View Full Version : Another story that didn't make the news
DarrinS
07-22-2008, 11:13 AM
http://www.startribune.com/local/25472764.html
A woman whose husband was severely beaten trying to protect his daughter from being molested as the family left Valleyfair said Tuesday they remain traumatized and are still healing from bruises and injuries.
Eight young men are accused of taking turns stomping on and kicking the head of the 41-year-old man, who was knocked unconscious as his wife and three daughters tried to help him. Prosecutors say more serious charges could be brought against the men if the man's injuries are permanent.
"He is hanging in there," said his wife, who asked that the family not be identified out of fear for their safety. She didn't recognize their attackers: "I never seen them a day before in my life."
Shakopee police said serious felony assaults are unusual at the amusement park, which normally has a handful of misdemeanor assaults each summer. The park said Tuesday that 22 security guards were on duty the evening of the assault, July 4, when the fair closed at midnight, and that safety is a priority.
Police arrested seven of the suspects in the Valleyfair parking lot that night and the eighth escaped. Police did not have a good description of that suspect but would like help finding him.
Six men and a 14-year-old boy were charged July 8 with third-degree felony assault. More serious charges, and possibly a sex assault charge, may be filed after police finish their investigation, Scott County Attorney Patrick Ciliberto said Tuesday.
"This type of violence cannot be accepted in our community," he said. "We had a family at the fair enjoying the holiday. Behavior like this is personal to our community."
Ciliberto said Valleyfair has had "no assault of this magnitude" since he took office in 2002. He said the father was taken to Ridges Hospital in Burnsville for a fractured eye socket bone and other injuries. His office was told Monday that doctors were waiting for the man's swelling to subside before checking for permanent injuries, which could justify more serious charges.
The couple was nearing the exit gate with their three daughters at about midnight on July 4, when two young men approached and slapped the youngest girl, about 12, on her buttocks. Her father yelled at the men, one of whom pulled out a cell phone and called for others to join in on the assault.
The wife said she and her daughters tried to protect her husband, and are still recovering from being punched. Her husband has been home from the hospital for a week .
She said she couldn't say more for fear of hurting the prosecution's case.
The assault "was an isolated incident. This has not happened before," said Valleyfair spokeswoman Rachel Onken. "We are a very safe park." She said the guards handled the incident as they were trained and no immediate security changes are planned.
Shakopee Police Capt. Jeff Tate said Valleyfair has "a skirmish once in a while. We usually don't see anything escalate like this." He said park security officers do a good job and that this is the only felony assault this year. He said a domestic assault occurred in the Valleyfair parking lot in May and two juveniles were charged in June with disorderly conduct and misdemeanor assault.
One of the suspects, Darris D. Evans, allegedly punched a man in the face as the group left the unconscious father. Evans, 20, of Brooklyn Park, is charged with a misdemeanor assault for that offense, Tate said.
Besides Evans, five other men and an unnamed juvenile were charged with third-degree felony assault. The five are Derry D. Evans, 19, Minneapolis; Devondre Evans-Lewis, 18, of Columbia Heights; Terry L. Arnold, 22, Brooklyn Park; Andrew D. Shannon, 19, of Minneapolis, and Anthony C. Gildersleeve, 20, Edina.
Bail was set at $40,000 to $60,000 each and all the suspects posted bail bonds, a jail official said.
A check of state records show that two of the suspects have prior felony charges. Arnold and Evans-Lewis were arrested in an Eagan prostitution sting and charged in April with promoting prostitution in Dakota County. Arnold pleaded guilty in May. Arnold also was convicted of two misdemeanor assaults in 2005 and 2006.
Gildersleeve was convicted in March 2008 of carrying a pistol without a permit in a public place, a misdemeanor. Derry Evans was convicted of escaping from custody in January 2008. He was also convicted in May 2008 of disorderly conduct, a gross misdemeanor.
Staff writer Abby Simons contributed to this report. Jim Adams • 612-673-7658
Oh, Gee!!
07-22-2008, 11:19 AM
I'm sure the fine people at the Star-Tribune would consider their reporting of the story as "making the news."
DarrinS
07-22-2008, 11:20 AM
I'm sure the fine people at the Star-Tribune would consider their reporting of the story as "making the news."
Is it the first you heard of it?
Oh, Gee!!
07-22-2008, 11:20 AM
According to the OP's logic, here's another story that "didn't make the news." http://www.startribune.com/local/25756284.html?location_refer=Local%20+%20Metro
Oh, Gee!!
07-22-2008, 11:21 AM
Is it the first you heard of it?
No, I live in the twin cities and remember this being reported on all local TV stations and being reported in the local paper for several days.
FromWayDowntown
07-22-2008, 11:24 AM
Why would this be national news?
Oh, Gee!!
07-22-2008, 11:25 AM
I though all news was local news. Or, is it politics?
DarrinS
07-22-2008, 11:26 AM
Why would this be national news?
The Duke Lacrosse team was nat'l news and it was a crime that never even happened.
FromWayDowntown
07-22-2008, 11:29 AM
The Duke Lacrosse team was nat'l news and it was a crime that never even happened.
So, the national media should run stories everytime there is an alleged mass assault of an individual?
If anything, one would think that the crazy reporting on the Duke Lacrosse case has taught the media not to go berserk over stories like this one.
But that wouldn't fit your narrative, would it?
DarrinS
07-22-2008, 11:33 AM
Oh well, these fine upstanding gentlemen will probably die before age 35 anyway.
Oh, Gee!!
07-22-2008, 11:34 AM
The Duke Lacrosse team was nat'l news and it was a crime that never even happened.
a crime that couldn't be proven at least.
Oh, Gee!!
07-22-2008, 11:35 AM
Oh well, these fine upstanding gentlemen will probably die before age 35 anyway.
well, that should help you sleep better at night.
DarrinS
07-22-2008, 11:37 AM
a crime that couldn't be proven at least.
You don't read much, do you?
Oh, Gee!!
07-22-2008, 11:38 AM
You don't read much, do you?
I read the Star-Tribune.
FromWayDowntown
07-22-2008, 11:48 AM
Oh well, these fine upstanding gentlemen will probably die before age 35 anyway.
Seriously, are you arguing that the media should devote national attention to every crime in which multiple persons are alleged to have attacked a single person? Every time someone gets rolled by a group, that should be a national story?
I agree with you that the Duke Lacrosse case was an example of a media that sensationalized a story and got caught with its pants down in the end. But the fact that the media behaved so boorishly in that circumstance suggests to me that it should be more restrained going forward, not that it should now sensationalize every story that might be kind of like what was alleged to have happened in Durham.
Spurminator
07-22-2008, 11:55 AM
Plus, it's somewhat understandable that an alledged crime involving a group of athletes from a well-known and respected university would merit national news coverage.
I think the OP is trying to suggest that there is some sort of racial double-standard at play with these two stories, but he would have a better case if the incident he posted involved a white woman accusing the Grambling football team of assault. I have a hard time believing a story like that would be under-reported nationally.
boutons_
07-22-2008, 12:07 PM
the victim wasn't young, pretty, and female. yawn
oops, forgot "blond"
DarrinS
07-22-2008, 12:09 PM
Plus, it's somewhat understandable that an alledged crime involving a group of athletes from a well-known and respected university would merit national news coverage.
I think the OP is trying to suggest that there is some sort of racial double-standard at play with these two stories, but he would have a better case if the incident he posted involved a white woman accusing the Grambling football team of assault. I have a hard time believing a story like that would be under-reported nationally.
Why have I heard of some guy named Joe Horn, that killed two illegal aliens burglarizing a home?
ChumpDumper
07-22-2008, 12:22 PM
Why have I heard of some guy named Joe Horn, that killed two illegal aliens burglarizing a home?Because some dumbass posted it here, most likely.
mavs>spurs2
07-22-2008, 12:24 PM
Shit like this makes me sick. Where were all the bystanders to stomp these little pansies out before the poor man got serious injuries just trying to protect his daughter? If I ever witnessed something like this I promise bullets would fly until every last attacker was off that man. I don't know if I'm more upset about what happened or the fact that no one stood up for the guy.
mavs>spurs2
07-22-2008, 12:37 PM
What kind of sick fuck slaps a 12 year old on the butt?
DarrinS
07-22-2008, 12:42 PM
Shit like this makes me sick. Where were all the bystanders to stomp these little pansies out before the poor man got serious injuries just trying to protect his daughter? If I ever witnessed something like this I promise bullets would fly until every last attacker was off that man. I don't know if I'm more upset about what happened or the fact that no one stood up for the guy.
I agree with you. I don't see how people could stand around and watch that happen.
I can't fathom, back when I was 18-20 yrs old, approaching some family (regardless of their race) and slapping their 12 yr old daughter on the ass. WTF is that?
I'm sure these guys will get much worse done to their asses when they go to prison.
Extra Stout
07-22-2008, 12:44 PM
The national media obliterated its own credibility with the Duke lacrosse case. It could not resist the sensational value of indulging the meme of "rich people who think they are above the law being brought to task." They abrogated their responsibility.
The result was another chunk taken out of the pillar of media credibility. The upshot for our society is that people have another reason to indulge their confirmation biases and avoid thinking critically, which is one of the things that ultimately will dissolve the country.
However, it would be just as irresponsible to indulge the meme of "blacks are feral predators who will attack you and your family." The confirmation bias for that meme is not exactly lacking in greater suburbia.
"Why have I heard of some guy named Joe Horn, that killed two illegal aliens burglarizing a home?"
The Joe Horn case is fascinating and worthy of national discussion.
Extra Stout
07-22-2008, 12:48 PM
Shit like this makes me sick. Where were all the bystanders to stomp these little pansies out before the poor man got serious injuries just trying to protect his daughter? If I ever witnessed something like this I promise bullets would fly until every last attacker was off that man. I don't know if I'm more upset about what happened or the fact that no one stood up for the guy.
I suspect people are less likely to pack heat in Minnesota than in Texas. I also suspect bystanders were deathly afraid of the eight young violent black men.
"I'm sure these guys will get much worse done to their asses when they go to prison. "
I suspect it's much more likely they will be regarded as heroes for messing up whitey.
DarrinS
07-22-2008, 12:54 PM
I suspect it's much more likely they will be regarded as heroes for messing up whitey.
You're probably right.
You know what, I grew up on the west side of SA, and I've been in my fair share of fights, and I've NEVER EVER stomped someone's skull into the pavement. I've never even kicked someone in the face. These guys are lucky they're facing aggrivated assault and not attempted murder. But then again, you'd have to prove that the "alleged" attackers were smart enough to know they might kill the man.
Wild Cobra
07-22-2008, 12:57 PM
The reason it didn't make national news is simple.
The attackers were either black, illegal, democrats, etc. Anything but a white conservative.
The victims were middleclass whites.
Spurminator
07-22-2008, 01:03 PM
The reason it didn't make national news is simple.
The attackers were either black, illegal, democrats, etc. Anything but a white conservative.
The victims were middleclass whites.
You've really devolved into self parody lately. Is it intentional?
ChumpDumper
07-22-2008, 01:08 PM
It wasn't videotaped and the victims don't want their identies revealed.
Makes for bad TV.
FromWayDowntown
07-22-2008, 02:42 PM
"Why have I heard of some guy named Joe Horn, that killed two illegal aliens burglarizing a home?"
The Joe Horn case is fascinating and worthy of national discussion.
The Horn case also involves the novel application of a fairly unique law to a situation that immediately polarizes the public, creating that worthwhile discussion on several levels.
By comparison, I don't think anyone would argue that what the attackers did in the Minnesota case was laudable or should be an activity protected by law.
jochhejaam
07-22-2008, 07:52 PM
Okay, this must be the thread for tragic local stories that didn't go national.
Toledo man fatally shot while riding bike to work
Updated: July 15, 2008 06:15 PM EDT
TOLEDO, OH (WTOL) - Toledo Police say 46-year-old David Babcock died this morning at St. Vincent-Mercy Medical Center after he was shot in the head during an argument with an apparent stranger. It was the city's tenth murder this year.
The incident happened just before 6 a.m. in the city's south end on Western, near the Anthony Wayne Trail. His co-workers say Babcock was on his way to work, that he'd wanted to start riding his bike to save money on gas.
Babcock's family and friends say they are too distraught to talk on camera and can't believe the man they loved -- a father and grandfather, engaged to be married -- is gone.
"He'd do anything for ya. Give you the shirt off his back. I just can't understand why someone would do this. It's horrible," said one of Babcock's longtime neighbors.
Babcock had just gotten a new bike and had added flashing lights and radio speakers to it.
"He loved his bike, worked on it, worked on it and worked on it," the neighbor said.
Babcock's fiance said the bike was a source of pride to him.
"He was so proud of it and he couldn't wait to ride it to work. It was his first day of riding it to work so he could save money on gas," Babcock's fiance said.
Babcock had planned to ride from his east Toledo home to Fresh Products in south Toledo where he'd worked for 26 years. Police say he was gunned down after an argument on Western, near the Trail.
"From what the witnesses said, it didn't sound like 'Give me your money' type of argument," said Toledo Police Captain Ray Carroll. "It was name-calling going back and forth. It got pretty heated, enough to wake some people up."
Police say the suspect -- a tall black man -- ran away after shooting Babcock.
"I'm devastated for the family," said Theresa Morrow, who heard the shot. "I feel sorrow for them because this should not have happened. For an honest man to do an honest day's work and going to do that honest day's work gets gunned down. There's no reason."
Babcock's longtime neighbor said Babcock had gone through difficult times.
"He had brain surgery done. We sat and watched him get through that and chemo. And he came back and made it through all of that and then this happens. And that's wrong. That's wrong."
http://www.wtol.com/Global/story.asp?S=8675586&nav=5UaieV76
Tragically, these senseless crimes are commonplace, a daily occurence, and only the most "spectacular" <---repulsive I know> make it to the level of National News.
Spur-Addict
07-22-2008, 08:14 PM
Oh well, these fine upstanding gentlemen will probably live past age 70 anyway.
How do you say it?...Fixed? :lol
Oh, Gee!!
07-23-2008, 10:06 AM
another story that did "make the news"
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/07/22/taser.death/index.html
Oh, Gee!!
07-23-2008, 02:05 PM
http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2008/jul/22/bonita-man-arrested-after-allegedly-stealing-42-ce/
Heath Ledger
07-23-2008, 02:14 PM
cool beans
Mr. Peabody
07-23-2008, 02:15 PM
another story that did "make the news"
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/07/22/taser.death/index.html
Yeah, but the nine tases was from one cop. That shouldn't qualify as news. Now if it was three cops doing three tases each, nine cops doing one tase each or two cops doing four and a half tases each, that would be news.
smeagol
07-23-2008, 04:09 PM
Shit like this makes me sick. Where were all the bystanders to stomp these little pansies out before the poor man got serious injuries just trying to protect his daughter? If I ever witnessed something like this I promise bullets would fly until every last attacker was off that man. I don't know if I'm more upset about what happened or the fact that no one stood up for the guy.
back to basics begs to differ. So does peewee.
They are of the school of thought you should never stand up for strangers getting beaten. Even if the person being beaten is a woman.
mavs>spurs2
07-23-2008, 04:59 PM
back to basics begs to differ. So does peewee.
They are of the school of thought you should never stand up for strangers getting beaten. Even if the person being beaten is a woman.
Fuck that, hitting on a woman is even 10 times worse. Society makes me sick
Shit my little sister could kick a man in the head when he's down and hurt him, anyone can do that. Fuckin pansies
Cry Havoc
07-24-2008, 12:40 AM
Throw them all in jail for life. There is no way a conscionable human being would ever do something like this. It's appalling, and we should never let them walk the streets again.
I have very little mercy on those who gang up on people to inflict pain on the defenseless.
MannyIsGod
07-24-2008, 01:58 AM
:lol Darrin owned himself in this thread. Awesome.
MannyIsGod
07-24-2008, 02:00 AM
BTW, If you want to talk about horrible shit that doesn't make the news I can provide pages of it Darrin. Pages. I don't know why this is an even an argument. When's the last time you saw a missing brown woman get the same kind of coverage that Natalie Holloway did?
Yeah, the fucking media hates white people. Poor fucking white people are accused of everything bad under the sun while minorities get away with bloody fucking murder in the news.
Poor white man. Seriously.
Nbadan
07-24-2008, 04:09 AM
You've really devolved into self parody lately. Is it intentional?
:lol
DarrinS
07-24-2008, 10:58 AM
Yeah, the fucking media hates white people. Poor fucking white people are accused of everything bad under the sun while minorities get away with bloody fucking murder in the news.
Poor white man. Seriously.
I guess we know where you stand.
FromWayDowntown
07-24-2008, 11:05 AM
Pssh. Manny and his insistence on being tied to reality.
Really.
MannyIsGod
07-24-2008, 01:56 PM
Remember when the black CEO got away with bloody murder while the poor Enron white people had to sell a house in Aspen?
I. Hustle
07-24-2008, 02:04 PM
Toledo is gangsta
DarrinS
07-24-2008, 02:34 PM
Remember when the black CEO got away with bloody murder while the poor Enron white people had to sell a house in Aspen?
No stereotypes there.
MannyIsGod
07-24-2008, 02:38 PM
No stereotypes there.
Oh I'm sorry, I could have sworn this was the stereotype thread. Don't know where on earth I would have gotten that impression.
DarrinS
07-24-2008, 02:47 PM
Oh I'm sorry, I could have sworn this was the stereotype thread. Don't know where on earth I would have gotten that impression.
No, it was trying to point out a media bias, but I guess you missed the point.
MannyIsGod
07-24-2008, 02:52 PM
No, it was trying to point out a media bias, but I guess you missed the point.
:lol
Oh, Gee!!
07-24-2008, 02:57 PM
No, it was trying to point out a media bias, but I inadvertently pointed out my own.
fixed
Mr. Peabody
07-24-2008, 03:01 PM
fixed
:lol
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