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Pistons < Spurs
08-05-2008, 11:19 AM
Coach K leads Team USA


After the debacle that was the 2004 Athens Olympics, with the American men lucky to come away from Greece with the bronze medal, USA Basketball underwent an overhaul, totally changing the methods used for putting together the team.

At a 2005 summit in Chicago, hundreds of people involved in basketball, from former Olympic players and coaches to current NBA officials, were consulted and gave their opinions on what was needed. At the conclusion of the process, all that remained was choosing a coach. The favorite for the job was Gregg Popovich of the San Antonio Spurs, the Air Force Academy graduate and well-respected coach whose team was in the midst of a run that would net three NBA championships in five years.

But instead of Popovich, who had firsthand experience of Team USA's hoops nightmare in 2004 while serving as an assistant to Larry Brown, USA Basketball managing director Jerry Colangelo opted for legendary Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski.

The future of Dr. Naismith's game, the one we took to the world and was now being stuffed back down our throats, was being placed in the hands of someone who wasn't an NBA coach. A man who, the first time he walked into the room to meet with Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony, et al., was probably facing more tattoos than he had seen in his entire 28-year run at Duke.

"I smile just thinking about it. I don't know if he was the obvious choice, but he was the right choice," said Carlos Boozer, the Utah Jazz star who played at Duke for Coach K. "I'll tell you what, he's still passionate, still greatly dedicated to the profession. He might be as excited now as I've ever seen him as a coach. He's so excited — for us, for him, for the USA."

As it concludes its pre-Olympic tuneup with an exhibition game this morning (Denver time) vs. Australia, Team USA finds itself playing with a joie de vivre that, if not actually rah-rah, sis-boom-bah, is nonetheless refreshing after watching the misery that transpired — both on and off the court — in Greece. At this point, Krzy-zewski likens his team, the core of which has played together part time for the last two years, to an NBA squad entering the final third of a season. There seems to be trust. There's definitely more communication than was displayed in Athens, with the players not only openly pulling for each other, but also being unafraid to call out a teammate when he doesn't perform as expected.

Part of that may be the difference between having consummate professionals such as Bryant, Jason Kidd and Tayshaun Prince on the team rather than, well, Stephon Marbury, but it still shouldn't belittle the work being done by Krzyzewski, who, while lacking NBA credentials, still knows something about the game.

"He was the guy"

At Duke, Krzyzewski has won almost 78 percent of his games, guided the Blue Devils to 10 Final Fours and won three NCAA championships — all of which would have made him a natural choice to lead Team USA if we were talking about the pre-Dream Team days before the Olympics became the province of the professionals.

Even Krzyzewski, an assistant to Chuck Daly on the 1992 Olympic team that spawned a worldwide basketball revolution, admitted he never thought he would be back on the bench for the Americans.

"I really felt that '92 was going to be my Olympic experience; (coaching the team) was never in my mind at all, because they're all NBA players now," he said. "I was fine with that. As long as the U.S. won, I was fine with that. So I was surprised when Jerry asked me. It just wasn't on my radar."

At the Chicago summit, Colangelo, the former owner of the Phoenix Suns and Major League Baseball's Arizona Diamondbacks, said there was a great deal of support for Krzyzewski, but admits it still took him a bit of time to come around.

"I had to come to the realization that he was the guy," Colangelo said. "Popovich would have been a terrific choice, but I eventually came to the conclusion that Mike was the guy I wanted to do this job.

"You couldn't go wrong either way, but I'm glad I made the decision I did. Everything that's happened over the last three years endorses that."

Even with as storied a career as Brown has had, winning championships both collegiately and professionally, it was clear from his ongoing battles with James and Anthony, then relative youngsters, as well as veterans such as Marbury and Allen Iverson, that there was a disconnect between him and players four years ago at the Athens Games.

According to Boozer, that's no longer the case.

"We've all accomplished stuff. Tayshaun has a ring, Dwyane Wade has a ring, Kobe has three of them. LeBron's gotten to the (NBA) Finals. You've got to bring in a coach that everybody respects," said Boozer, a member of the 2004 Olympic team.

"Everybody respects him," Boozer said of Coach K. "He just brings a different mentality where, whether you're No. 1 or No. 12 on the team — and we're all all-stars on our teams — we're all equals."

Krzyzewski says he feels that not going against the members of Team USA during the winter has worked in his favor during the Olympic cycle.

"It's helped me in gaining their trust," he said. "I'm not going to ever compete against them. We can be who we're going to be, and that doesn't have to change during the NBA season.

"I'm never going to try to defend you and you're never going to try to beat me. It's like I'm a completely different entity for them."

Team play in vogue

Even without the NBA background, in some ways, today seems very much Krzyzew-ski's time. During Duke's heyday, when the Blue Devils won NCAA championships in 1991 and 1992 (they won again in 2001), the coach and his players often came under fire, accused of presenting their program as "holier than thou" — charges Krzyzewski now admits "were almost as big an opponent as anybody we played against, really."

Now, however, in a sports landscape littered with fallen carcasses such as Michael Vick and Marion Jones, and the pedestals of Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire and Lance Armstrong tilting precariously, it seems like we could use a few more straight arrows.

That certainly appears to be the trend in basketball, where team play is now all the rage, from sea (the 2008 NBA champion Boston Celtics) to shining sea, with Argentina coming to China as the defending Olympic champion.

Now, Krzyzewski says, Team USA is prepared to embrace the movement.

"One of the interesting things about this Olympic team is that all these guys are good guys," he said. "It's a great time for the NBA and basketball in the U.S. To see the star player be a team player, to be hustling, to be respectful, listening to coaching — all the things that these guys are doing.

"Hopefully we can win the gold medal while we're doing all that stuff."


http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_10097886

Mr.Bottomtooth
08-05-2008, 11:19 AM
Ha!

Pistons < Spurs
08-05-2008, 11:20 AM
:bang:bang:bang

urunobili
08-05-2008, 11:27 AM
fuck Colangelo big time...

FromWayDowntown
08-05-2008, 11:29 AM
I think Popovich would have been a fabulous choice and I think he would have gotten the job had it been just about anyone other than Colangelo making that choice.

urunobili
08-05-2008, 11:31 AM
if Team USA doesn;t win the gold... Colangelo should look for another job... doesn;t matter team chemistry etc etc... if you don;t win the damn thing GTFO :nope

1Parker1
08-05-2008, 11:51 AM
What was Colango's problem against Pop? That the Spurs owned his Suns back in the day and still do?

Walton Buys Off Me
08-05-2008, 12:10 PM
Coach K leads Team USA



"You couldn't go wrong either way, but I'm glad I made the decision I did. Everything that's happened over the last three years endorses that."


http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_10097886


Ummm...like what- Pop using the Phoenix Suns franchise as a portable toilet on his way to 2 NBA titles and Coach K repeatedly underachieving during March Madness?

Stick to real estate Colangelo. You're the same idiot that thought Mike D'Antoni's seven man rotation playing schoolgirl defense would net you a title.

MoSpur
08-05-2008, 01:16 PM
Pop probably turned the job offer down.

ducks
08-05-2008, 01:17 PM
Pop probably turned the job offer down.

:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes:ihit:ihit

CubanMustGo
08-05-2008, 01:31 PM
Ummm...like what- Pop using the Phoenix Suns franchise as a portable toilet on his way to 2 NBA titles and Coach K repeatedly underachieving during March Madness?

Stick to real estate Colangelo. You're the same idiot that thought Mike D'Antoni's seven man rotation playing schoolgirl defense would net you a title.

+1

+1

diego
08-05-2008, 01:52 PM
not to mention coach K losing in 06. so far he's been just as much of a failure as brown and karl before him.

and that last bit about their clean rep being their biggest opponent at duke? please. that's one of the most ridiculous statements i've ever heard from a coach, and i'm a huge soccer fan (where coaches often get ridiculous).

Cherry
08-05-2008, 05:25 PM
Pop send him a memo 2 years ago saying something like "STOP TALKING ABOUT ME!"

your_pimp
08-05-2008, 05:34 PM
Hell No! With Popazit as Team USA head coach they will definately not win the Gold.

Popazit was already an assiatant for several USA teams that have failed miserably to win the Gold...

Aggie Hoopsfan
08-05-2008, 05:44 PM
Ummm...like what- Pop using the Phoenix Suns franchise as a portable toilet on his way to 2 NBA titles and Coach K repeatedly underachieving during March Madness?

Stick to real estate Colangelo. You're the same idiot that thought Mike D'Antoni's seven man rotation playing schoolgirl defense would net you a title.



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Aggie Hoopsfan
08-05-2008, 05:47 PM
Hell No! With Popazit as Team USA head coach they will definately not win the Gold.

Popazit was already an assiatant for several USA teams that have failed miserably to win the Gold...

But he's been a head coach for a team that has won four world titles.

What has Coach K done lately? The last time he won an NCAA title David Robinson was still playing. And he doesn't have any white boys on Team USA to coach, either...

Brutalis
08-05-2008, 05:57 PM
Know how many bottles of wine and therapy sessions with Pop it took for him to stop crying about 2004? And then you assholes go and bring it up again.

Tek_XX
08-05-2008, 06:01 PM
I can't decide of Colangelo really thinks chechefski is the better choice here or he's just bitter at the Spurs.

Biggems
08-05-2008, 07:46 PM
Pop could have used the gig as a recruiting tool for the 2010 FA Bonanza...oh well......

ShoogarBear
08-05-2008, 08:55 PM
Fuck Jerry Colangelo, lifetime loser.

picnroll
08-05-2008, 09:00 PM
Here's to hoping that coach Cashefski, Colangelo and team USA get smoked in the Olympics. :toast

timvp
08-05-2008, 09:02 PM
Pop send him a memo 2 years ago saying something like "STOP TALKING ABOUT ME!":lol Yeah, that's the first thing I thought of after seeing the title of this thread. Pop has told JC to STFU for years now. He doesn't want his name brought up ... even if it's to give him halfway props like in the article above.

This is exactly why it's hard to root for this US team. It was put together by the Suns, its biggest star is Kobe and the coach happens to be one of the most overrated coaches of this generation. On top of that, they not only passed up Pop, they won't STFU up about him like Pop has asked multiple times. And then the Bowen cutting fiasco also adds to the lameness of the US Team.

When the US actually tries, the team could be put together by Isaiah Thomas and coached by Mike D'Antoni and they'd still win the gold. Coach K and the Suns getting credit makes it hard to root for this team.

GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI
08-05-2008, 09:03 PM
Coach K is probably a better coach for Fiba, College Ball features alot of Zone defense, and I would think that Coach K is more geared to teach a solid zone D than Pop.

Plus guys like Lebron and Melo probably couldn't handle a coach like Pop.

all_heart
08-05-2008, 09:15 PM
Are you kidding? Pop is probably happy he's not coaching Team USA. He hates egos and loves his time off just as much as we do. We don't need a burnt out Pop on the bench getting ejected out of games just to get some peace and quiet. Besides we don't all these All-Stars knowing what Pop likes to run offensively :lol

wijayas
08-05-2008, 10:00 PM
Pop probably turned the job offer down.

No Way. Pop is an Air Force graduate and loves his country too much to turn this down.

wijayas
08-05-2008, 10:01 PM
I can't decide of Colangelo really thinks chechefski is the better choice here or he's just bitter at the Spurs.

:lol :lol :lol It is probably the latter one.

ducks
08-05-2008, 11:26 PM
Coach K is probably a better coach for Fiba, College Ball features alot of Zone defense, and I would think that Coach K is more geared to teach a solid zone D than Pop.

Plus guys like Lebron and Melo probably couldn't handle a coach like Pop.

what are the hell you are talking about


players love pop
where the hell have you been

DespЏrado
08-06-2008, 02:16 AM
It's a damn shame Pop got shafted out of his turn at the reigns, it seriously blows for someone who has served his country to not get the nod over the image cult that surrounds coach K.

It's enough to make me root for another miracle out of ginobili and co.

Because in all honesty the team that Colangelo and K was built is no less lacking in egos and names than the crappy 04 team. We gave a ton of lip service to the idea of building a real team and just went out and fielded another all star team.

This 08 team is definitely in better position to win the gold than the 04 team because it has more inside out balance, but I won't lose any sleep if they come up short of the gold yet again.

spurscenter
08-06-2008, 03:50 AM
What was Colango's problem against Pop? That the Spurs owned his Suns back in the day and still do?

thats it

pop not coaching Team USA is a joke.

ShoogarBear
08-06-2008, 05:08 AM
It's a damn shame Pop got shafted out of his turn at the reigns, it seriously blows for someone who has served his country to not get the nod over the image cult that surrounds coach K.


Uhhhhhhh

http://bigbluehistory.net/bb/Graphics/GameAction/19681221Army.jpg

Mike Krzyzewski, West Point Class of 1969.
U.S. Army 1969-1974.

I think he's overrated, too, but to say Pop should get it over him because of "service to his country" is a massive fail.

ShoogarBear
08-06-2008, 05:11 AM
When the US actually tries, the team could be put together by Isaiah Thomas and coached by Mike D'Antoni and they'd still win the gold. Coach K and the Suns getting credit makes it hard to root for this team.

Bingo.

You know what really sucks? K's first time out as coach the result was just as big a disaster as 2004.

The guys going to reap glory because he's the first to ever get the opportunity to coach the team THREE TIMES, under a system specifically designed to improve player familiarity.

Das Texan
08-06-2008, 06:44 PM
Uhhhhhhh

http://bigbluehistory.net/bb/Graphics/GameAction/19681221Army.jpg

Mike Krzyzewski, West Point Class of 1969.
U.S. Army 1969-1974.

I think he's overrated, too, but to say Pop should get it over him because of "service to his country" is a massive fail.



oh come on!


everyone knows air force > army


:lol

FromWayDowntown
08-06-2008, 06:51 PM
I'd still like to see Pop considered for the 2012 Olympic cycle, but I think that happens only if Colangelo is no longer involved in USA Basketball.

T Park
08-06-2008, 07:34 PM
I won't have any problem rooting for USA.

Slippy
08-07-2008, 04:38 AM
When the US actually tries, the team could be put together by Isaiah Thomas and coached by Mike D'Antoni and they'd still win the gold. Coach K and the Suns getting credit makes it hard to root for this team.


Bingo.



Yah all they have to do is try. When it comes to hitting open jumpers, sharing the ball and putting their ego's aside team USA just needs effort.

:lol

Rummpd
08-07-2008, 10:42 AM
How does the debacle vs. Greece make K the right choice? When Team USA loses the gold medal against a savy tough team Colangelo - who never won a single NBA title will be shown for the fraud that he is.

timvp
08-07-2008, 10:53 AM
Yah all they have to do is try. When it comes to hitting open jumpers, sharing the ball and putting their ego's aside team USA just needs effort.

:lol

The "try" part begins with putting together a good team. Not a team of players who get a bonus from their sneaker companies if they play for Team USA.

Mark in Austin
08-07-2008, 03:31 PM
All this article shows is that Colangelo is still a douchebag.