Obama: Ethnic cleansing reduced violence

[DarrinS]

Terry Moran asked ”if the country had pursued your policy of withdrawing in the face of this horrific violence, what do you think Iraq would look like now?”

Obama said it would be hard to speculate. “The Sunnis might have made the same decisions at that time. The Shii’as might have made some similar decisions based on political calculation. There was ethnic cleansing in Baghdad that actually took the violence level down,” he said.



WTF?

[Anti.Hero]

He's learning on the job. Give him a break.

[boutons_]

If all y'all would pull your heads out of your asses, you would have read from many sources months ago that the Shiites' ethnic cleaning the Sunnis either out of Bagdad on into ethnically Balkanized, wall-off/check-pointed Badgad neighborhoods, which was completed last summer, plus Petraeus buying peace from the Sunnis, $24M/month for 80,000 Sunni fighters, were major reasons for the dropoff in violence last summer.

The violence was already decreasing in Dec 2006, 2 months before the surge started.

Petraeus also switched from extremely aggressive, door-kicking tactics last spring (a record number of US military deaths in 2007) because he was losing too many men. Petraeus' aggression got lots of pushback from the Iraqis. Huge mistake by Petraeus.

While ankle-biter McFlop trashes and cheap-shots HUSSEIN every other sentence before friendly audiences, HUSSEIN, on the world stage, was VERY restrained in his M/E speeches vs what he could have said about dubya/McSenile M/E policy, not that classlessness by McFlop would bother any right wingers.

It's a very complicated situation, but the WH/McSenile propaganda about the escalation, exclusivley, working or "winning" is of course outright, simplistic lying by denying the above factors.

[FromWayDowntown]

Hey, did you all hear that Barack Obama supports ethnic cleansing!?!?!

So typical of those who have the name Hussein in thier names, when you think about it.

[Spurminator]

Holy crap, he's in favor of ethnic cleansing! How can white people trust him now? He's coming after us!

[FromWayDowntown]

I'm sure he's talked about Saddam Hussein's use of mustard gas before, as well.

I'm certain that most of the state of North Dakota should be living in fear should Obama be elected.

[T Park]

What do you expect from a guy that thinks there is 58 states.

[ChumpDumper]

Ethnic cleansing reduced violenceAnd?

[boutons_]

so the bubbas are denying that ethnic cleansing of Sunnis took place?

Where does HUSSEIN support ethnic cleansing?

[DarrinS]

What do you expect from a guy that thinks there is 58 states.


You're a dumbass. Everyone knows there's only 57 states.

[Gino]

so the bubbas are denying that ethnic cleansing of Sunnis took place?

Where does HUSSEIN support ethnic cleansing?

You know..Ive seen you call Obama "HUSSEIN" a million times to mock conservatives, yet the only time I've ever heard a conservative call him that was that guy that McCain threw under the bus months ago.

Likewise, youve thrown every name in the book at McCain.

I just don't enjoy reading your angry posts day in and day out.

We get it. You hate conservatives.

[ChumpDumper]

You know..Ive seen you call Obama "HUSSEIN" a million times to mock conservatives, yet the only time I've ever heard a conservative call him that was that guy that McCain threw under the bus months ago.Fox News does it for them now.

[boutons_]

There are people, even here in this forum, who will never vote for anybody for the sole his name is HUSSEIN.

There are people, even here in this forum, who will never vote for anybody for the sole reason that he's black.

There are people, even here in this forum, who will never vote for Hussein because they lie that he's Muslim.

Just a friendly, daily reminders of all the bad history and incredible weaknesses of McSenile.

Hate? Hard to love conservatives for all the disasters and havoc they've wreaked on the US and world since at least Jan 01.

[2centsworth]

Hey, did you all hear that Barack Obama supports ethnic cleansing!?!?!

So typical of those who have the name Hussein in thier names, when you think about it.

don't try to change the point the guy was making. Obama sounds clueless and is just making it up as he goes.

[ChumpDumper]

What Obama said is quite true.

What is the problem with saying what is true?

[FromWayDowntown]

don't try to change the point the guy was making. Obama sounds clueless and is just making it up as he goes.

Aside from the truth of his assertions, my effort isn't to change the point -- it's to predict what's coming.

[DarrinS]

Ethnic cleansing doesn't seem like reduced violence to those that are "cleansed".


Maybe just the result of far fewer people results in less violence?


I think we can all agree that the Holocaust reduced violence in Germany. The mass slaughtering of those pesky Tutsis by the Hutu reduced violence in Rwanda. Hopefully, the continued slughter in Darfur will continue, and if enough people are killed, by gosh they'll finally be at peace.

[2centsworth]

Aside from the truth of his assertions, my effort isn't to change the point -- it's to predict what's coming.

it's a very boutons like prediction. There will be an extreme faction of the right that will paint Obama in that light, keyword extreme.

[FromWayDowntown]

it's a very boutons like prediction. There will be an extreme faction of the right that will paint Obama in that light, keyword extreme.

Agreed, but it's the same sort of Coultergiest types who ridiculously insist upon calling the candidate Hussein and insinuating all that comes with it. My apologies, though, I didn't realize it was off-limits to poke fun at extremists in this forum.

I suppose that any insinuations about extremism among conservatives should be understood to apply to all conservatives, while insinuations of extremism among liberals are just nuanced criticisms of those who actually hold those views.

Yes, of course that's true . . . .

[ChumpDumper]

Ethnic cleansing doesn't seem like reduced violence to those that are "cleansed".


Maybe just the result of far fewer people results in less violence?


I think we can all agree that the Holocaust reduced violence in Germany. The mass slaughtering of those pesky Tutsis by the Hutu reduced violence in Rwanda. Hopefully, the continued slughter in Darfur will continue, and if enough people are killed, by gosh they'll finally be at peace.What exactly are you saying about Obama?

[Trainwreck2100]

I think we can all agree that the Holocaust reduced violence in Germany. The mass slaughtering of those pesky Tutsis by the Hutu reduced violence in Rwanda. Hopefully, the continued slughter in Darfur will continue, and if enough people are killed, by gosh they'll finally be at peace.

But they don't have oil so let them continue to do the shit they've been doing for generations.

[DarrinS]

What exactly are you saying about Obama?


It certainly wasn't a wise choice of words -- especially when and where he said them. He should be more careful.

[ChumpDumper]

It certainly wasn't a wise choice of words -- especially when and where he said them. He should be more careful.Why?

It's a simple declarative statement.

You should be more careful with your inferences.

[xrayzebra]

If all y'all would pull your heads out of your asses, you would have read from many sources months ago that the Shiites' ethnic cleaning the Sunnis either out of Bagdad on into ethnically Balkanized, wall-off/check-pointed Badgad neighborhoods, which was completed last summer, plus Petraeus buying peace from the Sunnis, $24M/month for 80,000 Sunni fighters, were major reasons for the dropoff in violence last summer.

The violence was already decreasing in Dec 2006, 2 months before the surge started.

Petraeus also switched from extremely aggressive, door-kicking tactics last spring (a record number of US military deaths in 2007) because he was losing too many men. Petraeus' aggression got lots of pushback from the Iraqis. Huge mistake by Petraeus.

While ankle-biter McFlop trashes and cheap-shots HUSSEIN every other sentence before friendly audiences, HUSSEIN, on the world stage, was VERY restrained in his M/E speeches vs what he could have said about dubya/McSenile M/E policy, not that classlessness by McFlop would bother any right wingers.

It's a very complicated situation, but the WH/McSenile propaganda about the escalation, exclusivley, working or "winning" is of course outright, simplistic lying by denying the above factors.

Get back under your rock slimeball. And quit be an apologist for
Barry, baby. He is an idiot just like you.

[boutons_]

Darrin's very touchy about HUSSEIN's facts, but loves the lying propaganda from the right, and esp the total bullshit from McFlop

[FromWayDowntown]

Get back under your rock slimeball. And quit be an apologist for Barry, baby. He is an idiot just like you.

There's great irony here.

[Spurminator]

It certainly wasn't a wise choice of words -- especially when and where he said them. He should be more careful.

Sounds like Political Correctness to me.

[boutons_]

HUSSEIN's word are simple and statement of fact.

And pretty much echoes Maliki's several reasons for the drop in violence, which, no accident, didn't mention the US military, proving HUSSEIN is a Muslim terrorist.

[Spur-Addict]

Sounds like Political Correctness to me.

More like, powder puff bullshit.

[Nbadan]

What McCain won't tell you about ''the surge' and the M$M is too crooked to ask..



W9GcOEPQbe8

[herzlman]

Hey, did you all hear that Barack Obama supports ethnic cleansing!?!?!

So typical of those who have the name Hussein in thier names, when you think about it.

You moron. He doesn't support ethnic cleansing. What he's actually saying is that the main reason violence decreased in Iraq was the fact that most areas in Iraq had been ethnically cleansed.

He never said that ethnic cleansing was a great way to reduce violence. He's just saying that violence went down because of cleansing and not because of the Surge.

[ChumpDumper]

Please read the sarcasm FAQ.

[Nbadan]

You moron. He doesn't support ethnic cleansing. What he's actually saying is that the main reason violence decreased in Iraq was the fact that most areas in Iraq had been ethnically cleansed.

He never said that ethnic cleansing was a great way to reduce violence. He's just saying that violence went down because of cleansing and not because of the Surge.

:lol

There's one in every crowd!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

so the bubbas are denying that ethnic cleansing of Sunnis took place?

Where does HUSSEIN support ethnic cleansing?

So a presidential candidate should be excited about ethnic cleansing?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

There are people, even here in this forum, who will never vote for anybody for the sole his name is HUSSEIN.

There are people, even here in this forum, who will never vote for anybody for the sole reason that he's black.

There are people, even here in this forum, who will never vote for Hussein because they lie that he's Muslim.

Just a friendly, daily reminders of all the bad history and incredible weaknesses of McSenile.

Hate? Hard to love conservatives for all the disasters and havoc they've wreaked on the US and world since at least Jan 01.

Yes, if only they could live up to the high standards of Democrats, who have hung the mother of all financial albatrosses around our neck - Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, the Fannie/Freddie situation....

Bush has been a disaster, but those programs are going to be the financial coupe de grace on our country's future.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Darrin's very touchy about HUSSEIN's facts, but loves the lying propaganda from the right, and esp the total bullshit from McFlop

:lmao ooooooh, the irony.

Here's another way of putting it:


boutons is very touchy about HUSSEIN's facts, but loves the lying propaganda from the left, and esp the total bullshit from Flopsama