Cali or Texas? Who would have the better combined NBA team

[dallaskd]

Saw this on another forum. Poll Coming.

California: Lakers, Clippers, Kings, Warriors

Texas: Mavs, Spurs, Rockets

[manufor3]

no contest, texas

[JamStone]

Could be interesting...

Baron Davis / Monta Ellis
Kobe Bryant / Corey Maggette / Kevin Martin
Ron Artest / Stephen Jackson
Pau Gasol / Marcus Camby / Al Harrington
Andrew Bynum / Chris Kaman

Tony Parker / Jason Kidd
Manu Ginobili / Jerry Stackhouse / Jason Terry
Tracy McGrady / Josh Howard
Dirk Nowitzki / Luis Scola / Brandon Bass
Tim Duncan / Yao Ming

I know some may agree with all the players I chose, but that's my opinion on who my 12 for each state would be.

[Ghazi]

Obvious edge to Texas. combining the rosters of 3 50+ teams is more lethal than combining the roster of #1 seed + 3 lottery teams.

[monosylab1k]

between Kobe, Baron, Artest, & Stephen Jackson, that Cali team would have a complete meltdown on the court.

meanwhile a starting 5 of Parker, Ginobili, McGrady, Dirk, & Duncan combines 4 of the best teammates in the NBA with 1 incredible athletic talent in T-Mac. I'd almost rather have Battier or Bowen start over T-Mac just to have a completely selfless team on the court that can bust your ass in every way possible.

[anakha]

Very interesting concept.

Without stating who would win in such a matchup, these are my observations:

1) Yao is going to get run ragged by the run & gun lineups the Cali team can throw out there.

2) Dirk and Duncan? Yowza.

3) With Artest and Maggette, Cali's swingmen are more than capable of posting up their Texas equivalents.

[GuerillaBlack]

Call the NBA.

[Biggems]

those would be the best two teams in the NBA.........two 70+ win teams.....possibly two 80 win teams with their only losses coming against one another.

[Biggems]

Regular Season Series

Cali 3 - Texas 1

Postseason Series

Texas 4 - Cali 2


Cali Coaches - Jackson, Nellie, Dunleavy, Theus

TX Coaches - Pop, Bud, Adelman, whoever the hell Dallas signed

[nickdakoolkat]

the problem with the texas team would be nobody would want to shoot the ball...the problem with the cali team would be nobody would want to pass the ball....

[nickdakoolkat]

ohhh and as for the stephen jackson comment, the guy has been nothing but a class act and a gentleman ever since he has joined the dubz....who would have thought that Oakland could turn him around?!?!

[dallaskd]

since he has joined the dubz....?!

the dubz?

[kupogrey]

not enough balls to go around on the cali team :depressed

[TheMadHatter]

Dumb thread

Texas produced George W. Bush and voted him into office twice. They lose by default.

[Indazone]

Dumb thread

Texas produced George W. Bush and voted him into office twice. They lose by default.

And California elected Governor "Moonbeam" Jerry Brown. You lose.

[dallaskd]

Dumb thread

Texas produced George W. Bush and voted him into office twice. They lose by default.

you know you spelt hater wrong in your username?

[Fillmoe]

THIZZAFORNIA has black mamba....

KILL YASELF!

[Fillmoe]

you know you spelt hater wrong in your username?

did you ever think that he is a collector of hats?

[Fillmoe]

the dubz?

dubz = W's = Warriors

[anakha]

did you ever think that he is a collector of hats?

http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/4/7/28/t_madhatter1m_5fd4d41.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/4/7/28/f_madhatter1m_5fd4d41.jpg&srv=img33)

[KidCongo]

Texas.

[der Kaiser]

Could be interesting...

Baron Davis / Monta Ellis
Kobe Bryant / Corey Maggette / Kevin Martin
Ron Artest / Stephen Jackson
Pau Gasol / Marcus Camby / Al Harrington
Andrew Bynum / Chris Kaman

Tony Parker / Jason Kidd
Manu Ginobili / Jerry Stackhouse / Jason Terry
Tracy McGrady / Josh Howard
Dirk Nowitzki / Luis Scola / Brandon Bass
Tim Duncan / Yao Ming

I know some may agree with all the players I chose, but that's my opinion on who my 12 for each state would be.

Potential Laker starting line up?

[TheMadHatter]

And California elected Governor "Moonbeam" Jerry Brown. You lose.

Did Jerry Brown lead the United States into an ill-advised war wasting trillions of dollars in the process? Did Jerry Brown destroy any credibility the United States has around the world? Did Jerry Brown alienate the nation by pursuing an aggressive values based campaign?

You lose. It would be forgivable if the people of Texas had enough fucking sense to not vote this dumbfuck into office the 2nd time around........

[anakha]

Did Jerry Brown lead the United States into an ill-advised war wasting trillions of dollars in the process? Did Jerry Brown destroy any credibility the United States has around the world? Did Jerry Brown alienate the nation by pursuing an aggressive values based campaign?

You lose. It would be forgivable if the people of Texas had enough fucking sense to not vote this dumbfuck into office the 2nd time around........

We do have a Political Forum, you know. ;)

Back on topic...

[TheMadHatter]

Back on topic the state of Texas would beat California if we combined all the teams. You have three legitimate playoff teams, we have one.

[Sense]

You think Maggette is better than Kevin Martin?
:lmao

I hope you're joking fool..

because Maggette IS better than Kevin Martin, right now..

who knows later on.

[monosylab1k]

Dumb thread

Texas produced George W. Bush and voted him into office twice. They lose by default.

http://www.libertyfilmfestival.com/libertas/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/governator.jpg

and none of that has anything to do with the basketball teams you California fuck.

[Biggems]

who is this ron artest guy? is he related to Bill Artest of the Sacramento Kings?

[Biggems]

Dumb thread

Texas produced George W. Bush and voted him into office twice. They lose by default.

actually, GW was born in Connecticut.....and his family moved here when he was young.

BTW.....Reagan, from Cali made Bush his VP....this brought the Bush name into national prominence. So, thanks to Cali, we have a "TEXAN" in the White House.

Texas Rules

[alamo50]

Could be interesting...

That was a joke, right?

[BUMP]

if you get Dirk, Duncan, McGrady, Ginobli on the same team, on the same court, at the same time. i'll take them against almost any lineup

[LakeShow]

No doubt those are great teams on both sides but if you include the best coaches from each state to coach them, It wouldn't even be close! Phil owns Pop! So I vote for California!

;)

[Anti.Hero]

Loser leaves the country imo.

[I. Hustle]

I take Texas. From a coaching standpoint Pop actually built his own team as opposed to looking for teams that have superstar players ie Coach Coat tails. Then you look at the big men and it’s not even close. I don’t think anyone talks about any other place scarier to play then the “Texas Triangle”

On an off note. I was completely unaware that Texas was the only state that counted when it came to voting. That also makes us better.

[stretch]

if you get Dirk, Duncan, McGrady, Ginobli on the same team, on the same court, at the same time. i'll take them against almost any lineup

Seriously, a lineup of Kidd, Ginobili, T-Mac, Dirk, and Duncan is out of this world. I know Spurs fans get a hard-on over Tony Parker, but Jason Kidd would fit this lineup better, as they would not need a scorer, but someone to simply pass, rebound, and defend.

[xtremesteven33]

PG-Kidd
SG-Ginobili
SF-McGrady
PF-Nowitzki
C-Duncan


makes more sense

[stretch]

PG-Kidd
SG-Ginobili
SF-McGrady
PF-Nowitzki
C-Duncan


makes more sense

in all honesty though, i wouldnt mind replacing T-mac with Bowen (as mono said), because the team already has three guys that are unstoppable at scoring in 3 different ways (Dirk - Shooting and High post scoring, Ginobili - Shooting and penetration scoring, Duncan - Post scoring), a pure distributer in Kidd, and a defensive specialist in Bowen who also is unstoppable with that corner 3, which he will thrive off of even more with the additions of Kidd and Dirk. Dirk is the weakest defender on the team, but even his defense is not bad at all, especially considering the crap he has had for centers to back him up. Now he will have an all-time great post defender in Tim Duncan, which should help his defense quite a bit, not to mention everyone else on the team are AT LEAST very solid defenders. it would be a completely selfless team that can score in so many ways, and has virtually no weakness that isnt covered up by one another. This would be a perfect example of the "perfect team" in that they would work together and be selfless and cover up each others weaknesses with their own strengths.

[xtremesteven33]

or how bout.

PG-Kidd
SG-McGrady
SF-Bowen
PF-Nowitzki
C-Duncan

[stretch]

or how bout.

PG-Kidd
SG-McGrady
SF-Bowen
PF-Nowitzki
C-Duncan

very intriguing, but I think i might rather have Ginobili. T-Mac is a superior talent to Ginobili, but his lack of consistency on both ends of the court is what keeps him out in my book (although a lot of that may have to do with his injuries and inability to get in a rhythm for an entire season)

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

All this talk about combining teams excites me so much I just wanna go create the teams on Live 08.

[I. Hustle]

I think I will

[xtremesteven33]

Nba2k8 > Nba Live 08

[SynicFan]

or how bout.

PG-Kidd
SG-McGrady
SF-Bowen
PF-Nowitzki
C-Duncan

PG Kidd
SG McGrady
SF Nowitzki
PF Duncan
C Yao

Think about the size mismatches.

[xtremesteven33]

i like your sig

:tu

[SynicFan]

i like your sig

:tu



Im....not sure if you're just being a jester however...
thank you good sir! :D

[angel_luv]

Great so the Spurs would be stuck with the Mavericks ( enough said) and the " can't make it past the first round" Rockets.

Those are two serious handicaps to overcome.

Not to say we couldn't do it.

[dirk4mvp]

Great so the Spurs would be stuck with the Mavericks ( enough said) and the " can't make it past the first round" Rockets.

Those are two serious handicaps to overcome.

Not to say we couldn't do it.



The one thing we have going for us is the texas team isn't stuck with suck ass euro players you're obsessed with.

[xtremesteven33]

Im....not sure if you're just being a jester however...
thank you good sir! :D


jester?

[SynicFan]

jester?


a person who is given to witticisms, jokes, and pranks

[stretch]

The one thing we have going for us is the texas team isn't stuck with suck ass euro players you're obsessed with.

:lmao

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

The one thing we have going for us is the texas team isn't stuck with suck ass euro players you're obsessed with.

:lol

[washingtonwizard]

Seeing that the Texas team would have players that can dominate games such as Duncan, Dirk, TMac. I only see Kobe as true dominator in Cali team. Texas would most likely.

[benefactor]

That Duncan/Yao/Dirk front line is simply devastating. You also have Battier, who defends Kobe better than any player in the league. Those two thing would be just too much for the Cali team to overcome.

[Rappin' Shaq]

Dirk is tha best his shot stings like mace
If you disagree with me dog i'll punch you in the face
The Texas team is the undisputed winner of this race
Yo Kobe, tell me how my ass taste.

[IronMexican]

Speaking of Cali, we just got an earth quake in the whole SoCal area, pretty scary.

[angel_luv]

Speaking of Cali, we just got an earth quake in the whole SoCal area, pretty scary.

Wow- hope everyone is okay.


:)

[dallaskd]

Dirk is tha best his shot stings like mace
If you disagree with me dog i'll punch you in the face
The Texas team is the undisputed winner of this race
Yo Kobe, tell me how my ass taste.

:tu

[dirk4mvp]

Speaking of Cali, we just got an earth quake in the whole SoCal area, pretty scary.


Don't try and use that to get sympathy just because you know the Texas team would beat the Cali team.

[IronMexican]

Don't try and use that to get sympathy just because you know the Texas team would beat the Cali team.

I would actually agree.

Texas' bigs are just too overwhelming.

[dallaskd]

What have you been watching!?

Kevin Martin is much better. Look at his numbers as well as his age.

Martin is a much better scorer. Cant say much else because i dont see either play much...but because of age and their numbers in the past few years...

Martin>Maggette

[kupogrey]

this would be badass on nba2k8

[I. Hustle]

There needs to be an online matchup. Like when Rocky beat whatever Tarver's name was in the movie. Then post the final score

[jacobdrj]

The concept is intriguing.
However, looking at the prospective rosters, I am not as enamored with the 2 teams as I thought I would be. The Kings are no longer the talent pool it was during the Adleman era. The Lakers are a bit less defensive than they were during their championship years this decade. The Spurs look like they could hold their own (not win, but at least be competitive) even if the Texas team wasn't condensed, based on size alone. The Clippers lost Brand, and while Kaman is capable, he is no superstar. We don't yet know what Bynum is, but as of now, Dirk/Duncan is better than anything the Cali team can throw at 'em...


All division teams... an interesting idea. This is a lot of fun.
New NBA Talk thread about it?

[IronMexican]

The concept is intriguing.
However, looking at the prospective rosters, I am not as enamored with the 2 teams as I thought I would be. The Kings are no longer the talent pool it was during the Adleman era. The Lakers are a bit less defensive than they were during their championship years this decade. The Spurs look like they could hold their own (not win, but at least be competitive) even if the Texas team wasn't condensed, based on size alone. The Clippers lost Brand, and while Kaman is capable, he is no superstar. We don't yet know what Bynum is, but as of now, Dirk/Duncan is better than anything the Cali team can throw at 'em...


All division teams... an interesting idea. This is a lot of fun.
New NBA Talk thread about it?

I think Pacific has a better chance that way

It would be

Nash/Davis
Kobe/Martin
Artest/Odom?
STAT/Pau
Shaq(although, i feel bynum is better)/Bynum

against

Paul/Parker
Tmac/Manu
Dirk?/Peja
Timmeh/West
Yao/Chandler?

[jacobdrj]

Who is STAT?

[IronMexican]

Amare.

It stands for "Standing Tall And Talented"

But i call him stat for his stat padding ways.

[dallaskd]

I think Pacific has a better chance that way

It would be

Nash/Davis
Kobe/Martin
Artest/Odom?
STAT/Pau
Shaq(although, i feel bynum is better)/Bynum

against

Paul/Parker
Tmac/Manu
Dirk?/Peja
Timmeh/West
Yao/Chandler?

I can see Paul over Kidd...but Parker??? come on now

[IronMexican]

I can see Paul over Kidd...but Parker??? come on now

Kidd Totally slipped My mind.

But it's a toss up for me, between those two.

[dallaskd]

well with Artest in Houston...end of thread.

[GuerillaBlack]

well with Artest in Houston...end of thread.

Confirmed. :)

[SynicFan]

yeah. what they said.

[Spurtacus]

This is a no brainer.

[cash459]

Did Jerry Brown lead the United States into an ill-advised war wasting trillions of dollars in the process? Did Jerry Brown destroy any credibility the United States has around the world? Did Jerry Brown alienate the nation by pursuing an aggressive values based campaign?

You lose. It would be forgivable if the people of Texas had enough fucking sense to not vote this dumbfuck into office the 2nd time around........

are you really trying to compare a governor's job to the job of a president!!?? :lmao

no sir, YOU fail!

[cash459]

I think Pacific has a better chance that way

It would be

Nash/Davis
Kobe/Martin
Artest/Odom?
STAT/Pau
Shaq(although, i feel bynum is better)/Bynum

against

Paul/Parker
Tmac/Manu
Dirk?/Peja
Timmeh/West
Yao/Chandler?

so you dont put duncan on that list!? are you serious!? :lmao :rollin

chandler is better than duncan!? :nope GTFO!

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

so you dont put duncan on that list!? are you serious!? :lmao :rollin

chandler is better than duncan!? :nope GTFO!

Tim is on the list. :lmao

[stretch]

im kind of wondering why these lists are including a team that is not from texas?

[stretch]

so you dont put duncan on that list!? are you serious!? :lmao :rollin

chandler is better than duncan!? :nope GTFO!

i think its you who needs to pull your head out of your ass and get the fuck out. tim is on the list.

[IronMexican]

so you dont put duncan on that list!? are you serious!? :lmao :rollin

chandler is better than duncan!? :nope GTFO!

hah, what an ass wipe you are.

[monosylab1k]

im kind of wondering why these lists are including a team that is not from texas?

Laker Fan got pissed about how bad his team would get their asses kicked, so they gerrymandered things to include the Suns for them.

[IronMexican]

im kind of wondering why these lists are including a team that is not from texas?

Someone mentioned the whole SouthWest vs the Pacific, which is why I added players from New Orleans and Phoenix.

[Spuradicator]

Potential Laker starting line up?

vs. the best of the Spurs/Mavs/Rockets

:lmao

Texas wins this in 4 games easily, even if Joey Crawford is refing

[GuerillaBlack]

Southwest vs Pacific? Southwest easily...and I mean EASILY.

[manufor3]

ohhh and as for the stephen jackson comment, the guy has been nothing but a class act and a gentleman ever since he has joined the dubz....who would have thought that Oakland could turn him around?!?!

:nope:nope:nope

[cash459]

Tim is on the list. :lmao

:lol @ myself.... big OOPS...i automatically looked at C instead of PF..MY BAD! :depressed

it was getting hard to breathe, so i did pull my head out of my ass.... :lol :downspin:

[sook]

The SW division is the toughest in the entire league...anyone that thinks pacific would win is delusional.


Just for the tx vs cali thing heres my lineup...

Tony Parker/Jason Kidd
Ginobili/ Brent Barry
Tracy Mcgrady/ Ron Artest
Tim Duncan/ Dirk
Yao Ming/ Diop

[sook]

o and only 1/4 teams in cali made the play offs this yr while 3/3 make the playoffs in tx just about every yr

[manufor3]

LOL... you damn Spurs fans sure do defend your PRECIOUS!!! Timmy is on the list though... he just spelled it Timmeh.

just like you defend kobe "the rapist" bryant and pau "the wuss" gasol

[IronMexican]

:lol @ myself.... big OOPS...i automatically looked at C instead of PF..MY BAD! :depressed

it was getting hard to breathe, so i did pull my head out of my ass.... :lol :downspin:

lol, mistakes will be made.

but yeah, i think texas wins this one with artest.

[cash459]

i agree....too much talent and unselfishness on the Texas Team