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Aggie Hoopsfan
07-30-2008, 11:02 PM
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NGFhODY5MTY0OGEzYjdmNWU2YWQyOTIzMzk3ZGQ4ZmU=

:lmao, damn, this mofo is smart!


Proper Tire Inflation? Great. How About the Other Two out of Every Three Drivers?

The RNC is chuckling over Obama calling for voters to make “sure your tires are properly inflated” because “we could save all the oil that they’re talking about getting off drilling if everybody was just inflating their tires.”

RNC spokesman Alex Conant responds, “Obama’s solution to America’s energy crisis is inflating tires?! Maybe he’s been out of the country too long.”

I'll give Obama a smidgen of credit, in that yes, having properly inflated tires can get you a few more miles per gallon.

"Running a tire 20 percent underinflated - only 5 to 7 pounds per square inch (psi) - can increase fuel consumption by 10 percent. That can easily cost motorists two or three miles per gallon. Not only that, but running underinflated also reduces the tire's tread life," said Bob Toth, Goodyear's general manager, auto tires.

However, this doesn't mean everybody can inflate their tires and get more mpg tomorrow. Survey information from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) shows that about one in every three cars has a significantly under inflated tire.

I'm doing a back-of-the-envelope calculation of how many gallons of gasoline that would save, daily and annually. But one of the problems of trying to contrast that total with the amount of oil produced domestically is that because of bans on exploration, it's tough to get a solid number of how many gallons of gasoline could be produced, daily and annually, by additional drilling.

Back in 2006, I was underwhelmed when Democrat leaders' national security plan included a federal "tire fuel efficiency program."

UPDATE: This article from U.S. News and World Report says the average worker commutes 33 miles between work and home each day and that the average car gets about 24 miles per gallon. Thus, the average worker is using 1.375 gallons per day.

Let’s be generous and say a properly inflated tire gives a full extra three miles per gallon. So a commuter who had previously insufficiently inflated tires starts using 1.22 gallons per day. They’re saving .153 gallons per day.

This 2003 press release puts the number of commuters in America at a little over 129 million. So we have one third of those commuters – 43 million – saving .153 gallons per day, or almost 6.58 million gallons.

(If the benefit of properly inflated tires is at the lower end of the estimate, only an extra two miles per gallon, it would save 4.94 million gallons.) That is a nice healthy amount, even if getting 100 percent tire inflation compliance in the country is an impossible dream.

But this 2006 report from the federal Minerals Management Service puts the recoverable oil from the Outer Continental Shelf at just under 86 billion barrels of oil; one barrel of crude oil yields approximately 19.6 gallons of finished motor gasoline.

So it would indeed be nice if Americans pumped up their tires sufficiently, and we started seeing some of that 4.9 million to 6.5 million gallons saved per day. But why it has to be an either/or in regards to the 1.6 trillion gallons of gasoline in the OCS (not even getting into ANWR), as Obama insists, is not clear.

UPDATE: The PowerLine guys and Hot Air do their own calculations — and their sources state, "Proper inflation can also improve gas mileage by more than 3%, when maintained regularly."

Hmm. In my math above, I've got it improving gas mileage 8.3 to 12.5 percent...

Cry Havoc
07-30-2008, 11:19 PM
"UPDATE: This article from U.S. News and World Report says the average worker commutes 33 miles between work and home each day and that the average car gets about 24 miles per gallon. Thus, the average worker is using 1.375 gallons per day."

Wow. So cars are getting 24 mpg while they're sitting in gridlock traffic moving about 2 mph for the better part of an hour (or two)? His logic is faultless.

PixelPusher
07-30-2008, 11:51 PM
How dare Obama offer up a solution that anyone can accomplish for themselves! Next he'll be suggesting we get tune ups and keep our speed down on the highway. That unbelievable bastard!

:whine

PixelPusher
07-31-2008, 01:56 AM
Republican Health Care Solution: wear sunscreen (well, says McCain)

:lmao Damn, this mofo is smart!
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:toast

Trainwreck2100
07-31-2008, 01:59 AM
both are excellent ideas btw. that's bi-partisan ship for you

George Gervin's Afro
07-31-2008, 08:57 AM
You mean mainting your car helps with gas mileage? How dare Obama bring that up!

Oh the Horrah!!

:rolleyes

peewee's lovechild
07-31-2008, 09:15 AM
The funny part about all of this is that there are commercials by Gov. Perry and Pres. Bush reminding everyone to inflate their tires.

I hear them on the radio all the time.

But, apparently, it's only stupid if Obama says it.

Idiocy, pure idiocy.

2centsworth
07-31-2008, 09:17 AM
it's all that Obama experience, can't you just hear it, "inflate your tires".

johnsmith
07-31-2008, 09:47 AM
Jimmy Carter wearing a sweater and telling Americans to bundle up to save money on heat PART II.

PixelPusher
07-31-2008, 10:13 AM
it's all that Obama experience, can't you just hear it, "inflate your tires".


Jimmy Carter wearing a sweater and telling Americans to bundle up to save money on heat PART II.

An energy saving tip that doesn't require new taxes or a massive govt. subsidy.

Naturally, the board Republicans hate it.

2centsworth
07-31-2008, 10:14 AM
An energy saving tip that doesn't require new taxes or a massive govt. subsidy.

Naturally, the board Republicans hate it.

no we love it and we're damn proud Obama is reminding us.:lol what's next, brushing your teeth prevents tooth decay.

PixelPusher
07-31-2008, 10:14 AM
Because I oppose John McCain, I will NOT wear sunscreen!

PixelPusher
07-31-2008, 10:18 AM
The funny part about all of this is that there are commercials by Gov. Perry and Pres. Bush reminding everyone to inflate their tires.

I hear them on the radio all the time.


What? Damn, if I'd have know that, I would have started a thread mocking both of them for doing that.

johnsmith
07-31-2008, 10:27 AM
An energy saving tip that doesn't require new taxes or a massive govt. subsidy.

Naturally, the board Republicans hate it.

You don't know how the country responded to Carter when he did this do you?

2centsworth
07-31-2008, 10:28 AM
What? Damn, if I'd have know that, I would have started a thread mocking both of them for doing that.

so you're saying Obama's campaign consist of Public Service Annoucements?

clambake
07-31-2008, 10:35 AM
:lmao a holiday gas tax wouldn't have changed the 12 billion quarterly profit that exxon just raped us with.

PixelPusher
07-31-2008, 10:40 AM
so you're saying Obama's campaign consist of Public Service Annoucements?
Obama, McCain, Bush, Perry, et al...their campaigns/offices consist of a lot of different things, including occasionally using their public stature to disseminate public service announcements.

How dare they?

HOW DARE THEY?!!!!

2centsworth
07-31-2008, 10:46 AM
Obama, McCain, Bush, Perry, et al...their campaigns/offices consist of a lot of different things, including occasionally using their public stature to disseminate public service announcements.


his campaign is a public service announcement?



How dare they?

HOW DARE THEY?!!!!

you like acting retarted?

PixelPusher
07-31-2008, 10:52 AM
his campaign is a public service announcement?


McCain told Americans to wear sunscreen. Is his campaing a public service announcement?

Retarded, indeed.

Anti.Hero
07-31-2008, 11:47 AM
Once again, this is bullshit.

The people of our great country should not be troubled with taking care of their own vehicles. They already have too many things to worry about in this troubling mean country. It is up to our parents, aka government officials, to ensure our tires never deflate by themselves.

The tire companies are obviously responsible for this. They deflate them on purpose, to increase wear time, in order to get people to buy tires at a greater pace.

I hereby call for the nationalization of our tire companies funded through tax dollars to ensure this problem will never plague citizens of the world ever again.


Together we roll, divided we deflate. All for one, one for all. Yes we can.
God bless.

PixelPusher
07-31-2008, 12:12 PM
Once again, this is bullshit.

The people of our great country should not be troubled with taking care of their own vehicles. They already have too many things to worry about in this troubling mean country. It is up to our parents, aka government officials, to ensure our tires never deflate by themselves.

The tire companies are obviously responsible for this. They deflate them on purpose, to increase wear time, in order to get people to buy tires at a greater pace.

I hereby call for the nationalization of our tire companies funded through tax dollars to ensure this problem will never plague citizens of the world ever again.


Together we roll, divided we deflate. All for one, one for all. Yes we can.
God bless.


Assuming the worst about someone you don't like, and then attributing things to that person that they never actually said is a popular activity around these parts.

xrayzebra
07-31-2008, 02:37 PM
The funny part about all of this is that there are commercials by Gov. Perry and Pres. Bush reminding everyone to inflate their tires.

I hear them on the radio all the time.

But, apparently, it's only stupid if Obama says it.

Idiocy, pure idiocy.

Bush? The only thing I have heard him say is that American's have enough sense to figure things out for themselves without being told.
Obama hasn't figured that out yet. Of course with all Obama's hot air he could fill all the tires in the U.S. with hot air left over. And I am sure he will come up with a government plan to pay for those tune-ups.:lol

peewee's lovechild
07-31-2008, 04:38 PM
Bush? The only thing I have heard him say is that American's have enough sense to figure things out for themselves without being told.
Obama hasn't figured that out yet. Of course with all Obama's hot air he could fill all the tires in the U.S. with hot air left over. And I am sure he will come up with a government plan to pay for those tune-ups.:lol

I've heard it half a billion times on the radio.

What's so different about him doing it?

peewee's lovechild
07-31-2008, 04:58 PM
From the Department of Energy:


You can improve your gas mileage by around 3.3 percent by keeping your tires inflated to the proper pressure. Under-inflated tires can lower gas mileage by 0.4 percent for every 1 psi drop in pressure of all four tires. Properly inflated tires are safer and last longer.

Fuel Economy Benefit: up to 3%
Equivalent Gasoline Savings: up to $0.12/gallon

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/maintain.shtml

peewee's lovechild
07-31-2008, 04:59 PM
^^^^

Hey, Ray . . . are you somehow going to say that the Department of Energy is controlled by Democrats and therefore posted that on thier site?

peewee's lovechild
07-31-2008, 05:13 PM
In 2005, President Bush call of action to "save with Winter Energy-Efficiency Tips gave us this little nugget:


With cold weather around the corner and President Bush's call to conserve, small actions -- like changing a lightbulb or weather-stripping the windows -- can benefit our wallets and our nation's energy resources

http://yosemite.epa.gov/opa/admpress.nsf/6427a6b7538955c585257359003f0230/9c99b3519fbcd1a1852570a000668106!OpenDocument

So, those of you dumping on Obama for the tire pressure thing . . . I wonder what you have to say about Bush asking people to change light bulbs and weather strip windows for Winter energy conservation a couple of years ago.

Hmmmmmmm . . . I'll wait for clever responses.

PixelPusher
07-31-2008, 05:22 PM
So, those of you dumping on Obama for the tire pressure thing . . . I wonder what you have to say about Bush asking people to change light bulbs and weather strip windows for Winter energy conservation a couple of years ago.

Hmmmmmmm . . . I'll wait for clever responses.

I'm sure a search of the Politics board will reveal some lefty thread mocking him for doing so.

Aggie Hoopsfan
07-31-2008, 06:00 PM
How dare Obama offer up a solution that anyone can accomplish for themselves! Next he'll be suggesting we get tune ups and keep our speed down on the highway. That unbelievable bastard!

:whine


Um, it's a nice tip, but you're an idiot if you think it's an energy solution.

Aggie Hoopsfan
07-31-2008, 06:01 PM
In 2005, President Bush call of action to "save with Winter Energy-Efficiency Tips gave us this little nugget:



http://yosemite.epa.gov/opa/admpress.nsf/6427a6b7538955c585257359003f0230/9c99b3519fbcd1a1852570a000668106!OpenDocument

So, those of you dumping on Obama for the tire pressure thing . . . I wonder what you have to say about Bush asking people to change light bulbs and weather strip windows for Winter energy conservation a couple of years ago.

Hmmmmmmm . . . I'll wait for clever responses.

Did Bush advance those as a solution to our energy problems, or just as a 'green tip'?

There's a difference.

peewee's lovechild
07-31-2008, 06:03 PM
Did Bush advance those as a solution to our energy problems, or just as a 'green tip'?

There's a difference.

That was not a "green tip".

That was his solution to the costs of the Winter energy problems.

Using "green tip" and Bush in the same sentence will always = oxymoron.

PixelPusher
07-31-2008, 06:07 PM
Um, it's a nice tip, but you're an idiot if you think it's an energy solution.


Did Bush advance those as a solution to our energy problems, or just as a 'green tip'?

There's a difference.

Yeah, the difference is some RNC stooge characterized Obama's tip as "the Democratic energy solution" and you can't distinguish the difference between your partisan caricature of Obama and what he actually says. There's a lot of that going around.

Anti.Hero
07-31-2008, 06:33 PM
Don't forget, there is usually a sticker on the inside edge of your driver's side door that will tell you the correct psi for both your front and rear tires.

PixelPusher
07-31-2008, 06:37 PM
Don't forget, there is usually a sticker on the inside edge of your driver's side door that will tell you the correct psi for both your front and rear tires.

:tu

And don't forget to choose a suncreen rated to protect against both UV-A and UV-B rays.

George Gervin's Afro
07-31-2008, 07:49 PM
"Border relations between Canada and Mexico have never been better." -George W. Bush, in a press conference with Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chretien. Sept. 24, 2001

boutons_
07-31-2008, 08:22 PM
best ant-terror policy is "just go shopping"

Aggie Hoopsfan
07-31-2008, 08:59 PM
Yeah, the difference is some RNC stooge characterized Obama's tip as "the Democratic energy solution" and you can't distinguish the difference between your partisan caricature of Obama and what he actually says. There's a lot of that going around.

Oh right, my bad. I forgot. When a Democrat does it to McCain, it's just 'calling a spade a spade.'

When a Republican does it to Obama, that person gets called out for it, called a racist, a neocon, etc.

Mr. Peabody
07-31-2008, 09:11 PM
Oh right, my bad. I forgot. When a Democrat does it to McCain, it's just 'calling a spade a spade.'

When a Republican does it to McCain, that person gets called out for it, called a racist, a neocon, etc.

I am assuming you meant "Obama" instead of McCain in the second sentence. The thing that caught my attention though was that you considered the label "neocon" to be offensive. Man, how the times have changed. I thought everyone wanted to be a "neocon" in 2000.

I guess that label has become the GOP equivalent of "liberal."

PixelPusher
07-31-2008, 09:14 PM
Oh right, my bad. I forgot. When a Democrat does it to McCain, it's just 'calling a spade a spade.'

When a Republican does it to McCain, that person gets called out for it, called a racist, a neocon, etc.
If some DNC stooge mocked Bush for his energy tips or McCain for advocating suncreen, you'd have a point.

boutons_
07-31-2008, 09:28 PM
"When a Democrat does it to McCain, it's just 'calling a spade a spade"

RNC hits HUSSEIN with lies and smears, eg, calling a practical tip as the entire DNC energy policy, it's meant to be malicious and taunting, but just makes the RNC look like dumbfucks.

McJerk, otoh, has made, and continues to make, so many gaffes and flops and un/misrememberings, that it's fair for Dems to ask if McSenile is really fit for office.

jochhejaam
07-31-2008, 09:47 PM
Okay, I inflated my one low tire, demand should be down, looking forward to another price drop at the pump. Thanks Barack!





On a more serious note, gas at Sam's Club was $3.51.9 today, never thought I'd think that was a good price.


Why are they hanging on to the .9 cents...

Aggie Hoopsfan
07-31-2008, 10:46 PM
I am assuming you meant "Obama" instead of McCain in the second sentence. The thing that caught my attention though was that you considered the label "neocon" to be offensive. Man, how the times have changed. I thought everyone wanted to be a "neocon" in 2000.

I guess that label has become the GOP equivalent of "liberal."

I've always considered the neocons the GOP equivalent of extreme leftists/socialists/marxists. *shrugs*

I still call myself a Republican because somewhere in the depths of the party is the ideology I identify with. I'm probably more a libertarian than anything these days. I look forward to the day we have a viable third party or one of the two major parties splits (or even both) and we are given some real choices.

Wild Cobra
07-31-2008, 11:40 PM
It's bad enough that Obama states the obvious (to anyone with an IQ above 90) about tire pressures and tune ups, but he goes on to claim that if we all did it, we wouldn't have a need for foregn oil, or something like that. I forget the exact quote, and it wasn't in the post #1 quote.

He must have been addressing the Obamunists again. Only such followers have a low enough IQ or memory retention that they don't know about proper tire inflation.