pop wouldn't stand for that very long.

[Solid D]

Ricky is a matador. Pass.

[Kori Ellis]

Ricky is a matador. Pass.

So is Finley. And if Ricky came here, he'd have to work his way out of being the 5th swingman.

Who do you propose they pick up on the cheap, if Finley isn't coming back?

[ChumpDumper]

I'd sign him.

Pickins is slim.

[Obstructed_View]

I'd sign him.

Pickins is slim.

Can he play defense?

http://www.patentlessons.com/slim%20pickens.jpg

[Kori Ellis]

Weeks ago when people were talking about him being a good pickup, I didn't like the idea. I thought he'd get decent money and I didn't think he'd be worth it. But now that Mason/Udoka are the 3rd and 4th wings, it doesn't really matter too much who the 5th guy is. Nobody who is available is going to really make an impact. They could go with defense and pick up QRoss, or go with offense with someone like Ricky.

Whatever happens, we need to hope Bruce doesn't start dropping off rapidly and Manu can stay healthy because the reserves aren't very good. Hopefully Mason can continue to improve and be worthy of a good number of minutes.

[ChumpDumper]

I wouldn't mind having that kind of x-factor on the team. Not reliable by any means, but spending a couple million on a guy who could give you anywhere from 2 to 30 points in a given night isn't the worst idea ever brought up here.

[weebo]

Davis wouldn't be such a bad idea for the money the Spurs have to offer. As Kori said, if he messes up you can show him the door. Unless people around here want
Finely back.

[weebo]

[QUOTE=Obstructed_View;2678330]Can he play defense?

Finely didn't.:downspin:

[Spurs Brazil]

R.Davis would be nice but I think Finley will be back

[pad300]

Weeks ago when people were talking about him being a good pickup, I didn't like the idea. I thought he'd get decent money and I didn't think he'd be worth it. But now that Mason/Udoka are the 3rd and 4th wings, it doesn't really matter too much who the 5th guy is. Nobody who is available is going to really make an impact. They could go with defense and pick up QRoss, or go with offense with someone like Ricky.

Whatever happens, we need to hope Bruce doesn't start dropping off rapidly and Manu can stay healthy because the reserves aren't very good. Hopefully Mason can continue to improve and be worthy of a good number of minutes.

Actually, the reason I propose him is because he could make an impact. He's always had the talent, and when his heads in the games, he's decent. I strongly think he could give Mason some competition for our starting SG spot (assuming of course that we keep using Manu as a supersub). Combine that with the possibility that he would come cheap, and I almost think the FO has to take the gamble.

IF the FO had kept Barry and Finley had gone to the rockets, I'd be much less concerned; Barry is much better offensively than Finley at this stage. Barry has repeatedly shown the ability to hold the starting SG slot effectively. He's only ever lost it due to injury... As it is, I think we need offensive production from the SG slot, and Davis for the LLE (or the remainder of the MLE) would be an effective method of doing just that.

[nil.ball]

Sprewell is looking for job too. :toast

[Kori Ellis]

Actually, the reason I propose him is because he could make an impact.

For a million or two, it's worth seeing if he will. I don't think he'd ever be consistent enough to be an impact player, but some nights he could give a needed scoring boost.

[K-State Spur]

He's better than most options left out there.

But my guess is that he would rather play on a crappy team where he can chuck up 20 shots/night.

[SenorSpur]

I'd rather have him over Finley - and I'm not particularly real fond of Davis in the first place. Personally, I'm sooooo done with Finley.

[tp2021]

sign him and show finley the door.
dont let it hit ya where the good lord split ya.

[Solid D]

With Finley and Barry and a smaller front line, the Spurs have been allowing .445+ FG% the past 2 seasons. They were able to cover that up in 2006-07 but not in 2008, especially with Manu hurting.

I wanted to see the Spurs shore up their D a bit...but since Posey is gone and Barnes is too, now...I'd prefer the Spurs try to make sure they bring in Kurt Thomas and then get a cheaper player like Kasib Powell. Powell isn't any better defensively but he can give them scoring and he's cheaper. Javtokas is running in a background job processing in the recesses of my brain. Is he committed this year yet (Dynamo?)? If available, he would be my next move if Thomas signs elsewhere.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Weeks ago when people were talking about him being a good pickup, I didn't like the idea. I thought he'd get decent money and I didn't think he'd be worth it. But now that Mason/Udoka are the 3rd and 4th wings, it doesn't really matter too much who the 5th guy is. Nobody who is available is going to really make an impact. They could go with defense and pick up QRoss, or go with offense with someone like Ricky.

Whatever happens, we need to hope Bruce doesn't start dropping off rapidly and Manu can stay healthy because the reserves aren't very good. Hopefully Mason can continue to improve and be worthy of a good number of minutes.

We've got enough defensive specialists. Grab the best guy left at putting the ball in the hoop, which at this point means Davis should be at or near the top of the list.

[Bruno]

I like the idea of Ricky Davis. In Spurs case, I take the talented player over the good guy.
I take Davis over Finley but I'm not Spurs FO and it seems likely that Spurs will re-sign Finley.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I like the idea of Ricky Davis. In Spurs case, I take the talented player over the good guy.
I take Davis over Finley but I'm not Spurs FO and it seems likely that Spurs will re-sign Finley.

I agree with you, sadly. It's looking more and more like we sign Finley.

It's ridiculous to think that they have embraced a youth movement of sorts with their role players yet decide to keep the slowest, most one dimensional perimeter player out of their veterans.

Pop needs to get over the fact that Finley came for cheap a couple of years back.

[Solid D]

The Spurs frequently take slightly less talented guys who are solid people willing to play unselfishly within a system. I'm not sure Ricky Davis fits that bill.

[spursnatic]

I really hope not, but it might just have to be...I will say that I would rather have him than Finley. Yes, Finley's a much better locker room guy and all-around citizen, but we need talent.

Apparently Mr. Davis wants to rehab his career


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/39027-walter-herrmann-could-still-be-an-option-for-the-detroit-pistons

Apparently there is no money for middle class FA's out there,
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9545

Yes, it's hoopsworld, but they have a point. With Ricky's rep around the league, he's not going to get paid. He might as well try to win a ring while rehabbing his rep a bit. If he wants to be a starter, the only guy he really has to beat out is Mason.
He's got a decent shot at it, just because of defensive matchups. Mason's only 6'5", Manu's 6'6", Hill is 6'2", Tony is 6'2", Udoka is 6'5". The only guy who really has a shot against bigger Wings (SF's & SG's ) is Bowen at 6'7". Ricky Davis is also 6'7", and is slightly thicker than Bowen. I would rather have both to be honest with you! I don't know what the fuck everyone has against Finley? Maybe it's because he is an ex Maverick? But who cares, he has really helped this team throughout the last few years. And all anyone ever does is bash him. Yes, sometimes he goes through slumps, but so does Ginobili, Parker etc. So come on guys let's give him some credit. He has averaged over 10 pts. per game and that's on top of having to split time with Ginobili and Bowen. And you never see him bitch about it either or say he wants to be traded or any of that? So that means he is 4th in scoring on the whole team. And which he has the potential to be even higher, but he is a team player. Yes his better years are a little behind him, but trust me? He still has what it takes to help us get over the top!!:flag::lobt2:

[Solid D]

RC Buford said during the game yesterday that Brent Barry and Robert Horry won't be back but he didn't say, Mike Finley won't be back. If the Spurs sign Finley, which is likely, then I would like to see them sign a defensive-minded Big. The defense just seems to get stingier when the Spurs can get that extra shot inhibiter in there.

I went back and checked and saw that in the past 30 days, Kasib Powell was given a qualifying offer by the Heat making him a RFA. If the Fin thing did fall through, he would be more trouble to sign than I thought.

[tp2021]

I would rather have both to be honest with you! I don't know what the fuck everyone has against Finley? Maybe it's because he is an ex Maverick? But who cares, he has really helped this team throughout the last few years. And all anyone ever does is bash him. Yes, sometimes he goes through slumps, but so does Ginobili, Parker etc. So come on guys let's give him some credit. He has averaged over 10 pts. per game and that's on top of having to split time with Ginobili and Bowen. And you never see him bitch about it either or say he wants to be traded or any of that? So that means he is 4th in scoring on the whole team. And which he has the potential to be even higher, but he is a team player. Yes his better years are a little behind him, but trust me? He still has what it takes to help us get over the top!!:flag::lobt2:

You must be new to this board. Welcome.

[MarHill]

Ricky Davis our savior...NO I don't think so!!!!

The Spurs should definitely pass on this guy. Yes, he has talent. Just because you have talent doesn't mean you take him and I know he would not fit with this team.

Also, I know everybody is bagging on Finley. But, I definitely rather have him than Davis.

Chemistry is just as important as talent and Finley fits well with this team.

Finley has made some big shots for this team (Game 1 of Spurs-Suns this year, Spurs-Knicks game this season at MSG, Spurs-Lakers of '07 regular season, Spurs-Nuggets Game 5 of 1st Round '07 playoff series).

Yes, he's been inconsistent but I would take him over Davis any day of the week.

[Steve-O-Matic]

Chemistry is just as important as talent

Not when the player no longer possesses any talent. Finley is toast. Bringing him back would be tantamount to bringing Sean Elliott out of retirement in the name of "chemistry."

[Spurtacus]

I thought Pop had been quoted saying he wants Finley back.

[MarHill]

Not when the player no longer possesses any talent. Finley is toast. Bringing him back would be tantamount to bringing Sean Elliott out of retirement in the name of "chemistry."


Finley doesn't have any talent?

What Spurs games have you been watching the last three years? The man can still hit big shots! I just listed several games in my last post where he hit shots at crucial points in important games.

Yes, he sucks on defense.

But I rather have him than Ricky Davis!!! When did Ricky Davis ever hit a big shot???????:lol

[Spurtacus]

Finley doesn't have any talent?

What Spurs games have you been watching the last three years? The man can still hit big shots! I just listed several games in my last post where he hit shots at crucial points in important games.

Yes, he sucks on defense.

But I rather have him than Ricky Davis!!! When did Ricky Davis ever hit a big shot???????:lol

41% shooting from a guy who gets open looks half the time? Not saying I want Davis but I would like someone who can shoot better than 41% and not be a defensive liability. Hopefully Roger Mason will step into that starting role that was held by Finley.

[Steve-O-Matic]

Finley doesn't have any talent?

What Spurs games have you been watching? The man can still hit big shots! I just listed several games in my last post where he hit shots in crucial points in important games.

Yes, he sucks on defense.

But I rather have him than Ricky Davis!!! When did Ricky Davis ever hit a big shot???????:lol

Finley shot 41% from the field and 37% on 3's - horrible percentages when your one remaining attribute is supposedly your ability as a spot-up-only shooter. Even Roger Mason shot better than that last season. Finley's production, per-minute averages, and shooting percentages have declined every year, and now he's a year older and a year slower, and every other facet of his game is horrendous. He's about as mobile as Fred Sanford and the Spurs are NOT a better team when he's on the floor. If you think that trend is going to suddenly reverse itself, you're either in complete denial or mildly retarded.

[Marcus Bryant]

Not the prototypical Spur, but he did shoot 40.1% on 643 3pt FG attempts over the last two seasons. Considering he did that last year with Shaq playing in less than half of the games he played in last season (Davis didn't miss a game and averaged 36 minutes a night) that's not too bad. Only 28 years old. But he has played for 5 teams already in his NBA career.

[MarHill]

Finley shot 41% from the field and 37% on 3's - not very good when you're one remaining attribute is supposedly your ability as a spot-up shooter. Even Roger Mason shot better than that last season. Finley's production, per-minute averages, and shooting percentages have declined every year, and now he's a year older and a year slower. He's about as mobile as Fred Sanford and the Spurs are NOT a better team when he's on the floor. If you think that trend is going to suddenly reverse itself, you're either in complete denial or mildly retarded.


I'm not in denial or retarded. But...if you want to have a guy who has been a complete cancer on every team he has been..then take him!!!

I personally don't! Sorry!!

Yes, I know Finley is a year older and a year slower. I would rather take him on my team as 10th or 11th man who can still shots in important stretches of a game.

Ricky Davis is nothing but a ball-hog and selfish player. I would prefer a team-first guy over him...even if he's older and a little bit slower.

[The Franchise]

If Ricky Davis is anyones saviour there fucked.

[Steve-O-Matic]

Ricky Davis is nothing but a ball-hog and selfish player. I would prefer a team-first guy over him...even if he's older and a little bit slower.

Might want to check the facts first before throwing out the "ball-hog" accusations. Ricky Davis averaged FEWER shot attempts per/40 minutes last year than Finley (never mind the fact that he also converted them at a higher rate) and averaged MORE assists per/40 minutes than Finley (3.7 to 2.1). If Davis is a ball-hog then Finley must be a ball-elephant.

[Spurtacus]

Might want to check the facts first before throwing out the "ball-hog" accusations. Ricky Davis averaged FEWER shot attempts per/40 minutes last year than Finley (never mind the fact that he also converted them at a higher rate) and averaged MORE assists per/40 minutes than Finley (3.7 to 2.1). If Davis is a ball-hog then Finley must be a ball-elephant.

:lol

[AC#21_TD ERA]

At the start of the off season I said no chance in hell. But it can’t get any worse now so why not. If it fails then trade, waive him. This guy can play but he's selfish. But sometimes in order to continue to be successful you have to give talent a chance and take risks.

[Buddy Holly]

Davis > Finley

Let's be realistic.

[Steve-O-Matic]

This guy can play but he's selfish.

Again, I'd like to know what the measuring stick is for "selfishness" that you people are using. Davis' Assist Ratio last season was 18.1, which was substantially higher than that of Finley (a horrid 11.8), as well as both of our SF's - Bowen and Udoka (Davis' primary position is SF). Additionally, during the previous season, Davis' Assist Ratio of 21.3 ranked him 6th among all SF's in the entire NBA. For his career, Davis has averaged 4.5 assists per/40 minutes. Finley has averaged 3.6. Davis has also averaged fewer shot attempts per minute over his career than Finley, despite having a higher overall shooting percentage. If all of that makes Davis "selfish," so be it, because I'll take that from one of my backup swingmen any day of the week.

[angelbelow]

if he wants to come for the LLE why the fuck not.

[Obstructed_View]

Finely didn't.:downspin:

Look at the picture again, go back to the post I was quoting and re-read it.

[AC#21_TD ERA]

Again, I'd like to know what the measuring stick is for "selfishness" that you people are using. Davis' Assist Ratio last season was 18.1, which was substantially higher than that of Finley (a horrid 11.8), as well as both of our SF's - Bowen and Udoka (Davis' primary position is SF). Additionally, during the previous season, Davis' Assist Ratio of 21.3 ranked him 6th among all SF's in the entire NBA. For his career, Davis has averaged 4.5 assists per/40 minutes. Finley has averaged 3.6. Davis has also averaged fewer shot attempts per minute over his career than Finley, despite having a higher overall shooting percentage. If all of that makes Davis "selfish," so be it, because I'll take that from one of my backup swingmen any day of the week.

Ricky Davis never hates a bucket that he makes. He would rather score than win. The reason he’s been on so many teams is because of his selfishness and not doing the team like ignoring the play that was called from the sideline and doing his own thing instead. But he's a risk and at this stage ill be willing to take that risk. Who knows he could mature in our system and could turn out to be that scorer we desperately need. IT'S TIME WE TOOK A RISK!

[Obstructed_View]

The Spurs could use a reclamation project, and Davis could use a chance to salvage his image. Might be a good fit. They certainly have nothing to lose.

[anakha]

Ricky Davis never hates a bucket that he makes. He would rather score than win. The reason he’s been on so many teams is because of his selfishness and not doing the team like ignoring the play that was called from the sideline and doing his own thing instead. But he's a risk and at this stage ill be willing to take that risk. Who knows he could mature in our system and could turn out to be that scorer we desperately need. IT'S TIME WE TOOK A RISK!

Ricky Davis or Get the Fork out?

:lmao

[Steve-O-Matic]

And as for this comment...

But...if you want to have a guy who has been a complete cancer on every team he has been..then take him!!!.
....even the beat writers for one of his former teams disagree...


"RICKY DAVIS (HEAT) - The 28-year-old Davis has behaved himself over the last few years, and would be a nice addition to a team that needs scoring. The 6-7 Davis played in all 82 regular-season games for Miami, and averaged 13.8 points, 4.3 rebounds and 3.4 assists. If Davis wants to take less money to play for a winner, there will be a lot of clubs bidding for his services. Dallas, Houston, New Orleans and Toronto may all be interested in the Iowa product."

http://www.nesn.com/content/celtics/story.aspx?content_id=4b925f2c-8716-4015-96a4-3cc9730c86a7

[AC#21_TD ERA]

Ricky Davis or Get the Fork out?

:lmao

IM GOING TO GET THE FORK OUT OF THE SPURS AND STICK IT IN YOUR FUKIN HEAD. NOW THAT WILL BE A RISK BUT YOU KNOW WHAT IT WILL BE WORTH IT WHEN IT'S ALL SET AND DONE. YOU FUKIN CLOWN!

[Please_dont_ban_me]

As a 4th option? Why not.

Ricky Davis > Michael Finley

[Buddy Holly]

Manu/Mason/Davis >> Finley/Manu/Barry

[anakha]

IM GOING TO GET THE FORK OUT OF THE SPURS AND STICK IT IN YOUR FUKIN HEAD. NOW THAT WILL BE A RISK BUT YOU KNOW WHAT IT WILL BE WORTH IT WHEN IT'S ALL SET AND DONE. YOU FUKIN CLOWN!

You said exactly the same thing about JR Smith.

Next thing we know, it'll be 'Latrell Sprewell or Get the Fork Out!' :lol

[Streakyshooter08]

Well, the only problem I see with him is money. I doubt he would come here for the LLE.

He would be the scorer the Spurs need but it is very unlikely.

[Spurblood]

Let him stay where he is he kinda has that cancer with him because in each team he has been on makes them bad

[MarHill]

And as for this comment...

....even the beat writers for one of his former teams disagree...


"RICKY DAVIS (HEAT) - The 28-year-old Davis has behaved himself over the last few years, and would be a nice addition to a team that needs scoring. The 6-7 Davis played in all 82 regular-season games for Miami, and averaged 13.8 points, 4.3 rebounds and 3.4 assists. If Davis wants to take less money to play for a winner, there will be a lot of clubs bidding for his services. Dallas, Houston, New Orleans and Toronto may all be interested in the Iowa product."

http://www.nesn.com/content/celtics/story.aspx?content_id=4b925f2c-8716-4015-96a4-3cc9730c86a7

Obviously you want Davis over Finley! I don't!

Also, check with his former teams: Minnesota & Boston about being a cancer in the locker room.

Moreover, you came up with a statistical point that Davis is less of a ball-hog than Finley (ball-elephant in your words).

You...know the argument doesn't hold water. Because, Coach Pop has encouraged Finley to shot the ball when he has the open look in order to stretch the defense. So yes..he has taken more shots than Davis. However, if the coach tells you shoot...then you shoot the ball.

He has been inconsistent..yes! But you still haven't acknowledge the fact that Finley has hit some big shots in the three years he's been a Spur.

Again, the Spurs-Suns 1st round playoff series of this year, the Spurs-Nuggets 1st Playoff Series-Game 5 in '07, The Spurs-Knicks game this year at the MSG where he hit the shot to go into overtime ( a game the Spurs had no business winning), and The Spurs-Lakers '07 regular season in LA...when he hit the game winner.

Ricky Davis has never done anything like that in his career. The fact he would miss a shot on purpose at the end of game to pad his stats...says a lot about him.

I'm sorry! For a 10th or 11th man ( that's what Finley would be) coming off the bench at this point in his career, I would rather someone who is a solid professional and fits well with the team. Not someone....who does have talent but he's been selfish with most of the five teams he's been on in his career and would be unknown to the guys in the locker room.

It's like you want to date some woman because she's beautiful...but she has already divorced her third husband and has a selfish and narcissistic personality. Well, she is still beautiful...so I'll give her a try.

The same thing with talent. People can be so blinded by talent. But, does this person with talent fit your organization? If that person doesn't fit (no matter how talented) you move on!!!!
:toast

[ambchang]

Just because there is a roster spot doesn't mean that we have to fill it up with the most talented guy on the market.

The reason the Spurs were so successful the last few years is not because of talent alone, it's with fitting the right pieces around the centre talent that the team has. The team already has talent, and they are the big 3, players come in to compliment them, not take shots away from them.

Ricky Davis has never been known to be a guy who creates shots in the offensive flow. In other words, he takes shots from his teammates, which is a net zero if he makes the shot, but a negative when he misses it. He also gambles on “defense” and plays out of sync of the rest of team. Basically, he is a role player who wants to act as the lead on a playground team.

The Spurs had trouble scoring last year because Ginobili was injured. The Spurs offense is quite stagnant, and Ginobili is the person who puts in that extra unpredictability. If Manu was healthy, the Spurs would have been in much better shape offensively, but if Manu is injured, the Spurs cannot compete for a championship because so much offense is lost, Ricky Davis or not. Blaming the team’s success and failure on a role player like Finley is erroneous as his role on the team is essentially taking wide open shots, keep the lane relatively open for the big 3, and act as a locker room glue guy. Ricky Davis cannot fill that role.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

IM GOING TO GET THE FORK OUT OF THE SPURS AND STICK IT IN YOUR FUKIN HEAD. NOW THAT WILL BE A RISK BUT YOU KNOW WHAT IT WILL BE WORTH IT WHEN IT'S ALL SET AND DONE. YOU FUKIN CLOWN!


Fag.

[spursjustice]

I don't mind, if it's for the minimum. Apart from the big 3, we don't have that 4th scoring option. After watching the Spurs struggle to score during certain stretches of some games last season, it's definitely something that needs to be address. RD isn't great on D, but he's not bad either. His personality is the issue. The best case scenario is he plays within the team, works hard, does some community work and comes off the bench with Manu. The worst case scenario is if he doesn't play within the team and is a cancer in the locker room in which case Pop will unleash his inner beast on him. We can waive him in this case.

[Manu-of-steel]

i don't think he'll be a savior. he had misgivings before, but there are indications that he's trying to steer his ship into the right direction. plus, davis can't be a cancer inside a locker room with tim, manu, and tony, and cia pop. if it's for the minimum, davis is a no-brainer. i'll try to see what happens. if he doesn't fit, then we can wauve him. but if he brings instant offense and an average defense, we've got a step towards getting that 5th ring.

[AFBlue]

No indications I've seen that the Spurs have interest in the guy...means I sincerly doubt it's going to happen.

Finley is a much surer bet to be back with the Spurs, though they may decide to go younger with someone like Brown or Evans.

[AC#21_TD ERA]

Ey Mr Bottom Tooth, do me a fukin favour and just barrack for one team you fukin bandwagon clown. You have a new favourite team every week and i dont give a shit if your changing it for the sake of it. Your a fukin cocky cunt thats going to get smacked one day. When that happens change your name to Mr I got my teeth punched out. :lmao

[anakha]

Ey Mr Bottom Tooth, do me a fukin favour and just barrack for one team you fukin bandwagon clown. You have a new favourite team every week and i dont give a shit if your changing it for the sake of it. Your a fukin cocky cunt thats going to get smacked one day. When that happens change your name to Mr I got my teeth punched out. :lmao

What a clueless moron. :lmao

[DROB4EVER]

We need a fourth scorer and Pops and Tim could keep him in line. He is said to be looking to rebiuld his rep with a top western team. Dont know if thats us but if he is willing to take the LLE and fall in line pick him up. Parker Manu Davis Duncan and Ian. Not a bad line up when we need to score.

We would have speed on the wings, shooting, scoring at all 5 spots.

[VaSpursFan]

two words...hell no. i doubt if this guy is even on the Spurs radar.

[T Park]

Ey Mr Bottom Tooth, do me a fukin favour and just barrack for one team you fukin bandwagon clown. You have a new favourite team every week and i dont give a shit if your changing it for the sake of it. Your a fukin cocky cunt thats going to get smacked one day. When that happens change your name to Mr I got my teeth punched out. :lmao

Rage much?

[remingtonbo2001]

Rage much?

:lol

AC#21 = Tacker

[SPURSGOAT]

Ricky Davis is not our Savior.... James Gist is

http://diggsplace.com/Spurs/the-savior.jpg

[T Park]

:lol

AC#21 = Tacker

Dude, I've been waiting to use that for so long since I read that :lol

[Sissiborgo]

Without a doubt Ricky Davis is not a good player and he has showed us that!

[SenorSpur]

Might want to check the facts first before throwing out the "ball-hog" accusations. Ricky Davis averaged FEWER shot attempts per/40 minutes last year than Finley (never mind the fact that he also converted them at a higher rate) and averaged MORE assists per/40 minutes than Finley (3.7 to 2.1). If Davis is a ball-hog then Finley must be a ball-elephant.

:lol

Besides all that, this Spurs team went through horrific scoring droughts with Finley as the starting 2-guard. I'm not totally blaming him, but is you factor in his declining skills, inconsistent shooting and poor defense and he certainly is culpable. He's counter productive at this point and I don't want this guy back on the roster - under any circumstances.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Davis is in talks with Olympiacos. They is offering him the number of $7 millions US dollars in the after taxes amount for each season for 3 years. He has not decide yet.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Ey Mr Bottom Tooth, do me a fukin favour and just barrack for one team you fukin bandwagon clown. You have a new favourite team every week and i dont give a shit if your changing it for the sake of it. Your a fukin cocky cunt thats going to get smacked one day. When that happens change your name to Mr I got my teeth punched out. :lmao

Get a life. :lmao
Go start another thread about Garbage Truck Vaughn that's just gonna waste a minute of our life because you're nothing but an annoying piece of shit member. :lmao

[clubalien]

Ricky Davis should go to another league and collect big bucks there if no one wants him in NBA.

Finely = Steve smith 2.0

[Obstructed_View]

The speculation hardly matters at this point; it's quite clear that if Davis were on the Spurs' radar, he'd probably be on the team by now.

[Spurs Brazil]

Clippers Sign Ricky Davis


Jul 28, 2008 6:51 PM EST
The Los Angeles Clippers today signed veteran free agent swingman Ricky Davis to a multi-year contract, it was announced by Vice President of Basketball Operations Elgin Baylor. Per team policy, terms of the deal were not announced. Carrying career averages of 14.3 points, 3.7 rebounds, 3.5 assists and 31.1 minutes, Davis tallied 13.8 points, 4.3 rebounds and 3.4 assists in 82 games played for the Miami Heat during the 2007-08 season. The 6-foot-7-inch Iowa product also connected on 420-971 FG (.433), 135-333 3FG (.405) and 155-197 FT (.787) on the year. “We believe he will be a good addition,” Clippers Vice President of Basketball Operations Elgin Baylor said. “His versatility and ability to shoot from the outside will spread the floor and help our low post players.”


http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/53780/20080728/clippers_sign_ricky_davis/

[Bruno]

Davis is a talented player and I'm quite sure a winning environment would have put his career back on the right track.

I doubt that Clippers will be that team.

[Solid D]

http://static.flickr.com/54/150599120_6a482af1e7_m.jpg

[K-State Spur]

Davis is a talented player and I'm quite sure a winning environment would have put his career back on the right track.

I doubt that Clippers will be that team.

I'm don't think you can assume that he would thrive in a winning environment.

I've always seen him as a guy who values getting his shots over helping the team win.

His numbers have always been much better than his actual play IMHO.

[NBA Junkie]

Spurs fans are breathing a big sigh of relief!

I know I am :downspin:

[jay014]

Would've helped especially when the Spurs go on a 8 minute drought without a field goal.

[NewJerSpur]

Simply put: No.

[Spurs Brazil]

Sources told ESPN.com's Chad Ford that the deal was for two years, $4.7 million with an opt out clause for Davis after his first year.

[anakha]

Well, there goes another guy on AC#21_TD ERA's wish list. :lol

[BOHOLANO#21]

I really hope not, but it might just have to be...I will say that I would rather have him than Finley. Yes, Finley's a much better locker room guy and all-around citizen, but we need talent.

Apparently Mr. Davis wants to rehab his career


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/39027-walter-herrmann-could-still-be-an-option-for-the-detroit-pistons

Apparently there is no money for middle class FA's out there,
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9545

Yes, it's hoopsworld, but they have a point. With Ricky's rep around the league, he's not going to get paid. He might as well try to win a ring while rehabbing his rep a bit. If he wants to be a starter, the only guy he really has to beat out is Mason.
He's got a decent shot at it, just because of defensive matchups. Mason's only 6'5", Manu's 6'6", Hill is 6'2", Tony is 6'2", Udoka is 6'5". The only guy who really has a shot against bigger Wings (SF's & SG's ) is Bowen at 6'7". Ricky Davis is also 6'7", and is slightly thicker than Bowen.
please pass the ball, mr. buckets.:bang

[NewJerSpur]

So the Davis brothers reunited after all these years huh? Should at least make the Clippers an entertaining team to watch.

[The Truth #6]

Pop has said before that the team can handle one bad apple. I would have thought this would be the Summer to get that sort of score first wing player because we will need points for good stretches during the season. I really don't care if they're ball hogs. In fact it might make it better. Their one dimensionality could work to our advantage. We have to rest the Big 3 to win a title this year. Someone's going to have to take over at certain points in the game.

If we don't get such a player, and it looks like 99% that we won't, then our defense has to be able to clamp down to weather the existential scoring droughts.

[pad300]

Sources told ESPN.com's Chad Ford that the deal was for two years, $4.7 million with an opt out clause for Davis after his first year.

Yep, just slightly more than the LLE. I don't think we tried for Ricky Davis. Between no state income tax and the opportunity to take a Ring shot, I think we could have had him.

I really hope Finley is not on the 15 man roster come October. I'd rather try a rookie rather than another year of his inconsistent shooting and doing nothing else on the court...

[K-State Spur]

Their one dimensionality could work to our advantage. We have to rest the Big 3 to win a title this year. Someone's going to have to take over at certain points in the game.


We're still fine with the big 3 being the guys to take over the game (assuming that they are healthy. and honestly, if manu's banged up again, the Spurs aren't winning it - Davis or no Davis). Just need the role players to knock down the open shots that they are given.

Davis' one dimensionality could take away from everything else that the team is trying to do.

There's a reason that the guy has only played in 11 playoff games in 10 years.

[Sissiborgo]

True hes not the guy for spurs! hell no! NWA

[LakerLanny]

I am the savior of this message board.

[DPG21920]

I can not wait for next season. The NBA is going to look so different and League Pass is going to be extra worth it this time!